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Toyota Tundra

meeker2meeker2 Posts: 2
edited April 2014 in Toyota
I want to buy a Tundra but am concerned about pulling a 5000 pound travel trailer. Not a fifth wheel. We will do some mountain trips and do not want to lose speed on grades of 6% or so. Will it do it? Thanks.


  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Posts: 1,006
    You don't need a long warranty for your silv because you'll dump it within 3 years. Quadrunner suffered with his for a year before dumping it. Too bad he didn't learn his lesson. He bought another new chev. Why? Because the salesman promised all the bugs were finally worked out. Can you say.....SUCKER!!!!!!
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    Read this article:

    In short - the Tundra is as capable as any other 1/2 ton to tow the load you are talking about.

  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    If you want to maintain 65-75 mph on level ground, plan on spending lots of time in 3rd gear. Going up 6-7% grades in Colorado mountains, you can figure on 48-52 mph, shifting back and forth between 2nd and 3rd gear. You need to check your tongue weight. A 5000 lb trailer can cause hobby horsing on the rear springs. And what about your electric trailer brake provisions?

    People use small trucks to haul travel trailers all the time, so it's not a problem for the truck. It's just an issue of how comfortable you can be sharing the right lane with the older motor homes, getting the same fuel mileage also. Strong crosswinds are always a fact of life if you travel in the west. Stability of your combination is always a concern. Long wheelbases are more stable.

    The seldom appreciated factor that makes hauling travel trailers uncomfortable for light trucks is wind resistance. People intuitively think because you can accelerate briskly, maybe even power up a hill, that it won't be straining all those other times when you're on level ground but facing a strong headwind for 100 miles, unable to exceed 50 mph, steering wheel cranked to the side, and your family riding with white knuckles and clenched teeth. Travel trailers punch huge holes in the wind, and have aerodynamic efficiency equal to towing a parachute behind you. A 5000 lb trailer, on level ground, can be just as hard to tow as a 7000 lb trailer when you face opposition from the wind.

    I have lots of friends with travel trailers. And I myself have a 25 ft 12,500 GVWR motorhome with Ford 460 V8. They get mileage towing as bad as mine, with no significant speed advantage either. To a man, all of them who don't already have power stroke diesels, cummins, big blocks, V10's etc are constantly discussing the merits of getting one.

    Just the most recent example, my friend Doug Linder bought a Toy Hauler travel trailer nearly identical in to the one in the trailer life article referred to above. He has a Ford F150. Now has the new trailer, now looking for a diesel.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    Finally got rid of that Lemonado of yours? Some people (obviously not you) value quality and reliability.

    The 5000 lb. trailer in question would be easily towed by the Tundra. Quad had to get the diesel Lemonado because of the weakness of his 1/2 ton Lemonado.

    If you get a Tundra, you get a truck built to work. The lemonado is fine for towing a couple of bags of groceries - anything else it will break quick. They use those weak S10 drive trains.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    What is the problem? You seem to be a bit raggedy of late. I guess being banged around by the silverado owners doesn't help either now does it.
    Just wondering......
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Posts: 1,000
    you said a mouthfull there when pointing out the wheelbase fact. not many people look at that, and if perpetual tundra buyers looked at that, they would obviously realize what a joke the tundra is. there are cars with longer wheelbase dimensions. LOL i think lotsa folks look at the tundra cause it's so cute to the eye, and that's what gets them into trouble later on.
    Bama- why the negative input towards quad? he's simply trying to point out the obvious to a perspective buyer. does "experience" even ring a bell in that negative attitude of yours?
    you're still ticked off about being ripped off and it seems your only too happy to point more people in the wrong direction, instead of safety. hopefully there's only one of your kind.
  • I own a 01 Tundra and I would not tow a travel trailer over 4000 lbs. The reasons for this are that by the the time you load the gear, fuel, water and passengers you are getting close to the maximum gross weight of the truck. The Tundra is a good truck but it is only a half ton and in my opinion not a heavy duty one at that. Look into getting a 3/4 ton with a larger engine and drive train etc. if you are going to do a lot of towing. These comments are based on my own experience so no flaming required. JH
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    Have you ever towed anything? I didn't think so. The tow rating of ANY truck includes passengers, fuel, etc. The Chev's tow rating unlike any other truck does not include ANY options. The Tundra is rated to tow 7200 lb. 5000 lb, is a walk in the park.

