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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,730

    bwia said:

    Waze is annoying suburbanites. The GPS navigation system works on smartphones and tablets with turn-by-turn information and user-submitted travel times and route details.

    Here is the problem. On crowded highways Waze directs drivers to take less travelled and faster routes through quiet sleepy neighborhoods thus increasing traffic in once pristine and tony neighborhoods. But the impact is not all bad after all. Let me explain. (thanks for that borrowed transitional phrase from Mike)

    Driving on these back roads drivers are discovering a new world of upscale housing and real estate. That in turn is driving up demand and prices in these neighborhoods. A win win for buyers and sellers. Last weekend I had the opportunity to observe this phenomenon first hand. My daughter turned on Waze and suddenly we were driving through some of Maryland's upscale properties. From the highway we had no idea such places existed.

    Since then, I have downloaded Waze but have not yet tried it. Isn't technology great?
    By the way, has anyone tried Waze, and what is your experience?


    I use WAZE all the time and I prefer it to Google Navigation---I like the alerts about cops and red light cameras. On the negative side, sometimes the alerts aren't accurate, and you end up watching out for things that aren't there. Also now and then it seems to have trouble hooking up to the GPS.
    Is there any kind of restriction for signing up with WAZE and uploading alert locations? The local police might be playing with you and making a bunch of false alarms.

    That's one good thing about Escort's system with their App, you'd have to buy a very expensive radar detector to make shill reports. I don't see police departments spending money on radar detectors instead of radar guns just to mess with the system.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,730
    nyccarguy said:

    @andres3 - tell them to trade in the Prius on a 4cyl Turbo Macan.  They'll love it!   B)

    I'm a big fan of WAZE as well.  I have Samantha the British woman guiding me.  I've used the factory navigation in my Q40 maybe twice.  It's helped me avoid some mega traffic a few times.  It is also helpful in an area like NY where there are SO many different ways to get to the same place.  

    The factory navigation units just can't keep up with the traffic around here.  Getting me there the shortest distance is pointless.  One time my parents were trying to get from their house in Rockland County (a NYC Suburb located west of the Hudson River) to somewhere in Edgewater, NJ (on the same side of the Hudson).  Their navigation wanted my Dad to go over the George Washington Bridge, Down the Westside Highway, and through the Lincoln Tunnel.  They knew better obviously.

    Don't think the Turbo Macan fits their ideal of environmentally responsible with great gas mileage. :smile:

    However, I did suggest the Accord Hybrid if they had to have a hybrid, but I reiterated my argument that a hybrid didn't make sense for them, since they drive low miles now in retirement. They should just pocket the savings and buy a regular Accord Sport if they like that trim (I think they might like EX better, but it starts to get pretty pricey). They don't want anything even slightly bigger than an Accord (one reason a newer ES350 or ES350-Hybrid gets little consideration). They'd prefer something smaller.

    Asking repeated Toyota owners to buy a Chevy is a tall order given they value reliability as much or even more than the fuel economy. Maybe when the Volt has proven itself for a couple more years in CR. I think the initial results are great if I remember correctly, but the Volt has been changed a lot, and really hasn't been around a long time either way.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,684
    I seem to recall reading at one point that some police were monitoring waze, and trying to game it somehow. Tacky.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

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    jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989


    abacomike said:




    driver100 said:



    Then I spotted this......what is it/ Some kind of Chryco;









    Definitely a Chrysler - you can tell by the shape of the steering wheel.  My very first car was a 1861 Chrysler Newport Coupe which had a similar shaped steering wheel and push-button transmission on the left side of the dash like the one above.  This one looks like a '50's New Yorker IIRC.  Might possibly be a Plymouth deluxe or Belvedere.  
    I think I found a picture of that 1861 Newport. Is that you behind the wheel Mike? ;)


    I know it's him. Mike was the only one back then that would dare to drive a 3 HP Clydesdale wagon.

    Now look at 'em, his radio has more HP than that. :D

    jmonroe

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    imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,171
    And it has a combo sun, tornado, and hurriance protection cover already installed.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

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    bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    How PC. Look closely you will notice the fuel tank in the back, a full barrel of ethanol (40 proof I believe)
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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,005
    jmonroe said:

    abacomike said:




    driver100 said:



    Then I spotted this......what is it/ Some kind of Chryco;









    Definitely a Chrysler - you can tell by the shape of the steering wheel.  My very first car was a 1861 Chrysler Newport Coupe which had a similar shaped steering wheel and push-button transmission on the left side of the dash like the one above.  This one looks like a '50's New Yorker IIRC.  Might possibly be a Plymouth deluxe or Belvedere.  
    Gee, I guess I have created a trend in here about the model years of cars.

    Did you really have an 1861 Chrysler Newport Coupe? :o

    jmonroe

    More B.S. here than on the prices paid forum. My car was older than your car :p

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,005
    abacomike said:

    Dash looks familiar. My Dad had one that looked like that. But, I think his was a Dodge. I do remember the pushbutton transmission. What's old is new again. I have a pushbutton trans in the TLX.

    I think we all agree - it was a Chrysler Motors car. Could be a Dodge, GG. At least we have consensus on something here.

