Can you just change the oil filter and not the oil?

armtdm

The pump actually holds nothing, it is simply the device attached to two tubes, one at each end and it sucks out the oil with a plunger action so it really is nto attached to any container etc., I got mine at Northern Equip jsut a large syphone pump, made to fit on barrels really, cost form $9-22 depending on model.

Look for an equip distributor, only the cheap ones seem to be sold at auto stores.

If you change the oil often look into a Fumoto valve, I have them on several cars, work like a charm

www.fumotovalve.com

tim91306

I'm planning to install one for my 1996 3.3l V6 Plymouth Grand Voyager next week. Could you let me know what make and model year that you had them on.

Thanks.
Tim.

brorjace

So, you want to give your motor a colonoscopy, eh? Well, we have one of these for our boat which has a Mercruiser 5.0L inboard engine. It is a small, 12V electric pump (runs off the boat's battery) that has a dipstick tube and a rubber hose that dumps into a 5-gallon pail.

It works OK but you better have that oil warmed up. We had 20W50 in the boat and cold (50-60F), the pump wouldn't draw it out. And yes, I know you are not supposed to change the oil cold! >;^)

If I had a car, I wouldn't even consider using one of these slurp-a-ma-jiggers. I'd much rather remove the drain bolt. It's less work and is probably more thorough.

--- Bror Jace

wtd44

Your experience parallels mine. I thought about giving my crankcase pump (a J.C. Whitney item) to the Salvation Army, but thought better of it-- the Army, that is. I threw the pump in the trash.

armtdm

I have the valves on a 92 Camry V6, a 97 Mitsubishi 3000GT twin turbo, a 97 Isuzu Rodeo V6 and I am waiting for next oil change to place one on my 2000 Buick V6 and 96 Mercury Mystique 4 cyl

As to the fluid pump, I agree that using a drain valve or pulling the plug is easier and preferable to a pump. I use mine for pumping in gear oil and tranny fluid (Isuzu does not have a dipstick on the auto transmission and has to be pumped in, great design) Can also be used to exchange ( partial exchange ) of power steering fluid as well via the holding tank.

microrepair

After a little web searching I located a pump intended for boats that has a 4.5 liter mini-barrel and uses vacuum to suck the oil out of the crank.You create a vacuum within the barrel by using a plunger about 15 strokes. No electricity and no siphoning. The container can be carried to your local recycling center (city transfer center for me) and dumped into their oil collection barrels. The list price is about $48. Comes with 3 different diameter hoses.

No way is it more convenient or easier to crawl under a vehicle, undo the drain plug, get dirty oil on you and the garage floor, than to use a pump while you casually stand alongside the vehicle. Especially for those of us with back problems..!! And since one of my vehicles has it's filter located on top of the engine (cartridge with only a cap that gets removed) that makes an oil and filter change something I could do in a Tuxedo (if I had one!)..

I think I'm talking myself into getting one... (What was that about a "Fool and His Money"?)

armtdm

what is the site address to take a look at this thing?

microrepair

www.tempoproducts.com/pumps.html

wtd44

Just the other day, I pulled 12 oz. out of a power steering reservoir with my MVac set up for brake bleeding. the little bottle holds only 4 oz. at a time, but is easy to manage.

bobpath

With the new SL Oil available at Wal Mart for 84 cents and filters at $3, why would anybody NOT want to change their oil & filter every 3000 miles.
Assuming, of course, that you 'do it your self'- which I have been doing for over 50 years. [I'm 72] Have a good day & GO DIAMONDBACKS !!

wtd44

There's not a person alive that could fault that logic. I'm in. I agree. I do it. It negates many of the arguments for using synthetic oils, doesn't it?

easyrider300m

This is one of my posts from my forum: Mechanics: Horror Stories--- you may want to visit that forum to read about experiences with incompetent and dishonest mechanics. Here is my post concerning my experience when I brought my car in for a simple flat repair and oil change.

Once I brought my car in to have a flat fixed and have the oil and filter changed. I could have fixed the flat myself with one of those do it yourself expresso plug kits but figured why not have it done right seeing I needed an oil change anyway. So I left the car with the grease monkey and came back to pick it up at the end of the day. Charged me $12 for the flat repair and $23 for the oil change. The guy that worked on my car wrote up the bill. I paid the bill and headed home. Once home, I checked the dip stick to make sure he filled it up to the proper level. The stick had oil on it as black as coal---the oil obviously wasnt changed. I checked the tire repair and found that he had just inserted a plug like I could have done myself in 2 minutes instead of the proper inner patch. Well, I headed back and asked the grease monkey why he didnt change the oil. He stated that he must have forgot. I said to him: "Yeah, but you didnt forget to charge me!" I also mentioned the improper flat repair and demanded a full refund which I received. Needless to say, I will not be heading back to that station for any future repair or maintenance work. Some unsuspecting customer would have driven the car for another 3,000 to 7,000 miles with dirty oil and a clogged filter. Dont think that would be too good for your engine.--Motto: Buyer Beware

armtdm

If you enjoy getting messy, crawling under the car and disposing of oil (contaminating the environment) then every 3000 miles is the way to go. At that price hard to challenge and the engine will last at least 100,000 miles +. Myself, I maintain five cars in the family, so synthetics with longer drains works for me. Whatever floats your boat. Most of our cars will die from some other disease anyway besides lubrication failure or engine wear

wtd44

Is it just me, or are you posting that Grease Monkey thing in every thread you can find? PLEASE! Don't do that.

bluedevils

I've now seen that post in at least 3 or 4 topics. I read it once, and I'm glad I spent the 2 minutes to do so. However, it belongs in the Mechanic Horror Stories topic, not in all of the oil and filter-related topics.

easyrider300m

when you become a host of these boards then you can direct the posts---my post has everything to do with oil and filter topics---you dont like it?--dont read it!

Now play nice

bluedevils

I wasn't claiming to be boss. I simply gave my opinion, which was that I thought your post was off-topic. I didn't slam, I didn't insult.

The funny part about people saying, "well don't read my posts" or "if you don't like it, don't read it" is that it's not too realistic. When I log on to Edmunds, I read the new posts from the forums that interest me. I don't ignore certain posts, or certain users' posts.

I didn't know your post was off-topic until I had read through it!

easyrider300m

the subject of my post was relative--I thought it was an interesting story---I guess the mechanic thought it was ok not to change either oil OR filter--maybe he felt my oil was still OK--althought he didnt mind charging me!

just smile and live on--there's more important things going on in the world than to nitpick on an
Edmunds site-

And have a nice day!

wtd44

Let's raise the bar and move on.

seelig

already did that.