I'm gettin' a boyracer....I'm gettin' a boyracer! Nyah nyah nyah!
;-) LOL.
I think the clear taillight lenses would look good as opposed to the red ones that come with it (with the Yellow/Sport Pkg). But I wanna see what it'd look like. No one's photoshopped for me yet over in the other forum, though. :-(
Obviously.... I've made my point. I suppose Boy Racer is better than calling it Boy George. Everybody seems to have read the same article, or at least jumped on the bandwagon.
this boy racer talk out of the way (lets retire the term please), we can move on to more important topics. Such as, taillight colors!
I like the red and the clear that I've seen, but generally prefer the red more. I would prefer the clear ones for the redfire though, in order to add some color contrast.
Drove by a dealer last night and they had the redfire and sepang green out front.. both looked great, even in the non sports pkg., and the sepang really took on an interesting tint under the street lights.
In the daytime, the sepang still hasn't won me over (like it seems to have with many here lately).
Got some online quotes for loaded 6s with 5M trans. , picking from the online Mazda inventory. Most dealers here are only quoting MSRP, found 2 others only discounting $300-500 off MSRP. Carsdirect quotes MSRP. Edmunds TMV currently ~ $900 below MSRP.
I hesitate to pay that much ($1500-2000+) over invoice considering what others claim to have paid. If I'm not willing to go to Maryland (haven't ruled it out, just don't have time), how many months do you guess I might need to wait before seeing quotes for $500-800 over invoice like many people say they have gotten? I'll wait a while to save the money, but I'd prefer not to. The car really is great. Anything I'm missing here?
Many thanks to all!
PS: I had ruled out the blue for being to loud & Speed-Racer like... but the new commercial makes the blue look darker & richer/nicer. Gotta try to find a look at one in the daylight. (Any photos in case I missed it?) Was considering dark grey but the silver does look good in the sun. Hey, do they make one that's metallic grey in the winter and silver in the summer? :-)
Keep in mind that discounts are all about supply and demand.
And right now the demand for the 6s with manual transmission and the sport package is *much* higher than the supply. And given Mazda's announced production plans from April forward, I get the impression they plan to keep the 6s/manual/sport as a "hard to get" car.
$500 off MSRP is a good deal for that config, and I'd guess that will remain true till the Fall, at least.
In my experience online quotes aren't all that great. Now, if you find a dealer with the car you want and walk in there letting them know it's a done deal if they meet your price, then you can get them to talk. I bought my current car that way. Found it 200 miles away, drove over there, and told them "this is what I want to pay". They came within 100 bucks of my price and I was out of there in less than an hour with the car. But, you have to know what they can sell the car for and must be willing to walk out if they don't do it. The key is knowing what they can sell the car for. Don't buy that crap about limited supply on the V6-MT. It's all just BS to get you to pay more.
P.S. My local dealer just called. He just got a V6-MT in and he wants me to come down and drive it. I guess I'll cut out of work early today.
I thought about vanity plates, but they're pretty spendy here. I decided instead on College plates. You pay some extra but the money goes to your alma matre. My college has a red "Wildcats" mascot and they use that on the left portion of the plate, the right side is 3 letters and one number (I think). I'm hoping the red wildcat will give a bit of color to the back and front area to match with the red tail lights. Should go great with my Metalic Grey. We'll see. (if they ever get here...)
"Mazda has a few dealer installed audio options for the 6 and if you have the shop manual, it's not an issue. Stretchsje has done it without a problem(once he had the manual )"
Yes, but Stretchjse went in through the glove box to attach a cable, I meant taking the titanium trim off to install a cassette deck.
"My antenna works fine, I just like the look of the roof antenna on the euro 6."
I like the European antenna, too, but their radios are different. They use many bands, such as short wave, as well as the medium band (AM here) and FM. The diversity of languages allows people to tune in SW stations in neighboring countries.
Actually, cookie, it is NOT taken! But I hate the term "diva". I mean, the dictionary defines it as a Prima Donna, aka a "conceited and tempermental person". :-P Yech - who wants to be known as that? I wonder if all those "music divas" actually KNOW what that word means?! LOL. I laughed the other night. I saw an interview with Cher and she said the whole "diva" thing is a bunch of crap. LOL.