    Back in the 1950's and early 1960's, Chrysler products were ahead of most of the styling from other manufacturers. They lost there heads up styling advantage in the latter 1960's and have never gained it back sufficiently to attract droves of customers. What they do now is put 600+ horsepower engines into whatever they can mass produce and attract consumers for speed and power. Styling is not one of their advantages, at least in my opinion.
    They used to say their cars had great engineering too...so much for that as well.

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,005
    qbrozen said:

    dino001 said:

    You submit a resignation and suddenly they find the money, match and raise the other offer. It went as far as some managers would actually quietly encourage (or otherwise suggest) you to shop around so they can get real arguments in front of upper management to give you a raise.

    I was one of those managers at my last company. Had to pull the old resignation game once myself fairly early on in my tenure there.
    One grandchild just played that game with his accounting firm. He considers it a great play....I think the danger is once the tax season is over and they want to let someone go....unless he is extremely good, he will be the first to go. IMO, companies think of it as a loyalty issue!

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,005
    edited June 2017


    abacomike said:




    driver100 said:



    Then I spotted this......what is it/ Some kind of Chryco;









    Definitely a Chrysler - you can tell by the shape of the steering wheel.  My very first car was a 1861 Chrysler Newport Coupe which had a similar shaped steering wheel and push-button transmission on the left side of the dash like the one above.  This one looks like a '50's New Yorker IIRC.  Might possibly be a Plymouth deluxe or Belvedere.  
    I think I found a picture of that 1861 Newport. Is that you behind the wheel Mike? ;)


    Those are real spoke wheels too!

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    suydamsuydam Member Posts: 4,676
    andres3 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    @andres3 - tell them to trade in the Prius on a 4cyl Turbo Macan.  They'll love it!   B)

    I'm a big fan of WAZE as well.  I have Samantha the British woman guiding me.  I've used the factory navigation in my Q40 maybe twice.  It's helped me avoid some mega traffic a few times.  It is also helpful in an area like NY where there are SO many different ways to get to the same place.  

    The factory navigation units just can't keep up with the traffic around here.  Getting me there the shortest distance is pointless.  One time my parents were trying to get from their house in Rockland County (a NYC Suburb located west of the Hudson River) to somewhere in Edgewater, NJ (on the same side of the Hudson).  Their navigation wanted my Dad to go over the George Washington Bridge, Down the Westside Highway, and through the Lincoln Tunnel.  They knew better obviously.

    Don't think the Turbo Macan fits their ideal of environmentally responsible with great gas mileage. :smile:

    However, I did suggest the Accord Hybrid if they had to have a hybrid, but I reiterated my argument that a hybrid didn't make sense for them, since they drive low miles now in retirement. They should just pocket the savings and buy a regular Accord Sport if they like that trim (I think they might like EX better, but it starts to get pretty pricey). They don't want anything even slightly bigger than an Accord (one reason a newer ES350 or ES350-Hybrid gets little consideration). They'd prefer something smaller.

    Asking repeated Toyota owners to buy a Chevy is a tall order given they value reliability as much or even more than the fuel economy. Maybe when the Volt has proven itself for a couple more years in CR. I think the initial results are great if I remember correctly, but the Volt has been changed a lot, and really hasn't been around a long time either way.
    Well, I've been a lifelong Honda-Mazda-Toyota owner and I made the switch. The Volt has prettystellar reliability ratings, and most people lease anyway. I have met so many people who bought the Volt for the mpg and are surprised how much they love it. It's not a penalty box for sure.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,744
    edited June 2017
    jmonroe said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe said:

    Michaell said:

    fordfool said:

    jmonroe said:

    Hey, lookie what I found...it's a wonder that poor steering wheel didn't fall off from the weight of all those buttons. :o
    http://0.tqn.com/w/experts/Pontiac-Repair-828/2010/06/Steering-Wheel.jpg

    jmonroe

    So where are the cruise control settings? :o
    Like any GM car of that era, on the left stalk.
    You are correct Michaell.

    @driver100, there are 2 horn buttons. They are the large buttons on the left and right side of all the other buttons. Zoom in and you'll see the horn icons.
    jmonroe
    I see them now....now the problem is trying to find the horn button from all the other buttons when you need it.

    I think GM had a safety feature for that. If you bumped the AM or FM button during a panic situation, the horn would blow. :p

    jmonroe
    One thing I don't like about all the buttons on new cars is the danger of pressing the wrong one. The push button start on my Ford is pretty close to the push button for the radio. A few times I almost shut off the motor while trying to turn on the radio.

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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,730

    Asking repeated Toyota owners to buy a Chevy is a tall order given they value reliability as much or even more than the fuel economy. Maybe when the Volt has proven itself for a couple more years in CR. I think the initial results are great if I remember correctly, but the Volt has been changed a lot, and really hasn't been around a long time either way.

    Well, I've been a lifelong Honda-Mazda-Toyota owner and I made the switch. The Volt has prettystellar reliability ratings, and most people lease anyway. I have met so many people who bought the Volt for the mpg and are surprised how much they love it. It's not a penalty box for sure.
    ______________

    I have a feeling you are younger than my parents, if I had to guess. You know the old saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks? That being said, you do own a Buick, so maybe you are not younger! Ha! :open_mouth:

    I know the average owner age has been pulled down by Buick. Probably more due to death certificates than new buyers though :open_mouth:

    I'd feel more comfortable recommending the Volt after another year of "stellar" reliability results.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,744
    abacomike said:

    Dash looks familiar. My Dad had one that looked like that. But, I think his was a Dodge. I do remember the pushbutton transmission. What's old is new again. I have a pushbutton trans in the TLX.

