Why don't you call your so-called good bud Meeker and ask him to post his decision to this forum?
It is funny that you should talk about being childish when you post to this group calling another poster a "Toy odor salesman".
And if I remember right this flamewar was started when a Chev owner who has never owned a Tundra or towed anything with one claimed that it couldn't tow 5000 lb. I'm sorry if I embarassed him with the facts.
You embarrassed me, but not with facts, wasting everyones time arguing because you insist on being pig headed. Remember this post below? You want his decision? You can ask him for it. Email me.
>#208 of 302 f1jules by bamatundra Jun 05, 2001 (09:08 pm) >Actually, the original poster chose a Tundra. He saw through Red and Quad's meaningless drivel.
I recognized your original post about Tundra towing as the hugest load of male bovine excrement that I've read. You don't own a Tundra and have never towed anything with one.
When I posted articles from Truck Trend, Trailer Life, Truck World and Automobile magazines all of which said the Tundra towed over 5000 lb. very competently, you got your feelings hurt and got all defensive. I'm sorry if the facts hurt.
The last post Meeker made to this forum indicated to me that he most likely would go with a Tundra. He has not posted anything to the contrary. I'm sorry but after the first load of bull hockey you posted, I don't believe anything you say.
If you are such good buds with Meeker, have him post his decision. Or is he too meek?
I have never said that the Tundra is the best tow vehicle. Of course a 3/4 ton will tow better than a 1/2 ton and a 1 ton is better than 3/4 ton, and a semi is even better. That wasn't the question meeker asked.
that they are 1 in the same? - Bama- i'm sorry pal, but post #243 was not mine, could you please show me what you are talking about? BTW, the service manager at Michael Toyota will be more than happy to explain the problems encountered on the 2wd tundras regarding the spider joints (bearings,universals,etc.). he'll also email you a copy(s) of the service order(s). let me know if you are interested ok?
Yea, I may have to eat some crow. Brought the motor home back last saturday(long story) and picked up a new Super Duty on Monday. This one is a V10, XLT, auto, crew cab, 2WD. With rebates and $360 over invoice I paid $26,000 for it.
Some people actually pay thousands more for a Toyota???? Will never figure it out.
BTW Toy boys, my 3/4 ton F-250 Super Duty will pull 10,000 pounds at the hitch. The SAME as the 1 ton F-350. It will pull MORE than a 1 ton dually using a 5th wheel. Of course, according to some Toy owners, if you add dual rear wheels to a camry it increases the towing capacity. LOL!!! There goes another Toy myth.
Quad, what's the diff on the GM's?? I KNOW on the Ford's 250 vs. 350 it's only spring rates and the availability of DRW's (on 350) Trans, motors, axles....everything else is the same. Sort of like tacomas and tundras...j/k.
"my 3/4 ton F-250 Super Duty will pull 10,000 pounds at the hitch. The SAME as the 1 ton F-350. It will pull MORE than a 1 ton dually using a 5th wheel."
According to your (ill)logic we should all be better off towing with rangers or Tacomas. A dually provides a more stable platform for towing large,heavy fifth wheels. (i.e. you don't see many big rigs made without the dual tire configuration.) If you know why single wheel designs would be better, I suggest you inform Mack, White, Peterbuilt, Volvo, etc. immediately. Apparently, they've been doing it all wrong for years now!
I saw in "Modern Tire Dealer" this month that a couple companies (Goodyear and I forget the other) are coming out with "Super Singles" a seventeen and a half inch wide 22.5 rim to replace duals with one W - I - D - E tire. Maybe they have been doing it wrong all these years.:<)
You stated "so i'll keep my posts in the toyota vs. big3 topic ok? " Since then you have posted here many times. What's up with that? Did you forget?
And recently Mod started a topic stating he wasn't going to post in Edmund's forums anymore. What's up with that? It seems that neither of you know what the heck you are talking about.
When (if ever) one or both of you know which way is up, I would be glad to continue the 3/4 vs. 1 ton discussion in a more appropriate forum (Hint: the Tundra is a 1/2 ton). Have a nice day.
can some direct me to information about limited slip diff. that is supposedly available in the Tundra as an aftermarket item ? is this a dealer option ? i ordered Toy's literature on the truck and nothing is mentioned about this. i live in Ohio and a large truck with no LS is almost worthless where i live in winter. i am still amazed that Toyota would NOT have included this as an option on a truck in this class of vehicle.
"a seventeen and a half inch wide 22.5 rim to replace duals with one W - I - D - E tire."
I totally agree with you. Whether it's 2 skinny tires, side-by-side or one really W - I - D - E tire, your accomplishing the same thing. Stability and overall tire footprint. What Mod seems to think is that 1 skinny tire is more effective, safer and stable than duals in towing. Of course, he's profoundly mistaken!
I would think that one huge advantage of dual rear wheels would be that it adds redundancy. If you have a rear blowout, it is not necessarily a disaster. (Especially important if you are using Firestone tires) LOL.
I just post to Tundra forums, but it seems that in every Tundra forum that Rwell posts, you are stalking him and continuously posting insults to him. Rwell owns a Tundra, and as such should be able to post to Tundra forums.
