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Mazda6 Sedan

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  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Ever had a white car? If you want a car that you have to wash every day, that would be black...
  • mrblonde49mrblonde49 Member Posts: 626
    Speed Yellow 4-cyl Automatic (sorry - I'm just not a manual shifting girl). Sport Package. Premium Package. Bose Package, Leather/Comfort Package (these are all givens, as they're required in the Sport Package bundle). <<

    Not sure if this means that you DON'T want some of these options, but I believe you only need to get the premium package if you want the sport (on the 6i) - and you can get the sport package completely standalone on the 6s. It let me configure it that way for the 6i on the Mazda site, and I have seen a 6s in dealer inventory with sport as the only option
  • mrblonde49mrblonde49 Member Posts: 626
    I've had 2 white cars (and a black). They both got dirty real fast
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    Oh, no - I don't WANT the 6-cylinder. 4 is fine for me. And I DO want the Leather/Comfort and the Moonroof too. I could do without the Bose, as really great audio has never been a "must-have" for me. But if you get the Sport, then the Bose is automatically included in that. According to the website, anyway.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    I just KNEW you'd crack under the strain at some point. Mazda is saying (in Darth Vader's voice) "I have you now!!"

    Yep - that was me about the snow. You should be just fine. If you want to know S-plan, I've got an internal Ford document that'll let you calculate it if you want. Give me your email or PM me on the mazda6club site and I'll shoot it over.
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    (to ad-lib Jerry Maguire...) They had me at "ZOOM ZOOM", ruefus. ;-)

    It was just a matter of whether or not to wait another freaking YEAR for the hatchback. I'm leaning more and more towards NOT waiting.

    The person at Borgman should be getting back to me with the S-Plan price...I emailed her this morning.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    And white is all (visible) colors when talking about light and the absence of color when talking about pigment.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    "Speed Yellow, Automatic,Sport Package. Premium Package. Bose Package, Leather/Comfort Package"

    Best not look at my car then. :) V6, Speed Yellow ALL the trimmings. Yummy.

    'Course, I rode the two wheeler to work today.
  • powerman1powerman1 Member Posts: 10
    A family member is close to leasing a Honda Accord LX AUTO for $249/mo. Please Help. What would be a good lease deal for a 6i AUTO ? I saw Mazda special lease deal for $239/mo. with $1575 down + acquistion fee. Can we negotiate the downpayment amount ? This is in Nothern New Jersey. Thank you.
  • combustible1combustible1 Member Posts: 264
    mrblonde49- I saw that movie, and I don't remember the specific character, but I remember enough of the movie to give you space & BACK OFF RIGHT NOW! :P

    mazdamarla- I'll believe you've made a decision when I actually see you whining "why is my car taking so long!" if yellow sports pkg. is REALLY your choice, well, congrats. That's one beautiful combo! and it'll be a head turner.. but I'm sure you have that problem already. ;)
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    ...are safest, too.

    Are we taking bets on when MazdaMarla gets a '6?
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    No, I don't work for Sirius. Once you have had astounding choices in your car with limitless news and information and NO commercials on the music streams, you wouldn't want to do without it, either. Ford and Mazda are partners who will be offering Sirius. At this point the question is not if but when.

    I wouldn't care when if Mazda hadn't insisted on using a proprietary nonstandard radio that cannot easily be replaced, if at all...
  • aromasaromas Member Posts: 314
    combustible1: Mr Blonde is the guy who cut off the cop's ear! One of the coolest characters in movie history along with Benecio Del Toro's character in "The Usual Suspects".
  • kestrel02kestrel02 Member Posts: 26
    Went out and test drove a blue 6S with AT, and sport package today and was very impressed! Nice, quick handling, revs up easily, and very nicely put together interior. Haven't fully decided to get one, but it's a definite possibility! Now I just have to figure out the mysteries of S-Plan pricing.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    The perimeter alarm comes with the premium Package:
    8-way power seat, 16" alloys, and alarm. Know what they will do when they assemble your car? They will put a pair of 16" alloys on the front and a pair of 17's on the back. LOL! You will look like a drag racer.

    Combustible1 said, white is the combination of all colors, where as black is the absence of all color."

    Black is the combination of all colors, although, when you mix equal parts of the basic three colors (red, yellow, blue) you get a muddy dark brown. So true Black is a combination of the three minus light. To get a Jet Black add dark blue to black.

    Anybody remember the various shades of avocado green from the 60's? It wasn't green, it was a combination of yellow with a little black.

    And yellow on your monitors isn't yellow either, it's a very light green, or green with the blue removed. Think RGB, no yellow.