    I think we all agree - it was a Chrysler Motors car. Could be a Dodge, GG. At least we have consensus on something here.

    Back in the 1950's and early 1960's, Chrysler products were ahead of most of the styling from other manufacturers. They lost there heads up styling advantage in the latter 1960's and have never gained it back sufficiently to attract droves of customers. What they do now is put 600+ horsepower engines into whatever they can mass produce and attract consumers for speed and power. Styling is not one of their advantages, at least in my opinion.
    abacomike said:

    Dash looks familiar. My Dad had one that looked like that. But, I think his was a Dodge. I do remember the pushbutton transmission. What's old is new again. I have a pushbutton trans in the TLX.

    I think we all agree - it was a Chrysler Motors car. Could be a Dodge, GG. At least we have consensus on something here.

    Back in the 1950's and early 1960's, Chrysler products were ahead of most of the styling from other manufacturers. They lost there heads up styling advantage in the latter 1960's and have never gained it back sufficiently to attract droves of customers. What they do now is put 600+ horsepower engines into whatever they can mass produce and attract consumers for speed and power. Styling is not one of their advantages, at least in my opinion.
    The last Chrysler that gave me that Wow factor for styling was the Crossfire. I also liked the old late90s early 2000s Concord/Intrepid twins.

    Modern versions that kind of look good are the 300/Charger and Challenger but none really give me that "gotta have it" feel. A guy at work just restored a 1970 383 Cuda and it looks so right compared to the awkward current version.



    U

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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,730

    jmonroe said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe said:

    Michaell said:

    fordfool said:

    jmonroe said:

    Hey, lookie what I found...it's a wonder that poor steering wheel didn't fall off from the weight of all those buttons. :o
    http://0.tqn.com/w/experts/Pontiac-Repair-828/2010/06/Steering-Wheel.jpg

    jmonroe

    So where are the cruise control settings? :o
    Like any GM car of that era, on the left stalk.
    You are correct Michaell.

    @driver100, there are 2 horn buttons. They are the large buttons on the left and right side of all the other buttons. Zoom in and you'll see the horn icons.
    jmonroe
    I see them now....now the problem is trying to find the horn button from all the other buttons when you need it.

    I think GM had a safety feature for that. If you bumped the AM or FM button during a panic situation, the horn would blow. :p

    jmonroe
    One thing I don't like about all the buttons on new cars s the danger if pressing the wrong one. The push bottom start on my Ford is pretty close to the push button for the radio. A few times I almost shut off the motor while trying to turn on the radio.

    Why not just leave the radio on all the time?

    Also, doesn't the button have to be pushed for 3 seconds or more to shutdown the engine if you are moving? That is a good design feature so the button never accidentally goes "off," unless you are going 0 MPH.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,744
    andres3 said:

    jmonroe said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe said:

    Michaell said:

    fordfool said:

    jmonroe said:

    Hey, lookie what I found...it's a wonder that poor steering wheel didn't fall off from the weight of all those buttons. :o
    http://0.tqn.com/w/experts/Pontiac-Repair-828/2010/06/Steering-Wheel.jpg

    jmonroe

    So where are the cruise control settings? :o
    Like any GM car of that era, on the left stalk.
    You are correct Michaell.

    @driver100, there are 2 horn buttons. They are the large buttons on the left and right side of all the other buttons. Zoom in and you'll see the horn icons.
    jmonroe
    I see them now....now the problem is trying to find the horn button from all the other buttons when you need it.

    I think GM had a safety feature for that. If you bumped the AM or FM button during a panic situation, the horn would blow. :p

    jmonroe
    One thing I don't like about all the buttons on new cars s the danger if pressing the wrong one. The push bottom start on my Ford is pretty close to the push button for the radio. A few times I almost shut off the motor while trying to turn on the radio.

    Why not just leave the radio on all the time?

    Also, doesn't the button have to be pushed for 3 seconds or more to shutdown the engine if you are moving? That is a good design feature so the button never accidentally goes "off," unless you are going 0 MPH.
    Good question since I never actually hit the stop/start button while moving.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,138


    The last Chrysler that gave me that Wow factor for styling was the Crossfire. I also liked the old late90s early 2000s Concord/Intrepid twins.

    Modern versions that kind of look good are the 300/Charger and Challenger but none really give me that "gotta have it" feel. A guy at work just restored a 1970 383 Cuda and it looks so right compared to the awkward current version.

    I thought the Crossfire looked pretty good. I remember driving home from work one afternoon when the convertible version was just introduced and they had one parked out front with the top down - light blue metallic with a ivory interior. I had to stop and get out to look at it. Thought it was just gorgeous.

    The 1970 Challenger and Cuda were fabulous looking designs, though I always thought their interiors let them down, being very plasticky and cheap-looking.

