Mazda6 Sedan

vocus

The old warranty included a loaner car as well, when your car was in the shop overnight.

chikoo

Thank you for contacting Mazda North American Operations. I appreciate

the opportunity to respond to you.

At this time, the Mazda6 combinations listed on the website are

correct. However, please understand consumer feedback is very

important to Mazda. I will definitely document your concerns for the

corporate record. These records are continuously reviewed by the

Product Planning department in an effort to provide only the highest

quality products to our customers. If I receive any updated information

regarding the Mazda6 combinations in the near future, I will e-mail you

with that information.

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"It does everything well and makes no apologies for being a true

enthusiast's car." - Sport Compact Car

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I wanted to confirm whether the following options/ packages publication

is

correct or not:

(source: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021104/lam097_1.html)

Mazda North American Operations

     2003 MAZDA6

     4-DOOR SEDAN

SUGGESTED

                                                                  RETAIL

     TRIM PRICE

*

     i WITH 5-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION $

18,530

     s WITH 5-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION

21,100

     EQUIPMENT PACKAGES

     CODE PACKAGE AVAILABILITY

     3RA BOSE Audio Package (1) ALL $

635

     1CO Comfort Package (2) ALL (Requires LSI)

220

     214 Premium Package (3) i

800

     1SE Sport Package (4) ALL (i Requires 214)

860

     OPTIONS

     CODE OPTION AVAILABILITY

     AT1 4-speed Sport AT i $

850

     AT2 5-speed Sport AT s

900

     AB4 ADS & Traction i

400

               Control (TCS)

     SSU Alarm Shock ALL (i Requires 214)

60

               Sensor Upgrade

     FLA All-Weather Floor ALL

60

               Mats

     FLD Aluminum Fuel-Filler ALL (Not available

100

               Door (Bright Chrome) with FDS)

     FDS Aluminum Fuel-Filler ALL (Not available

100

               Door (Pearl Satin) with FLD)

     CGN Cargo Net

40

     CTO Cargo Tray and Organizer ALL (includes CGT)

150

     CGT Cargo Tray ALL

50

     CAS Cassette Player ALL

200

     CAP Chrome Appearance ALL

325

               Package (5)

     MRC Compass/AutoDim Mirror ALL (Not available

150

                                         with MRH)

     MRH Compass/AutoDim Mirror ALL (Not available

250

               with Homelink with MRC)

     CDC In-Dash 6-Disc ALL (Not available

500

               CD Changer with 3RA)

     LS1 Leather Seat ALL

860

               Upholstery

     MR1 Power Moonroof ALL

700

     MGU Rear Mud Guards ALL (Not available

35

                                         with 1SE)

     AB6 Side Air Bags & Side ALL

450

               Air Curtains

     CE1 ULEV Emissions ALL

100

               Equipment (California/

               Northeast States**)

     WLK Wheel Locks ALL (i Requires 214

30

                                         or 214 & 1SE)

     (1) BOSE Audio Package: 200-watt sound system with 4 full-range

         door-mounted speakers, 2 tweeters, amplified subwoofer and

in-dash

         6-disc CD changer.

     (2) Comfort Package: Heated front seats and heated door mirrors.

     (3) Premium Package: 16-inch alloy wheels, 8-way power driver's

seat

         with lumbar support (manually adjustable), and perimeter

anti-theft

         alarm.

     (4) Sport Package: 17-inch alloy wheels with P215/50 R17 all-season

         tires, oval type dual exhaust outlets, fog lights (headlight

         integrated), sport type front & rear bumpers, side sill

extensions,

         rear spoiler, black interior trim (cloth or optional leather),

and

         electroluminescent gauges with red illumination.

     (5) Chrome Appearance Package: Chrome rear finisher and side

protector

       &n
Thank you for contacting Mazda North American Operations. I appreciate

the opportunity to respond to you.

