Chrysler is being sued for inflating sales figures? Seems the booked bogus sales at the end of each month and then deleted them at the begining of the next.
To what end?
What? A company inflating it's sales figures? Oh the humanity, when will the madness stop?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I decided to check. Juke is 162" long (I thought it was a little bigger). The current X1 is 175". so it is a foot longer. The Juke is barely the size of a Golf.
I got this email today....do you think it is fake (I bolded one sentence)? CIBC is Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce and we don't have an account with them.
Our records indicate that your Online banking account has been locked. Follow the instruction below to unlock your CIBC Online Banking account
Please Download on the Attach File
*If you do not Unlock your account within 48hours, it will lead to lost of your CIBC account.
Thank you for banking with us.
Sincerely, CIBC Online® Banking Department
*If you do not Unlock your account within 48hours, it will lead to lost of your CIBC account. Oh that notice is totally legitimate. There's a very nice Nigerian Prince who sends those out to help people out of the goodness of his heart.
I hate scammers......especially illiterate scammers!
I'm sure they've blocked your non-existent account because you ignored that phone call from the Canada Revenue Agency threatening you with jail if you didn't send a $2,000 money order to that post office box in Wawa.
Rhetorical question, right?
We actually did get a call like that two days ago....it was on the answering machine. The guys accent was so thick it was barely understandable. I hear they ask you to pay with itunes gift cards.....now if that isn't a dead giveaway I don't know what is....but, people do it.
Chrysler is being sued for inflating sales figures? Seems the booked bogus sales at the end of each month and then deleted them at the begining of the next.
To what end?
Who is suing them?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
So, seems my vacation triggered something in my fragile psyche. I'm test driving and looking at anything I may be interested in. Finally got around to test driving a Challenger Scat Pack-6-sp. MERCY! That's a lot of car that moves that fast, and with more handling than you'd think it's capable of. More room than a Camaro or Mustang, too.
Gotta say, American muscle cars have moved into the German/Japanese sports car territory, where they handle as well as they accelerate. Makes great noises, too.
Not a bad deal on the one I was looking at. High $30s with no crazy option list.
Want to build a Continental? $51,000 with minimal options when I did it.
Very substantial looking Continental. The price, at $1,000 a ton, seems reasonable considering the amount of scrap metal in this behemoth. Nonetheless, it is a nice looking sedan, especially in black.
So, seems my vacation triggered something in my fragile psyche. I'm test driving and looking at anything I may be interested in. Finally got around to test driving a Challenger Scat Pack-6-sp. MERCY! That's a lot of car that moves that fast, and with more handling than you'd think it's capable of. More room than a Camaro or Mustang, too.
Gotta say, American muscle cars have moved into the German/Japanese sports car territory, where they handle as well as they accelerate. Makes great noises, too.
Not a bad deal on the one I was looking at. High $30s with no crazy option list.
I really liked the Scat Pack Challengers- and SRT engineers test them by running them for over 30 minutes flat out on a road course with ambient temps over 90F. In the end it was just too big a car for my tastes. And a 4200 pound car is bound to chew through tires at an HPDE. That said, I'd probably buy an SRT or Boss 302 if I didn't have the ti in the garage...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I've been holding off on saying anything here since we were still in the red zone, but my wife and I found out at the end of May that we are expecting our first in February! My wife has given me permission to keep the GTI for as long as we are a single-child household, but of course, I'm preparing for that to go straight out the window once baby arrives - hoping it does not though.
I was in Virginia this past weekend for a wedding and was able to get a Charger R/T from the National Executive Aisle - WOW! That car was really a blast. Absolutely blew my mind. Of course, it got approximately 8 gallons to the mile the way I was driving it, but...still fun and lots of space for 1+ children and their gear.
Might have pulled me off my craving for an S4 as my next ride...
2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
Congrats. Is GTI a 2 or 4 door? If 4, no reason to get rid of it. Especially if you have another car to serve as family trickster.
S4 is pretty big. But maybe a SQ3 or 5 would work better?
GTI is 4 door - I've already taken my niece in her car seat around in it without any hiccups and after I lowered the floor in the rear, had plenty of room for a stroller and baby bag. Plus like you said, we have the Escape for anything else.
I think SQ3 and SQ5 are going to be squarely out of budget. An S4 would have to be CPO.
