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Melissa
Melissa
I gotta sell my 2000 Evo Orange and replace it with a 6 due to the addition of a little third-seat passenger back in September. Alas, it's not great Miata-selling weather in Vermont.
Now I just have to decide between the 6i and 6s, and which transmission I want...
It seems the GS is not avaliable with side (curtain) and TCS as option, but GT is got leather inside. I wonder is there anyway I can get all those goodies without leather? (am I the only one here hate leather interior?)
The 6 looks really nice compare to accord, especially on the exterior (though I haven't seen one in person yet), now I'm seriously consider it over accord, though I wish the l4 had a bit more power... I'll probably wait sometime for the price to come down, and for Mazda to work out any bugs they might have.
As for Igotamiata, I'm still batting around ideas for my email address and license plates.
The optional parts have silver in them. In Europe you can get blue, yellow and red as well.
They are expensive, but I'm not the least bit surprised at that.
As for the leather: I'm not a fan, mainly b/c it costs $1000 or so more. You can get side airbags and curtains on the V6 GS with cloth. The GT models have leather.
Dinu
I see we got Miata and A4 people switching over to the 6. Nice to see that!
Melissa: What year is your A4 and what issues did you have with it that are making you dump it?
Dinu
Kinda neat. I like Mazda. Do all car companies do this? I don't remember Toyota doing anything like this. This is not related to the dealership survey (1-5 rating) survey.
So, anyway, make sure you tell Mazda to keep up this "soul of a sports car" mentality! When asked what I liked, I almost forgot to state the obvious, as I was talking about fold-down seats, gas mileage, and vanity lights. Based on my survey to that point, it would have sounded like I was talking about a Camry. I'd hate for the survey to reveal that us enthusiasts are more interested in creature comforts (Camry and Accord style) than performance!
Furthermore, your temperament (for car buying decisions) seems to be the same as mine so your review will be really useful when I buy my car. It was interesting reading the background of how you came to your decision, particularly the s vs i. I am fighting that philosophical battle of am I really going to need acceleration to 90? Well, probably for three weeks, then the next x years probably not. I always thought a purist is someone who takes exactly what is needed and no more, the i seems to fit the bill for me.
The kicker is that I live in Columbia, MD so the suggestions on particular auto dealers sounds like good advice; it looks like the MSRP freeze is starting to break up and better deals are to be had.
jht
Toyota and Honda already have the best car for "most people" so they don't need to ask their customers anything.
2. On the car's first anniversary I got a card from Mazda Canada saying Happy B-day! I still have it displayed
3. October 2002 a LONG survey on the car, my expectations, if I would buy other Mazda products, how much I spend in repairs/service, suggestions, etc. very nice survey which I filled out and I will drop-off in a mailbox this week. If they get it by Feb something I'm entered in a draw for a Miata.
Sometimes the dealer used to call after oil changes or any type of dealer-performed service and ask how the car is. My mom is the owner of te car and she would always tell them "I don't know", so they stopped calling.
All in all, Protege drivers are happy with their rides. I think Mazda6 ones are and will be too.
Dinu
If you can drive a 5spd, go that route with the i/GS I4.
Dinu
Now the 6 and PRO might also have different power bands.
Dinu
As a thank you, their evil masters would "box up" all of the leftovers from the Christmas feast for the servants to take home the next day. Hence it came to be known as Boxing Day.
As for the Mazda6: love it love it love it.
mean? VW uses them and Honda uses DX, LX, and XE or EX. Now we have the 6i and the 6s.
Do they really mean anything or are they too lazy to think up names?
fowler3
SE: Special Edition (yet the Canadian version of the PRO uses SE for its lowest trim level)
SX: I'll stay out of this one
LX: Luxury
EX: Extra Luxury
DX: Deluxe
ES: Extra Special?
As far as i or s go, I can only assume s is for Sport.
As for the GS in Canada, Greatly Special?
