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My overall average (28k miles) is 21.8 mpg, and I usually get around 25 on tanks that are mostly (75%) highway, and 26-27 if the tank is all highway. My "around town" tanks can be 17-21 depending on the season (worse in winter b/c of the RFG and the short cold trips) and the exact driving conditions.
Not a direct comparison of course since it's a 3.0L VQ. w/222hp.
The G35 is too nice of a car to waste by "failure to negotiate a corner due to excessive speed". The speed part is what catches most peoples attention. The "failure" in the driver's car control skills really caused the problem in the first place. The best way to improve skill is training even if some of it is focused on competition. I still think that 99% of the people who leave their first track/school day leave much more aware of what it means/is to drive a car with a higher level of skill and control.
I agree that it is a shame that accident avoidance training isn't mandatory. It isn't too surprising though. People would scream about government intervention and the cost. Why would anyone spend money to be a better driver? Taking lessons to improve your golf game or skiing makes much more sense?
I guess its just like anything else in that how the individuals choose to use the knowledge and tools they aquire determines the outcome... For certain, the vast majority of people who leave the professional driving classes have probably racked up countless of "averted" accidents which would have become instantly realized had they not had a heightened sense of their own and their vehicles performance limits...
I was just regurgitating a memory of one of the driving instructors talking about how he thinks everytime a class starts, if he is training more people to be safe, or putting rolling menaces on the road... Gunshop owners might have the same thoughts from time to time.
For me, I luckily got over my boy racer days quickly, though I am embarassed to say that the G35 has brought some of the old ghosts back, now many years later... Hopefully those will pass even more quickly, and it will be more than enough to know that the car has the makings without having to prove it constantly...
Much of what happens to me when I do "push it" is evidenced by empty freeways in the morning, and lone offramps in the middle of nowhere... Not the greatest rationalization, but the car just seems to egg you on
Well, the good news is that I opted for the automatic, so I guess that must mean that I am over the hill enough to gather my senses again soon *laughing*
I really love this car
Oh, the one quote that Bob Bondurant told us that I will never forget and I think has saved my bacon at least 6 times...
"If you find yourself in a situation where you think you've lost control... PRETEND like you are still in control because more than likely you're giving up on yourself, and all that the car probably has left... It [the car] will never always know if you are totally in control, but it will ALWAYS know when you have lost control"
Faenor/Dane4
I'm getting about 17-18 miles a gallon right now and still babying the car a little. Hope that after break in the gas mileage improves, it usually does.
Power off the line still feels somewhat hesitant to me maybe it’s because I'm still babying it a little. Like people have stated here car learns your driving style so transmission might think that I want to drive slow. When I'm going 80 MPH on the highway though and I slightly gun it the power I feel is amazing. I haven't passed over 90 MPH yet though waiting till I get over a 1,000 miles on it, but you can fell that the engine is just getting started at these speeds though. This engine likes to be driven fast.
The car has it in the handling department. The car zips in and out of traffic like the 330i and the IS300, despite its slightly larger dimensions. It really hides its size well, and that is to be appreciate, the overall ride is tight, and the acceleration is excellent (though not as intially torquey as the inline six in the 3series or IS300). Nice engine overall. Nissan seems to be going with the 2 engine strategy for its Infiniti and Nissan divisons. Make two engines that are really good (the 3.5L and the 4.5L), and put them in every product to save development costs.
I think that the styling of the vehicle is classy, really pulls of a classic elegance yet sporty look, without resorting to the boy racer look. Kind of reminds me of an Audi design. If you look at the car from the side, it does look alittle disportionate, and I'm not sure what the hell was meant by that weird box on the back end that contains the Infinti symbol with the words "INFINITI" in it...it just kinda throws off the design.
The interior design is another story too. Infiniti has made such a standout vehicle...why did they give up on the interior? It's a fine looking interior...for a early 90's Stanza. Material quality slightly lower too (so is the IS300), but they needed to hit the low price somehow. Speaking of price, Infinti really has the market cornered on this one, you can really get this car nicely loaded for around $30k (watch those options though...you can easily end up in the $35 territory).
Overall, I think Infiniti did it with this product (the coupe looks even more promising), and I hope its the one that finally puts them on the map (I don't think the M45 will exactly do that).
Would I buy one? Well, no...great try, but still not a better 3-series (though I'm sure BMW is taking notice).
Also, I still don't know much about Infiniti, it doesn't seem to have the panache of BMW, Mercedes, or even Lexus for that matter. I like the fact that they are trying though. A couple more solid products like the G35, and we could have the Japanese authority in sport sedans.
I suppose it's all a matter of taste and personal opinion... My take is that the "Silly stacked headlights" won't matter much to other drivers anyway since they can't see them from behind
Wait! you might make a comment about the rear of the G35 too! *laughing* so I ought to tell you that I am the one out of a thousand that actually likes the back of the G, particularly the tail light design
Faenor/Dane4
All 15 pounds and three volumes of informational glory! all in a box that landed its corner squarely on my big toe as I was trying to negotiate my front door while holding the mail in my left hand my keys in my right and the box under my arm... Owwww!
I have this sneaking suspicion that I will probably only really look at about 3% of all the information contained in these books over the course of the cars lifespan, but hey! that 3% that I wouldn't have had, had I not gotten the manuals
Anyone have any questions about the car they want me to look up?