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,967


    Hey, lookie what I found...it's a wonder that poor steering wheel didn't fall off from the weight of all those buttons. :o
    http://0.tqn.com/w/experts/Pontiac-Repair-828/2010/06/Steering-Wheel.jpg

    jmonroe


    So where are the cruise control settings? :o


    Like any GM car of that era, on the left stalk.


    You are correct Michaell.

    @driver100, there are 2 horn buttons. They are the large buttons on the left and right side of all the other buttons. Zoom in and you'll see the horn icons.
    jmonroe


    I see them now....now the problem is trying to find the horn button from all the other buttons when you need it.



    I think GM had a safety feature for that. If you bumped the AM or FM button during a panic situation, the horn would blow. :p

    jmonroe


    One thing I don't like about all the buttons on new cars s the danger if pressing the wrong one. The push bottom start on my Ford is pretty close to the push button for the radio. A few times I almost shut off the motor while trying to turn on the radio.



    Why not just leave the radio on all the time?

    Also, doesn't the button have to be pushed for 3 seconds or more to shutdown the engine if you are moving? That is a good design feature so the button never accidentally goes "off," unless you are going 0 MPH.


    Good question since I never actually hit the stop/start button while moving.



    Most makes you have to hold the button down while moving to shut the car off.  This was one of things that came up during the whole Run-a-way Lexus thing that killed the family in California (and started the entire Toyota sudden unintended acceleration scandal). 

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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,386
    @andres3,
    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)
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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,744

    @andres3,
    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)

    Well I have a bald head so maybe I'll try that.

    Speaking of V8s...take a look at my next car. I'll show that GG he can't shame us with his fancy new Acura. I'll get me one too. :D

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6169880801.html



    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

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    fordfoolfordfool Member Posts: 240
    ken117 said:


    COMCAST raised my monthly cost to $300 (I have everything). I decided to cancel
    and go with another provider. I called COMCAST who immediately dropped the cost,
    for a bit more access, to $200.

    All cable / cell companies seem to be run like a middle-eastern bazaar.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,226
    I remember when the Crossfire debuted, I went to check it out at the local dealer. They had something like a 5K ADM on it. I think I laughed out loud. Interesting looking car though, I think I might like the convertible more.
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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,005


    @andres3,
    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)

    Well I have a bald head so maybe I'll try that.

    Speaking of V8s...take a look at my next car. I'll show that GG he can't shame us with his fancy new Acura. I'll get me one too. :D

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6169880801.html



    I don't see any mileage......can't be too low for $1550.

    These are my views of his little review too:
    Good day, I'm trying to sell my 06 ACURA TL. This has been maintained at the dealer, with minimal miles, and has received many improvements. It has a clean record and it's in superb condition. Its paint is white and its interior is very tidy. You can't find a better deal anywhere. Brand-new tires, cool AC unit, automatic everything. The driver is a non-smoker. On the market for 1550 or please tell me your best offer. Hoping sell this car because of changes to my living conditions and I cannot it afford anymore. In case you would like the VIN number to check out the CARFAX I'll be glad to provide it to you. Thanks for reading my post

    Overly polite. I noticed two guys at tennis are very "honesty challenged" to put it politely, but do they ever come across as overly polite and nice....too nice. The same in business...just be up front an honest, overly polite and I have become suspicious, and I have been right about 95% of the time. I like casual in an ad, funny, light....but, I am overly suspicious of extremely polite.

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    thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,221



    @andres3,
    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)


    Well I have a bald head so maybe I'll try that.

    Speaking of V8s...take a look at my next car. I'll show that GG he can't shame us with his fancy new Acura. I'll get me one too. :D

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6169880801.html





    Wow, that's the super rare V8 TL.  That's a 1 of 1 rarity!   B)
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,730
    edited June 2017
    fintail said:

    I remember when the Crossfire debuted, I went to check it out at the local dealer. They had something like a 5K ADM on it. I think I laughed out loud. Interesting looking car though, I think I might like the convertible more.

    I stopped by the Acura dealer near my work this afternoon just because, and mostly due to @graphicguy glowing reviews of the A-Spec.

    Unfortunately, they only had 1, and it was a FWD Accord V6 with an Acura and A-Spec badge. :worried: I joke, but I'm almost certain GG got the real deal SH-AWD?

    Even with just 290 HP, was easy to spin the front wheels on a rapid start 90 degree turn test I always like to employ. I do like the looks and the interior though. This one was the all stark black interior with plain metallic white exterior though. Alcantara is good in that it definitely holds you better in hard turns. I'd say it probably has triple or quadruple the friction of leather. I liked the way it drove, especially in Sport + mode. Regular sport mode seemed "normal" to be honest. I'd definitely like it if they dropped the twin turbos from the NSX into this puppy though. :smile:

    One last edit: They had an NSX, $220,000 with a $20,000 ADM (LOL!) It does get 21 MPG though!
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
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    jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    dino001 said:

    You can see this new customer fetish going to particular heights in publicly traded companies, when the focus is almost exclusively in making the next quarter and showing growth to the investors, no matter what, no matter how. Happy customer means one we can raise the price today, if ever so slightly, preferably even more than slightly. With those companies you either need to be genuinely unhappy, or at least pretend to be somehow dissatisfied, to get a pricing concession.

