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Your opinion. IMO, the Mazda6's interior is nicer than the Accord's.
"i used to believe that Accords were vanilla"
Compared to the 6, they ARE vanilla. I remember your rants in the Jetta forum trashing Hondas and dismissing every Japanese car as an appliance, but now that you own one, they're not vanilla anymore???
if i couldn't have afforded the Accord, i totally would have been happy with the 6s in Sepang Green with beige leather. but as mental as i am about my cars, i would be bothered by the painted silver material on the console the fact that, if you grab the round HVAC vent, and pull on it, it pops out. i like my vents to stay put
(sarcasm on)
Very logical to say the least!
(sarcasm off)
Dinu
Ah that sounds nice, but then you go for an attack on my car?
you drive a BMW! talk about mindless zombies looking for cars with a "name" and an image - 3 series sedans fly off the lots and end up at Carmax six months later because the BMW name isn't worth the BMW experience (headache)...
I agree. Most people buy 325s...a car that's really not worth the cost. I didn't buy a 325i because for the extra coin I wasn't getting that much more in performance. Better handling but the anemic 2.5 liter inline 6 wasn't for me. I felt the Mazda6 and Acura TSX were almost as good for far less cash.
As for my personal car, Justin, you haven't driven a 330i with the performance package. Until you do, you haven't a clue what that car can do.
lets hold off on calling Honda owners vapid.
I stand by my assertion that the sequacious masses flock to the Camcord based on reputation and a desire to own a reliable appliance. I've driven the Accord coupe V6 with both the manual and AT and the sedan V6. While they accelerate nicely, their handling can only be described as sloppy. Pull out all the quotes you want from authorities...you can't flog an Accord through the twisties the way you can a TSX or Mazda6.
when Mazda offers interiors that have a quality feel, they will sell more cars.
Interior? Bah, if it's got a steering wheel, AC and manual, it's all good.
Most of know what happens when we start talking about it - let's don't go there this time.
Thanks.
As for Mazda struggling financially they are in the black currently due to good sales in Europe and Japan.
As for Mazda buying awards have Honda and Toyota been buying awards for the last 10 years? I mean the Accord and Camry always ranks well in tests in different magazines. Just because Mazda makes a good sedan that gets good reviews doesn't mean they are paying magazine publications.
The Accord has won its share of comparo's. As for company's struggling Mazda is struggling because of something that happened 10 years ago(ford Tranny.) What about Toyota and sludge? I don't see their sales slipping. Wait its a Toyota so its ok if it has sludging.
Well then we need to keep the jealous Accord owners out of here.
Any other discussion management comments may be emailed to me, not posted.
Thanks.
Industry publications/journals, auto groups, and local pubs. We're not talking about mainstream press (which likes the Mazda6). This isn't about shlocky mainstream magazines like Automobile or Car and Driver. We're talking small fries that don't interest big players.
Do you understand the difference? Pay for a year of advertising (thousands of dollars and drop in the bucket for advertising) with a CRM journal and suddenly you're named "Best CRM Software Package of 2003." That's how industries work and that's what bit players do to get recognized. If you don't have an established brand (take a bow Infiniti and Mazda), you gotta jump through some hoops to get noticed...
For the record, I like the Mazda6 - quite a bit. I considered it (passed on it as I found the manual notchy and the V6's response too subdued) but I continue to lead friends and family to that car. A friend of mine, who was intent on an A4 is now aiming squarely at a 6 for her next car. My bro-in-law, under pressure from me, has agreed to try it out for his next vehicle.
i just don't think any car will ever do that again. but hoping for the best.
For the truly demanding and discerning among is - there is no substitute for owning one!
you are supposed to drive the car using the steering wheel, not the HVAC vents.
And how many more weeks do we have to wait for them to update their Web site to showcase the 2004 model, since that's what dealers have and are selling? Seems like their marketing/sales is a bit uncoordinated.
Yeah, we have sort of noticed that over the last year or so. We figure they are farming their marketing work out to the lowest bidder in West Borneo or somewhere like that.
(no offense to any readers who actually live in West Borneo)
it would simply inch more towards the "entry-lux" segment, which is not the intended segment for this car in the USA. Rest of the world, it is a diff matter.
Okay, sounds sorta dorky, but it was a cool commercial and had a lot of "attitude"... WHYWHYWHY couldn't Mazda spend a few dollars on a decent M6 commercial?
sigh...
Really? I didn't know that, cool. Finally an automaker makes it possible to clean the inside of the HVAC vents without a can of air and Q-tips. Nice.