    Trailer Life magazine, who actually towed 6500 lb through the Sierra Nevada mountains in mid summer with the Tundra said:

    "That said, the Toyota pulled as well as any of its Big Three counterparts and yet, when not in tow, the Tundra was nimble and veritably attacked the winding mountain roads. It handled and responded akin to a smaller version of its actual self. The steering was tight, the ride was distinctly not like any truck we've driven lately, and, pushed to its limits, the Tundra accelerates 0 to 60 mph in a rapid 8.1 seconds. It seems the Tundra is more than able to take on its intended half-ton-rated counterparts in the U.S. light-truck market." Emphasis added.
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Posts: 1,000
    "when the tundra was NOT in tow that it was as nimble as it's smaller version of it's actual self", read that as TACOMA. really bama, can't you at least agree with a fellow tundra owner? or are you still intent on leading a perspective buyer down the unsafe path of destruction.
    sorry meeker, but you should read bama's responses to other members in the "Tundra vs. big 3 topic". you'll see that this individual is here to simply annoy people.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    Hey, if telling the truth about the wimpy Big2 pickups annoys you, then let it be.

    Are you STILL on that "Mah Truck is bigger" illusion?

    Let's see:

    1) The Tundra has 3" more ground clearance. Even Chev admits this.

    2) The Tundra LOADED with 1200 lb. stops quicker than the Chev EMPTY.

    3) The Tundra hauls more.

    4) The Chev is making Hyundai build quality look good.

    5) GM sales have DECREASED 16% since last year. Toyota set sales records. Could this mean that the consumer has realized that Chev is selling expensive junk?

    6) A comparably equipped Chev only has 400lb more towing capacity.

    7) The Chev has those weak S10 drive components (they will be breaking quick).
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Posts: 1,000
    do you even know what topic you are in when you start spewing all this jibberish? trying to make PF's job harder?
    go in the right topic and we'll talk.
    don't even start on this 3' GC thing again, cause you know that's an out right lie.
  • While I appreciate your enthusiasm for the trailering qualities of the Tundra I think that you are wrong as far as towing 7200 lbs with it. Have you ever towed that amount of weight with your tundra in any kind of mountain driving? I have towed 4000 lbs worth of boat and trailer and based on my experience that is the maximum that I would want to pull in mountain driving. You can tow 6000 lbs with a Tacoma but would you really want to? If I wanted to tow a large trailer I would want the towing vehicle capacity to have a good safety margin of capacity weight not maxed out. As I said at the end of my post my comments are based on my own experience and I don't think you are in a position to say whether or not I have towed 1000lbs or 7000lbs. I am not trying to offend anyone but meeker2 asked a question and based on my experience with the tundra I felt qualified to answer the question. BMW I think that the tundra is a good truck and I would buy another one but it is not a heavy duty work truck in my opinion.JH
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    Oh, so you HAVE towed 6500lb through the Sierra Nevada Mountains? Why do your results differ from Trailer Life magazines'? Do you also post also under Quadrunner100?
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Posts: 1,000
    can't you say anything without insulting someone else in the process? tundrathunder is telling the truth about his experience, yet you want him to word it a different way so as to please your ears. facts are facts, the answer for the original inquiry here is to buy a 3/4 ton truck.
    -bottom line........tundra= bad possibilties when towing more than it can handle.
  • If you read my post I said I have towed 4000lbs. of boat and trailer. It was not in the Sierra Nevada mountains but was through the coastal mountain range in British Columbia. My experience is not based on what I read in a magazine but in actually going out and doing it. I have always found that actually doing something gives you a better grip on the reality of the situation then reading about it does. You have your opinion and I have mine. That's what makes free speech so wonderful. I was only relating my experiences with towing with the tundra in response to a question that was asked. It was not based on magazine articles or hearsay.JH
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Posts: 1,006
    If you think that any truck would drive the same with a 7000 trailer as it does empty, you'll be disappointed. I've driven my Dad's 3/4 ton chevy(longbed, camper special) with a trailer and my Tundra with his trailer. They both felt the same, except the Tundra was more maneuverable. The big difference was when we installed the load leveler rods on the chev. It drove with a lot more stability. It would have been too much trouble to transfer the mounts over to the Tundra, but I'm sure it would have helped as well. Bottom line: If you try to drive the same with a heavy trailer as you do with an empty truck, your creating a danger to yourself and others on the road. Always leave more margin of safety when increasing payload/weight.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    Quad and/or Red,