Dinu
Problems:
ignition coil, various gauge problems,
recently it started misfiring on all 4 cylinders causing the CEL to come on - I was told by Audi mechanics that this was my fault for letting the fuel level get too low (sounds like BS to me) the radio drifts to other stations randomly, bass, treble and mid range also drift, (I have had the whole radio replaced and this still happens), the windshield wiper pump has broken twice (very annoying since a light constantly flashes in the display), headlight and license plate lights have gone out. Hmmm, I think that's it. Apparently, the ignition coil-pack problem is common on Audis and VW's. They only replaced one of my coil packs; which means that it is just a matter of time B4 the other 3 go. This part is on National backorder because so many are breaking.
I have recieved the WORST customer service from Audi!!! A manager at Classic Audi told me that if I had bought a Honda, we wouldn't be talking about my car's reliability problems.
Bottom line, for $27,000, I expect to have a car that only requires regular scheduled maintenance. Is that too much to ask???
I hope the 6 will not give you trouble - it should be reliable. My PRO has been great and if I was to buy a $24.100 CAD (taxes, interest, all fees included), I would not hesitate going in and signing for an ES w/out a test drive.
Dinu
Why I like the 6??? Well, the Audi is a police target. I guess they think - " Oh, she can afford an Audi, well then she can affor to pay a huge speeding ticket". I never got pulled over in my Taurus or Probe, and I have the same driving habits!! Also, I like the idea of a sports sedan with all the "creature comforts" combined with Japanese reliability. That is one thing that the Germans lack. As nice as the German cars feel, you can't have Farfergneugen if your car is in the shop all the time!!!
Why don't you suggest the P-5????? It's only $18,000 and even comes with real leather (something the A4 only has if you buy the V-6)
Dinu
6GT V6 5 Speed manual 29,529 MSRP 31,995
metallic paint
(all colours except black) 85 MSRP 105
GFX package 695 MSRP 765
Prep/Inspection/Destinantion 840 MSRP 925
Total: 31,149 MSRP 33,790
The APA said they would broker a deal with a 1400$ mark up, being 31,149 + 1400 ($32,549) plus taxes and financing.
This is only 1200$ off MSRP (about 800 USD). This doesn't seem great.
If I use these cost figures and add the 4% markup I'd get with the X-Plan, that translates to 31,149 x 1.04 = $32,394.
Looks like either way the deals are not going to be that good. Of course, $32,394 CAd equals $US 21,380 for a fully loaded 6 cyl GT with GFX.
I guess the prices are lower in Canada but the room to move off MSRP is also reduced.
Has anyone else bought a 6 in Canada and if so, what did you pay?
I got a-plan.
$32500 + tax, GT 5 speed auto, + gfx
although I decided to Lease, I have to wait until the end of February before I get it..
Lease price is $588.00 inc Tax
Jason.
Jason.
The next thing I noticed was the handling. Even though I've read about the handling being great in this car, I was still stunned by how well this car held the road. I was taking turns at 60mph comfortably that I wouldn't take at 40mph in my pickup truck. I felt like gravity would get the best of me (and I'd be in the salesperson's lap) before the car would understeer. :-)
Acceleration was better than I was expecting. Like everyone else says, the low end torque isn't that great. It just means that when shifting, make sure you keep the engine revved pretty good and you'll be fine. Up at higher RPMs, this car really moves. Another thing that surprised me was how smooth the engine felt. When spinning at high RPMs, there was no extra vibrating and the engine didn't complain. It just kept asking for more. When going 40-50mph in city traffic, the engine is incredibly quiet in 4th gear (I never even put it into 5th). Most of the time I was in 3rd and still didn't really hear the engine enough to think about shifting to 4th.
