Toyota Tundra 2000

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  • 3peasinapod3peasinapod Member Posts: 26
    Since you work at the Tundra plant in Indiana, whats the story on this wheel vibration. Has it been cured? Is it on 2wd. and 4wd. models? Any other problems we should now about??????????????
  • framehogframehog Member Posts: 8
    I am sorry, but I am not familiar with the wheel vibration problem that you spoke of. None of the Tundras that I have driven have had that problem. There was a wind noise from the rear leaf springs, but they have been modified and that is no longer an issue.
  • kimexpokimexpo Member Posts: 17
    Is it about time for Toyota to officially respond to the Tundra steering wheel vibration? We spent about 30K and deserved a better treatment. To the reported passenger captain seat vibration. I simulated it by seating in the rear bench, as soon as I slapped the shoulder of the seat, the whole floor vibrated. It is a great Truck if all these problems can be eliminated. I have a hard time to find shop equipped with Hunter balancing equipment. Any suggestions. Thanks.
  • evcvevcv Member Posts: 16
    It appears that the front wheel vibration "problem" is not unique to Toyota as the big 3 all have many posts regarding this problem.

    I draw the conclusion that it is most probable to occur on mid to large 2WD trucks. I've heard that rack and pinion steering can amplify the wheel vibrations as there is very little damping through the steering mechanism as compared to a steering system with recirculating balls.

    When Toyota starts talking about a heavier steering wheel - stay clear as they have just begun to start to analyze the problem and are grasping for a quick fix. Increasing mass is an old trick but it doesn't address the root of the problem.

    Also, 4WD trucks have drive axels that are spinning to create an inertial force which opposes lateral wheel movement. This may explain why I've not heard of many (any) complaints about the vibration from the 4WD Tundra owners.

    Solution: start with the optimal wheel tire combination, keep it round and balanced. From there - Toyota (Short term) will can mess with alignment, steering and wheel bearing pre-load adjustments. After that, its serious engineering time where it takes a year or two to fix it and get the fix into production.
  • ferris47ferris47 Member Posts: 131
    I was waiting on a 2000 Silverado order. It cam in after 3 months wrong. They found another Silverado for me but before I could get it I took the Tundra Plunge. I have done extensive research on all of them. If you are looking for a personal use truck. The tundra gets top honors with the Silverado right behind. Stick with the big three if you are going to be hauling excavators to the work site though. The Silverados have been having a very widespread vibration problem that there is currently no fix for. Last I heard about 40% of the 2wd have this. This fear and the the anger of my order being really wrong brought me to the Toyota dealership. Now let me say this as clearly as I can THE TUNDRA IS THE BEST TRUCK I HAVE EVER OWNED END OF STORY. Sure it might not have some of the fluff the big three put in their trucks. You know no compass in the mirror but all that goes away with one drive. If you want a Lexus truck this is it. Even the turn signals make a nice, satisfying, quality "cthunk" noise when you flip the stalk. As for 3 reasons.

    1)The Toyota reputation for quality and service backed up by a 5 year 60K powertrain Warrantee.
    2)An amazing engine that runs like a banshee with gobs of good ole American torque while screaming let's go faster even when it get high in the rev range. It does all this with a nice stock mellow exaust note and the precision of a swiss watch.
    3)The quality feel to every component in the truck. No rattles, no squeaks, no shudders over bumps. I mean I have never driven a truck so tight.

    Now I am a Chevy guy so I can expound the virtues of the Silverado too, but right now the Silverado is having just too many problems. Dodge technology is so old and their build quality is spotty at best. Ford makes a good truck, no denying that. Hell Toyota pretty much took all there cues from the F150 for the Tundra. Just don't care for Fords and the Tundra definitely feels better than the Ford. Like I said I really believe the Tundra is the best personal vehicle on the market. If Lexus made a pickup this would be it.