2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
So, seems my vacation triggered something in my fragile psyche. I'm test driving and looking at anything I may be interested in. Finally got around to test driving a Challenger Scat Pack-6-sp. MERCY! That's a lot of car that moves that fast, and with more handling than you'd think it's capable of. More room than a Camaro or Mustang, too.
Gotta say, American muscle cars have moved into the German/Japanese sports car territory, where they handle as well as they accelerate. Makes great noises, too.
Not a bad deal on the one I was looking at. High $30s with no crazy option list.
It's true. American Muscle is very competent these days. I'm not sure I'd flog one all day long on the Autobahn, but for American-style driving, many of these new muscle cars would give any German product fits in the handling and acceleration department.
Chrysler is being sued for inflating sales figures? Seems the booked bogus sales at the end of each month and then deleted them at the begining of the next.
To what end?
Who is suing them?
FCA is actually being sued by two dealers but they are now being investigated by the Feds.
One interesting part of the article says that Chrysler forced dealers to put new vehicles into their service fleet which forced them to sell these new vehicles as used.
You may remember that I posted a CarFax on a 2016 truck from a local Chrysler dealer's used inventory list which had 11 miles. I wonder if this is how it became a used truck.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
28...my son loves his GTI. I've driven it a couple of times. Lots of fun in that car.
RE....Challenger Scat Pack, Camaro SS, Mustang GT....all are highly capable given the price points. I was not one of those who supported the Auto bailout. But, aside from a wrinkle here and there (i.e. 2014 CTS 2.0), they are really putting out good performance products these days.
I'm waiting for one, or all, of you to justify the $13K price on the '98 Cobra 'vert. I teeter-totter on that car/deal every day.
28...my son loves his GTI. I've driven it a couple of times. Lots of fun in that car.
RE....Challenger Scat Pack, Camaro SS, Mustang GT....all are highly capable given the price points. I was not one of those who supported the Auto bailout. But, aside from a wrinkle here and there (i.e. 2014 CTS 2.0), they are really putting out good performance products these days.
I'm waiting for one, or all, of you to justify the $13K price on the '98 Cobra 'vert. I teeter-totter on that car/deal every day.
Well, with 28k miles, he isn't being unreasonable. Only 1 went through auction with those same miles, and that hit $10,100, so $13k will be about the fair retail purchase price on that one, too. Of course, I'd be more comfortable at $12k.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
28...my son loves his GTI. I've driven it a couple of times. Lots of fun in that car.
RE....Challenger Scat Pack, Camaro SS, Mustang GT....all are highly capable given the price points. I was not one of those who supported the Auto bailout. But, aside from a wrinkle here and there (i.e. 2014 CTS 2.0), they are really putting out good performance products these days.
I'm waiting for one, or all, of you to justify the $13K price on the '98 Cobra 'vert. I teeter-totter on that car/deal every day.
We can't justify that since we are not spending our money. That's all up to you since you will be spending your own cash. If you can afford it and you really want it then go for it, but try for a little less than the $13K.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Thanks guys! I would give him a stack of 100-$100 bills today if he'd take it. That's KBB, excellent condition. I understand he has an emotional attachment, but that's worth nothing to me. I might go $11,000. But, that's all the money.
Opinions on if this would appreciate moving forward? It's going to be a driver (albeit, not a daily driver...maybe 4-5 months out of the year, only in dry weather).
So, seems my vacation triggered something in my fragile psyche. I'm test driving and looking at anything I may be interested in. Finally got around to test driving a Challenger Scat Pack-6-sp. MERCY! That's a lot of car that moves that fast, and with more handling than you'd think it's capable of. More room than a Camaro or Mustang, too.
Gotta say, American muscle cars have moved into the German/Japanese sports car territory, where they handle as well as they accelerate. Makes great noises, too.
Not a bad deal on the one I was looking at. High $30s with no crazy option list.
It's true. American Muscle is very competent these days. I'm not sure I'd flog one all day long on the Autobahn, but for American-style driving, many of these new muscle cars would give any German product fits in the handling and acceleration department.
4,200 pounds and 2WD doesn't seem to do much for me. The GT-R is heavy, but not as heavy, and is AWD making it very fast. I'd rather have a 2,500 pound S2000 if I fit in it.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
28...my son loves his GTI. I've driven it a couple of times. Lots of fun in that car.
RE....Challenger Scat Pack, Camaro SS, Mustang GT....all are highly capable given the price points. I was not one of those who supported the Auto bailout. But, aside from a wrinkle here and there (i.e. 2014 CTS 2.0), they are really putting out good performance products these days.