The proper use of the apostrophe is for possessives and contractions only, so that's out. Some people like to (incorrectly) add an apostrophe whenever they add an 's' to a word for any reason, but we won't go there. OK, if you look at other words that end in 's', they are pluralized by adding "es". Such as "backstage pass" (noun) to "backstage passes", right? So, it could be 6ses, but that's really ugly. The problem is with the ambiguous 's' on 6s. We have a similar problem when we pluralize acronyms that end in 's', but that's easily solved by capitalizing the acronym, for example RFS becomes RFSs. So, maybe 6Ss would work? Eeek! Another solution (really a work-around) is to dodge the problem by rewording the sentence, one of my favorite strategies. For example "There are a couple of 6s cars driving around Irvine ...".
I was up at Maple shade, nj and test dorve a silver 6s with 5 speed Manual. Dealer was not even talking MSRP. He wanted to deal right off the invoice price. try him out. and he has a whole lot of 5spd manuals ....
One of my local Mazda dealers has a Speed Yellow 6i without Sport Pkg. on display, with the wheel covers. They look really bad on the car in that color. The car's been sitting there for about 3 weeks now too...
If I remember correctly, there was a problem with the P5's yellow paint chipping. Was that problem resolved on the '6?
Most likely they are different paint suppliers. I think AAI uses Sherwin-Williams ( I don't think they sell to Japan) for their vehicles. I have heard that paint processes in the states are different from those in Japan as well. Perhaps somebody more familiar with paint can detail that.
if Mazda answers your questions. I had sent them 3 email s asking if they have any plans on changing thier option packages to allow you to select what you want rather then what they want.... Gee would that be nice... Here's the BIG shock Mazda never replied. For some reason I would like to buy a car that has what I want it to have... Oh well I guess I will either look at another car or just wait it out till Mazda changes thier mind.
I got this email from the internet salesman I was getting a price from a week or so ago (he quoted me about $1500 off sticker for a 6s AT loaded Sepang sport (another $500 more off that for college rebate). I thought I might be able to make a move, but again, I wait. (Let's just say I'm not getting full household support on an immediate buy). Looks like they are looking to make quotas, so if you are short term buying, I would suggest you look this weekend
"Thank you for your recent interest in the Mazda cars and trucks. Please call or email if there is anything i can do to put you in a Mazda this month. "
I noticed the same thing, I sent an email to the internet manager of the dealership near me and it was like he was tripping over himself (more than usual) to get me in there and buy a 6. They have a ton of them on the lot at least, so good selection. Oh well, I love the car but I'm not sure I'm ready to trade in my Maxima.
I am sure all dealers are tripping over themselves in these days and times to sell cars. The economy sucks right now, and new car sales aren't as good as they need to be. Dealers will give their first born to make a sale.
"There are a couple euro 6's (how do you do a plural 6 without noting a 6cyl?) driving around Irvine, CA with working radios."'
First: There are a couple EU Mazda6 driving around Irvine, CA with working radios. Doesn't matter whether they are 6i or 6s.
Second: I didn't mean it wouldn't work. Seeing the short antenna on EU versions and recalling they have SW as well as FM radios, I assumed it was short for that reason. Something to do with wave length. Their FM does work here, same frequencies.
When I returned from military duty, in Germany, in 1956, I brought a Philips portable radio with me. That was in the pre-transistor days. It had four bands of short wave, medium band, and FM.
Wanting to use it at home I took it to an electrical shop to get the AC plug changed. If you haven't been to Europe, they use 220V 50cyc and we use 110V 60cyc, the AC plugs are large.
The technician changed the plug, connected it to an AC outlet and turned it on. An announcer speaking German came on loud and clear. The techie looked at me and said, "Looks like it won't work here." LOL! I had left it on a SW station to practice my German. Changing it to MW(AM) and FM it worked fine. That was a super radio, it had a green lamp on the front for fine-tuning stations -- pinpoint of light was right on.
Yep, my dad had an old Becker tube type short wave in his 63 Benz...what a cool thing to listen to Radio Moscow in So Cal. Who knows what they were saying, but it was fun.
I still don't like the look of: There are a couple EU Mazda6...
Maybe because it isn't grammatically correct in the USA or Canada.
Would one say "There are a couple of Cadillac Seville on the streets of Detroit?"
Of course not.
I think the confusion between 4 cylinder 6's and Mazda6i (which most will think MUST be a 6) is yet another reason. Reason for what, you say?
One more reason. If they truly wanted to abandon the 626 name, they should have not used a name that makes nearly everyone remember the 626 for good or evil.
The reasons point to the fact that naming the Atenza the Mazda6 was not the smartest thing Mazda North America ever did.
Why not the Atenza?
"There are a couple of Atenzas on the street."
No confusion. No wrong reference to engine size. And no memories, good or bad, of the 626.
Why didn't they name this wonderful car the Atenza? I suspect someone thought it was too similar to Accord and Altima. Or maybe even the Nissan Stanza. I don't see it, but I bet that was the reason. Dumb one, if that is the case, but a reason, nonetheless.