HELP....if anyone out there can enhance a .bmp picture for me it would be great. We got robbed of some tires/chrome wheels over the weekend and I have digital shot taken of the back of the crooks car (lic plate) as he drove out of the dealership...but I can't make the picture clear enough to make out the tag number (cheap cam 320x240). if anyone in edmunds-land could help me I would owe you a big favor!! please email me asap. my email is on my profile.
it would simply inch more towards the "entry-lux" segment, which is not the intended segment for this car in the USA. Rest of the world, it is a diff matter.<<
See, I don't buy that. The Altima has available HID, and it's nowhere near entry-lux. Oh, and if this really bugs you, guess what?? The new Mazda3 (redesigned Protege) will have HID as an option. So how do you like them apples??
Read any review, it's full of misleading information, for example, "There is a lot of suspension, tire, and road noise...". That scares buyers off because they think the "noise" is happening at 45mph in Sunday traffic -- not at the high rpms and speeds the testers are driving.
All this high performance stuff is anethma to the average buyer. I had a lady friend brag to me about her new van having special "alloy" wheels, "Not the cheap steel wheels on your car." Then she said she was going to replace the "ugly wheel covers" that came on her van. I pointed out to her those ugly wheel covers WERE the special alloys she was so proud of. And a good example of what I am saying here. They don't know and they don't want to know the specs, they want a reliable car and good fuel economy.
Awards don't mean diddley either. Advertising agencies have local clubs they belong to, they give annual awards to each other...so they can advertise they are "award winning agencies". The "Best Sellers List" for book publishers is famous, but what isn't known is that to be listed at the TOP for XX-number of weeks costs publishers big money.
There is money under the table involved in every thing in our lives, from the prescription you had filled at the drug store (your doctor got a kick-back), to the big soft drink companies buying up all the shelf space in supermarkets so small bottlers can't get in.
To get this back on topic, about leather seats: in most cars the "leather" is only the inserts on the seat cushion and backrest; the side bolsters and backs of the seats are matching vinyl. If you want 100% leather they will cost a lot more than $800.
I had a 1968 Buick Riviera which had vinyl bolsters with cloth seat and backrest inserts. They were very comfortable seats on long trips. Less sweaty than leather or all-vinyl. I would suggest going that route, later, for those replacing cloth upholstery. The Riv's seats were black and it didn't have AC, it was HOT in the summer!
fowler3
Personalize your car in a different way that can be changed back with little or no cost before trading it. Install options, such as MP3 players, that can be transferred to your next car.
I was reading in a financial magazine that buyers of luxury cars are beginning to balk at all the techno-crap manufacturers are installing on the big cars. Stuff they won't pay for because they have no use for it. You are not alone.
By the way, the Riviera mentioned in the previous post, had a console and center stack made of brushed metal very similar to the Mazda6's. The tape deck in it was an 8-track, the tapes were as large as today's video cassettes. Not much is really new, just revisited from time to time by the stylists.
fowler3
So you left money on the table?
I'm wondering how many total Mazda6 vehicle were produced - both i and s models combined. And then out of those, how many were Speed Yellow? Is there a source for that? Do you have access to it?
The altima even with HID is a car with a cheap interior. Nobody in his right mind will buy that as a entry lux.
But the MZ6 does get close with its excellent dash quality. The style is controversial to some, but the competition is coying that too. eg Toyota Solara.
As far the as 3 is concerned, it is cheaper and in a smaller class. How can it compete with the entry lux?
Also, is Mazda still planning to introduce the hatch version in the United States? Will stability control and navigation system be added as available options?
Can I say that here?
please say it isn't so! can anyone validate this? I'd love to have one in a 4 cyl/MT - the perfect SUV killer in terms of gas mileage, versatility, and handling. I guess I'll just have to cross my fingers.
Which will make me glad I didn't wait and bought a 4 cylinder 5-speed 6 already (I call it the 456), but would suck for those with more patience than me, who've waited for the hatch and wagon (already delayed too much from a logical and marketing standpoint).
Wither, Mazda intelligence?
A highly desirable variant of the 456. Hopefully Mazda USA doesn't shoot itself in the foot AGAIN by not making it available.
Oh - the corrssponding Wagon (4 cylinder, 5 speed, Mazda 6) can be designated the 45[5]6 for the more boxy 5th door.
Some of these places can barely do the standard filter change without problems, so I am curious.
No because I do it myself. If you're not going to do it yourself, I'd bring it to the dealer. The quicky lubes probably don't have the filter anyway for the 4cyl.