I'm waiting for one, or all, of you to justify the $13K price on the '98 Cobra 'vert. I teeter-totter on that car/deal every day.
split the difference, 11.5K and be done with it.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
28...my son loves his GTI. I've driven it a couple of times. Lots of fun in that car.
RE....Challenger Scat Pack, Camaro SS, Mustang GT....all are highly capable given the price points. I was not one of those who supported the Auto bailout. But, aside from a wrinkle here and there (i.e. 2014 CTS 2.0), they are really putting out good performance products these days.
I'm waiting for one, or all, of you to justify the $13K price on the '98 Cobra 'vert. I teeter-totter on that car/deal every day.
Let's see, he wants $13k, you offered $10.5k...a $2500 difference. Bump it $1250 and tell him take it or leave it. If he still won't sell buy a Challenger Hellcat (why go half way) and burn rubber in front of his house for a week.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Being all of 5'7", can fit in most anything actually. The Golf is 167.5" according to the brochure and even if the X1 is 175", that's still doable on my side of the garage. I was thinking last night, it's a real shame I didn't pursue that 2011 white BMW 128i that the local dealer had in the showroom. Went in for a test drive and the battery was dead, talk about being blue in the face. The sales guy was having a fit because it was dead and he had a customer wanting to give it a go. I never went back and I do regret that, a lot. Was white over gray as I recall, a real nice combo and felt the size was near perfect. The doors weren't too heavy, something that could be a problem as one ages. But looking back, it was a big mistake not going back. Never figured out why they just didn't throw another battery into it and get me in a test drive.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Being all of 5'7", can fit in most anything actually. The Golf is 167.5" according to the brochure and even if the X1 is 175", that's still doable on my side of the garage. I was thinking last night, it's a real shame I didn't pursue that 2011 white BMW 128i that the local dealer had in the showroom. Went in for a test drive and the battery was dead, talk about being blue in the face. The sales guy was having a fit because it was dead and he had a customer wanting to give it a go. I never went back and I do regret that, a lot. Was white over gray as I recall, a real nice combo and felt the size was near perfect. The doors weren't too heavy, something that could be a problem as one ages. But looking back, it was a big mistake not going back. Never figured out why they just didn't throw another battery into it and get me in a test drive.
The Sandman
That would be actual work, something I don't think most car salesman are accustomed to having to do.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
If you don't know why you can't just throw another battery in a BMW, it's probably not the car for you. Search on 128i battery replacement
We have battery indicators in all of our showroom cars as well as most of the remainder of our inventory. I usually end up putting several of the showroom cars on a charger every week. The ones sitting outside get a 15 minute drive instead(it's a tough job, but somebody has to do it).
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I've been holding off on saying anything here since we were still in the red zone, but my wife and I found out at the end of May that we are expecting our first in February! My wife has given me permission to keep the GTI for as long as we are a single-child household, but of course, I'm preparing for that to go straight out the window once baby arrives - hoping it does not though.
I was in Virginia this past weekend for a wedding and was able to get a Charger R/T from the National Executive Aisle - WOW! That car was really a blast. Absolutely blew my mind. Of course, it got approximately 8 gallons to the mile the way I was driving it, but...still fun and lots of space for 1+ children and their gear.
Might have pulled me off my craving for an S4 as my next ride...
Congrats. The easy part is done, now start saving for the big expenses ahead.
Quick question: E400 has 25k miles on it. I have had to fill it up with air once a week for the last 3 weeks....right front tire. I take it in tomorrow at 8 a.m. If they just plug it, no problem (good if they can do that, can't do it with BMW run flats - hate that) If they want to sell me a new tire that is OK....will I have to buy in pairs or in fours? Should I put new tires on back or front?
Quick question: E400 has 25k miles on it. I have had to fill it up with air once a week for the last 3 weeks....right front tire. I take it in tomorrow at 8 a.m. If they just plug it, no problem (good if they can do that, can't do it with BMW run flats - hate that) If they want to sell me a new tire that is OK....will I have to buy in pairs or in fours? Should I put new tires on back or front?
Any thoughts. opinions, or wisecracks?