Faenor/Dane4
When I showed my brother my new G35, his first comment was, "Wow, nice looking! How come you didn't get that Navigation system?"
My response at the time was "Are you nuts? its another 2 grand!"
He looked at me and shook his head... "In two weeks you'll regret not getting it"
Damnit! he was right! *laughing*
Now I am in the market for a GPS nav system...
I've had my eye on the Garmin StreetPilot III, I like the idea that it is completely portable as I can then take it with me when we go places in the 4Runner...
Does anyone have experience with Garmin products, or the StreetPilot III in particular?
TIA
Dane4/Faenor
By the way, if you can find a copy of the magazine Automotive Design & Production, they have a nice article on the G35 (and the cover features a picture of the tail light)
Actually to be honest, the other driver saw me first
I returned the gesture and he sped off like a bullet! He must have gotten past his break in mileage already *laughing*
I'm actually surprised I have only seen one other G, but I'm not complaining
Good morning all!
Dane4/Faenor
Also, any comments on the sport suspension package vs. standard?
Thanks for your input.
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For comparison's sake, Motor Trend tested the 2002 Altima 3.5 SE w/ manual - 0 to 60 in 6.3 sec. and the 2002 Camry SE V6 (auto) - 0 to 60 in 8 sec. So the 5.9 sec. for the G35 is amazing!
I am Infiniti execs were fuming over the stunt that Lexus pulled on them w/ the LS430. I'm talking about the agressing gearing to nullify the power advantage while the Q45 had super conservative gearing for crusing. That killed the sales of the new Q45.
The G35 has the same agressive gearing that Lexus has w/ the LS430 so we'll see some fast times.
That means when the 6-speed manual comes out, it too better have the same agressive gearing or we won't see a big improvement (at least speedwise).
Don't ya think you would be much more comfortable in a non-silver G?
Let me know if you want more info on who I dealt with at Sewell.
By the way, the importance of the break in period is why I would NEVER buy a demo car. Can you imagine what all of us have done to those poor demo cars?!?!?! There was 5 miles on mine when I picked it - I figure no one could screw it up in five miles.
One last item. Has anyone else bought the Emerald Mist (green)? Mine is Emerald Mist with graphite interior and it's a knockout. I've had more people tell they didn't like green cars until they saw mine. I was the same way but once I saw one, I canceled the black one I had on order and got the green.
You'll have to be on the look-out though. I'm supposed to have a silver on black sports, premium, aero coming in sometime in the next month. I guess we'll see how it goes, but if I don't take it -- someone else will have one roaming the streets.
Scott
Thanks for the info. I will probably go to Sewell and Grubbs this weekend. I also plan to cross-shop a bit (CL-S w/ 6-speed, 330i, A4 3.0).
As I said a few hundred posts ago, I wouldn't be surprised if the Coupe with 6-speed gets into M3 territory! (i.e., ~ 5.0 sec.) :-)
It really depends on the weight of the coupe. If it is the same as the sedan, then I do not think it will match the M3.
And yes, I know the sedan clocks in at ~3300 pounds (but that is probably just the base cloth model, and does not have the heavy power seats, DVD, etc. that add a lot of weight). The coupe would have to be ~3100 pounds to match the M3 with 340 hp.
I am only interested in the sedan since I keep my cars for 10 years (and a future growing family), so not interested in the coupe or the GT-R - inless they offer a GT-R in the sedan version.
Having said that, I think the G35 is a performance bargan compaired to the BMW 330i. $4000 cheaper equally equiped (loaded) and 1/2 sec quicker. But its not going to touch the M3 anytime soon unless they drop a turbo on it.
3300/10.25=322
3100/10.25=302
See even if the coupe weighs 3100lbs it will need 302HP to keep up with an M3. It is projected to have 275 I think. I dont even think it will be 3100lbs. The Z350 is sposed to be 3200. I doubt it will be lighter.
Thus, if the G35 Coupe 6-speed comes in at the same weight as the sedan or lower (say 3200 lbs.), I believe it can get very, very close to the M3 in 0-60 mph IMHO.
That makes no sense. If the auto G35 Sedan hits 60 in the 5.9-6.2 second range, why would a lighter coupe with a manual and 15+ more hp only shave a few tenths off the time? Low 5's seem possible. We'll see.
I don't know when Infiniti's performance parts go on sale. I haven't seen a press release that provides a date.
Some people comment that they wish the last gear of the manual will have lower ratio in order to lower engine rev and enjoy cruising. On the other hand, this will affect G35's ability to cruise at higher speed. Personally I think 140mph should be the hard limit. To get the full horse power, we need about 6000rpm. That means 3000rpm at 70mph. I think someone said the auto now has 2300rpm at 70mph, which is kind of low. I am sure G35 with auto will be able to cruise at 130-140mph, but it may not be able to utilize the full horsepower to continue accelerating at around that speed.
Scott
"The Murano also shares the FFL platform - the name indicating "front engine, front drive" - with the Altima and 350Z coupe. The 350Z arrives this summer."
I know this is untrue, but is there any similarities between the FFL platform (I assume Altima) and the g35/350Z platform (forgot the name)?
I am so in agreement about the colors. German cars have it all over EVERYBODY when it comes to colors. Bimmers and Audis sport some of the nicest looking paint jobs around. I'd love to see a G in one of those gorgeous blue-grey, blue-green metallics that the 3 and A4 have.