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I took the vehicle into my dealer service 2 days after purchase complaining of the PTTR. Service completed the TSB work (the first time that they had to perform it on an 05 CRV), then it pulled to the left. They ordered and installed special flanged camber adjusting bolts from American Honda which allowed them to adjust back to more center, then aligned and test drove saying that it was fixed - it wasn't.
A few days later, I brought it back to service complaining that the PTTR was more severe now than it was initially. Service completed the following all of which did not resolve the problem: checking the frame measurements, installing camber adjusting bolts, cross rotating the tires, swapping tires from another vehicle, shifting the sub-frame. Finally, they test drove a new 05 CRV off their lot to check for PTTR. It did not pull so they took the front strut assemblies off of this vehicle and replaced mine with these, then adjusted the sub-frame back to the original position, completed a 4-wheel alignment, slightly adjusted camber and the PTTR was gone. In fact, the alignment is now dead on. Of course, we are still experiencing the torque steering drift to the right when we accelerate, but this is unfortunately the way these vehicles are designed to perform when the right side drive shaft is shorter than the left.
After a 3 week process, the PTTR problem is resolved on our 2005 CRV after the front strut (both left and right) assemblies were replaced. Hope this is helpful to some others that are experinecing this problem.
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The sale man told me the Honda designs their vehicles to start drifting to the right only 6 seconds after the steering wheel is let hand-free on a straight and level road.
Before I purchased the car, I check out 3 different dealers, one in North and 2 in Central of Florida. I noticed that all EXs were from England, and all LXs were from Japan. Port of entry of all those CRV was Jacksonville (FL). There was only one SE at one dealer but I didn't pay attention where it was assembled.
Before I brought it to the Service Center. I did 3 tests with it on the same straight and slightly down the hill road. First, I drove it at 40 mph with my foot on gas pedal. On second time, I drove it at 45 mph and then let my foot off the gas pedal and let it cruise until it slow down to 35 mph. The last time, from the highest point on that road at 40 mph, I shifted the gear to N (neutral; I have a AT, AWD) and let it cruise down the hill.
On the first test, PTTR problem was the worst.
On the second test, the problem was not very bad, but I don't think it's acceptable.
On the third test, it rolled down the hill straight like an arrow !?!?
As I mentioned before, the swapping front wheels seem to fix the problem, and the service man said it was "tire pull"
So, anyone have any idea.
Whoa, wonder if they will simply install your parts back onto that '05? Wonder who will get the Frankenstein CR-V?
Same thing w/ my 05 EX CR-V...
My dealer did the last TSB about strut mounts rotation
and the V still pttr.
I posted the TSB scan on the hondaSUV.com forum...
When I was at the dealer, a guy from Honda Canada
test drove my V and agreed that there is a problem but
did not know how to solve it. They realy want to help me
so they will give me more news in about a week.
I just changed the tires by the way (Michelin Hydroedge)
and I can tell you that there is no relation between the PTTR
and the tires.
I'm now working w/ Honda Canada and my dealer and will
let you know of any news... I hope that everybody understand
my post 'cause I don't really speak english.
Philippe
Thanks,
I've read that car manufactures set the speedometers a little higher as a fail safe. I've read all the postings and so far no one has this problem. Could someone shed some light on this. I will take it to a speedo shop next week to have it checked but will it be costly or hard to have it recalibrated because it is electrical?
I've read that car manufactures set the speedometers a little higher as a fail safe. I've read all the postings and so far no one has this problem. Could someone shed some light on this. I will take it to a speedo shop next week to have it checked but will it be costly or hard to have it recalibrated because it is electrical?
Neither speedos nor radars are absolutley correct, both will allow for 5-10% error. I remember my Gen 1 CR-V was about 5 mph less than GPS. I don't think the cost of adjusmnet will justify the end result. You can simply note that it is 5 mph off everytime you drive. Let this be the most of your troubles.
P.S. See if the previous owners had the valve adjustments done at 30K intervals instead of manual recommended 90K miles. Gen 1 have a nasty habit of burning valves from being too tight. The owner's manual is wrong in suggesting adjustments at 90K intervals.
Say it isn't so!
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If you're used to driving a vehicle with lots of low end torque, then your impression of a CRV will be that it's a dog.
As for power, I don't know where you got that. The 93 SAAB (I think that was the year we had) was so slow and so little power that I had the gas to the floor going up a hill to go over a local highway. My 2005 CR-V can even pass on that hill when asked too. Different cars, different times, different types of vehicles.
For me, I am extremely happy with the CR-V and it is the lowest power of any car I have owned including a 6 cyl Camry, a 6 cyl Acura Legend, a Mazda RX-7 Turbo, etc. The others were faster, but the CR-V does fine. I changed to Tripletreads and improved the ride but I do wish it were a little easier on severe bumps. Hey, what do you want for a truck? Overall I more pleased then I thought I would be for my first 4 cyl and first SUV.
Can't help you with the seats, but since you have a manual Honda, you are more in control that auto drivers. Try revving the engine closer to the red line before shifting. You will see where the power is. Almost all Honda engines make their power above 5000 RPM. Even though yours does not have VTEC, you will feel the power at or near the red line. Don't be affraid, Honda engines are designed to be revved.
As far as the outside skin being thin and the car being light, it was meant to be that way, because it is essentially a jacked up Civic. Almost all Japanese cars and newer US cars have thinner skin to save weight.
varmint, "Honda CR-V Owners: FAQ" #3, 22 Nov 2003 1:10 pm
If you hear this noise take the car to a mechanic soon. Don't let it go for 1,000 miles without getting the car seen. If you fail to replace the dual pump fluid in the rear differential, you can cause binding in the drivetrain. Binding is a bad thing. Imagine trying to twist the driveshaft into a pretzel. That's binding. It's probably what caused your problem with the front differential.