How much are the tires worn? If the car is AWD it can be an issue. I'm lucky; my tire shop fixes run-flats with no hassle- but I'm also fortunate in that only one of my cars has them...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Ex, no offense, don't think not knowing the location of where a battery goes in any vehicle has anything to do with owning one. That's what the dealer and tire stores are for. All I care about does the vehicle start when I need it to and if not, the quickest way to get it fixed properly. At this stage in my life, I can well afford to let someone else take care of these kind of things as I have other things to focus on. That's why, living in hot South Florida, I usually have any battery changed by the two year mark, especially o e m equipment ones. It's cheap insurance against getting stuck with a dead battery. Two weeks ago, the wife's A3 wouldn't start. She called Audi roadside, they came and jumped the vehicle and off to the Audi store she went. Turns out it was a bad cell and they replaced the battery for free under warranty as the car is less than 2 years old. Sure, she was a bit late for work and being the nice husband I am, I met her at the dealer just to make sure she was fine. She had spent the night at our daughters house in west Ft. Lauderdale as she had to be at the office early the next morning and by staying there, she saves 2/3 of her normal drive time. She was still late and I even got to the Ft. Lauderdale Audi store before she did. But like I said earlier, I don't have to know where the battery is in any car we own.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Quick question: E400 has 25k miles on it. I have had to fill it up with air once a week for the last 3 weeks....right front tire. I take it in tomorrow at 8 a.m. If they just plug it, no problem (good if they can do that, can't do it with BMW run flats - hate that) If they want to sell me a new tire that is OK....will I have to buy in pairs or in fours? Should I put new tires on back or front?
Any thoughts. opinions, or wisecracks?
Don't jump the gun. It could be a bad seal at the rim or a bad valve stem or even a bad TPM. Like some one said, if you have to get another tire, since it has 25K miles on it that would mean buying 2 tires. If that happens, old convention says the best tread should be on the rear but with AWD, I'm not sure what they say today. Let us know what they tell you about this.
If it is a leak due to a nail, screw, etc. if you have a road hazard warranty, and the tire cannot be repaired, that will cover tire replacement on a pro-rated basis but only for the bad tire. You will still be on the hook for the second tire. Dealers don't usually have the best prices for tires but see what you can do with them. As they say in the car biz, "if you don't ask, you don't get".
Not a pleasant thing to face with the cost of tires today, but what the heck...you've got it and you know you can't take it with you.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Quick question: E400 has 25k miles on it. I have had to fill it up with air once a week for the last 3 weeks....right front tire. I take it in tomorrow at 8 a.m. If they just plug it, no problem (good if they can do that, can't do it with BMW run flats - hate that) If they want to sell me a new tire that is OK....will I have to buy in pairs or in fours? Should I put new tires on back or front?
Any thoughts. opinions, or wisecracks?
How much are the tires worn? If the car is AWD it can be an issue. I'm lucky; my tire shop fixes run-flats with no hassle- but I'm also fortunate in that only one of my cars has them...
It is AWD, I would say the tires are about 50 to 60% worn. I thought RFTs could not be repaired.
Quick question: E400 has 25k miles on it. I have had to fill it up with air once a week for the last 3 weeks....right front tire. I take it in tomorrow at 8 a.m. If they just plug it, no problem (good if they can do that, can't do it with BMW run flats - hate that) If they want to sell me a new tire that is OK....will I have to buy in pairs or in fours? Should I put new tires on back or front?
Any thoughts. opinions, or wisecracks?
Don't jump the gun. It could be a bad seal at the rim or a bad valve stem or even a bad TPM. Like some one said, if you have to get another tire, since it has 25K miles on it that would mean buying 2 tires. If that happens, old convention says the best tread should be on the rear but with AWD, I'm not sure what they say today. Let us know what they tell you about this.
If it is a leak due to a nail, screw, etc. if you have a road hazard warranty, and the tire cannot be repaired, that will cover tire replacement on a pro-rated basis but only for the bad tire. You will still be on the hook for the second tire. Dealers don't usually have the best prices for tires but see what you can do with them. As they say in the car biz, "if you don't ask, you don't get".
Not a pleasant thing to face with the cost of tires today, but what the heck...you've got it and you know you can't take it with you.
jmonroe
Great answer.....that is pretty complete information. So far this dealer has been very honest and professional, so if it is a rim or patch, my guess is they will tell me. I'll let you know what happens.
We have battery indicators in all of our showroom cars as well as most of the remainder of our inventory.
