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Toyota Tundra 2000



  • framehogframehog Member Posts: 8
    First, we started production in February and ramped -up to full swing in July. I do not know when we switched tire and rim combos but if I were you I would insist the the dealer replace them and see if the problem goes away.

    The 2001 model will have a modified rear seat (much better comfort). I seriously doubt a crew cab any time soon. The 2001 sport utility on the Tundra frame will be the next vehicle coming from Indiana.

    I have no trouble ignoring lying idiots. I can only say this.....EVERY TUNDRA ENGINE IS MADE IN JAPAN! Someday, the WV plant will build our engines, just not yet. I am also certain that they will not be made with steel from Mexico.

    Have a great day and enjoy your Tundras. The team here is very proud of every one. When J.D. Power rate the Tundra # 1, maybe you know who will shut up.
  • emruzekemruzek Member Posts: 24
    ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU! Two last questions. I will be adding side bars to my tundra that may use the cab mount bolts to mount instead of bolting to the frame. Could you possible find out the torque specs on the body and cab mount bolts? Secondly, you mentioned an upgrade rear seat in the 2001 model. Will it be possible to retrofit my 2000 with the new seat?
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    DH Towing Receiver Hitch (All Except Limited)

    Why no factory hitch on that limited one?
  • lvstanglvstang Member Posts: 149
    Because nobody knows what country the hitch is made in.
    HUH???? Makes about as much sense as the rest of your silly posts. On a serious note if you could just give us any semblance for the reasoning you have about your country of origins maybe we could agree with you. Seems to me the old El Camino was made in Mexico. Or are we just to humor you because you're Franklin's grandpappy. Are you sure you're not Jar Jar Binks?
  • emruzekemruzek Member Posts: 24
    rube, my guess on the no hitch on limited issue is that the limited is heavier than the non limited versions. adding the hitch may put the total weight of the truck over some epa limit to classify this truck under the low emissions class.Just a guess!!! ONLY A GUESS!!
  • pchengpcheng Member Posts: 162

    A few posts back someone accused Trucks4Me to be you. The response to that accusation was that Trucks4Me just had a similar name, and not to associate the baffoon to you just because the names are similar. (this was arround post #715: you will notice that those posts were removed and the sequential numbers skips). Now, by his own admission, Trucks4Me is Franklin.

    Okay, I don't personally care who you or your family is. I don't really care whether you like or dis-like Toyotas or Chevys. But by your own admission, you state that one must do the research before posting information.

    Well, go back and re-read my post #771. Chevy's are more likely to be built in Mexico than this Tundra. The WV plant has two engine lines (a 4Cyl and a V6 line, no V8 as of yet). Toyota does not obtain parts from Mexico other than leaf springs (same place that supplies Chevys, Fords, and Dodge's). These are varifiable facts.

    If Franklin know's these trucks (probably Chevys, Fords, and Dodges) why didn't he know this fact. And if he knew the auto industry so well, why doesn't he do some research and verify my information about the WV (It's called the Buffalo Engine facility to get him started). Let him post his findings and I will bet it coincides with mine.

    I'm not sure what you have against Mexican produced parts and vehicles, since more Big 3's vehicles are produced in Mexico, and contain more Mexican parts than Toyota's vehicles (once again read post #771).

    I will continue to defend your right to post your opinion here, but you're damaging your own credibility more than anyone else.

    Nothing personnal, I'm sure you're as much of a son-of-a-b*tch as I am. And, personally, compared to my friends from N. NJ, you're a [non-permissible content removed] cat.

    To everyone else: LIGHTEN UP!!! Don't you have any friends that are a pain in the *ss? You know, the ones that are fun to go out drinking with, but wouldn't invite to Christmas dinner (without lots of alcohol). It's not personal, he's just a jerk (he can't help it).

    That's my piece. Bobby Joe . . . let's see what Franklin comes up with.
  • michaelb3michaelb3 Member Posts: 10
    Did I read earlier that someone switched out the horns in their Tundra to something that sounds a little...I don't know...Tougher? I honked mine the other day for the first time and my fiance just about fell out of the truck laughing because the the horn sounded damn wimpy. Have to admit, she was right. Any solutions? and if so, is it tough to do? I'm not interested in any 18 wheeler air horns, just an easy but better swap for the factory stuff.
    Love the sound of the engine, hate the sound of the horn.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    There just not that much haul or horn in them
    tindras now, is there?
  • hall2hall2 Member Posts: 40
    My wife thought that the horn sounds like a Japanese car.
  • 3peasinapod3peasinapod Member Posts: 26
    What is the new rim and tire combination that got rid of the vibration problem? Also, when will the 2001 Tundras be released.
  • michaelb3michaelb3 Member Posts: 10
    The "Tindra" comment was clever,though totally false the first 80 times you used it. Just old now.
    I'm looking for constructive help, Rube, not grade school namecalling. I don't realy care how old you are. Grow up.
  • 3peasinapod3peasinapod Member Posts: 26
    #915 of 977: (3peasinapod) (framehog) Sun 03 Oct '99 (01:35 AM)

    I am sorry, but I am not familiar with the wheel
    vibration problem that you spoke of. None of the
    Tundras that I have driven have had that problem.
    There was a wind noise from the rear leaf springs,
    but they have been modified and that is no longer
    an issue.
    #961 of 977: To emruzek (framehog) Tue 05 Oct '99 (10:38 AM)

    Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question.
    We have a supplier on site who mounts the tires and
    rims and delivers them to a conveyor inside the
    assembly shop. I do know that early on, we had a
    vibration in the wheels. We changed to a different
    wheel/tire combo and the problem went away.

    Did this really cure the problem?? From post #915 you replied to no knowledge of any wheel vibration problem, but as you stated in topic #961, you admitted there was a problem and it was cured. I am not trying to harass you, just trying to find the truth to this matter.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Just makin a funny, don't get up in a roar now!
    Try them PepBoys for a new horn.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Franklin is drivin me into the city too that
    toyota dealer tonite! We do the compare
    between them tindras and his Chevrolet. Will
    get a measure on that driveshaft, and bed
    size now, and park them 2 side by side too.
    Franklin know them trucks good! This will be
    the first for me now, just been readin on them,
    get to see one for sure tonite! This is the big one now, eh? Hope he gets here soon.
  • Brad98Brad98 Member Posts: 4
    I plan to purchase my Tundra this January based upon the great operating success and quality of my two Camrys. Toyota quality is hard to beat.

    I am purchasing the truck to tow a new Seaswirl Striper 2100. The combined weight of the boat and trailer is approximately 4400 pounds. I realize the Tundra V8 has a tow rating of 7200 pounds.

    I do not want to be disappointed in the performance of the Tundra towing this kind of weight.

    Does anyone have any experience in Towing with the Tundra? How does it perform? Is there enough horsepower and torque to pull this weight without using 100 percent of the engine's capacity?

    Any input will be greatly appreciated.
  • powercatpowercat Member Posts: 96
    Hella makes a couple of great horns that will work on the Tundra one is an air horn. Performance Products sells them. Did I read a post about rubberblue? Is he back? I hadn't noticed.
  • schroederaschroedera Member Posts: 13

    This site has the horns I purchased for mine, the truck has not arrived yet but you will know when it does.

    The Air Horns sound Too , Too European to me.
    Besides Rueblue would not approve.
  • gmw2216gmw2216 Member Posts: 12
    Does anyone know how much light the rear tinted windows transmit? The reason I ask is that here in Iowa the law says there must be at least 70% light transmission. A friend was ticketed recently for having his factory installed (Ford) windows too dark. Hate to think what new windows would cost. thanks, Gary
  • SporinSporin Member Posts: 1,066
    Griot's Garage ( sells a loud horn too, I believe it is a Euro-spec Hella.

    re: Tundra
    I LIKE the fact that the Tundra is a bit smaller then the full-size USA trucks. Personally, the "compact" pickups (Ranger/Tacoma/Frontier/S10) are just a bit too small for me, and the Full-Size trucks are a bit bigger then what I need. Seems to me the Tundra is just right.
  • cwirthcwirth Member Posts: 169
    Does anyone know where I can get a listing of distributor installed options for the Tundra with prices. Somewhere other than the dealer. The on-line pricing sites only have a limited list of port installed options.
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    All right a new vintage whine. Looking forward to it. Good luck on making it to the Toyota dealer. I know ya'll be needing it driving that shivy.
  • lovatolovato Member Posts: 17
    Rob, sorry for getting back to so late. I was hopping the rubluetoo would go away.

    Thank you for the camper websites. I am in Erie. I think a Tundra Denver group would be a good thing. Let us know.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Franklin not fit to well in them tindras! We
    laughed and laughed at him all scrunched up in
    that cab..... We pulled that massey-furgerson behind us, but that sales lady not let us hook and haul on that one they called the sr5, so I didn't do the haul with that one. That drive-shaft looked thin too haul a massey-furgerson, but we never got a try it. Anyone do a haul
    of full weight on one of them yet? That
    massey-furgerson comes in about 9500 or so.
  • cwirthcwirth Member Posts: 169
    Glad to see that you finally got a chance to actually see the Tundra. Now that you have and formed a final opinion on the truck you can now leave and go to the Chevy topic and laugh it up with all you GM buddies. Good Bye.
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    What berglund1 said!
  • lvstanglvstang Member Posts: 149
    why not you and franklins comz and gets me to go seez dem trucks? Ohhhh franklins too fat to get athird person in hiz shivvvy. Sorry. No wonder could not fits in dat der tindra.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Don't know about that Chevrolet haul rateins,
    but that Franklin's Chevrolet been haulin that massey/furgerson plenty of times now. How do
    you fella's fit in that Tojo sized cab now?
    I be too old to squeeze on in there, and poor
    Franklin had hard time squeezin out now! They
    sure are smaller than the big3 now. They
    look thin and they too small and lightwieght for the farm, I think they get used up quick if you put em to work hard. Anybody out there workin that tindra on the farm yet? Can the fifth wheel
    be added on that bed? Anybody out there added the fifth wheel on one yet?
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    First off, this Chevy vs Tundra thing isn't a debate about who's truck can haul more, Kenworth wins there.

    I think the Tundra audience is made up of mostly personal use buyers. That means people using it for NON COMMERCIAL purposes. Myself, I haul camping gear and a boat, which will never go higher that 5000 pounds, even if I get a larger boat. The heaviest thing in my camping arsenal is BEER! So, none of your arguments hold any water when you're talking about pulling over 8000 pounds. It doesn't matter, get it?

    If us Tundra buyers were going to work on the farm and haul tractors we wouldn't have bought Tundra's. I think I can speak for other Tundra owners. We bought these trucks because we expect a better quality truck than the big 3 put out. BIGGER doesn't mean BETTER!! Please understand this. It's plain-as-day obvious that Toyota's are more reliable than GM's, HANDS-DOWN. You were shown a list of topics that cover GM problems, did you see it? Are you in complete denial?

    To summarize for you:

    We are after LIGHT DUTY, RELIABLE trucks. Chevy doesn't win that category.

    Even some of the positive Chevy reviews say the build quality of GM is questionable. Maybe you should checkout the "tractor pull" topic. Get off of our asses now.

    And yes I agree you do have a right to your opinion and to post. It's just that you've stated it many times, and frankly it's not considered anymore.

    Respectfully yours


    FYI: If I was going to tow houses and and other large items I'd buy a Ford, despite the fact that the GM has more features.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    I think that White-Liner wins on the haul.
    That Kenworth not near as strong as that
    White-Liner in my book.

    Chevy says:
    We build the most dependable, longest-lasting
    trucks on the road.

    That means that them Chevys must be more dependable than them tojo toys. This is
    based on JD-Powell folks tell, not mine now.

    I agree that them tindras not near as heavy duty
    as the Chevrolet. I just am wonderin if any one has worked one of them yet, added the fifth wheel for the heavy load, and such. After lookin em over in person, I think they might get used up quick on the farm, as thin as they are. What say,
    anybody workin them limited ones?
  • bob223bob223 Member Posts: 8
    Who puts fifth wheels on half ton trucks anyways? Wouldn't a 3/4 or 1 ton be more suitable? By the way, my little nephew is 6:4, 318 lb.s and doesn't have a problem sitting in the front of my Tundra.
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    You always seem to single out the Tundra Limited. The difference between the limited and SR5 model is a few luxury items, such as power leather seats. Limited and standard model (SR5) have the same drivetrain.


    A happy Tundra owner who just smoked a Silerado.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    bob223, I be about that size of your nephew,
    Franklin just tad bigger, and he had trouble
    with that cab space now, I not give it a try, as
    I too old to struggle with it. Maybe that nephew
    more limber? He surely not stretch out now, that
    for sure, in that tojo size cab. People who use
    them trucks for work add them fifth wheels, 1/2 ton included now. Franklin has the fifth on his.

    Artp, that slogan backed up by that JD Powell folks, go grab a Chevrolet brochere, and see it for yourself now. Them topics all on same thing, some type of vibration or something, seems I here tell of this on them tindras now too. Yet to see anything that amounts to much of nothin.
    Fact is, there be millions of them Chevrolets and just a few of them tindras, expect to hear more based on this fact alone.

    One more thing too, them Chevys are worked by
    them owners, haulin and such. All I be hearin
    on them tindras is campin and boatin and such.
    That aint workin a truck! Bring them tindras
    down here to the Jones farm, we put'em to work quick now. And there is no way that tindra goin
    smoke a Chevrolet, unless its that little v8 or 6
    now! That Chevrolet must wieght 500 to 600 pounds
    more than that tindra, and still whip it in a race. Good luck on them limited ones now!
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    Ok you win (based on your communiation skills).

    Now leave us alone!
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156

    You've been so informative about the weakness of the Tundra. Tomorrow I will trade in my Tindra for one of them Chevy's. I can't thank you enough for openin' my eyes and tellin' on that factory. Toyota liars!

    Do you think I should get a Silverado or Sierra? 1500, 2500 or dually 3500? Which engine do you recommend? Should I buy the extended warranty? When the f***er breaks which shop should I take it to? Or will you and Frankie come and fix it for me? Can I at least borrow your Chevy to get to work? Which GM topic do you think I should go to, to get good information about the Chevy, without havin' to listen to all them lies?

    Again, Mr. jones, sir, thank you!

    Also, where do I get one of them JD Powder brochures? I thought they made whiskey? Goin' for new markets huh?
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Best get the 2500, this be a good all around
    truck. Get one loaded up now, it will give you
    the haul in style!

    That 2500 won't break, have no fear, work it hard
    now, it was built to last, be a classic one day.

    Good luck on that new Chevrolet, glad to have been
    of service on this one.
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156

    Took my Tindra down to the Chevy place for the trade. When I pulled up there were five or six guys lookin' at Chevy trucks. All their heads popped up, they were lookin' at the Tindra, yep! When I parked they all came over and started askin' questions and such. One guy wanted to look under the hood and said "wow! a Toyota truck with a V8", "how much torque that thing put out now?" I told him, "I recon' it's 315 ft/lbs now". Then they started askin' how much and were'd ya get it from.

    I told them guys about how you and Frankie set me straight on the Silverado and told em your tells about the factory. You know what they said? They said "We know that Frankie guy, he's full of it, his family's trucks been in the shop plenty now". They said "boy, you don't listen to them Jones's now".

    Well Rube...

    I took my $30,000 Tundra and I headed outta there now, just as the plaid coated salesman was chasin' me down.

    Havin' second thoughts, what think?
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    You just foolin on me now, I can tell it for sure. You never brung that tindra by no
    Chevrolet dealer, you be makin that up now!
    But I say this much, if you paid $30,000 for
    that tojo truck, the joke be on you! eh?
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    I really did go down there. Some place in Charleston.

    By the way:

    I'm tryin' to decide whether to trade my wifes 99 VW Passat for one of them Chevy Cavalier, what think?
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175

    Artp, I think that dealer would swap you that tindra for this Chevrolet, what think on this?

    I would trade on the Cavalier for sure.
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    Now that's a truck. Where do I get one? I'm concerned DMV won't give tags to it, or it won't pass smog. How about insurance rates? What think?
  • SporinSporin Member Posts: 1,066
    I would just like to say that is is an educational and socialogical FACT that it is HARDER to WRITE with an accent then it is to write clear, plain English. From this, I have deduced the following things about you:

    a. You do NOT talk the way you write, or, if you do, it is purely for show
    b. You WRITE this way as an insult to the average American
    c. You are probably just a kid who enjoys jerking peoples' chains on the internet
    d. Your internet skills are far and above those of the average, farm-raised senior citizen, see "c".

    I am shocked and offended that Edmunds' has allowed you to post for this long when your posts are an obvious slam on hard working minorities and low income people who have not had the priveledge of a higher education. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    PS- When will you get it through your head that the majority of Tundra owners are buying as a personal use vehicle for light towing and hauling??!! These same buyers are LOOKING for a truck that is SMALLER then the big 3 full-sizers, so arguing that the Chevy is better because it has a higher tow rate and a bigger cab is an irrelevent argument in this topic. I am sure that if someone, even a die-hard Toyota fan, was looking for a truck to pull 1-ton farm duty, they would not even consider the Tundra because that is NOT what they were designed for.
  • sclementsclement Member Posts: 2
    Regarding the observations about rubluto and franklin....I believe that you hit the nail right on the head ! I think that it would be best if everyone in this forum just ignored any future comments made by the "person" who claims to be rublueto or franklin.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Guess you learned them things in some fancy
    liberal Vermont colleage town, but there is no
    truth in those words of yours. Just talkin on
    trucks here now, no insult meant to them tindra owners, have been plain on this point many a time. The fancy ones like you try to read more
    into them posts than is just there, these are just
    simple truths on trucks, you read into it anything
    more than that, and it be your tell, not mine now.
    Life must be hard on a tender one such as yourself, if these here words are offendin and shockin to ya, hope things get better ya when you grow up now.

    Pilo, we raise some chickens here, but never worked for that GM factory. Enough on my simple life here, back to them trucks now.

    Artp, that is one fine truck now, is it not!
  • SporinSporin Member Posts: 1,066
    Whatever...keep doing your thing you obviously get a kick out of it. I will try my best to ignore you since you obviously have nothing to add to the conversation.
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    I think Rube is for real. I sort of sympathize because he's only writing what he truely believes. You can't fault someone for that. There is no changing his mind, no matter what evidence is presented.
  • SporinSporin Member Posts: 1,066
    Hey, there is always a chance that Rube is for real, but I have been reading this conference for a long time and I have to go with my gut on this one. Could I be wrong? Sure, and if I am then I do apoligise(sp?), but I think I am pretty close to the truth IMO.

    As far as his opinion on the Chevy trucks, I actually agree with him. For the kind of work he is describing, the Chevy would be my choice too and I certainly don't deny him his opinion.

    I don't take any offence from WHAT he is saying, just HOW he is saying it. I needed to speak my mind about it and now that I have, I will drop it.
  • arkie6arkie6 Member Posts: 198

    In an earlier post you mentioned hauling a Massey-Ferguson tractor. Just curious, but which model?
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    Can't say how the Tundra works on the farm. Don't got a farm. If I ever do though I'll let you know. If I wanted a work truck though, I'd have to buy that there blue oval. The shivy just can't keep up with that there Ford.

    You and franklin better cut down on that fried chicken and mashed taters. Pretty soon you won't be able to make it out the door to get to your shivy. Better stop with that whine, for you give yourself that there coranary too. Stress is bad on you old overweight folks. Good luck with that there health.
  • lexmarklexmark Member Posts: 68
    Some Tundra owners must like you. Why else would some kind Tundra guy have given you this nice ride home?

    Why do I know I'll regret doing this?
  • arkie6arkie6 Member Posts: 198
    framehog, in post #968 you mentioned that the 2001 model Tundra will be getting a more comfortable rear seat. Is there going to be a change to the dimensions of the cab? I hope not, because I like the current size. Any idea when the 2001 models will be in production? Any other changes to the 2001 model? Any info would be much appreciated.

    I'm not yet ready to purchase a new truck; however, come next summer I will be. For my needs, here is how the current line of trucks stack up:

    #1 Tundra
    #2 Ford
    #3 Chevy/GMC
    #4 Dodge

    I currently own a Chevy S-10 4X4 Extended cab, but have regretted not getting the Toyota due to the poor quality of the Chevy and very poor dealer service.
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