    BTW, same goes for employees pay. I used to work for a large publicly traded engineering company and their salary attitude was, as long as you don't resign, you're happy with your pay and measly raises given by our superior leaders (usually below inflation) and your direct manager can do nothing for you, even if he/she believes you should be paid more. You submit a resignation and suddenly they find the money, match and raise the other offer. It went as far as some managers would actually quietly encourage (or otherwise suggest) you to shop around so they can get real arguments in front of upper management to give you a raise. No bad feelings from them, either and they know it's the only way to play the system. It's really a terrible mindset - those quiet productive people, who do their job well and ask to be appreciated without throwing threats, are simply being screwed. I'm glad I no longer work there (there were many more reasons to leave).

    I too worked for a very large engineering company but I made a career out of it. I didn't have to threaten to leave because a few times they listened to reasoning. One time as a grunt employee then as a first level manager.

    I remember one time back in the mid 70's when I had a performance review, my manager told me how well I was doing then proceeded to tell me I was getting the standard merit increase per company policy. I said something like "isn't that a contraction". He said, "yeah and I can see your point. Let me take your request to my boss". Fortunately, it worked and I got another couple percent which I knew was more than most guys were getting because I heard all the rumblings. I wasn't going to rock the boat so I pretty much ducked out of any conversations when I saw where they were going.

    Fast forward to when I was forced to take a management position (that is a story in itself and someday I might tell about that fiasco. It's a lot more than 150 words). Anyway, when the budgets came out I could see that they were being cut and I would have a hard time looking my guys in the eye and trying to present the "company line". I was irate and slammed the packet on my desk and loudly said, "I'll be damned if I'm going to go along with this sh**t". I shouldn't have been so loud because I forgot that my office door was open and my secretary came running in and said, "what's going on". I didn't answer her but she saw the packet on my desk and she knew what it was. She just said, "OH" and calmly backed out of my office and closed the door.

    To make a looong story short, when I calmed down I devised a plan that I would take to my boss (not the boss that I just mentioned). I told him that my group had been dumped on several times because "management" felt we were the best group to handle problems after they were given to another group or two without success. I told my boss that we were good enough to handle problems that others couldn't handle so we should be good enough for more than a "standard merit increase". He agreed and told me he would take it up the ladder to see what could be done. I mentioned that I would be more than happy to go with him when he presented my case. He got very hyper and said, "jmonroe, I don't think that would be a good idea. Let me do it my way. I'll get back to you ASAP". To have some fun, as I was leaving his office I said, "and don't forget to get a little more for me too in your budget while you're at it". He just shouted as I opened the door, "I knew you were going to zing me with that". Now I'm standing at his secretary's desk and she said, "jmonroe, what did you do now"? I think she said that because I had a reputation for being a PITA sometimes. I told her I couldn't say but she pretty much guessed what it was given the time of the year it was and she was my secretary for about a year before moving up a notch. Thankfully, I got a bigger budget but I could only pull that off twice, not that I didn't try on other occasions.

    I can tell you first hand, pretty much like you said, if employees dislike reviews, managers dislike them just as much, maybe even more.

    BTW, I didn't realize it at the time, but all I was doing was what we have learned in here about buying a car..."if you don't ask, you don't get".

    Man, am I glad that I don't have to do that anymore.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,744
    fintail said:

    I remember when the Crossfire debuted, I went to check it out at the local dealer. They had something like a 5K ADM on it. I think I laughed out loud. Interesting looking car though, I think I might like the convertible more.

    I remember when the Saturn Sky was introduced I saw one with not only an ADM sticker but the dealer listed holdback as an extra charge.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,744
    driver100 said:


    @andres3,
    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)

    Well I have a bald head so maybe I'll try that.

    Speaking of V8s...take a look at my next car. I'll show that GG he can't shame us with his fancy new Acura. I'll get me one too. :D

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6169880801.html



    I don't see any mileage......can't be too low for $1550.

    These are my views of his little review too:
    Good day, I'm trying to sell my 06 ACURA TL. This has been maintained at the dealer, with minimal miles, and has received many improvements. It has a clean record and it's in superb condition. Its paint is white and its interior is very tidy. You can't find a better deal anywhere. Brand-new tires, cool AC unit, automatic everything. The driver is a non-smoker. On the market for 1550 or please tell me your best offer. Hoping sell this car because of changes to my living conditions and I cannot it afford anymore. In case you would like the VIN number to check out the CARFAX I'll be glad to provide it to you. Thanks for reading my post

    Overly polite. I noticed two guys at tennis are very "honesty challenged" to put it politely, but do they ever come across as overly polite and nice....too nice. The same in business...just be up front an honest, overly polite and I have become suspicious, and I have been right about 95% of the time. I like casual in an ad, funny, light....but, I am overly suspicious of extremely polite.
    The joke is that it's listed as a V8.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,985

    fintail said:

    I remember when the Crossfire debuted, I went to check it out at the local dealer. They had something like a 5K ADM on it. I think I laughed out loud. Interesting looking car though, I think I might like the convertible more.


    I also went to see it when it first came out. The salesman was very reluctant to even show it to me. He finally opened it for me, I squeezed inside and discovered I could not even sit up straight in it. I left disappointed.