    BTW the Chevy may have 4 wheel disc brakes but the brakes on the Tundra definitly are up to the task, probably the best feeling brakes I have ever felt in a truck. No regrets here whatsoever.
  • pomy11pomy11 Member Posts: 23
    Framehog, thanks to you and fellow Hoosiers for this truck of mine. You all deserve credit, eliminate one bowtie head on this page and everybody is impressed with the Tundra, I am and drove all Ford trucks since '77. Rumors in this page about a Supercharger like the Ford lightning, can you confirm??? Where do I send my check. Thanks
  • ystangystang Member Posts: 1
    When the dealer upgrade the wheel and tire (6 spoke aluminum wheel, 265/70 R16 tire), should the spare also be upgraded (at least the tire from 245/70 R16 to the 265/70 R16)? Any comments would be appreciated.
  • clnguyeclnguye Member Posts: 6
    Funny you mentioned Mike Calvert Toyota. I talked with Larry Moody this morning. He gave me 1,500 above invoice. $1,000 in my opinion is a very good deal. I ordered one end of August from a dealer in Marshal, TX. They gave me $600 above invoice. A lot of people also ordered from there. However, at this point, I don't know of anyone receiving the Tundra from Marshal dealer yet. I'll go back to Calvert and demand $1,000 over invoice tomorrow. For $400, it's worth not having to drive 250 miles and the uncertainty whether you'll get the truck or not.

    I also live in Houston. I would buy the Tundra $1,000 over invoice any day.
  • clnguyeclnguye Member Posts: 6
    I did't talk to Mike Calvert Toyota. I talked to Jay Marks this morning. Sorry for the mix up.

    I'll try Mike Calvert tomorrow morning.
  • lvstanglvstang Member Posts: 149
    The 265 tire is just slightly taller than the 245.From reading the posts my understanding is the Tundra doesn't offer limited slip therefore I would not worry about the difference in tire size. If you had limited slip and had a flat on that axle and ran a different diameter tire for any length of time it could cause damage to the diff.
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    A problem you may have with a different sized spare is the anit-lock brakes. For the AL brake system to work properly you must have the same sized tires. You should ask Toyota to be safe.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Lets put that one on the engine to rest with this
    tell from the news (there tell not mine):

    The Tundra has an all-new engine, too, built at Toyota's new engine plant in West Virginia.

    Here is the link per Franklin:
    http://www.auto.com/reviews/sj_0708_tundra.htm

    Franklin knows them trucks better than most! Franklin claims them engines assembled in that
    West Virinia plant by them good ol'boys, but that
    foundry can be found south of the border
    in Mexico. Don't know about that Mexico tell,
    but looks like them engines are a comin from
    WV and not that island factory as told by some who say they have the know.

    Lets not here no weepin over this now. Just pushin out a little truth thats all. For them
    who have the problem with the truth, don't come
    cryin my way! For them that say that engine comes
    from the island, back up your tell with a link way
    I did mine. Good luck on this one now!
  • emruzekemruzek Member Posts: 24
    Just to let everyone know, my tundra is 4wd.
  • mhill5mhill5 Member Posts: 37
    In ferris47's message he stated "You know no compass in the mirror but all that goes away with one drive". To me, this implies that you can't get the compass option on the Tundra. Not so.

    On my Limited 4x4, I have optional rear-view mirror with the compass and ambient temperature gauge.

    Rubblemouth: PLEASE shutup with this engine fantasy of yours. Things have been so pleasant while you were "supposedly" gone!
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Just responin to framehog on his post #910 to me. Don't know where you hail from, but here
    in the US of A one is allowed a response. If you
    have the know about that tindra engine origin,
    jump on it, just back it up with that link if
    you claim it be from the island as framehog does. If you just weepin about the truth, weep to some
    other one than me sonny! What say? Can anybody back up with a link where that tindra
    engine comes from? I here nothin but weepin on
    this one. Good luck with that Mexican foundry lexzy V8 assembled in West Virginia by them good ol'boys now!
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    Exactly why am I suppose to care that the engine is built in WV with Mexican steel? Do you have one of those shivy's built in Canada? Are the shivys built in Canada inferior to the ones built in the US? Why would some one buy a smaller then full size truck like Shivy instead of a full size Ford? Good luck with this one now.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    The cryin starts to flow like the rivers now!
    Just responin to post #910 Al, dry them eyes!

    As far as the Chevy vs. Ford, the Chevy has the
    slightly larger dimension, but big 3 all be
    about dimension uniformed (within about 1/2 inch) with that smaller tindra behind them. I guess you speak of the SD Ford, now that one is bigger,
    or maybe all that weapin made it hard for them eyes to see on that truck size now?

    Don't have an anwser on that Chevy built in Canada
    vs US, I see if Franklin has any tell on it.