    White cars show black road grime more. If you live near a commercial airport or in the takeoff flight paths from one, you will get black residue from the jet engines. Black cars tend to show light dirt such as from clay and similar soils. Also true for any dark or medium color. Sand, silver, and shades like Sepang can go longer without showing dirt. They are just as dirty though. Beige trim is the same way, you don't notice the dust until it is very dusty.

    Also, clean those leather wrapped steering wheels often. You may already know how grime builds up on vinyl covered wheels from the oil in your hands. It can sink into leather making it difficult to clean.

    fowler3
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    "How come Gee35 never responded about doing the GAP. Maybe he meant that he bought a sweater???"

    I've been busy. But I did something even dumber. I got the engine in my GS300 wet while cleaning the crud off of it. I hope I haven't wrecked something. Duh.
  • purplerocpurpleroc Member Posts: 5
    What is S-Plan pricing? I'm probably going to buy a 6s M/T and want to get the best price. I've gotten the dealer down somewhere around $500 over invoice. Also, has anyone had the dealer install any options ( i.e. cassette, auto-dimming mirror, upgraded shock sensor, etc. )? I'm curious what they charged for parts and labor. The dealer is actually quoting me prices higher than if they were installed by the factory and then they want to charge me labor! I really don't want to wait 2-3 months to order one and I want to take advantage of the 3.9% financing.
  • alcjewalcjew Member Posts: 173
    vocus: No matter the color all cars get dirty, it's that the darker colors are more prominate. At least I can see what I'm cleaning and don't mind washing my 6. The steel gray and black make the 6 look more stealthier, especially with the sports pkg.

    chikoo: My 6s MT shifts smoothly the way they engineered it (dual cone synchs)with no mashing, grinding or tumbling of gears. Did you have the clutch pedal fully depressed during shifts? If what you drove was a demo with lots of miles on it, it could have been gear thrashed by test drivers and salespersons. My first test drive was a 6i MT and it shifted just as smoothly as my 6s.
  • mpiatekmpiatek Member Posts: 68
    "Black is the combination of all colors, although, when you mix equal parts of the basic three colors (red, yellow, blue) you get a muddy dark brown. So true Black is a combination of the three minus light. To get a Jet Black add dark blue to black."

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but any and all colors minus light is black (there's no color reflected without light). The reason you get a muddy dark brown when mixing red, yellow, and blue is probably because you are using paint which is an imperfect representation of color and the mixing can't be perfect either.

    "And yellow on your monitors isn't yellow either, it's a very light green, or green with the blue removed. Think RGB, no yellow."

    Correct...but when you remove all blue from green, then theoretically you have yellow, not a light green. Also, white on your monitor usually isn't true white. White of paper is closest to running your monitor at 6500K temperature. Many people have their monitors set to 9300K which gives white a little bit of a bluish tint to it. The reason monitor manufacturers do this is because the white with blue color is easier on the eyes and "looks better" for the majority of people.

    Mike
  • rphillips2rphillips2 Member Posts: 40
    Has anyone attended one of the "Rev it up" events?
    I am signed up for one in May and was wondering if it was really worth going.
  • rworrellrworrell Member Posts: 149
    purpleroc--I think 3.9% is only on the 6i, not available on the 6s.

    rphillips2--I'm signed up for the Mpls event in June and I'm also curious what it will be like. Post your review after you attend, OK? :)
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    Well, she got back to me last night and said the S-Plan (Supplier Discount) price for the car I described would be around $22,800. She said "We won't know the exact price until we have an actual invoice". Is that normal? Can the invoice price change from the time the order is placed until the time the car is delivered?? That doesn't seem right.

    Anyway, I'd then have to add back in 6% sales tax, plus a new personalized plate (I'm keeping my old car) and title, etc. etc. So my final price would probably be around $24,300-ish out the door.

    I'll be at LEAST waiting until I get my bonus in about 3 weeks, so I won't be ordering like RIGHTNOW or anything. And she said 8-12 weeks for delivery, too. :-( So I guess, really, I would only have to put down a deposit upon ordering, right? Like $500 deposit or something (I think that's what we put down when we ordered my husband's Silverado a few years ago), and then pay the balance when the car comes in like 2-3 months later? So that "order time" would give me an extra couple months to save money too.

    Hmmmm....
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    Purpleroc - S-plan is what Mazda calls their Friends & Family pricing program. Ford calls it X-plan. If you know someone that works for Ford or Mazda or perhaps a preferred supplier (Visteon, Dana, ArvinMeritor...) You may be able to get them to get you a PIN number for S-plan. If the dealer is willing, this price amounts to a no haggle AND a best price situation. My car (optioned out 6s) was literally $2,600 off MSRP.

    Marla -
    I was told the same thing when I was waiting for my car. Somebody's just covering off. You may find a car slightly different from the one you've spec'd, so the price will be different.