I think that there should be a place where Tundras are discussed without insecure Big2 owners intruding and insulting Tundra owners and bragging about how HUGE their trucks are.
If you want to get into a free for all - then the Tundra vs. big2 forum is the place to do it.
By the way - you need to calm down just a little. Have a nice day.
I wouldn't post at all if it were not for the wealth of wrong info you two (one???) post on a constant basis.
When robbie stated that MOST F150's were made in Mexico comes to mind. When you can't accept that the LOWEST point of a vehicle is the lowest point and not where Toy thinks it should be. When you can't accept that a Chevy is rated to tow more than a Toy. When it's said that adding DRW's increases towing capacity. When someone says that a 1 ton out tows a 3/4 ton. I can go on but I'm sure you get the point. You guys quit posting false info and I'll have no reason to post.
BTW, on the calm thing.....pot, kettle, black. LOL!!!
you said that the tundra was capable of 5th wheeling. care to tell us all, how to do it? what is the dimension from cab to center point? i'm only asking 2 questions, so i'll check back in a couple days to give you plenty of time.
give the info requested in my last post, and your wish will come true. - BTW, I received an email today, and when I asked for an identity, I received no reply. it was in regards to the spider epidemic infesting the tundra. my guess is, it was YOU. LOL
It seems the big 2 guys can't control themselves from posting to a Tundra only topic. They also come across as very upset and frustrated. It's unfortunate that they choose to by lemon after lemon from the big2. Instead of changing their thinking and embacing quality over blind brand loyalty, they spend endless hours trying in vain to justify their big 2 truck mistakes. Very sad....but hopefully they will eventually seek the therapy they so desperately need.
What about when you can't accept the fact that the Shaker got a Marginal and the Tundra got the highest rating possible in front of our eyes..??? Is that the kind of thing you are talking about????
If you paid attention to what you read, you will discover that mod doesn't own a chevy.
rwell "they spend endless hours trying in vain to justify their big 2 truck mistakes. Very sad....but hopefully they will eventually seek the therapy they so desperately need."
or the person that emailed me in regards to info i have concerning the toyota spider/universal joints/bearings, please reply to my request for your identity. when you do, i'll be glad to send the info i have in my possession.
Yes! Please rest your case. Nothing worse than someone's pathetic attempts to shore up an unsound argument. Old Harry ended up validating my point perfectly with his W - I - D - E tire post.
Yes! You stated that tire manufacturers were developing one really wide tire to take the place of 2 skinnier tires for big rigs. This illustrates the point perfectly. Either dual wheels, tandem wheels or really big wide wheels are all better suited for heavy duty hauling than one regular sized wheel.
Vibrating HD 2500 by XXXXXX May 20, 2001 (02:59 pm) "The truck has developed another vibration in 1st. gear, but in the same RPM range. My speed in O./D is 43 to 55 MPH. Dealer said an engineer will be in town May 23 to discuss the problem. Started BBB arbitration this week. only 3800 miles. I did drive a non 4x4 with same eng.trans/rear gear and No vibration. I think the converter is not locking up right. also drove the GMC version of a like truck, no problem. May-be a bad parts inventory when a few went down the line. I did notice a GM recall on their Web page to replace the converters on ALL Light pick-ups Maybe mine will fall in this catagory. Any other Info Out there?"
Instead of eating their sour grapes in the Tundra owners topics, chevy owners should be helping fellow lemorado owners.
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It is funny that you should talk about being childish when you post to this group calling another poster a "Toy odor salesman".
And if I remember right this flamewar was started when a Chev owner who has never owned a Tundra or towed anything with one claimed that it couldn't tow 5000 lb. I'm sorry if I embarassed him with the facts.
Now - back to trucks.
>#208 of 302 f1jules by bamatundra Jun 05, 2001 (09:08 pm)
>Actually, the original poster chose a Tundra. He saw through Red and Quad's meaningless drivel.
When I posted articles from Truck Trend, Trailer Life, Truck World and Automobile magazines all of which said the Tundra towed over 5000 lb. very competently, you got your feelings hurt and got all defensive. I'm sorry if the facts hurt.
The last post Meeker made to this forum indicated to me that he most likely would go with a Tundra. He has not posted anything to the contrary. I'm sorry but after the first load of bull hockey you posted, I don't believe anything you say.
If you are such good buds with Meeker, have him post his decision. Or is he too meek?
I have never said that the Tundra is the best tow vehicle. Of course a 3/4 ton will tow better than a 1/2 ton and a 1 ton is better than 3/4 ton, and a semi is even better. That wasn't the question meeker asked.
Since then you have posted here many times. So, how about it?
Ok bama, why would a 1 ton truck automatically make a better tow vehicle than a 3/4 ton?
Can't wait to hear this one!!!
God, I hope I don't have to get into CGVWR as it relates to gross weight and the effect all this has on towing.........again.
If robbie couldn't get the answer correct, do you think that bama can?
Tundras are not bought for the haul, have no 3/4 or 1 ton so maybe that's why they wouldn't know the answer....whadda u think?