Too late now. It is Mazda6 until it changes (tee hee).
Lastly, how about this?
"You know the European Mazda6? I saw two of them in Irvine the other day."
Answer: "Great, I love 6 cylinders."
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
(Oh, yeah, I could end this post on a Sirius note, but I will spare you!)
I just got an email from my Mazda dealership telling me that they wouldn't honor S-Plan pricing on a 6S with the sport package because it is "too hot." Never mind that I drive by that place all the time and there are several on the lot. Oh well, hope no one else gets caught in the same problem. Up to this point they had assured me that they fully supported S-plan.
kestrel02: As with any plan discounts, unfortunately it is totally voluntary for the dealers to honor it. If you want the 6S MT w/sprt pkg bad enough (I caved in), you'll have to pay the price. What else other sharp looking car that handles great with a lot of Zoom-Zoom for under $30K!
I can't keep up with the big number of posts....so if this has already been covered plz forgive me.
Mazda has announced that the Euro-style clear tail lights will be available from mazda dealers parts departments in a few weeks. part number 0000-8z-h15 msrp $290 plus install.
no sure if this will be a factory installed option at this point.
Well, alcjew, it's not that I like any other 2003 cars better, but losing $2500-3000 in S-plan savings is enough to make me hang on to my current car which I like a lot anyway. Either that or use my Nissan savings plan which isn't dealership-optional.
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;-) LOL.
I think the clear taillight lenses would look good as opposed to the red ones that come with it (with the Yellow/Sport Pkg). But I wanna see what it'd look like. No one's photoshopped for me yet over in the other forum, though. :-(
Obviously.... I've made my point. I suppose Boy Racer is better than calling it Boy George. Everybody seems to have read the same article, or at least jumped on the bandwagon.
I like the red and the clear that I've seen, but generally prefer the red more. I would prefer the clear ones for the redfire though, in order to add some color contrast.
Drove by a dealer last night and they had the redfire and sepang green out front.. both looked great, even in the non sports pkg., and the sepang really took on an interesting tint under the street lights.
In the daytime, the sepang still hasn't won me over (like it seems to have with many here lately).
thanks in advance.
I hesitate to pay that much ($1500-2000+) over invoice considering what others claim to have paid. If I'm not willing to go to Maryland (haven't ruled it out, just don't have time), how many months do you guess I might need to wait before seeing quotes for $500-800 over invoice like many people say they have gotten? I'll wait a while to save the money, but I'd prefer not to. The car really is great. Anything I'm missing here?
Many thanks to all!
PS: I had ruled out the blue for being to loud & Speed-Racer like... but the new commercial makes the blue look darker & richer/nicer. Gotta try to find a look at one in the daylight. (Any photos in case I missed it?) Was considering dark grey but the silver does look good in the sun. Hey, do they make one that's metallic grey in the winter and silver in the summer? :-)
And right now the demand for the 6s with manual transmission and the sport package is *much* higher than the supply. And given Mazda's announced production plans from April forward, I get the impression they plan to keep the 6s/manual/sport as a "hard to get" car.
$500 off MSRP is a good deal for that config, and I'd guess that will remain true till the Fall, at least.
(well, maybe the door rattles too, but I can't help that.)
I was just saying how nice Homelink is so you don't have to have the "stand alone" remote that gets dropped, falls off and RATTLES!
P.S. My local dealer just called. He just got a V6-MT in and he wants me to come down and drive it. I guess I'll cut out of work early today.
I'm not gonna put that on anyway...got a couple other top contenders that I have to choose between.
I decided instead on College plates. You pay some extra but the money goes to your alma matre.
My college has a red "Wildcats" mascot and they use that on the left portion of the plate, the right side is 3 letters and one number (I think).
I'm hoping the red wildcat will give a bit of color to the back and front area to match with the red tail lights. Should go great with my Metalic Grey.
We'll see. (if they ever get here...)
G1RLRCR
GRLR8CR
RCRGIRL (and other reverse derivatives)
YLWMZ6
And it's available too! :-D
issue. Stretchsje has done it without a problem(once he had the manual
Yes, but Stretchjse went in through the glove box to attach a cable, I meant taking the titanium trim off to install a cassette deck.
"My antenna works fine, I just like the look of the roof antenna on the euro 6."
I like the European antenna, too, but their radios are different. They use many bands, such as short wave, as well as the medium band (AM here) and FM. The diversity of languages allows people to tune in SW stations in neighboring countries.
fowler3
No two 6 buyers are exactly alike.
fowler3
Marla... is M6DIVA taken?