    Guess them Mexican tindra lexzy V8 is built in West Virginia by them good ol'boys, since I hear
    nothin but weapin on this one. Good luck on
    them engines now!
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    You might want to get some cheese to go with your whine. So what your saying is those "good ole boys" can't get the job done? Seems you got some problems with folks from WV. Well, let's just stick with facts and not bring in bigotry shall we? Remember the user agreement... Maybe you could state some facts as to why engines built in WV should be a concern. Or do you just want to whine some more about those good ole boys? I guess buying a shivy makes you remorseful. Anyway, since all you have is whining, I'll let you get back to it. I'm sure I'll have lots of luck with that engine. Good luck with yours. I KNOW you're gonna need it.
  • cwirthcwirth Member Posts: 169
    rublutoo:
    Maybe the engine is built in WVa with Mexican components but all I know is that it will outlast any Chevy engine, and that's a fact. Try getting a couple hundred thousand miles on a GM product, no way bud. Good luck on that one now.
  • 1taxman1taxman Member Posts: 27
    What is with you. You just don't like Mexicans and workers in WVa.? The steel used in is probably US. If it is made in a Toyota factory it is probalbly better than anything shivy makes. You can do a tell on that.
  • lexmarklexmark Member Posts: 68
    Hey Rube, I read your link, http://www.auto.com/reviews/sj_0708_tundra.htm. Did you read it? It doesn't exactly turn anyone off the Tundra - observe this quote from the end of the article,". . .what they'll find is a legitimate big pickup with Toyota's name on its nose."

    Come on, admit it! You really are working for Toyota aren't you?
  • trucks4metrucks4me Member Posts: 42
    Where you get off thinkin I cut down my buddies
    from WV Albert? You typical thinkin that way
    sonny. I just statin the fact on that engine, in
    a reply to framehog, and you think this is
    a cut? You ain't got the smarts of a shoe if
    you thinkin that way Albert. I not say that
    tindra engine bad - go back and read the post
    whine baby. I just respond that framehog mistaken on that engine tell, pull up your pants now eveyone, cause looks like a flood of tears
    startin on this one. Now as far as Mexico, this
    just another fact on that foundry, got nothin to
    do with any Mexican folks. You tindra ones have
    a good imagination, say that much for ya, now if you all can just grow up alitte.

    Still heard nothin on that engine origin, just alot of whinein, what say framehog, you suppose to work from the belly of that beast, what say on this engine origin? Back it up with the link, lets keep the truth on this one now.

    Good luck on that toyota? engine now!
  • cwirthcwirth Member Posts: 169
    rublutoo = trucks4me
  • trucks4metrucks4me Member Posts: 42
    One more thing to all - my grand-daddy (rubluetoo)was right on that engine so now except the fact on it or find him wrong, but don't go cryin and whinein at him like a bunch of 12 year olds. I have checked back on his posts, from what I see, he be right on most, or just statin his
    opinion on this or that. I never seen so many
    sissies like I have on this forum.

    Franklin
  • trucks4metrucks4me Member Posts: 42
    Bring it on, I'm not no old man like my grand-daddy.

    Bob Jones
    Charleston, SC

    Just ask around, I'm not hard to find.....
  • gustusgustus Member Posts: 14
    Rubluetoo,since you don't know where the engine is from see if you and Franklin can find out where the transmission is manufactured,let us know.By the way if you have more weight on your Chevy than the owners manual states you are putting the other people on the highway at risk for an accident plus your warranty may not be any good plus your insurance company may balk.All trucks will do the haul if you stick to the manual.Hope I don't meet you on the road with that overloaded truck.Have a good day.
  • eostereoster Member Posts: 54
    The world we live in is global. There are the ISO standards that provide for a part made in Turkey to be the equal of one made in Germany. The quality of of a product are the total effort of designing, manufacturing and quality control. Like it or not Mexican foundries may be able to produce better alloys than the US counterparts due to fewer environmental regulations.