    Like I said - I'll send you the S-plan.doc so you can calculate any configuration you want. Mine was spot-on and I was told "we won't know until we get the invoice."
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    I'll try to figure out the PM thing on the other board.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I used the S-plan to buy my Protege back in 2001. I don't know if it's still the same, so don't quote me. The way they came to my final price was they took the invoice of the car without destination, took off 1.5%, then added the destination charge back in. I saved about $1500 this way. Like I said, I don't know if the S-plan still works that way, but it did for me back then. Good luck!
  • swift6swift6 Member Posts: 2
    Hello all,

    I've been enjoying this discussion the last few weeks and finally have a question to post. I've been having a hard time in the DC area getting what I want: a Mazda 6S in black; AT; gray leather; moonroof; and Bose.

    One dealer has this exact model, but it already has 260+ miles on it. I have been able to get him down to selling it to me at invoice. Good deal, or should I worry about all these miles and order from the factory and wait?

    Thanks for any insights.
  • silvercrownsilvercrown Member Posts: 237
    ruefus: would you please email me the S-plan document as well? My email address is listed in my profile.

    Also, how does one get the PIN for the S-Plan? Is there a toll-free number that you call to get the PIN? If so, what info do you need when you call? What else is involved in the process?

    Although my Dad retired from Ford several years ago, no one in our family has ever used the plan before. My family doesn't generally buy new vehicles and although I have bought new, I've never purchased a new Ford product. If/when I buy the Mazda6, it will be my first time. And even though I'll be working at Ford starting next week, I'll probably use my Dad's discount plan for the 6.

    TIA,
    SilverCrown
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    Go to www.fordpartner.com . There you will enter a Code that you'll have to get from whatever company you're using as the "Supplier" for the discount (or maybe you'll qualify for the "Employee" discount plan instead, which is even better). Then you fill out an online form and after it's submitted a PIN will be assigned. It's pretty easy and fast.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    It sounds as if the car you are looking at has been used as a test drive dummy. I would be wary about how the engine in the car was treated. I can almost guarantee it was revved and zoomed though, which really isn't good for a new engine. I would personally wait for something else, but that's just me...
  • silvercrownsilvercrown Member Posts: 237
    Another question: if I'm using my Dad's plan (Ford Retiree) where do I get the Supplier Code? Is there an area at Ford where I can call to get that? I imagine that shouldn't be hard to get, but I just don't know where to look for it. I may find out when I start my new job.

    The reason I'd be using my Dad's plan is that I'll be a contract employee, not a direct hire. So I won't be eligible for the Employee discount and the program offered by my contract house is not as good as the discount I could get from my Dad's program.

    Thanks again.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    I think the S-plan price is noted on the invoice. Of course, they could also look up the figure on an identically-equipped car or calculate it instead of waiting for the invoice. They're probably making sure they don't miscalculate and perturb you.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Geez, I put WAY more than that on the car just on the drive back from the dealer.
    I'd go for it.
    Otherwise you'll be waiting.

    Have them clean it up nicely for you and heck, you'll basically be sitting in a new car for a very low price.

    Although, if you are Leasing the car, then I'd have something to say about the miles.

    Zoom Zoom pal.
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    I would imagine maybe the HR department? That's who has all our supplier discount information where I work - Human Resources.
  • ambullambull Member Posts: 255
    Swift6, I think the miles are okay if the dealer goes along on all test drives and doesn't let anyone race the engine. In fact, it's fewer break-in miles that you have to be bothered with. You should be able to get that one for less than others with fewer miles.
    But if they let anyone drive the car alone, I would consider looking at another vehicle.
    I bought a "new" minivan several years ago with 7,000 miles and have had no problems with it. I have my eye on a particular 6 which I test drove a few months ago, so I may be in the same position as you in a few weeks.
  • silvercrownsilvercrown Member Posts: 237
    That's a great idea. I'll try to contact Ford's HR department and see what I can find out. I really want to have all of that information (and a good understanding of the process) before I take my test drive next month.

    Thanks!
  • mpiatekmpiatek Member Posts: 68
    I don't think there is a difference in the employee discount and the S-plan, at least for Mazda. Ford has 3 different plans depending on how close you are to the company. The A-plan is for employees and close family, the X-plan is for more distant family and friends, and the Z-plan is even a step lower than that. A-plan is usually less than invoice, X-plan is about invoice or a little over, and I believe Z-plan is more than X-plan.

    For Mazda, there is only 1 plan that is equivalent to all three of Ford's plans. It's called the S-plan, and the price is around invoice. I don't think there is a lower rate you can get on a Mazda as an employee of Mazda or Ford.