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    vernachildressvernachildress Member Posts: 1
    Hi all, I've got an S2 Xantia 1.8 16v, It’s been more than a year that i own the car and it’s a real pleasure. Looks like theres a wealth of knowledge on here and im looking forward to getting to know you guys!
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    Hi everyone, Just a quick hello to other forum members. Over the weekend I bought a Peugeot 407 coupe 2.2L. This I think is a hidden gem of a car - I am very impressed and chuffed on how little I paid for such a nice car.
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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,744
    qbrozen said:



    fintail said:


    I remember when the Crossfire debuted, I went to check it out at the local dealer. They had something like a 5K ADM on it. I think I laughed out loud. Interesting looking car though, I think I might like the convertible more.


    I also went to see it when it first came out. The salesman was very reluctant to even show it to me. He finally opened it for me, I squeezed inside and discovered I could not even sit up straight in it. I left disappointed.

    It was really a previous generation SLK so it's size was a known quantity when I test drove. I just barely could squeeze in but I was so hot to drive it I didn't care. What killed the deal for me is that the 3.2L non turbo just wasn't very fast. That and the price.

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,005

    driver100 said:


    @andres3,
    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)

    Well I have a bald head so maybe I'll try that.

    Speaking of V8s...take a look at my next car. I'll show that GG he can't shame us with his fancy new Acura. I'll get me one too. :D

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6169880801.html



    I don't see any mileage......can't be too low for $1550.

    These are my views of his little review too:
    Good day, I'm trying to sell my 06 ACURA TL. This has been maintained at the dealer, with minimal miles, and has received many improvements. It has a clean record and it's in superb condition. Its paint is white and its interior is very tidy. You can't find a better deal anywhere. Brand-new tires, cool AC unit, automatic everything. The driver is a non-smoker. On the market for 1550 or please tell me your best offer. Hoping sell this car because of changes to my living conditions and I cannot it afford anymore. In case you would like the VIN number to check out the CARFAX I'll be glad to provide it to you. Thanks for reading my post

    Overly polite. I noticed two guys at tennis are very "honesty challenged" to put it politely, but do they ever come across as overly polite and nice....too nice. The same in business...just be up front an honest, overly polite and I have become suspicious, and I have been right about 95% of the time. I like casual in an ad, funny, light....but, I am overly suspicious of extremely polite.
    The joke is that it's listed as a V8.

    I nailed him but I missed that......V8!
    Maybe he dropped a Mustang V8 into the Acura.

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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,411

    driver100 said:


    @andres3,
    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)


    Well I have a bald head so maybe I'll try that.

    Speaking of V8s...take a look at my next car. I'll show that GG he can't shame us with his fancy new Acura. I'll get me one too. :D

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6169880801.html





    I don't see any mileage......can't be too low for $1550.

    These are my views of his little review too:
    Good day, I'm trying to sell my 06 ACURA TL. This has been maintained at the dealer, with minimal miles, and has received many improvements. It has a clean record and it's in superb condition. Its paint is white and its interior is very tidy. You can't find a better deal anywhere. Brand-new tires, cool AC unit, automatic everything. The driver is a non-smoker. On the market for 1550 or please tell me your best offer. Hoping sell this car because of changes to my living conditions and I cannot it afford anymore. In case you would like the VIN number to check out the CARFAX I'll be glad to provide it to you. Thanks for reading my post

    Overly polite. I noticed two guys at tennis are very "honesty challenged" to put it politely, but do they ever come across as overly polite and nice....too nice. The same in business...just be up front an honest, overly polite and I have become suspicious, and I have been right about 95% of the time. I like casual in an ad, funny, light....but, I am overly suspicious of extremely polite.


    The joke is that it's listed as a V8.



    I nailed him but I missed that......V8!
    Maybe he dropped a Mustang V8 into the Acura.


    I see ads for V6 BMWs; I would never buy a car from someone so mentally feeble. 

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,684
    even if it has new breaks?

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    sdasda Member Posts: 6,999


    @andres3,
    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)

    Well I have a bald head so maybe I'll try that.

    Speaking of V8s...take a look at my next car. I'll show that GG he can't shame us with his fancy new Acura. I'll get me one too. :D

    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6169880801.html



    My SIL has a TL with ELS/nav in that same pearl white, tan interior that she bought new in '06. Has around 120k, all dealer serviced including the timing belt and spark plugs. It has been a wonderful car and still looks and drives great. She is thinking in the next year she is going to buy a MDX or something similar. Sigh, another sedan buyer converted.

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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,472



    driver100 said:


    driver100 said:



    @andres3,

    If you had ever driven a nice V8 pony car, you would realize having the radio on is like putting hair spray on a bald head. :)



    Well I have a bald head so maybe I'll try that.



    Speaking of V8s...take a look at my next car. I'll show that GG he can't shame us with his fancy new Acura. I'll get me one too. :D



    https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6169880801.html









    I don't see any mileage......can't be too low for $1550.