At this time, the Mazda6 combinations listed on the website are

correct. However, please understand consumer feedback is very

important to Mazda. I will definitely document your concerns for the

corporate record. These records are continuously reviewed by the

Product Planning department in an effort to provide only the highest

quality products to our customers. If I receive any updated information

regarding the Mazda6 combinations in the near future, I will e-mail you

with that information.

Again, thank you for contacting Mazda. It has been my pleasure to

assist you. If for any reason this response has not completely

satisfied you, please feel free to reply to this message. You may also

contact our Customer Assistance Center toll-free at 1-800-222-5500.

Please take a moment of your time to give us your opinion about our

e-mail service. Click the link below to complete a brief, online

survey.

http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?5TYD85TYCGRDSLWVFE7RJ6R9

Regards,

Jennifer Gray

Specialist, Customer Assistance E-Business

"It does everything well and makes no apologies for being a true

enthusiast's car." - Sport Compact Car

Original Message Follows:

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I wanted to confirm whether the following options/ packages publication

is

correct or not:

(source: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021104/lam097_1.html)

Mazda North American Operations

     2003 MAZDA6

     4-DOOR SEDAN

SUGGESTED

                                                                  RETAIL

     TRIM PRICE

*

     i WITH 5-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION $

18,530

     s WITH 5-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION

21,100

     EQUIPMENT PACKAGES

     CODE PACKAGE AVAILABILITY

     3RA BOSE Audio Package (1) ALL $

635

     1CO Comfort Package (2) ALL (Requires LSI)

220

     214 Premium Package (3) i

800

     1SE Sport Package (4) ALL (i Requires 214)

860

     OPTIONS

     CODE OPTION AVAILABILITY

     AT1 4-speed Sport AT i $

850

     AT2 5-speed Sport AT s

900

     AB4 ADS & Traction i

400

               Control (TCS)

     SSU Alarm Shock ALL (i Requires 214)

60

            &bsp; moldings.

     * Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, including Dealer

Preparation

         and Check Up required by Manufacturer. Vehicle M.S.R.P. does

not

         include Destination Charge $520.00 (Alaska $680.00), State and

Local

         Taxes or Fees or any other charges.

      ** Northeast States are Maine, Massachusetts, New York and

Vermont.

the_big_h

but $18530 for the base 6? pretty competitive pricing I'd say

mazda6s

"It does everything well and makes no apologies for being a true enthusiast's car." - Sport Compact Car

Hmmm, a real enthusiasts car would have the latest safety features as standard equipment like the other "enthusiast's cars" that Mazda claims to have benchmarked for the 6, and not require the purchase of thousands of dollars of luxury options to get them. And before you say that most people don't want to pay for these safety features, keep in mind that it would not add that much, as ABS is normally about $400-500 MSRP and SAB usually runs about $250-300 MSRP, and the actual cost increase for the car would actually be much less. But of course then you couldn't price it like an Accord LX, which Mazda claims they are NOT competing with. Seems like Mazda is a little undecided on what they really want to do.

ickes_mobile

If Mazda's not compteting with the Accord LX (or the Taurus, Camry et al) why do they provide side-by-side comparisons of these cars with the Mazda6 on their website?

mazda6s

Good point. Some of the best ideas in the world have gone bad due to indecisiveness, or flawed execution.

wgr

The press release re pricing and options shows different combinations (ie less forcing customers into taking packages) being available than is shown on the MazdaUSA site. Which is right ? As of now, I am assuming the MaxdaUSA site is.

chikoo

Thank you for contacting Mazda North American Operations. I appreciate

the opportunity to respond to you.

At this time, the Mazda6 combinations listed on the website are

correct. However, please understand consumer feedback is very

important to Mazda. I will definitely document your concerns for the

corporate record. These records are continuously reviewed by the

Product Planning department in an effort to provide only the highest

quality products to our customers. If I receive any updated information

regarding the Mazda6 combinations in the near future, I will e-mail you

with that information.