    Mike
  • mpiatekmpiatek Member Posts: 68
    It's a tough call between a new car and a car with 250 miles on it for a cheaper price. If you order the car, you can probably get it for around $500 over invoice.

    For me, it all comes down to how long you are planning to keep the car. If you are planning on keeping the car for awhile, I would order a new car. A couple of months waiting for it and paying an extra $500 isn't going to make much of a difference if you are going to keep the car for 10 years. Also, properly breaking in an engine probably only really helps as the car gets older.

    On the other hand, if you are planning on keeping this car for 5 years or less, then the $500 makes more of a difference, and you probably won't own the car long enough where a bad engine break-in will affect you. In this case, take the car with 250 miles on it.

    Mike
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Actually all colors together produces white, not black. Remember the prism - it seperates out all of the colors from natural light. Black is the absence of light and therefore color.

    Color is seen to the eye as wavelengths that are reflected from a surface. ie. a blue object absorbs all colors except blue which is reflected back. White reflects all wavelengths (all colors) and is composed of all colors, and that is why white is not hot in the sun. Black absorbs all wavelengths (so it has no color) and that is why it is hot in the sun.

    Another way to confirm this is to look at your monitor. The areas that are black have no pixels lit, and the areas that are white have them all lit. This is easier to see on a low res screen ( or a television) or if you use a magnifying glass.

    Of course none of this makes choosing a color for the 6 any easier - unless your prime concern is how hot the car gets in the sun. ; ^ )

    Mazda needs to come out with a true black that you can barely see, like Ford Prefect's stolen spaceship.
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    There are two plans for Mazda: E-plan for employees/families and S-plan for friends and suppliers. The prices are substantially different.
  • mazdamarlamazdamarla Member Posts: 350
    According to the fordpartner.com website, there is an E-plan and and S-plan. The S-plan is 5.3% over what a Mazda employee (E-plan) would pay. That would definitely make a difference!
  • psuf4ipsuf4i Member Posts: 16
    For those of you with S-Plan princing questions, this is the breakdown for my car.

    Redfire Metallic 6s:

    Auto Tranny
    Moonroof
    Sport Package
    Comfort Pakage
    Bose
    Side Airbags
    Leather
    wheel locks

    MSRP $26,275
    S-Plan Price $23,755 ($2,520 savings)
    PA Sales Tax (6%) $1,425
    Total Price $25,220
    Minus $500 college grad rebate
    I paid $24,720
  • psuf4ipsuf4i Member Posts: 16
    I think I promised some of you pictures of my car with the sport grille.

    Here you go

    http://members.cardomain.com/psuf4i
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Nice lookin car.
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    the pictures dont even do half the justice it deserves.
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    different from the 6i to the 6s by 0.2" ?
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    S-plan:

    From the Ford employee that got me the deal, S-plan is the best a Ford employee can currently do and is Mazda's "friends & family" price. E-plan is only available to Mazda employees.
  • mpiatekmpiatek Member Posts: 68
    Ahh, thanks for correcting me. I was unaware of the E-plan. Sounds like a great deal.

    Mike
  • kestrel02kestrel02 Member Posts: 26
    How hard is it to install that sport grille? It looks great! Is it something you do yourself, or at the dealer?
  • ramped1ramped1 Member Posts: 159
    Just ran across your original post. Buy the 6s and don't even worry about it. 260 miles is nothing over the life of your car. I bought my '92 Maxima 10 years ago this week as a new car even though it sat on the ground for over a year due to port paint damage. Had over 300 miles on it then, and it has been great.

    Also bought an Eclipse Turbo a couple years before that with about 100 miles on it, and not a problem with it, either.

    You're getting a great deal. Enjoy!

    To John C: I'm a little mystified why you would delay the purchase of a great car like the 6 mainly because you're waiting for Sirius. If you have a good CD collection and a primo sound system, who needs subscription radio anyway, even if you're driving cross country? Just wondering.
  • barrysobarryso Member Posts: 66
    I had the chance to do a 20+ miles in a 6i and a 6s last night. It was my first chance to drive both engines (with stick) back to back on some highway at speed.

    6i was a base model. The 6s had everything but auto transmission (leather, moonroof, bose, sport package, etc.).

    The 6i was very good and was a more than willing dance partner when the engine was over 3000 rpm. At $19,000 it is one nice ride.

    The 6s surprised me. Yes, it had more low end grunt and with the 17" tires it was a great dance partner. But it seemed to have less road noise cruising at speed than the 4i.

    I compared the sport/non-sport package a while ago and was left with a definite impression the 17" tires were noisier than the 16's. Last night it was the opposite. Is there more soundproofing in the 6s vs. the 6i or is this a difference in the tires?

    Or am I just imagining this whole thing to justify spending another 6 grand?
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