Well, that meets the need for the new inventory, but changing the battery in recent BMWs is much like taking out a mortgage. None of this going to Auto Zone to buy one and throw it in on a Sunday afternoon. Yet another reason why I've fallen out of love with BMW.
I just watched a show that I taped with the FIOS DVR. It was on the Science Channel. The show was, How It's Made: Dream Cars. The segment I watched was about the BMW M6. The show was copyrighted in 2016 but that does not mean that the M6 was a 2016. If I knew more about BMW, I could tell you for sure. In any case it was a very interesting show. I searched to see when it will be shown again, so I could pass that info onto you guys, but nothing was listed for the rest of July.
The M6 is built with a lot of aluminum, even the suspension components and you know it ain't the beer can grade stuff. The roof is Carbon Fiber and is specifically used to reduce weight and lower the cars center of gravity without sacrificing strength. They showed an M6 that had an optional paint job. It is a matt finish vs. the traditional shiny paint job. BMW calls the matt finish Frozen. No mention was made about the price of anything but the matt finish paint job can't be cheap. I'm sure @roadburner can give us more info about the M6 in general.
The M6 has a 4.4L high rev twin turbo charged V8 that develops 560 HP. That provides a 0-60 time in 4 seconds.
FWIW, my Genny has a 5.0L V8 non-turbo that's rated at 420 HP. I don't know what the 0-60 time is but it's got to be in the high 6's. With all things being equal, if Hyundai didn't screw up putting a twin turbo on the 5.0L V8, that would yield 636 HP. I don't think they otta do that because that's more than I can handle...420 HP seems to be my limit.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
the new Audi building by me (actually, both local Audi dealers just built new palaces. Must be doing OK!) has all the showroom cars hooked up to a power supply. Nice for moving seats, etc. but annoying because the door open chimes go off! Or maybe it was the lights left on. Something annoying.
the other newer one, which is even bigger I think, had every car on the floor in white. Stylish I guess, but kind of odd looking.
the new Audi building by me (actually, both local Audi dealers just built new palaces. Must be doing OK!) has all the showroom cars hooked up to a power supply. Nice for moving seats, etc. but annoying because the door open chimes go off! Or maybe it was the lights left on. Something annoying.
the other newer one, which is even bigger I think, had every car on the floor in white. Stylish I guess, but kind of odd looking.
My Mercedes dealer often has all white cars - about 20 of them all in front in the shallow pool. This picture shows black and white cars alternating, which they sometimes do.
I just watched a show that I taped with the FIOS DVR. It was on the Science Channel. The show was, How It's Made: Dream Cars. The segment I watched was about the BMW M6. The show was copyrighted in 2016 but that does not mean that the M6 was a 2016. If I knew more about BMW, I could tell you for sure. In any case it was a very interesting show. I searched to see when it will be shown again, so I could pass that info onto you guys, but nothing was listed for the rest of July.
The M6 is built with a lot of aluminum, even the suspension components and you know it ain't the beer can grade stuff. The roof is Carbon Fiber and is specifically used to reduce weight and lower the cars center of gravity without sacrificing strength. They showed an M6 that had an optional paint job. It is a matt finish vs. the traditional shiny paint job. BMW calls the matt finish Frozen. No mention was made about the price of anything but the matt finish paint job can't be cheap. I'm sure @roadburner can give us more info about the M6 in general.
The M6 has a 4.4L high rev twin turbo charged V8 that develops 560 HP. That provides a 0-60 time in 4 seconds.
FWIW, my Genny has a 5.0L V8 non-turbo that's rated at 420 HP. I don't know what the 0-60 time is but it's got to be in the high 6's. With all things being equal, if Hyundai didn't screw up putting a twin turbo on the 5.0L V8, that would yield 636 HP. I don't think they otta do that because that's more than I can handle...420 HP seems to be my limit.
jmonroe
J...I love that show. I'll have to look up the one on the M6.
I know I'm stuck on muscle cars here recently, but looking at just one parameter, 0-60, the Mustang GT, Camaro SS, Challenger RT Hemi...all of them are right in that same 0-60 range. Now, they don't have the level of materials, nor the technology. But, they cost less than 1/2 of what an M6 costs.
Heck, during my shopping, on dealer had 5 Corvettes sitting on the showroom floor. All of them stickered in the low $60s. Those will scorch the pavement even more than an M6.
That said, I wouldn't kick an M6 out of bed for leaking 5w30.