    Are you saying that you need a 3/4 ton to tow anything over 5000lb? I would think that a lot of 1/2 ton truck owners would disagree with you.

    I might admit that a Chev can't tow more than 5000lb, but a Toyota?

    We have to talk credibility here. Trailerlife magazine actually tested a Tundra towing 6500 lb and posted the results. Quad or Red assumed a new identity and posted otherwise.
  • Sorry to disappoint you but I am posting under my own user name. My addy is [email protected]
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Posts: 1,000
    bama please take a reading class, i'll even pay for it. certainly a 1/2 ton fullsize truck(chevy,ford & dodge) is capable of towing the figures mentioned thus far, but having more (GVWR and power) is usually better and safer.
  • I don't want to get into the tundra vs big 1 or 2 or 3 argument as you folk's have pretty much got it cased but I do agree with your statement that said "having more GVWR and power is usually better and safer"
    I am now off to enjoy a drive in my black tundra with my wife on a beautiful sunny day in Vancouver. Maybe go up one of the local ski mountains without anything in tow.JH
    Everyone please have a lovely day
  • meeker2meeker2 Posts: 2
    Thanks to all of you who responded to my question about towing 5000pounds (loaded).
    In trailer life they gave the truck high marks but indicated it got only 6.9 mpg when towing. Do any of you know if this is an isolated case or it is what I can expect when towing?
    Thanks again.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    The number is correct, whether Tundra, or any of the other 1/2 tons. And it isn't so much weight as it is wind resistance, but that's been stated adequately.

    The question I have, since you seem comfortable enough with the notion of a Tundra pulling a 5000 lb travel trailer, is why the concern for fuel economy while towing? Seems to me, the logic you are applying is that it will only be occasional. If it was a full time habit, I think you would be asking more pertinent questions.
  • jim4444jim4444 Posts: 124
    Thought I cleared up your misunderstanding about "S10 drivetrains in Silverados".

    In case I havent here goes.

    The 4.3 V6 that you can get in both trucks was originally in the full size trucks, so its a Silverado drive train in the S10.

    Read it slow and at least 4 times maybe then you will understand.
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Posts: 1,000
    may take him awhile as i've got him on another equation at this time. Doh!
  • jim4444jim4444 Posts: 124
    You have him looking for a corner in a round room again? LOL
  • oldharryoldharry Posts: 413
    A Tundra will pull your 5000# trailer, and if you only pull occasionally the comfort and convenience of the Tundra will serve you well. You will get less fuel economy while towing. I own a half ton truck ('94) C-1500 and seldom tow, and never over 5000#. If I need to tow something heavy for a long distance, or haul something really heavy, I trade trucks with my son for the job and use his 3/4 ton. Stability in a strong gusty cross wind is a virtue of larger trucks.

  • chirravuchirravu Posts: 106
    I now have 65 thousand miles on it, most of with hauling in excess of 3-5 thousand pounds. Number of repairs - ZERO !! I now know why Toyota is confident of extending power train warranties of 5 yr. / 60,000 miles as compared to 3 year/ 36000 by the rusty rest. BMW, as many of you have noticed., Big2 makes trucks outside US, such as Mexico/Canada etc (for those fools who still think of Big3, only time/death can cure them., after all, one of them rusty three since long has become a German based company )

    Now talk about real deal !!

    You take care now
  • chirravuchirravu Posts: 106
    Where my friends trucksrme justtheone have gone !? Did they already cloaked their identities !?
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    more than likely got the boot.
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Posts: 1,000
    he's here alright, just ain't nothing interesting enough to talk about.
    now start a topic about a REAL truck and there's bound to be some good conv.....
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