Again, thank you for contacting Mazda. It has been my pleasure to

assist you. If for any reason this response has not completely

satisfied you, please feel free to reply to this message. You may also

contact our Customer Assistance Center toll-free at 1-800-222-5500.

Please take a moment of your time to give us your opinion about our

e-mail service. Click the link below to complete a brief, online

survey.

http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?5TYD85TYCGRDSLWVFE7RJ6R9

Regards,

Jennifer Gray

Specialist, Customer Assistance E-Business

"It does everything well and makes no apologies for being a true

enthusiast's car." - Sport Compact Car

Original Message Follows:

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I wanted to confirm whether the following options/ packages publication

is

correct or not:

(source: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021104/lam097_1.html)

cb70

Oh how the mighty have fallen. To stay on topic for the hosts, I like the Mazda.

bean3422

First... the web site is probably wrong. When I was waiting for the 2002 MPV information to come out, and when the web site first came out with information, it was a bit disappointed, but many things had changed in the 3 or 4 months until I actually purchased one. The web site is designed by a web programmer... in any big company sometimes the communication channels get mixed up.

Second... all of these email responses or phone responses are probably temporary "monkeys" who don't have a clue. Once again, in a multinational company like Mazda, misinformation gets spread around like a virus. Maybe it is not very professional, but it is just the way it is. (Like the bureaucracy in the government, but that is another topic!!)

Of course, I don't know why I am surprised. This is the same group that flew off the handle with Mazda 6 defenses and accolades before any reasonable tests or even very much information was available. Now, the first hint of package information has come out, and we are flying off the handle again.

PLEASE... just wait until the cars are at the dealers, until you can read the option packages on the sticker, until you have the official Mazda 6 book in your hand and read the packages listed in the back. (Even then, sometimes they change.)

This is the problem with the WWW...easy come easy go. Wait until you see the sticker yourself, then get upset when you really, really, can't get ABS as a stand alone option.

You may be surprized.

mazda6s

I interpret their response to mean that they think the Mazda web site is correct, not the Yahoo publication. No?

jampedro

In Honduras, Japanese made, 2.0 AT, leather, moonroof, spoiler. Driving for a week. I'm not a real car enthusiast and can only compare to my 98 US model Camry. Some observations:

1. Handling - much tighter feel steering and less lean on turns. Fun to drive.

2. Wheelbase - seems to have less range far left and right. May be my illusion.

3. Suspension - much harder than slushy Camry. Feels the road.

4. Power - 2.0 too small for this car, but that's all that's available here from Japan. Feels unsafe passing on 2 lane roads. 2.3 NA version shouldn't have this problem.

5. Tranny - smoother shifting. From 3rd to 4th I have to check tacometer to notice.

6. Styling - What can I say, beautiful. I like the clear glass external light covers front and back.

7. Interior - much nicer looking. Leather seats a little hard. More legroom in front.

8. New (for me) Features I Like - Bottle holder in front door bins. Eye bolt for towing that screws to front frame after opening cap in front bumper. Power driver seat with manual lumbar pump. Extra storage bin in center dash. Upper/lower storage bins in center console. Audio and cruise controls on steering wheel. Separate high and low beam headlights. Courtesy lights on doors. Cables in trunk to drop rear seat backs.

9. Features I Miss - No trunk release from interior. No aux. power port in this version.

Speaking of which, I'd like to add a power port. I've read here the NA version has one on or in the center console. Does anyone have a pic or can describe exactly where it's located? I can't find any plugged hole where it might go.