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Bama- i'm sorry pal, but post #243 was not mine, could you please show me what you are talking about? BTW, the service manager at Michael Toyota will be more than happy to explain the problems encountered on the 2wd tundras regarding the spider joints (bearings,universals,etc.). he'll also email you a copy(s) of the service order(s). let me know if you are interested ok?
Because none of us owns one! HeHe!
Some people actually pay thousands more for a Toyota???? Will never figure it out.
BTW Toy boys, my 3/4 ton F-250 Super Duty will pull 10,000 pounds at the hitch. The SAME as the 1 ton F-350. It will pull MORE than a 1 ton dually using a 5th wheel. Of course, according to some Toy owners, if you add dual rear wheels to a camry it increases the towing capacity. LOL!!! There goes another Toy myth.
Quad, what's the diff on the GM's?? I KNOW on the Ford's 250 vs. 350 it's only spring rates and the availability of DRW's (on 350) Trans, motors, axles....everything else is the same. Sort of like tacomas and tundras...j/k.
According to your (ill)logic we should all be better off towing with rangers or Tacomas. A dually provides a more stable platform for towing large,heavy fifth wheels. (i.e. you don't see many big rigs made without the dual tire configuration.) If you know why single wheel designs would be better, I suggest you inform Mack, White, Peterbuilt, Volvo, etc. immediately. Apparently, they've been doing it all wrong for years now!
In post #243 you stated "so i'll keep my posts in the toyota vs. big3 topic ok? "
Since then you have posted here many times. So, how about it?
What's the deal?
Harry
Since then you have posted here many times. What's up with that? Did you forget?
And recently Mod started a topic stating he wasn't going to post in Edmund's forums anymore. What's up with that? It seems that neither of you know what the heck you are talking about.
When (if ever) one or both of you know which way is up, I would be glad to continue the 3/4 vs. 1 ton discussion in a more appropriate forum (Hint: the Tundra is a 1/2 ton). Have a nice day.
i am still amazed that Toyota would NOT have included this as an option on a truck in this class of vehicle.
The TRD differential has the balance of your 5yr 60,000 mi powertrain warranty if installed by the dealer.
I have a 4WD and have not found a need for one. If you own a 2WD YMMV.
More name calling by the big 2 crowd. They don't own a Tundra, have nothing constructive to add. Just a lot of name calling.
Posted by redsilverado.....
"i swear we all just got a lot dumber"
I totally agree with you. Whether it's 2 skinny tires, side-by-side or one really W - I - D - E tire, your accomplishing the same thing. Stability and overall tire footprint. What Mod seems to think is that 1 skinny tire is more effective, safer and stable than duals in towing. Of course, he's profoundly mistaken!
I think that there should be a place where Tundras are discussed without insecure Big2 owners intruding and insulting Tundra owners and bragging about how HUGE their trucks are.
If you want to get into a free for all - then the Tundra vs. big2 forum is the place to do it.
By the way - you need to calm down just a little. Have a nice day.
When robbie stated that MOST F150's were made in Mexico comes to mind. When you can't accept that the LOWEST point of a vehicle is the lowest point and not where Toy thinks it should be. When you can't accept that a Chevy is rated to tow more than a Toy. When it's said that adding DRW's increases towing capacity. When someone says that a 1 ton out tows a 3/4 ton. I can go on but I'm sure you get the point. You guys quit posting false info and I'll have no reason to post.
BTW, on the calm thing.....pot, kettle, black. LOL!!!
i'm only asking 2 questions, so i'll check back in a couple days to give you plenty of time.
Since then you have posted here many times. What's up with that? Did you forget?
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BTW, I received an email today, and when I asked for an identity, I received no reply. it was in regards to the spider epidemic infesting the tundra. my guess is, it was YOU. LOL
rwell
"they spend endless hours trying in vain to justify their big 2 truck mistakes. Very sad....but hopefully they will eventually seek the therapy they so desperately need."
You have got to be kidding....
Excellent post, robbie/chad. What ever it is you're trying to convey. I rest my case.
Old Harry ended up validating my point perfectly with his W - I - D - E tire post.
"The truck has developed another vibration in 1st. gear, but in the same RPM range. My speed in O./D is 43 to 55 MPH. Dealer said an engineer will be in town May 23 to discuss the problem. Started BBB arbitration this week. only 3800 miles. I did drive a non 4x4 with same eng.trans/rear gear and No vibration. I think the converter is not locking up right. also drove the GMC version of a like truck, no problem. May-be a bad parts inventory when a few went down the line. I did notice a GM recall on their Web page to replace the converters on ALL Light pick-ups Maybe mine will fall in this catagory. Any other Info Out there?"
Instead of eating their sour grapes in the Tundra owners topics, chevy owners should be helping fellow lemorado owners.
there is a fix for that. Replace the two piece driveshaft with a one piece
Todd, stop being a rwell. I've NEVER commented on the crash test either way. Surely you know that; correct? Or is it another case of toystupidity.
If you don't have anything nice to say in a post, don't post it.
Commenting about other users, insulting, attacking, namecalling... whatever shape or form you want to name it is unacceptable in Town Hall.
It's already a Monday morning. Let's not make it a long one, OK?
Stick to the topics please.
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