And honestly, the center stack removal is a non-issue. I think Mazda's concern is about chopping wires that feed the info display.
OK, if you look at other words that end in 's', they are pluralized by adding "es". Such as "backstage pass" (noun) to "backstage passes", right? So, it could be 6ses, but that's really ugly. The problem is with the ambiguous 's' on 6s. We have a similar problem when we pluralize acronyms that end in 's', but that's easily solved by capitalizing the acronym, for example RFS becomes RFSs. So, maybe 6Ss would work? Eeek!
Another solution (really a work-around) is to dodge the problem by rewording the sentence, one of my favorite strategies. For example "There are a couple of 6s cars driving around Irvine ...".
Obviously I have WAY too much free time ...
as far as 6s cars: they were 6i cars!
If I remember correctly, there was a problem with the P5's yellow paint chipping. Was that problem resolved on the '6?
"I saw a lapis blue 6s model..."
plural '6 = 6s
"The dealer down the street has a large selection of 6s available.."
How about that?
For some reason I would like to buy a car that has what I want it to have... Oh well I guess I will either look at another car or just wait it out till Mazda changes thier mind.
Well ok, so they're 6s, but are they 6i(s) or 6s(s)?
"Thank you for your recent interest in the Mazda cars and trucks. Please call or email if there is anything i can do to put you in a Mazda this month. "
And the word "anything" was bolded and underlined
First: There are a couple EU Mazda6 driving around Irvine, CA with working radios. Doesn't matter whether they are 6i or 6s.
Second: I didn't mean it wouldn't work. Seeing the short antenna on EU versions and recalling they have SW as well as FM radios, I assumed it was short for that reason. Something to do with wave length. Their FM does work here, same frequencies.
When I returned from military duty, in Germany, in 1956, I brought a Philips portable radio with me. That was in the pre-transistor days. It had four bands of short wave, medium band, and FM.
Wanting to use it at home I took it to an electrical shop to get the AC plug changed. If you haven't been to Europe, they use 220V 50cyc and we use 110V 60cyc, the AC plugs are large.
The technician changed the plug, connected it to an AC outlet and turned it on. An announcer speaking German came on loud and clear. The techie looked at me and said, "Looks like it won't work here." LOL!
I had left it on a SW station to practice my German. Changing it to MW(AM) and FM it worked fine. That was a super radio, it had a green lamp on the front for fine-tuning stations -- pinpoint of light was right on.
fowler3
I still don't like the look of: There are a couple EU Mazda6...
Would one say "There are a couple of Cadillac Seville on the streets of Detroit?"
Of course not.
I think the confusion between 4 cylinder 6's and Mazda6i (which most will think MUST be a 6) is yet another reason. Reason for what, you say?
One more reason. If they truly wanted to abandon the 626 name, they should have not used a name that makes nearly everyone remember the 626 for good or evil.
The reasons point to the fact that naming the Atenza the Mazda6 was not the smartest thing Mazda North America ever did.
Why not the Atenza?
"There are a couple of Atenzas on the street."
No confusion.
No wrong reference to engine size.
And no memories, good or bad, of the 626.
Why didn't they name this wonderful car the Atenza? I suspect someone thought it was too similar to Accord and Altima. Or maybe even the Nissan Stanza. I don't see it, but I bet that was the reason. Dumb one, if that is the case, but a reason, nonetheless.
Too late now. It is Mazda6 until it changes (tee hee).
Lastly, how about this?
"You know the European Mazda6? I saw two of them in Irvine the other day."
Answer: "Great, I love 6 cylinders."
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
(Oh, yeah, I could end this post on a Sirius note, but I will spare you!)
http://www.carpages.co.uk/mazda/mazda_6_17_06_02.asp
http://www.mazda.com/publicity/public/200209/0927e.html
Nah, if you were in the USA you'd have Mazda come up with:
Atenzas = 6 cyl
Atenzai = 4 cyl
Atenzaj = built in Japan
etc.
Also, Atenzem would be plural for multiple Atenza(s) since Atenzas and Atenzai are already used.
Yup. And it gets worse:
Atenzabs = includes Bose and sport package
...
http://crossroads.net/honyaku/info.php?page=nihonsha
If you want an "Atenza" badging on your 6 you can purchase it from http://www.corksport.com
Mazda has announced that the Euro-style clear tail lights will be available from mazda dealers parts departments in a few weeks. part number 0000-8z-h15 msrp $290 plus install.
no sure if this will be a factory installed option at this point.
good one! nice to see you have a sense of humor about your pet subject.