    These are my views of his little review too:

    Good day, I'm trying to sell my 06 ACURA TL. This has been maintained at the dealer, with minimal miles, and has received many improvements. It has a clean record and it's in superb condition. Its paint is white and its interior is very tidy. You can't find a better deal anywhere. Brand-new tires, cool AC unit, automatic everything. The driver is a non-smoker. On the market for 1550 or please tell me your best offer. Hoping sell this car because of changes to my living conditions and I cannot it afford anymore. In case you would like the VIN number to check out the CARFAX I'll be glad to provide it to you. Thanks for reading my post



    Overly polite. I noticed two guys at tennis are very "honesty challenged" to put it politely, but do they ever come across as overly polite and nice....too nice. The same in business...just be up front an honest, overly polite and I have become suspicious, and I have been right about 95% of the time. I like casual in an ad, funny, light....but, I am overly suspicious of extremely polite.


    The joke is that it's listed as a V8.





    I nailed him but I missed that......V8!

    Maybe he dropped a Mustang V8 into the Acura.


    I see ads for V6 BMWs; I would never buy a car from someone so mentally feeble. 

    Or if the car is powered by a VTECH V4

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    sdasda Member Posts: 6,999
    Hey Bradd, when you have the timing belt replaced on the Pilot, are you going to replace the idler pulley tensioner? A local Honda dealer is advertising timing belt replacement on V6s for $599. That only includes the timing belt, water pump and aux belt. Wondering if that is a prudent way to go. I had the spark plugs changed around 85k, so that is done. We are at 99.6k and will have the timing belt done at the next oil change 103k.

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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,472
    @sda

    Yes. My mechanic advised to have the tensioner replaced as well. Might as well, while everything is open.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,684
    that is my theory. cheap part, labor already paid for so just do it while it is all opened up.

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    suydamsuydam Member Posts: 4,676
    andres3 said:


    Asking repeated Toyota owners to buy a Chevy is a tall order given they value reliability as much or even more than the fuel economy. Maybe when the Volt has proven itself for a couple more years in CR. I think the initial results are great if I remember correctly, but the Volt has been changed a lot, and really hasn't been around a long time either way.

    Well, I've been a lifelong Honda-Mazda-Toyota owner and I made the switch. The Volt has prettystellar reliability ratings, and most people lease anyway. I have met so many people who bought the Volt for the mpg and are surprised how much they love it. It's not a penalty box for sure.
    ______________

    I have a feeling you are younger than my parents, if I had to guess. You know the old saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks? That being said, you do own a Buick, so maybe you are not younger! Ha! :open_mouth:

    I know the average owner age has been pulled down by Buick. Probably more due to death certificates than new buyers though :open_mouth:

    I'd feel more comfortable recommending the Volt after another year of "stellar" reliability results.

    The Buick Encore is the first GM car we have owned. We took a chance on it because at there was no other vehicle like it. We just love how luxe it feels at a non-luxe price. Its kinda the Swiss Army knife of vehicles -- does everything well. The Volt, again -- there really isn't any other vehicle to compare it to -- nothing affordable with the combo of features, mpg, and lack of range anxiety. One tries something different when the usual manufacturers -- Honda, Nissan, Mazda -- aren't making the vehicles one wants to buy.
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    houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,328


    abacomike said:




    driver100 said:



    Then I spotted this......what is it/ Some kind of Chryco;









    Definitely a Chrysler - you can tell by the shape of the steering wheel.  My very first car was a 1861 Chrysler Newport Coupe which had a similar shaped steering wheel and push-button transmission on the left side of the dash like the one above.  This one looks like a '50's New Yorker IIRC.  Might possibly be a Plymouth deluxe or Belvedere.  
    I think I found a picture of that 1861 Newport. Is that you behind the wheel Mike? ;)


    Ha, a team like that was laughable back in those days. Remember Ronald Reagan and "Death Valley Days" ? 20 mule team Borax !!

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    jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    houdini1 said:


    abacomike said:




    driver100 said:



    Then I spotted this......what is it/ Some kind of Chryco;









    Definitely a Chrysler - you can tell by the shape of the steering wheel.  My very first car was a 1861 Chrysler Newport Coupe which had a similar shaped steering wheel and push-button transmission on the left side of the dash like the one above.  This one looks like a '50's New Yorker IIRC.  Might possibly be a Plymouth deluxe or Belvedere.  
    I think I found a picture of that 1861 Newport. Is that you behind the wheel Mike? ;)
    Ha, a team like that was laughable back in those days. Remember Ronald Reagan and "Death Valley Days" ? 20 mule team Borax !!

    I don't know how I know this but you are showing your age. :o

    jmonroe

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    houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,328
    jmonroe said:

    houdini1 said:


    abacomike said:




    driver100 said:



    Then I spotted this......what is it/ Some kind of Chryco;









    Definitely a Chrysler - you can tell by the shape of the steering wheel.  My very first car was a 1861 Chrysler Newport Coupe which had a similar shaped steering wheel and push-button transmission on the left side of the dash like the one above.  This one looks like a '50's New Yorker IIRC.  Might possibly be a Plymouth deluxe or Belvedere.  
    I think I found a picture of that 1861 Newport. Is that you behind the wheel Mike? ;)
    Ha, a team like that was laughable back in those days. Remember Ronald Reagan and "Death Valley Days" ? 20 mule team Borax !!
    I don't know how I know this but you are showing your age. :o

    jmonroe

    When you are as old as I am, you don't deny it, you flaunt it !!