Now, Honda probably took care of you (paying 75% of the repairs) because the owner's manual gives a very optimistic service schedule for replacing the pump fluid. They say to have it done every 90K miles. That's pretty bogus. Most find that 40-50K is best (many owners do it even more regularly.).
The remote is working. After fiddling with it yesterday I got it to work but then again today no luck. The glass does flip up with the remote.
Any ideas what could be in the way and/or causing the problem? HELP?
I go out and check the trunk, shut it tight and still can't lock it.
If the switch for the door is misaligned or malfunctioning then the light would flicker and the remote wouldn't work because it thinks the door is open (because the switch thinks it's open). Have the switch checked.
JM2C
Where did your info in silicats come from?
Where did your info in silicats come from?
Where did the info on the windshield fluid come from? I don't remember posting about the windshield washer fluid. But since you asked, I use Rain X or the BJ's knock off, and I Rain-X the windshield.
If you are referring to coolant, as the title of your post woudl suggest, then yes, you SHOULD stick with Honda, especially since mine is BLUE. I would assume that all of 2005's came out with a BLUE coolant, as someone has mentioned that at the parts counter they only sell the blue antifreeze now.
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Hi everyone,
Just want to let you know that my V now Push to the front, no more
PTTR...
They did the TSB w/out result but today they mooved the subframe to be able to adjust the caster 0,5* more on the right side . The V now track perfectly straight...
Philippe.
Ok, so this is what is on my service sheet:
Moved the subframe to be able to put more caster on the right side
(1,5* left......2,0* right)
Alignment sheet:
..............(-0,8 to 0,8)..........(-0,08 to 0,08)
front left: camber: -0,1.........toe: 0,00
front right: camber: -0,0.......toe: 0,00
total front: 0,00 (-0,16 to 0,16)
..............(-1,8 to -0,3).........(0,04 to 0,16)
rear left: camber: -0,7..........toe: 0,06
rear right: camber: -0,8........toe: 0,07
total rear: 0,13 (0,08 to 0,32)
So you can see that the alignment is normal and
will not eat tires...
Philippe
Quietman
I used the included scissor jack to losen the bolt. Put the square end of the ratchet into the bolt and position it so that when you jack it it will un-screw the bolt. Do the top one first, then bottom.
Lastly, I have noticed, from day 1, a creaking noise when I go over speed bumps and am on rough road that appears to either be coming from the back door or the sunroof. I had it looked at an in my dealer's infinite wisdom, the cause was determined to be from a loose license plate bracket sliding around the cargo area.
Has antbod :confuse: y encountered either paint probs or a similiar creaky plastic sound?
My SE also has weird rough paint marks randomly across the body. I didnt notice them until after I had the car a few days, but my car had over 100 miles when I bought it. The dealer said it was for "roadtests", but I found one of his motivational tapes in the deck. Things that make you go "Hmmm...".
Could be related to the same TSB we saw a few years ago.
We haved lived with this same problem for over 2 years now. We bought the car in CO new, and the dealer there said they could not recreate the hesitation problem so they performed a software update on the Transmission Control Module (TCM.)
I left the gas cap loose on my previous fill up, and resultingly the Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) came on. I suspected the cap was the cause, but the car started running badly, as well. I decided to take it to the dealer, and used this as an opportunity to have them look at the ongoing hesitation issue.
When I dropped it at the dealer yesterday, a tech rode along and recreated the bad driving conditions (low power, miss). They had it all day, and then the service writer called a half hour before closing to tell me the gas cap was loose. We decided they should keep it another day. I am waiting to see what they come up with next.
So, has anyone had any success getting the dealer to correct the problem fussycrvowner mentioned, above. Again, my 2002 EX also has had this problem nearly since new.
Thanks.
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The squealing brakes is the sensor, your brake pads are getting thin. Have the pads changed before you hear the screech of metal grinding.
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No idea what the gas smell is.
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Is your O/D turned off? If so, that would cause higher RPMs going up inclines like you mentioned. Mine also seems to rev high even with the O/D button set. The O/D button is on the end of the shifter knob.
For those of you out there trying to convince people that torque steer should be expected in all front wheel drive vehicles, I can only say that the FWD Saturn Vue that I just leased must be broke because it drives straight as an arrow if I am coasting or if I floor the gas pedal. The only downside of owning a vehicle that drives straight is my arm muscle has decreased in size since I am not constantly tugging the steering wheel to the left to compensate for the steering wheel pulling to the right. It is a pleasure to drive a vehicle, once again, that allows the driver to be the one to decide which direction the vehicle moves. Thanks to all of you out there that have contributed to the discussion on this issue. Steve
Just curious, how do the numbers work with a lemon law buy back? Do they take it back for the same price you paid for it or do they take off since it is an 8 month old used car?
PS...You made a good choice with the Vue, my buddy has one and it's nice. And with GM employee pricing, great deals are out there.
I just bought a 05 CRV-SE and remember the salesman telling me to check the tire pressure often and that the recommended PSI is 29. The manual says the same.
Well today I bought a gauge and started to test. I thought the gauge was no good when I got readings of 40 and 45.
I drove about a mile to a mechanic and asked him the check. Sure enough, my gauge was correct. He then reduced them down to 30.
Up until this point I got a good ride and minimal road noise. I will be curious to see if that continues with the 30 psi. My mileage, mostly city, but some highway (about 100 miles between each fill-up) has been averaging around 24 mpg.