    As the international boundaries get blurred, the ultimate quality of products we by is more dependent on corporate culture than place of origin.
  • arkie6arkie6 Member Posts: 198
    All of the Tundras that I have looked at on the lots (many) have listed the origin of the major parts content of the truck. The 4.7L V8 and auto transmission were listed as the only major components manufactured in Japan on all of the trucks. This ain't no lie, it's just the facts. That article in the Detroit Free Press may be in error or may be referring to the plant that makes the Camry engines, which may also make Tundra engines in the future. As far as the foundry in Mexico, where is the data to back up that claim? Hearsay doesn't carry much weight with me, so if you've got some real hard facts, show me.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    I'm lookin for some backup on that Mexican foundry
    now, have only Franklin's tell on it. I agree,
    on the weight of words, should back it up with some links or something. As far as the engine origin, Franklin tells it from WV, and I did find some back up on this from them San Jose Mercury News folks. Not seen any backup (links) as to that island claim yet. If that engine built in WV with Mexican steel (block), I not sayin this bad, I agree with eoster, this here is a global place we live in now. If I find that Mexican foundry fact some place on this here web, I will post it up now. Good luck on this one here!
  • 606zpx606zpx Member Posts: 75
    What's up with "Bring it on"???

    Are you actually challenging someone to fight over the Tundra engine issue?

    This has turned into the most immature string of responses on a forum I have seen in some time. I do believe that constructive criticism is appropriate here, but neither you or rubluetoo have anything useful to say in my estimation. All you serve to do is attempt to stirr up controversy where there isn't any

    P.S. I live in Charleston and I have never heard of you.
  • sharkbait1sharkbait1 Member Posts: 19
    Did you really get a Tundra with 4 wheel discs, and a tow package on an Limited? Or did a misinformed salesman just tell you that? Or is Toyota now adding these on? Let us know. thanks
  • gmw2216gmw2216 Member Posts: 12
    According to Toyota's web site, the motor plant in W.V. only makes four and six cylinder engines, not the V8.
  • evcvevcv Member Posts: 16
    Anyone willing to bet me that the engine and tranny are built in North America? I'll bet that they are built in Japan. Truck for Truck?

    I don't believe everything I read. I believe in the US Customs Department and the Country of Origin content sheet on truck. Framehog knows much more than he is willing to share........

    Call Toyota and they'll gladly tell you the country of origin for the engine and tranny!

    Rubletoo: you should grow up and backup your words with actions (you said you'd leave this post). Now grow up and get along......
  • cwirthcwirth Member Posts: 169
    The orange peel effect you noted on the lower panels are part of the All-Weather package. The y should appear on the lower 7-8 inches. It is there as an anti-chip protection. However, 'runs' in the paint should not be there.
  • bob223bob223 Member Posts: 8
    Just aword from a " good ol' Indiana boy". I know your pretty knowledgable about trucks, I'm not. But one thing i do know is that a co-worker bought a silverodo about six months ago brand new. Guess what, his transmission went out last week. Of course it is covered by the warranty, but it makes you think, if this truck has this kind of problem at 6,000 miles, whats in store for the future? To me, his "tell tells the tell". good luck now.
    btw: he rode in my tundra and drove it and loves it.
  • chrischarleschrischarles Member Posts: 1
    I don't want an automatic, the ability to push start or use the starter to crawl the truck in 4wd, in addition to lugging the engine in a higher gear on snow is something I really can't live without. When will we see them. An interesting fact, my father just purchased a 99 Suburban in Montana and the dealer just shook his head when he was looking at the point of assembly, it was Wisconsin. The dealer said that all the suburbans he has seen for the past two years have been assembled in Mexico.
  • brucec35brucec35 Member Posts: 246
    You watch pro wrestling, don't you?
  • tundradudetundradude Member Posts: 588
    yea i got one, v6 that is
  • framehogframehog Member Posts: 8
    Hello all. I can assure you that ALL of the tundra engines are made in Japan. The WV engine plant is only building 4 and 6 cylinder engines for now. There are plans for the WV plant to begin producing engines for the Tundra in the future, but for now, EVERY ONE of them is assembled in Tahara, Japan. They are shipped by sea, rail and truck to Princeton, Indiana.
    As far as I know, the only steel from a Mexican foundry in the Tundra is in the rear leaf springs. The only leaf springs produced in North America come from Mexico. This includes Ford, Chevy and Dodge.

    p.s. you guys are gonna love the sport ute build on the Tundra frame.
  • mhill5mhill5 Member Posts: 37
    #1- I live in S.C. (same place you hail) and the only Bob Jones I know is the one with the university named after him. I don't think that is you!