qddave

Since I'm not a regular poster on this forum, take this for what it's worth. I work in the auto industry, and it was posted a while back that Mazda was probably just flooding the market with vehicles that were similar to give the suppliers a chance to catch up. That post was almost dead on. I work for a tier one supplier to Daimler Chrysler, and when the Liberty was launched into production, I was at Toledo where they are assembled. What did I see, Liberty's, made in only 4 of the 10 or so advertised colors. I asked one of the workers, "Why only 4 of the colors?" He replied that they make most of the inital production vehicles a certain way so that the suppliers can get accustomed to the varying demands of the assembly plant. As an example, you are the supplier for the moonroof, well, DCX will send you an 4-8 week requirement for how many moonroofs you need to supply. That way, the supplier can both level his inventory and get his assembly line in order. I made a trip to Toledo about 4 months after launch, and all colors were being made with all options. So, I would say to those who question Mazda's marketing people, just give it time. The yahoo.com article seems like Mazda's real plan. They know better than to shoot themselves in the foot. They've been making automobiles for a long time, and some of them even succeeded. (ie. Protege, Pro5, Miata, and yes, the 6 will succeed)

maltb

...probably temporary "monkeys" who don't have a clue.

Be nice bean. They aren't temps and some are actually quite knowledgeable. However, imagine having to respond to hundreds a day, half of which have trouble collecting their thoughts. There are always two sides...

ashutoshsm

Congratulations!

Thanks for the quick and concise review - please post some pictures as well!

dudleyr

After looking over the Yahoo article and the Mazda web page, they appear to now be the same. The only difference is that the Yahoo article does not mention that there are other options or packages tied in to the options at the bottom. The Mazda site does not mention this either, but you find out when you click on the option.

For example when you build your own and click on the $400 ABS/TRAC to add it to your vehicle a pop up tells you that you need to add $4900 worth of options to get ABS. The Yahoo article does not have pop ups.

This leads me to believe that the Mazda site is the correct one (even though they both list the same options at the same prices)

Hopefully Mazda will loosen up and correct this as many people have already mentioned.

mazdafun

I've actually had very good experiences the times I've either spoken with or e-mailed them. Even if they don't know, they willingly investigate and come back to me with a response.

damax07

I thought it would be nice to post this link to a match-up between the Mazda6, the Honda Accord and the Mitsubishi Galant on the Montreal based newspaper LaPresse. Unfortunately, the article is in French. Perhaps once I have finish reading it, I will translate the conclusion.

Damax07

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/reseau/automobile/0211/aut_102110154231.html

ashutoshsm

Use the 'Languages' link on google.com or the feature at babelfish.altavista.com to translate the link.

EDIT: Odd, for some reason, both services fail to translate the second half of the article!

ashutoshsm

... doesn't mince words. If the Accord (Agreement) is cnosidered ugly, but the writer softens it up, the subtlety is lost on the software - and it'll call a stick a stick

ashutoshsm

BTW, watch out - the hosts have been iron-fisted lately, and one of my posts pointing out the humour in a French-English translation at google was deleted as being 'offensive to the sensibilities of a certain nationality'. Cut me some slack, really!

chikoo

the yahoo options packaging specifies the dependency, if any, to any other option.

I think Dave is correct. Give Mazda 4-6 months. Then one will have everything as desired (ala Yahoo website)

csuftitans

does anyone know the email address of Mark Fields; maybe if we spam him enough, he'll take notice.

stretchsje

I can't tell with the translation, are they saying the Mazda is two tenth's of a second faster or slower than the "Agreement"?

bluong1

newcar31

"Obviously inspired by certain European creations"

dinu01

Using my knowledge of French, here it goes. I did focus on the 6.

The reviewers noticed:

Mazda 6:

*Sporty styling
*Firm/NOT cushy ride
*Firm, but comfy seats that be well-adjusted
*Were surprised to find out that Ford gave Mazda engineers a free-hand in designing this car, not forcing it to use the dreaded Ford parts bin (and the "quality" associated w/it)
*HVAC system is too low; requires to look down and not see the road
*0-60mph/0-100km/h: The 4cyl Accord was only 2 tenths of a second faster than the 2.3L 6!!! So much for what we heard before.
*Most sporty and most fun to drive of the bunch. The car asks to be driven. Good to hear that!
*Standard ABS and traction ctrl.