Being all of 5'7", can fit in most anything actually. The Golf is 167.5" according to the brochure and even if the X1 is 175", that's still doable on my side of the garage. I was thinking last night, it's a real shame I didn't pursue that 2011 white BMW 128i that the local dealer had in the showroom. Went in for a test drive and the battery was dead, talk about being blue in the face. The sales guy was having a fit because it was dead and he had a customer wanting to give it a go. I never went back and I do regret that, a lot. Was white over gray as I recall, a real nice combo and felt the size was near perfect. The doors weren't too heavy, something that could be a problem as one ages. But looking back, it was a big mistake not going back. Never figured out why they just didn't throw another battery into it and get me in a test drive.
The Sandman
Sandy, have you ever driven a Miata? Sounds perfect for you.
I just watched a show that I taped with the FIOS DVR. It was on the Science Channel. The show was, How It's Made: Dream Cars. The segment I watched was about the BMW M6. The show was copyrighted in 2016 but that does not mean that the M6 was a 2016. If I knew more about BMW, I could tell you for sure. In any case it was a very interesting show. I searched to see when it will be shown again, so I could pass that info onto you guys, but nothing was listed for the rest of July.
The M6 is built with a lot of aluminum, even the suspension components and you know it ain't the beer can grade stuff. The roof is Carbon Fiber and is specifically used to reduce weight and lower the cars center of gravity without sacrificing strength. They showed an M6 that had an optional paint job. It is a matt finish vs. the traditional shiny paint job. BMW calls the matt finish Frozen. No mention was made about the price of anything but the matt finish paint job can't be cheap. I'm sure @roadburner can give us more info about the M6 in general.
The M6 has a 4.4L high rev twin turbo charged V8 that develops 560 HP. That provides a 0-60 time in 4 seconds.
FWIW, my Genny has a 5.0L V8 non-turbo that's rated at 420 HP. I don't know what the 0-60 time is but it's got to be in the high 6's. With all things being equal, if Hyundai didn't screw up putting a twin turbo on the 5.0L V8, that would yield 636 HP. I don't think they otta do that because that's more than I can handle...420 HP seems to be my limit.
jmonroe
J...I love that show. I'll have to look up the one on the M6.
I know I'm stuck on muscle cars here recently, but looking at just one parameter, 0-60, the Mustang GT, Camaro SS, Challenger RT Hemi...all of them are right in that same 0-60 range. Now, they don't have the level of materials, nor the technology. But, they cost less than 1/2 of what an M6 costs.
Heck, during my shopping, on dealer had 5 Corvettes sitting on the showroom floor. All of them stickered in the low $60s. Those will scorch the pavement even more than an M6.
That said, I wouldn't kick an M6 out of bed for leaking 5w30.
Son #1 has always said if you want a sports car, Corvette is the biggest bargain on the road. After he's done with schooling for his 3 sons, (the oldest is 14 with 2 more 2 years apart) it wouldn't surprise me to see a Vette in his garage. Heck, the way he talks sometimes, I don't think it will be that long.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
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2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
BTW, 3.0 TT with AWD, tech pack, climate pack, and 30-way seats (!) comes to $66,000 on the nose.
Edit: Just checked. It is definitely S-class territory.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Gotta say, American muscle cars have moved into the German/Japanese sports car territory, where they handle as well as they accelerate. Makes great noises, too.
Not a bad deal on the one I was looking at. High $30s with no crazy option list.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I've been holding off on saying anything here since we were still in the red zone, but my wife and I found out at the end of May that we are expecting our first in February! My wife has given me permission to keep the GTI for as long as we are a single-child household, but of course, I'm preparing for that to go straight out the window once baby arrives - hoping it does not though.
I was in Virginia this past weekend for a wedding and was able to get a Charger R/T from the National Executive Aisle - WOW! That car was really a blast. Absolutely blew my mind. Of course, it got approximately 8 gallons to the mile the way I was driving it, but...still fun and lots of space for 1+ children and their gear.
Might have pulled me off my craving for an S4 as my next ride...
S4 is pretty big. But maybe a SQ3 or 5 would work better?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I think SQ3 and SQ5 are going to be squarely out of budget. An S4 would have to be CPO.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/feds-probe-fiat-chrysler-over-inflated-sales-figures-n611861
One interesting part of the article says that Chrysler forced dealers to put new vehicles into their service fleet which forced them to sell these new vehicles as used.
