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Need 3rd winter car and tow strong tow vehicle, maybe I'll get rid of the toy m3cic, and go for newer CS or turbo. Any thoughts??
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Steve, Host
BTW, does anyone know whether "old"-style nav has TMC built in or available as an upgrade?
Also, does anyone know exactly what the "facelift" Cayenne will look like and/or are there any pix available online?
Congrats on the new Cayenne - will Porsche honour the warranty on it or is it now a gray market car?
Steve, Host
I am getting the indicator for 1st service in 200 miles.
I read here that costs can vary so I have called my local dealer, in Englewood, NJ & a few others in NJ trying to find out what the service consists of & what is cost.
The only answer I got - not from my dealer - was $500+tax for oil change, tire rotation, brake cleaning & full inspection. Sounds pretty high to me.
Can this car just be brought to Jiffy Lube or a local Porsche mechanic for oil change or will this mess with my warranty?
Anyone recommend a good priced local dealer for service.
I love the car & we havent really had any problems, except:
- key fob does suck - unlock / lock is really a pain
- plenty of trim pcs inside have fallen off: hood release latch, trunk latch molding & a few others
- when sitting in the front drivers seat & looking down, right where the floor mat starts I see open space with visible wires - is this normal?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Other than the oil change, everything else is just "inspection" for which I have high degree of disregard in terms of the value for money. Oil change is the only real work here. You should be able to get the oil change done at dealer at approx. $ 200-$225.
At 30,000 miles, may be do a fuller service..
Just a thought..
Also, does it only take premium unleaded and is the insurance premium high?
Breaks where excellent in the beginning, but were factory recalled - now they squeek (and this is normal according to the local Porsche dealer)
Air Conditioning smells of vinegar for the first 2 minutes (and this is normal according to the local Porsche dealer)
Transmission needs revving up to 1200-1500rpm when the car is cold before the car moves, as the transmission fluid has settled (normal according to the local Porsche dealer, nothing they can do)
Tires wear is very high - every 10.000 miles they are due
Comfort Memory Package keeps on resetting to factory presets - can not be fixed
Parts on the interior are coming loose and falling off (they all get fixed free of charge, but 22 visits to the shop in 3.5 years is excessive.
The sad part is that Porsche USA or Porsche Deutschland does nothing about it, their point is that if it gets repaired, the problem is resolved (they forget that the customer is not happy about the poor quality of the $75000 car!!!) :lemon:
Air conditioning condensation ( water in the system) will smell like vinegar or fungus.....and this happens in many vehicles too. EVen my new Honda Odyssey.
The car is heavier, so let the engine warm up a few seconds, then go. Also, remmeber, there are over 35 computers on the thing, so it takes time to boot up and synchronize.
Tire wear and brake wear is high on larger vehicles. My mechanic says he does his suburban brakes every 12 months. Mine (cayenne) brakes have lasted 3 years and 36,000 miles. I found a mechanic that is factory traiined, and does it for hundreds less. Not much can be done with the tire wear, since these are performance tires. MY tires on the AcureTL ( yokohamas summer tires) lasted only 16 months....and the dealer said the same thing.
Comfort memory package can be set and left alone. However, if you have been bringing the vehicle to the dealership, and they had to disconnect the battery, then it resets to zero.
Parts of any car will fall off with usage...though it needs to be defined what kind of usage. I have parts fall off in the Jaguar, Acura, Toyota, HOnda, and Cayenne. OF course, they should all fix the darn things..so they never come off....!!! BUt once it is secured too tightly, then it is hard to remove them.
You are overlooking the fact that it is the best SUV /sports car... bar none.
Whenever it drives, it is a sensational car and a great SUV, however the service provided by Porsche in terms of dealing with the fact that the early models (mine is from Feb 2003) are full of bugs and are not will to do anything about it is pretty sad. I had 18 shop visits and repairs in a little over three years - I am sure you would not consider that reasonable either.
I would have expected a company with the reputation of Porsche to react the same way a Four Seasons Hotel will react if you stay at their hotels and experience rude staff, dirty rooms, bad meals - you don't pay for it and they invite you back at their expense to proof that the bad experience was unusual. If you have a chewy, overcooked $40 steak at your favorite restaurant, you will not have to pay for it, they will fix it - so why is it different for Porsche dealing with a $70.000 car??? :lemon:
I think the difference works out to about $69,960 - not counting tips.
Seriously, refunding the price of 1 steak out of 100 in 1 day is a little more trivial than refunding the price of 1 Cayenne out 1 in 1 week. A restaurant manager won't need quite as much convincing that a problem exists and a refund is desirable (i.e. merely the word of a customer) than a Porsche dealer.
tidester, host
For the last few weeks I have been trying to sell my Cayenne S and despite the fact than I am advertising below KBB lowest private party rating (they have Excellent, Good and Poor quality ratings and though the car is excellent, I am advertising below the poor rating even though the car looks like out of the shop) I have received no calls (FYI, KBB is about E-$46k/G-$44k/P-$42k), went down to $39K. Trade-in and Carmax offered me $35k/$32k respectively.
Now I saw a 2004 Cayenne S from a dealer advertised at $36k - has anyone else had similar problems selling their Cayenne?
Anyone with a brilliant idea on how to sell it at a decent rate (I would hate to loose 50% or $35,000 after just over 3 years) ....
There's more in the Advice on selling your car discussion, including advice on that whole eBay thing.
I think your experience is pretty much where the market is, unfortunately. One reason is the high gas prices over the past few months, another reason is due to the issues with the '03-'04 models. Currently, there are a lot of '04 Cayennes for sale in the market place, so the large supply base drives down prices.
Maintenance is actually not as expensive as one might thiink. Back in 1958, my VW required oil changes every 1500 miles, valves adjusted every 3000 miles and when one figures inflation etc., it is cheaper to maintain a Cayenne....depreciaton excepted.
Tires...I took the summer tires off my 2005 Turbo at 20 miles and put on Khumo all season tires. Wear rating is about 460. At 20,000 miles they still have at least 1/2 their tread left. Mucch better than my original tires on my 2004 which I replaced at 18,000 miles.
Hope to hear some more on this site.........Fantine
Welcome !!!
it is great to have another knowledgeable person on this site...and thanks for the info on the Khumo tires.
so far I have been loving my 2004 turbo too.....
how is the Quest doing ? hope all is well, and you had a nice summer....did you do any trips ?
Oh....and I try to change oil on cayenne every 7500 miles...though some say it needs it only every 15,000 ??
Remember that the Europeans change their oil every 10,000 miles or longer and think we're crazy for harping on 3,000 mile oil changes. I'm on a 7,500 mile interval on the Quest with plain oil and it's lasted 113,000 miles so far. :shades:
Enjoy the car for a few more years or get it throughly detailed and carefully target your advertizing.
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Which others? All the make/model discussions are being reopened.
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2008 Cayenne flashed before US buyers' eyes (channel4.com)
One question... does anyone know how to make it so when you hit teh lock button on the remote you can set it so it doesn't honk the horn? Its kind of annoying and I would rather it just flash its lights. I've read the manual a bunch fo times (skimmed thru some of it), and didnt' see it anywhere....
Also anyone use HBL in Northern Virginia? Its teh closest dealer for me and just wondering how their service is and any perks they have (free car washes, free loaners, etc).
I"m glad to be part of this forum (hope its not completely dead yet!)
Things will pick up again!
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JR
but I scroll thru the menu, just hit horn delete, and scroll back...and only the lights come on and off during alarm activation and deactivation.