    #2- No one was/has been "weepin" about our engines. You and Franklin have been doing all the "cryin". YOU broke your promise by returning to this forum and continue to spew false claims. In essence, you called framehog a liar and HE works at the Tundra factory (If I were to tell you that Michelin owns Uniroyal and BF Goodrich, would you imply that I am a liar, too?). Others here have stated TRUE facts as to the origin of the engine. Now, Franklin has resorted to threats of violence.

    While you were absent from these Tundra topics, everything was so pleasant and peaceful. See how one person (two, if you count Franklin) can ruin it for everybody. You don't have ANY vested interest in a Toyota Tundra; why would you waste the few remaining years of your life here? In the end, this will not matter at all!

    Happy trails.
  • emruzekemruzek Member Posts: 24
    WHO MAKES THE ALUMINUM RIMS FOR THE TUNDRA? IS IT TOYOTA, OR A SUBCONTRACTOR? I NOTICED MINE ARE MADE IN CANADA.
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    I can't believe a few Chevy owners can completely ruin a topic. Was that your goal?

    Several posts back you called me a "putz" for associating your name to Rube. Then said "there's know way I'm that country hick or fool".

    Franklin, you're a liar and have not one ounce of credibility here. You can't possibly make any meaningful contribution. Why don't you take you and your grand-dady on over to the Chevy conference. Your wealth of knowledge and fantasy will be much appreciated there.
  • achiangoachiango Member Posts: 6
    I've been told that the OEM wheel manufacturer is Enkei. They also make the distributor installed wheels available on trucks in the South East.

    Also, a compass/temperature mirror is also an option ($199) on trucks from this distributor. Talk to Learie Wells of Stewart Toyota, North Palm Beach. Great guy, good deals, just too far from me.

    Depending on who you talk to, a hitch is available on 33% of limiteds. Some EPA weight thing. Other dealers say, none at all. You can get the factory wiring harness and add your own hitch. Toyota doesn't make the hitches anyway.
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  • framehogframehog Member Posts: 8
    Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question. We have a supplier on site who mounts the tires and rims and delivers them to a conveyor inside the assembly shop. I do know that early on, we had a vibration in the wheels. We changed to a different wheel/tire combo and the problem went away.
  • emruzekemruzek Member Posts: 24
    THANK YOU FOR THE INFO. I would really appreciate it if you could tell me if my wheels are one of the early ones. Mine were made on 3/99, and I am having a horrible time trying to get them balanced. The Hunter machine cannot even balance them correctly.I finally ended up getting a decent balance(decent,not perfect) on a bubble balancer
    nonetheless.
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    Same ole whine different day. Once again you didn't answer my question. Here it is with as many monosyllabic words as possible...

    Why should I care that people from WV built the engine????
  • powercatpowercat Member Posts: 96
    Has anyone else thought about lifting the front end of the Tundra a little to level out the stance?
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    How am I to know why you should care? I not a
    mind reader now. Good luck figurin it out now!
  • h_bosih_bosi Member Posts: 9
    I am ready for a new truck.

    Just curious, is Toyota coming out with a Tundra crewcab anytime soon? That back seat on the Xtended cab is just OK; too straight up to be comfortable for long. I need a truck but also have a family to haul around.

    P.S. - just ignore rubluetoo & his silly comments. After a while, I got no idea what he is saying. At first, he seemed to imply that it must be BAD that Tundra parts & engines are made in Japan (i.e. Tundras are not really "made in America"). Then, later, Rubluetoo seemed to imply that it must also be BAD that Tundra engines may eventually be made in the USA/Mexico (does it mean that made-in-USA products are generally inferior?? That would go against what I thought was Rubluetoo's position!!).

    I read his posts with amusement. I owned a small Japanese made truck - 91 Mazda B2600i with a 5-spd transmission. Throw a slide-in camper on top of it; hook up a small bass boat behind it. Hauled the camper/boat all over Colorado, over mountain passes. Not once, but lots of times all summer long. AND IT NEVER BROKE, NOT EVEN ONCE!! If my little truck can do that, I am sure that a Tundra can do 10 times better.

    I got nothing against Chevy. My uncle drives Chevy. His seems to run OK, but he usually trades his in at around 60K miles. I always wonder though if his Chevy will still be running well, at say 120K - 200K miles. I am confident that a Toyota would.

    And finally, I can't imagine them good ole boys in West Virginia are that much different from them good ole boys in South Carolina. Give those WV guys a break!

    .. my 2 cents worth ...

    /BOSI
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