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    graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 13,669
    This and that.....andres...yes, mine is the SH AWD version. ASpec has two choices of interior...the black you saw, and the red I bought. I could have lived with the red over black.

    But, my second choice was Black over Red, which they didn't have. Then, there's the blue over red that I've only seen pictures of.....which clashes a little. That said, it's not like mine looks all the demure to begin with.

    I believe the ZF 9 speed is mapped differently and has had a revamp as it's nothing like the last version of that transmission I drove in a '15 TLS I test drove a while ago.

    I keep mine in Sport + nearly always. Only time I don't is when I'm on the highway. Speaking of which, you can tell where the car industry is going with autonomous driving if my TLX is any indication. Tried the radar cruise and lane keep on the interstate last night. A little unnerving having it hold a constant speed and slow down when coming on traffic and my hand barely touching the steering wheel while the car keeps itself in the right lane. That's something that will take me a while to get used to.

    That '06 TL OF showed the ad for is actually a good car, even though the seller (if he's legit) knows nothing of his car. V6 is what it came with. First Acura I bought was an '04 version of that car. Fun car. Torque steer was bothersome, but once you knew to hold on tight on hard acceleration, you sort of got used to it. That's when Acura was selling something like 50K TLs per year. I think their goal for the '18s is something like 35K for the '18 MY.

    As far as suydam's Volt. I think I mentioned I test drove one when I was replacing the CTS. I actually liked that car....a lot....just not enough to plunk down my greenbacks on it, though.

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Another celebrity Lamborghini bites the dust:


    Chris Brown's Aventador hits concrete barrier on Mulholland Drive. Off to the wrecking yard--a total.

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    abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,258

    This and that.....andres...yes, mine is the SH AWD version. ASpec has two choices of interior...the black you saw, and the red I bought. I could have lived with the red over black.

    But, my second choice was Black over Red, which they didn't have. Then, there's the blue over red that I've only seen pictures of.....which clashes a little. That said, it's not like mine looks all the demure to begin with.

    I believe the ZF 9 speed is mapped differently and has had a revamp as it's nothing like the last version of that transmission I drove in a '15 TLS I test drove a while ago.

    I keep mine in Sport + nearly always. Only time I don't is when I'm on the highway. Speaking of which, you can tell where the car industry is going with autonomous driving if my TLX is any indication. Tried the radar cruise and lane keep on the interstate last night. A little unnerving having it hold a constant speed and slow down when coming on traffic and my hand barely touching the steering wheel while the car keeps itself in the right lane. That's something that will take me a while to get used to.

    That '06 TL OF showed the ad for is actually a good car, even though the seller (if he's legit) knows nothing of his car. V6 is what it came with. First Acura I bought was an '04 version of that car. Fun car. Torque steer was bothersome, but once you knew to hold on tight on hard acceleration, you sort of got used to it. That's when Acura was selling something like 50K TLs per year. I think their goal for the '18s is something like 35K for the '18 MY.

    As far as suydam's Volt. I think I mentioned I test drove one when I was replacing the CTS. I actually liked that car....a lot....just not enough to plunk down my greenbacks on it, though.

    You're right about the auto cruise control and self-braking. Basically, it keeps the car moving at the same speed as the traffic in front or the car. Auto-steering is a bit unnerving as well. On Monday morning, assuming I feel up to it, I am driving up to my brother's house in Ponte Vedra. I just press the cruise control button - then the auto-steering button to keep the car centered in the lane I'm driving in - then the distance control button which sets a predetermined distance between the car in front of me and my car (it has three or four different settings based upon car lengths). You must have a couple of fingers or a hand on the steering wheel or it will disconnect itself after 10 seconds with nothing touching the steering wheel.

    In my opinion, the autonomous steering is not an essential option. However, I did get a special discount on my auto insurance policy for auto-cruise with self braking and blind spot monitors. Another discount was for the pedestrian safety and cross traffic safety feature (both front and rear) whereby the car will alert the driver with beeps in the rear of the car (letting you know that there is rear cross-traffic of a car, object or pedestrian) or a front alert (letting the driver know it is front cross traffic or pedestrian). If the driver does not take action within a second, the car brakes itself to avoid the collision in the rear or the front. Those features are, in my opinion, great for old geezers like me.

    So Monday, I will be using the driver assist options for cruise and distance control as well as self steering for lane-keeping. I did notice that if the road curves and there are white or yellow lines visible on the road, the car steers through the curve by itself.

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,005
    edited June 2017
    Mike
    So Monday, I will be using the driver assist options for cruise and distance control as well as self steering for lane-keeping. I did notice that if the road curves and there are white or yellow lines visible on the road, the car steers through the curve by itself.



    What if there are lane markings and then there are say pylons, or worse one of those cement barriers they sometimes put in the lane when they are working on the road? Driving on I-74 through Cincinnati was like a slalom event.

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    jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989

    Another celebrity Lamborghini bites the dust:


    Chris Brown's Aventador hits concrete barrier on Mulholland Drive. Off to the wrecking yard--a total.

    Maybe he can convince the insurance company it was the push button tranny shifter that went haywire. Like, "I really tried to slow down but the car took on a life of its own". Might turn into another investigation. Worth a try, I say. :'(

    jmonroe

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