Galant:

Is better suited to be compared to the Sonata and Malibu (read a class below). The Galant will only be chosen by the budget-conscious people. It seemed to imply it's not as refined as the Accord/6. They also called for a revised suspension. But it is cheaper.

Accord: The most "welcoming", high-quality, well-made interior. They LOVED it! It's also available right now. Lacks originality and agressiveness in styling. Really? So I wasn't the only one dreaming of Buicks then after looking at the new Accord. Good! As far as the driving dynamics go, the Accord is the best at taking care of its passengers.

So the 6 is a larger 2001+ PRO ES. Great to hear that!

Zoom-Zoom? You bet!

Dinu

dinu01

did bring the same kick-@$$ driving machine here in NA. For once it seems we got the good stuff they get in Europe.

Dinu

a_l_hubcaps

A request for the Mazda 6 fans:

I am trying to put together a list of all the 2003 model-year wheel covers and wheels, with photos if possible. I'm in the business, and I do this every year and distribute it to other hubcap dealers. I've seen plenty of photos of the Mazda 6 alloy wheels, but none of the US market (16") wheel covers. If any of you can produce a photo, it would help me out if you could post it here, or email it to me A_L_Hubcaps@yahoo.com. Thanks in advance for any help.

-Andrew L

maltb

Well, if you had it you'd be sending an e-mail to the president of the Premier Auto Group in the UK. The current chief in Japan is Lewis Booth.

jampedro

Not sure if you can see this pic. If you can, I'll post more. If not, how do I post. I have no website for a URL.

dinu01

html-planet.com

or yahoo and create a group wher you can post pics.

Dinu

pat

No, that's not going to work -- you are trying to display a picture from your own PC which will work for you, but not the rest of us.

Here is a message that will tell you how to post pictures: KarenS "Mazda Protege Owners: Photo Gallery" Feb 19, 2001 7:54am.

You'll also find some assistance in the Town Hall Help file linked on the left side of this page.

jampedro

OK, I created a yahoo group.

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mazdayyy6/lst?&.dir=/&.src=gr&.view=t&.last=1

csuftitans

He got demoted? Man, I actually liked him as the CEO, eventhough his japanese sounds kinda funny in the intro of the 6 last year. :-).

wgr

"Document not found"

preston_wong

windowphobe6 (or anyone else),

Anyone know which automatic transmissions will be used on the I4 and V6 Mazda6? I think I heard Jatco for the V6 and NOT the Ford I4 from the 626, but anyone know additional details?

Coming from a 626 I'm obviously interested in what they're going to put in the 6.

a_l_hubcaps

wgr-

I figured it out. Go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mazdayyy6

and join it. Then you can see the pics.

-Andrew L

the_big_h

http://forum.protegemp3.com/vbb222/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9264

mazda6s

This discussion is fizzling out.

stretchsje

http://www.australiasbestcars.com/2002/mid_over.htm

wgr

This Aussie site calls the Mazda6 the best car under $25,000 (Aus). With the current exchange rate, this converts to under $14,000 (US). How can this be ?

dudleyr

When I read it, it said over $25,000. ; ^ )

chikoo

juat check out this latest pix hot from my firend in Hungary (thanks Robert)

http://www.goonish.com/atenza/read.php?TID=538

http://www.goonish.com/atenza/read.php?TID=539

wgr

You're right. It is OVER $25,000.

auerbach

is reading the December issue of Car & Driver and reading their full road test of a 6s?

vocus

They road tested the 6? COOL! I can't wait to get my issue in the mail now..

newcar31

I've been waiting to see what those guys (C&D) had to say about the Mazda6.

ickes_mobile

My guess is (for either I-4 or V-6 engines)

1. Mazda6
2. Accord
3. Altima

Given the recent small sedan comparo, a Hyundai may crack the Top 5. GM, Ford and DC will be nowhere to be found...

wgr

I have not gotten my C & D yet. Can you summarize what it says ?