The interior of the car felt pretty solid. Everything has it's place, and space design is pretty good. I don't see how people can complain much about back seat room. I'm not too tall (only 5'5"), but still there was plenty of room for 2 adults in the back seat. Fitting 3 adults in the back would be a little cramped, but I've never been in a car with 3 adults across the back seat without being a little tight for space. The trunk is really nice. It's much bigger without having the L-arms moving down into the trunk. I mountain bike a lot and I don't think there would be any problem for me to push down the back seats and fit my bike in there with some other gear.
Overall, this is a very nice car. It really is as good as everyone says it is, and if you like what you read online, you won't be disappointed when you see it for yourself. The dealer is going to call me when they get in some 6s MT models. He said they should get a couple in a month or two. I'm hoping to buy before this summer so that sounds about perfect.
Mike
Took it for another quick spin at the dealership(i'm buying the one I test drove, fortunately I'm the only one that test drove it from checking the odometer) This car felt better the 2nd time around. I told them to store it for me until my lease is up but the next month is gonna be very loooong! Yuppee!
By the way I'm hearing different advice from friends that I should put premium gas in it to improve performance but I don't want to if I don't have to. I also heard that putting premium when it recommends regular could actually hurt the car in the long run. What's the real story on this?
One more question, what is the advantage of the manual shifter? I don't see the difference between this and a normal shifter on other automatics where you can shift from 1st,2nd and 3rd. It seems easier but I don't see any other advantage.
The "i" and "s" designations after the number 6 simply designate the engine size. This is an internal lingo you will find on the invoice etc that tells us everything we need to know. It was not meant to be part of the name like a BMW 330i.
The real name of the car is Mazda6 but it seams everyone is shortening it to 6. The reason the Manufacture name is part of the car name is for marketing and name recognition. It is amazing how many people know what a Miata is but didn't know it was made by Mazda.
So my order sheet says MZ6s P AB6 LE1 MR1 which gives me a Mazda6 V6 Manual side air bags leather and a moonroof.
Peter: What is the total price, including taxes and interest fees? Going by MSRP alone, you saved over 3% on a brand new model, so I think you did well.
Jason: If you didn't sign anything yet, it might be a better alternative to finance it than lease it - unless you can use enough of the car to w/o and lower your taxes. I'm not too fond of leasing b/c even on an Accent you would spend about $12.000 CAD over 48 mths leasing it and after 4 years you would be w/out $12K and a ride. I would either get a used car if I had some $ saved, or finance it new. All in all, the 6 should be a blast to drive and if it makes sense for you financially to lease it, then "Welcome to the Mazda Club"!
Adam: You came very close to that 3% mark (around 2.8% if I calculated correctly). Try to get Dufferin to throw in the spoiler for free (or negotiate for a lower price) or some oil changes before you pick it up. I saw your car and it looks great!
Dinu
It seem there is no way to get GS l4 with side airbag, oh well, at least it shove a few pounds off the car.
Please let it not become one of those supped-up cars! The Toronto Protege Club has a little too many of those supped-up (not to use the street word) P5s. Why do people feel a need to ruin cars?
Dinu
Dinu
Dinu
1. Turn signal
2. Headlight
3. High beams
4. Foglight
If no foglights on the car, then the 4th is still there, but it's fake.
Dinu
One thing that did annoy me was the misleading advertizing regarding add-ons. On the websites thay offered an upgraded Bose and moonroof for $1500 as on option for the GS but I was told that the website is outdated and the only way to get that was to get the GFX package(which I don't want). It kinda pissed me off because I've heard how difficult it is to upgrade the stereo on the car yourself, and I never would put in a moonroof after the fact. So I just grabbed the car in the dealership which suited my needs and warned them not to let anyone test drive it. 46 clicks on the odometer so they know I'll be checking. Dinu, if you test drive a silver GS-V6 at Dufferin Mazda let me know.
Hate to admit it but I got roped in to getting the rustproofing with the lifetime warrenty for $499. Don't know what I was thinking but I think I got scammed. They tell me I'll never need rustproofing on the car again once I get the treatment but my buddy says it's a rip-off.