You may remember that I posted a CarFax on a 2016 truck from a local Chrysler dealer's used inventory list which had 11 miles. I wonder if this is how it became a used truck.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
RE....Challenger Scat Pack, Camaro SS, Mustang GT....all are highly capable given the price points. I was not one of those who supported the Auto bailout. But, aside from a wrinkle here and there (i.e. 2014 CTS 2.0), they are really putting out good performance products these days.
I'm waiting for one, or all, of you to justify the $13K price on the '98 Cobra 'vert. I teeter-totter on that car/deal every day.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Opinions on if this would appreciate moving forward? It's going to be a driver (albeit, not a daily driver...maybe 4-5 months out of the year, only in dry weather).
And you might suggest he stick the C-Notes in a sock since he may be using them sooner than he thinks.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Search on 128i battery replacement
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Quick question:
E400 has 25k miles on it.
I have had to fill it up with air once a week for the last 3 weeks....right front tire.
I take it in tomorrow at 8 a.m.
If they just plug it, no problem (good if they can do that, can't do it with BMW run flats - hate that)
If they want to sell me a new tire that is OK....will I have to buy in pairs or in fours?
Should I put new tires on back or front?
Any thoughts. opinions, or wisecracks?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
I'm lucky; my tire shop fixes run-flats with no hassle- but I'm also fortunate in that only one of my cars has them...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
With 25k on it, you won't be able to replace just one tire if you car is AWD.
It might be worth your time to figure out where the leak is.
Two weeks ago, the wife's A3 wouldn't start. She called Audi roadside, they came and jumped the vehicle and off to the Audi store she went. Turns out it was a bad cell and they replaced the battery for free under warranty as the car is less than 2 years old. Sure, she was a bit late for work and being the nice husband I am, I met her at the dealer just to make sure she was fine. She had spent the night at our daughters house in west Ft. Lauderdale as she had to be at the office early the next morning and by staying there, she saves 2/3 of her normal drive time. She was still late and I even got to the Ft. Lauderdale Audi store before she did.
But like I said earlier, I don't have to know where the battery is in any car we own.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
If it is a leak due to a nail, screw, etc. if you have a road hazard warranty, and the tire cannot be repaired, that will cover tire replacement on a pro-rated basis but only for the bad tire. You will still be on the hook for the second tire. Dealers don't usually have the best prices for tires but see what you can do with them. As they say in the car biz, "if you don't ask, you don't get".
Not a pleasant thing to face with the cost of tires today, but what the heck...you've got it and you know you can't take it with you.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I would say the tires are about 50 to 60% worn.
I thought RFTs could not be repaired.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
The M6 is built with a lot of aluminum, even the suspension components and you know it ain't the beer can grade stuff. The roof is Carbon Fiber and is specifically used to reduce weight and lower the cars center of gravity without sacrificing strength. They showed an M6 that had an optional paint job. It is a matt finish vs. the traditional shiny paint job. BMW calls the matt finish Frozen. No mention was made about the price of anything but the matt finish paint job can't be cheap. I'm sure @roadburner can give us more info about the M6 in general.
The M6 has a 4.4L high rev twin turbo charged V8 that develops 560 HP. That provides a 0-60 time in 4 seconds.
FWIW, my Genny has a 5.0L V8 non-turbo that's rated at 420 HP. I don't know what the 0-60 time is but it's got to be in the high 6's. With all things being equal, if Hyundai didn't screw up putting a twin turbo on the 5.0L V8, that would yield 636 HP. I don't think they otta do that because that's more than I can handle...420 HP seems to be my limit.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
the other newer one, which is even bigger I think, had every car on the floor in white. Stylish I guess, but kind of odd looking.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I know I'm stuck on muscle cars here recently, but looking at just one parameter, 0-60, the Mustang GT, Camaro SS, Challenger RT Hemi...all of them are right in that same 0-60 range. Now, they don't have the level of materials, nor the technology. But, they cost less than 1/2 of what an M6 costs.
Heck, during my shopping, on dealer had 5 Corvettes sitting on the showroom floor. All of them stickered in the low $60s. Those will scorch the pavement even more than an M6.
That said, I wouldn't kick an M6 out of bed for leaking 5w30.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
For larger picture, click on name of jpeg under post.
Sometimes Corvettes overwhelm cruise-ins above what I'd like to see. IF I had to pick a Vette, this is the puppy I'd like to take home.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl