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houdini1

You got this one Mike. You will be out chasing those rich widow women in no time !

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

bwia said:

Speaking of extended warranties - why are CPO warranties often better  (at least longer) than the original new car factory warranty?

 Now, thinking about it -- i just answered my question -- the warranty cost is baked in the price of the CPO in the first place.

As they say there is no free lunch 

Additionally, the CPO warranties are based on a TOTAL of "6 years or 100,000 miles" whichever comes first.  That means a CPO vehicle is warranted until the vehicle itself is 6 years old and up to 100,000 TOTAL miles.  So a 3 year old CPO vehicle with 35,000 miles on the odometer is warranted for 3 more years or 65,000 more miles.

Mercedes offers an unlimited mileage warranty for a set number of years which is a much better warranty than most manufacturers offer onCPO's.

I'd rather get unlimited years instead of unlimited miles. My Ford has less than 9000 miles as it approaches 2 years old.

abacomike

Regarding a 7 year/75,000 mile extended bumper-to-bumper warranty (3 more years or 27,000 more miles over the basic bb warranty, assuming I drive 12,000 miles per year) it would cost me $5100 if I buy the contract from BMW before my odometer hits 20,000 miles. And remember, that does not include extended service and maintenance which would cost $1500 more. That is quite a chunk of change - agreed?

It might be worthwhile assuming I can hold onto this car until it is almost 2 years old. At that time, I probably will know more about what my future would look like. If the car is running great, I'll make the decision then. If it's not running great - I would hesitate keeping it longer than the basic warranty.

stickguy

if the price is the same up to 20,000 miles, might as well wait until the end before doing anything.

abacomike

stickguy said:

if the price is the same up to 20,000 miles, might as well wait until the end before doing anything.

Definitely!

qbrozen

abacomike said:

Regarding a 7 year/75,000 mile extended bumper-to-bumper warranty (3 more years or 27,000 more miles over the basic bb warranty, assuming I drive 12,000 miles per year) it would cost me $5100 if I buy the contract from BMW before my odometer hits 20,000 miles. And remember, that does not include extended service and maintenance which would cost $1500 more. That is quite a chunk of change - agreed?

It might be worthwhile assuming I can hold onto this car until it is almost 2 years old. At that time, I probably will know more about what my future would look like. If the car is running great, I'll make the decision then. If it's not running great - I would hesitate keeping it longer than the basic warranty.

$5k?!? Wow. Such high odds that it will break after the factory warranty ends would make me not buy the car in the first place. 

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

Regarding a 7 year/75,000 mile extended bumper-to-bumper warranty (3 more years or 27,000 more miles over the basic bb warranty, assuming I drive 12,000 miles per year) it would cost me $5100 if I buy the contract from BMW before my odometer hits 20,000 miles. And remember, that does not include extended service and maintenance which would cost $1500 more. That is quite a chunk of change - agreed?

It might be worthwhile assuming I can hold onto this car until it is almost 2 years old. At that time, I probably will know more about what my future would look like. If the car is running great, I'll make the decision then. If it's not running great - I would hesitate keeping it longer than the basic warranty.

How likely is a $5100 repair to occur? Are there any known problem areas that you can cost out?

stickguy

plus for the first 2 years it is under powertrain warranty so all that is already covered.

abacomike

When I go walking at the mall in Boca Raton, I sometimes stop at the frozen yogurt store to get 6-7 ounces of "no sugar added" coffee or vanilla yogurt and I sprinkle on sliced almonds to give it a crunchy texture.

So at about 11:15 AM, I get my frozen yogurt and I sit down to enjoy it.  This woman walks into the store, sits down at my table and starts to stare at me.  She looked to be in her late 60's or early 70's, blond (dyed of course) hair, slim. And not unattractive.  After about a minute of this, I politely asked if I could help her.  She then says, "...Michael, I want a cup of vanilla with chocolate fudge and peanuts on top, no whipped cream!"  I asked her why I should buy her frozen yogurt and then asked her how she knew my name.  She responded, "...so you don't recognize the person who took your vitginity almost 60 years ago - shame on you, Michael ------- (last name withheld for obvious reasons)!

Good grief - I then remembered who she was - my first real girlfriend in 9th grade.  It seems she moved to Boca Raton last year after her husband passed away.   Of course I bought her a vanilla frozen yogurt with fudge and nuts "sans" whipped cream and we had a good 1/2 hour of conversation and updates since we last saw each other over 1/2 a century ago.  What a small world!

And of course we exchanged phone numbers - for good old times!!!  

stickguy

How are you expected to recognize someone from that long ago? I barely recognize pictures of my family from back then.

abacomike

stickguy said:

How are you expected to recognize someone from that long ago? I barely recognize pictures of my family from back then.

I barely recognize pictures of my brother and me when we were kids.  LOL! 

ab348

Mike, that's a great story, Can you remember why you broke up?

driver100

Mike you should have said, "Yeh, I do remember you now that you mentioned it....but, you got so much older".

tbirdmarco

@abacomike good luck on Munday.

tbirdmarco

@abacomike In my case looking at them would not do me any good. I am visually inpared can see hair color shape of an person color of there close things like that. but go bye voice best way for me to go! so if I did not hear that voice for an long time dout would Remembor! lol lol. yes small world we do live in!

fintail

Speaking of warranties, when my mom bought a Camry in 2009, she bought an additional warranty (she didn't tell me this til long after she bought the car). The warranty is now expired, and of course she never had a need to use it. Maybe the only person to buy extra warranty with a Camry. Peace of mind, I guess.

That is a fun story of running into an old flame. I can be terrible with faces, I have ran into a few people I knew in high school over the years, and it took me awhile for things to catch up.

isellhondas

abacomike said:

When I go walking at the mall in Boca Raton, I sometimes stop at the frozen yogurt store to get 6-7 ounces of "no sugar added" coffee or vanilla yogurt and I sprinkle on sliced almonds to give it a crunchy texture.

So at about 11:15 AM, I get my frozen yogurt and I sit down to enjoy it.  This woman walks into the store, sits down at my table and starts to stare at me.  She looked to be in her late 60's or early 70's, blond (dyed of course) hair, slim. And not unattractive.  After about a minute of this, I politely asked if I could help her.  She then says, "...Michael, I want a cup of vanilla with chocolate fudge and peanuts on top, no whipped cream!"  I asked her why I should buy her frozen yogurt and then asked her how she knew my name.  She responded, "...so you don't recognize the person who took your vitginity almost 60 years ago - shame on you, Michael ------- (last name withheld for obvious reasons)!

Good grief - I then remembered who she was - my first real girlfriend in 9th grade.  It seems she moved to Boca Raton last year after her husband passed away.   Of course I bought her a vanilla frozen yogurt with fudge and nuts "sans" whipped cream and we had a good 1/2 hour of conversation and updates since we last saw each other over 1/2 a century ago.  What a small world!

And of course we exchanged phone numbers - for good old times!!!  

Going back for seconds I hope?

roadburner

stickguy said:

How are you expected to recognize someone from that long ago? I barely recognize pictures of my family from back then.

I recognize my college girlfriend- even though I haven't seen her since 1980.
Heaven and earth may pass away, but clinically insane lasts forever...

Mr_Shiftright

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

Regarding a 7 year/75,000 mile extended bumper-to-bumper warranty (3 more years or 27,000 more miles over the basic bb warranty, assuming I drive 12,000 miles per year) it would cost me $5100 if I buy the contract from BMW before my odometer hits 20,000 miles. And remember, that does not include extended service and maintenance which would cost $1500 more. That is quite a chunk of change - agreed?

It might be worthwhile assuming I can hold onto this car until it is almost 2 years old. At that time, I probably will know more about what my future would look like. If the car is running great, I'll make the decision then. If it's not running great - I would hesitate keeping it longer than the basic warranty.

How likely is a $5100 repair to occur? Are there any known problem areas that you can cost out?

I don't know how "likely" a $5100 repair would be on that car, but IF it needed a repair, it would likely be $5100.

jwm40517

A few Honda dealers in the North East sell Hondacare warranties really cheap. I believe Honda made them quit selling on line maybe 2 years ago but they still sell cheap on the phone. Dealers like Saccucci in RI and Hyannis Honda sell extended warranties at cost. I saw an article a few years ago that said that even thought they sold at cost they received a bonus from Honda of around $300K each quarter because of the huge volume of Hondacare sales.
When we bought our Oddy van we could get an 8 year 120k from them for $1230 when the local dealer wanted $2500 for the same.

driver100

I actually went to a high school reunion about 12 years ago......I hadn't seen all my classmates for over 40 years.

I wouldn't have recognized any of the ex-cheerleaders - that's for sure. I wouldn't have had a chance to go out with them in high school....I probably could ask them out now and they would go.

I was next to a guy I knew back in school and a young girl came over to him and said her mother was too shy to come over and see him, but, wanted to know why he turned her down for the Sadie Hawkins dance 40 years ago?
He said it was a tough time for him, a death in the family and he just didn't feel up to going, btw this girl was extremely pretty at the time and still was.

She wanted to pick up from where they left off and I think he was crazy but he turned her down....said their lives were way too different for him, she liked travelling around the world and dining at nice restaurants, and he wanted to just play sports and have a quiet retirement.

explorerx4

I missed my 40 high school reunion. Was all ready to go, dressed and everything, but I had a fever that just wouldn't break, so I didn't go.
Was going to take the Mustang. I probably would have been the only person drive the same car to the 20th and 40th reunions.

carnaught

@abacomike, another great story in the every day life of Mike. Was she a little older than you, or just more "advanced" for her age as most girls are? Anyway, she might be a great one to hang out with, see movies, dinner, etc.

Old girlfriends... I've seen a few on FB, and boy, they have not aged well, and some are surprisingly hefty. Of course, I've aged extremely well, and look exactly the same as then, LOL.

qbrozen

My graduating class was 392. I have no desire to see about 385 of them ever again.

stickguy

same here. I never attended a HS reunion. Did go to some of the college ones when it was convenient.

abacomike

ab348 said:

Mike, that's a great story, Can you remember why you broke up?

In New York City back in the 1950's and 1960's, Junior High School covered grades 6-9.  High Schools were grades 10-12.  When I completed 9th grade, I entered Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan.  I lived in Queens.  Stuyvesant was a special high school (boys only) that required an entrance exam + you had to have an IQ over 130 (2 standard deviations above the mean (100 is the mean).  The standard deviation is 15.

She went to a local high school in Queens so we did not socialize in the same groups.  Most of my high school buddies lived in all 5 boroughs of New York City (Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, The Bronx and Manhattan).  It was like a "magnet" high school as were Brooklyn Tech and Bronx High School of Science.  To get into those specialized schools, you had to apply, take the 2-hour entrance exam, go for an oral interview and also have a high IQ.

So I began dating girls who lived in all five boroughs because my friends were from all 5 boroughs.

But 9th grade sure was GREAT in more ways than most boys my age would have thought!  

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

When I go walking at the mall in Boca Raton, I sometimes stop at the frozen yogurt store to get 6-7 ounces of "no sugar added" coffee or vanilla yogurt and I sprinkle on sliced almonds to give it a crunchy texture.

So at about 11:15 AM, I get my frozen yogurt and I sit down to enjoy it.  This woman walks into the store, sits down at my table and starts to stare at me.  She looked to be in her late 60's or early 70's, blond (dyed of course) hair, slim. And not unattractive.  After about a minute of this, I politely asked if I could help her.  She then says, "...Michael, I want a cup of vanilla with chocolate fudge and peanuts on top, no whipped cream!"  I asked her why I should buy her frozen yogurt and then asked her how she knew my name.  She responded, "...so you don't recognize the person who took your vitginity almost 60 years ago - shame on you, Michael ------- (last name withheld for obvious reasons)!

Good grief - I then remembered who she was - my first real girlfriend in 9th grade.  It seems she moved to Boca Raton last year after her husband passed away.   Of course I bought her a vanilla frozen yogurt with fudge and nuts "sans" whipped cream and we had a good 1/2 hour of conversation and updates since we last saw each other over 1/2 a century ago.  What a small world!

And of course we exchanged phone numbers - for good old times!!!  

...TO BE CONTINUED!

abacomike

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

@abacomike good luck on Munday.

Thanks Marco! 

abacomike

oldfarmer50 said:

When I go walking at the mall in Boca Raton, I sometimes stop at the frozen yogurt store to get 6-7 ounces of "no sugar added" coffee or vanilla yogurt and I sprinkle on sliced almonds to give it a crunchy texture.

So at about 11:15 AM, I get my frozen yogurt and I sit down to enjoy it.  This woman walks into the store, sits down at my table and starts to stare at me.  She looked to be in her late 60's or early 70's, blond (dyed of course) hair, slim. And not unattractive.  After about a minute of this, I politely asked if I could help her.  She then says, "...Michael, I want a cup of vanilla with chocolate fudge and peanuts on top, no whipped cream!"  I asked her why I should buy her frozen yogurt and then asked her how she knew my name.  She responded, "...so you don't recognize the person who took your vitginity almost 60 years ago - shame on you, Michael ------- (last name withheld for obvious reasons)!

Good grief - I then remembered who she was - my first real girlfriend in 9th grade.  It seems she moved to Boca Raton last year after her husband passed away.   Of course I bought her a vanilla frozen yogurt with fudge and nuts "sans" whipped cream and we had a good 1/2 hour of conversation and updates since we last saw each other over 1/2 a century ago.  What a small world!

And of course we exchanged phone numbers - for good old times!!!  

...TO BE CONTINUED!

Let's all hope so!!!  

oldfarmer50

fintail said:

Speaking of warranties, when my mom bought a Camry in 2009, she bought an additional warranty (she didn't tell me this til long after she bought the car). The warranty is now expired, and of course she never had a need to use it. Maybe the only person to buy extra warranty with a Camry. Peace of mind, I guess.

That is a fun story of running into an old flame. I can be terrible with faces, I have ran into a few people I knew in high school over the years, and it took me awhile for things to catch up.

I'm the same way. I have trouble recognizing faces out of context. Someone who I might know well at work I might walk right by in the mall.

verdugo

abacomike said:

So I'll know if the drug is working 10-14 days after they take the 22 vials of blood on Monday.

I really hope it works Mike. Fingers crossed.

explorerx4

@Verdugo,
Does that driveway curve around to the left to more garage space?

stickguy

I am bad with faces, and names. But if you tell me what kind of car they have, and I know where they live!

abacomike

carnaught said:

@abacomike, another great story in the every day life of Mike. Was she a little older than you, or just more "advanced" for her age as most girls are? Anyway, she might be a great one to hang out with, see movies, dinner, etc.

Old girlfriends... I've seen a few on FB, and boy, they have not aged well, and some are surprisingly hefty. Of course, I've aged extremely well, and look exactly the same as then, LOL.

Yes, she was about 1-1/2 years older than I was.  I skipped the 8th grade (I was in a class called SP's, or Special Progress).  We studied 7th grade and 1/2 of the 8th grade curriculum in grade 7 and the other 1/2 of the 8th grade and all of the 9th grade curriculum in 9th grade.  So I was in 7-SP1 and the next year I was in 9-SP1.

I had known her since 6th grade and we coupled up when I hit 9th grade.  I'll tell you this - she knew a lot more than I did when we were a couple!!! 

verdugo

explorerx4 said:

@Verdugo,
Does that driveway curve around to the left to more garage space?

LOL. I was testing a while back how to post pictures and I guess the system kept it as a draft.

It's my brother's driveway. And yes, it curves around. There's another 1 car garage attached to the house.

abacomike

verdugo said:

So I'll know if the drug is working 10-14 days after they take the 22 vials of blood on Monday.

I really hope it works Mike. Fingers crossed.

Thanks verdugo!  

abacomike

qbrozen said:

My graduating class was 392. I have no desire to see about 385 of them ever again.

We had a graduating class of over 1,000 boys.  Stuyvesant HS had an all boys student population of over 4000.  The school building was 5-stories tall and even had an elevator for staff.  I am a member of the Alumni Association.  James Cagney and many other stars and famous scientists and doctors went to Stuyvesant HS.

There is a new building now about 6-7 blocks away from the original school and it is now coed.

abacomike

Mr_Shiftright said:

Regarding a 7 year/75,000 mile extended bumper-to-bumper warranty (3 more years or 27,000 more miles over the basic bb warranty, assuming I drive 12,000 miles per year) it would cost me $5100 if I buy the contract from BMW before my odometer hits 20,000 miles. And remember, that does not include extended service and maintenance which would cost $1500 more. That is quite a chunk of change - agreed?

It might be worthwhile assuming I can hold onto this car until it is almost 2 years old. At that time, I probably will know more about what my future would look like. If the car is running great, I'll make the decision then. If it's not running great - I would hesitate keeping it longer than the basic warranty.

How likely is a $5100 repair to occur? Are there any known problem areas that you can cost out?

I don't know how "likely" a $5100 repair would be on that car, but IF it needed a repair, it would likely be $5100.

I agree Shifty.  With all the technology in my car + the power trunk and power rear and side sunshades alone would cost big bucks to repair or replace.  If I keep this car, I would definitely need an extended warranty.

jmonroe

stickguy said:

How are you expected to recognize someone from that long ago? I barely recognize pictures of my family from back then.

Some peoples looks don't change all that much and I seem to be one of them. Keeping your hair helps a LOT. I can't tell you how many people over the years have come up to me and said, "aren't you jmonroe, I'm XXX"? It is embarrassing because sometimes I don't even remember their name let alone what they used to look like.

A few years ago I went with Mrs. j to her 50th high school reunion. I did not graduate from that high school but I went to grade school with a lot of her classmates from another feeder school till 8th grade before my family moved from the Burgh to the suburbs.

When we were checking in a women at the desk that was passing out the name tags looked up and said, "hi jmonroe, you won't even need this because you haven't changed a bit". I took it as a complement but Mrs. j just had to put in a dig saying, "oh I wouldn't say that. He's changed a bit since I first met him and not for the better either". What I thought was my pal at the desk replied, "I was just talking about his looks not his demeanor. I'm sorry to hear he still has a problem with that".

Like I said..."some people never change".

jmonroe

tbirdmarco

@abacomike you are welcome!

tbirdmarco

don't talk to anyone from High School have etempted threw Face Book no luck it is what it is! life gos on!

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

fintail said:

Speaking of warranties, when my mom bought a Camry in 2009, she bought an additional warranty (she didn't tell me this til long after she bought the car). The warranty is now expired, and of course she never had a need to use it. Maybe the only person to buy extra warranty with a Camry. Peace of mind, I guess.

That is a fun story of running into an old flame. I can be terrible with faces, I have ran into a few people I knew in high school over the years, and it took me awhile for things to catch up.

I'm the same way. I have trouble recognizing faces out of context. Someone who I might know well at work I might walk right by in the mall.

I have that problem too. Someone I see playing tennis looks different in regular clothes. I often have to say "I didn't recognize you with your clothes on".....then other people around start to stare.

explorerx4

@driver100,
You wrote "I often have to say "I didn't recognize you with your clothes on" ".
Are you a peeping Tom?

Michaell

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

don't talk to anyone from High School have etempted threw Face Book no luck it is what it is! life gos on!

I had a relatively small graduating class (180 or so). Attended both the 20 and 30 year reunions.

I've connected with many of my former classmates via both FB and LinkedIn. Nice to keep up with their kids and (now) grandkids.

tjc78

I see no one from High school, except for the one I work with. Whats funny there is I took his wife (who also graduated with us) to Senior Prom.

I don't do Facebook or any of those sites so I'm sure that's why I don't stay in touch.

bwia

abacomike said:

When I go walking at the mall in Boca Raton, I sometimes stop at the frozen yogurt store to get 6-7 ounces of "no sugar added" coffee or vanilla yogurt and I sprinkle on sliced almonds to give it a crunchy texture.

So at about 11:15 AM, I get my frozen yogurt and I sit down to enjoy it.  This woman walks into the store, sits down at my table and starts to stare at me.  She looked to be in her late 60's or early 70's, blond (dyed of course) hair, slim. And not unattractive.  After about a minute of this, I politely asked if I could help her.  She then says, "...Michael, I want a cup of vanilla with chocolate fudge and peanuts on top, no whipped cream!"  I asked her why I should buy her frozen yogurt and then asked her how she knew my name.  She responded, "...so you don't recognize the person who took your vitginity almost 60 years ago - shame on you, Michael ------- (last name withheld for obvious reasons)!

Good grief - I then remembered who she was - my first real girlfriend in 9th grade.  It seems she moved to Boca Raton last year after her husband passed away.   Of course I bought her a vanilla frozen yogurt with fudge and nuts "sans" whipped cream and we had a good 1/2 hour of conversation and updates since we last saw each other over 1/2 a century ago.  What a small world!

And of course we exchanged phone numbers - for good old times!!!  

Reminds of an old episode of 2 1/2 men when Charlie was waiting at a bar to meet an old flame Jill. But to his surprise that old flame turned out to be a man. Jill had gender reassignment surgery and even went on to date Charlie's mother. 

So Mike, since you did not readily recognize this person could she have been one of your old 9th grade class mates? After all you said you went to an all boys school. Interesting. 

explorerx4

@bwia,
I appreciate your 'out of the box' thinking.
OTOH, I'm hoping you are referencing a 2 1/2 men episode because you just happened to catch it.

driver100

On May 31st I will be getting together with the guys from the old neighborhood....for the 5th year in a row. These are guys I knew from the beginning until we all split for college or university. Most years we get between 14 to 18 guys. Most became teachers and principals, some engineers, one judge, a few businessmen.....all turned out to be nice guys. Just one was a murderer, murdered a girlfriend and also killed a friend who was a passenger in his car....did that while DUI. He hasn't been invited and doesn't know about our annual get together....and hopefully doesn't find out.

oldfarmer50

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

don't talk to anyone from High School have etempted threw Face Book no luck it is what it is! life gos on!

Only person from high school I keep in touch with is my brother in law.

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

Regarding a 7 year/75,000 mile extended bumper-to-bumper warranty (3 more years or 27,000 more miles over the basic bb warranty, assuming I drive 12,000 miles per year) it would cost me $5100 if I buy the contract from BMW before my odometer hits 20,000 miles. And remember, that does not include extended service and maintenance which would cost $1500 more. That is quite a chunk of change - agreed?



It might be worthwhile assuming I can hold onto this car until it is almost 2 years old. At that time, I probably will know more about what my future would look like. If the car is running great, I'll make the decision then. If it's not running great - I would hesitate keeping it longer than the basic warranty.

How likely is a $5100 repair to occur? Are there any known problem areas that you can cost out?

I don't know how "likely" a $5100 repair would be on that car, but IF it needed a repair, it would likely be $5100.

I agree Shifty.  With all the technology in my car + the power trunk and power rear and side sunshades alone would cost big bucks to repair or replace.  If I keep this car, I would definitely need an extended warranty.

A $5100 repair on 3 out of 4 of my vehicles would result in them being left on the side of the road.