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  • lebeau69lebeau69 Member Posts: 13
    ONE MORE ITEM, LOOK AT(www.4are.com) they make the canopy and tonneau cover for the crew cab
    have a nice day
  • lebeau69lebeau69 Member Posts: 13
    IT'S A NISSAN 6 PIECE KIT INSTALLED TO TRIM OUT THE INTERIOR. IT GOES AROUND THE RADIO,DASH, SIDE DOORS. SIMILAR TO THE WOOD TRIM THEY PUT IN THOSE FANCY CARS. IT'S THE SAME STUFF THAT'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE TRUCK. THE V6,FRONTIER AND THE TAILGATE INSIGNIA. COST ABOUT $300+.
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    I'm looking to find out what present owners with children think of the back seat. My two are 3 and
    5 years old. The 3 year old is in a car seat. Today I went to the dealer and put my kids and the car seat in the back and am questioning the
    rear seat comfort. If any of you has children that are a little older say 6 to 12 would you please tell me how they like sitting back there.
    Also does anyone have adults ride in the back?
    Thank you in advance for your response.
  • skipdskipd Member Posts: 97
    I have sat in the back seat of the Crew Cab myself when I was looking at one in the show room. I am 5'8". It wasn't the most comfy back seat. There was just enough leg room for me to fit back there with my knees up high, but it wasn't real comfortable. I suppose you can get a little more leg room if you move the front seat up a bit. In addition, I think the back seats are higher than the front, so my head was just about touching the ceiling. I have read several reviews that stated the back seats were adequate for children. and I think that is the case.

    Adults won't be very comfy, but it's really no worse than the back of a compact car and there is enough room to fit two adults back there if you have to. I like the CC because I think it's a lot more practicle than an extended cab. You have more lockable dry storage space and you actually can fit two people in the back in a pinch.

    My two cents.

    Skip
  • postalmanpostalman Member Posts: 11
    Hi,
    My son is thirteen, and he is very tall for his age, five foot nine, he fits in the back seat. He sits in back of the passenger side, because my wife is short, and we move the front seat up. He loves the Crew Cab.
  • ll7ll7 Member Posts: 16
    My children, ages 12 and 11 love the CC. They insist that we go everywhere in it as opposed to my wife's van. I have had full sized, over 6 foot, adults in the back seat for short trips of around 30 minutes and have had no complaints. The major complaint that I have about the back seat is that the seats do not fold-up to allow for more cargo space. As I recall, the back seats in the Dodge Quad Cab fold up for a very nice storage area. I think the Nissan engineers missed the mark on that one. Otherwise, I love the CC. It fits my need precisely.
  • owieowie Member Posts: 4
    Before we both our CC, my wife and I personaly sat in the back seat just to see if its comfortable and to see if there is enough room for an adult. We were both satisfied. I'm 5-7 and my wife is 5-0.
    My two kids are 8 and 6.I constantly ask them if they like the back seat, they love it so much. Plenty of room for the kids. They love the idea
    of having there own door in and out as opposed to
    our minivan. That is one of the main reason I put
    interest on a crew cab, having a four door and a
    decent bed for cargo.
  • jcl64jcl64 Member Posts: 6
    I have three boys, (3, 5, and 8). I am 5' 9" and my wife is a little shorter. I liken the back seat of my CC to that of the Cherokee. We have no problems and love traveling around town in the CC. My boys like the back windows down while we are tooling 'round. There is plenty of room for us as I don't push the front seats all the way back. Have a good day!
  • jlowmanjlowman Member Posts: 1
    I am interested in a 4WD CC but have a MotorHome and would like to tow with all wheels on the ground. Can anyone tell me if this vehicle can be towed in this manner without any modification?
  • navednaved Member Posts: 13
    So far theo888 has posted the lowest price of $21,959 for the CC 4x4 but did not mention if that model is auto or 5 spd. I am interested in buying the CC 4x4 fully loaded and wondering how much should I be spending, please help and let me know if you got a nice deal.

    Thanks!
  • skipdskipd Member Posts: 97
    I'm interested in how you got your price as well....can you break it all down for us? It will help me and others arm ourselves when it's time to buy. Sounds like you got a great deal. Break down the options on your truck with prices and tell us exactly how you got the dealer to come to that great deal.

    Thanks

    Skip
  • theo888theo888 Member Posts: 6
    My 4x4 CC is equipped as follows:
    A/T, Power Pkg, Utility Pkg, over-rail bedliner, and bed extender. As part of the deal, I had the dealer swap the bedliner for an under-rail model, install the premium CD/Cass player, and paint/install a hard tonneau cover. In essence, my truck has all 3 packages (with stereo swap) less the sunroof which is part of the Sport Pkg, plus the tonneau.

    The MSRP was $24,870. The autobytel.com invoice price for a truck with all the packages was $21,797. From there the deal spun down to $20,438 + my trade ($3,000). After some additional, lengthy negotiation, they dropped to $18,438 + trade. I offered $18,750 + trade and include tonneau installation. They accepted. After doc fees, ect. total price was $18,959 + trade.

    Three key points to the deal: first, I was with my girlfriend when she bought a car from the same salesman a two months prior; second, they let me "test drive" the truck for about a week, during which I put about 600 miles on it, putting them in a position to sell the truck as a demo; and third, when I went back to close the deal, my salesman wasn't there, and they screwed around for an hour and couldn't find any of his paper work, at which point I got decided to leave, and at my girlfriend suggestion, take my trade with me. As I was unloading my stuff from the truck, the GM came out and said they would do the deal at $18,750 + trade.

    So ends the story, and I am now a very happy CC owner.
  • theo888theo888 Member Posts: 6
    My daughter is 7, and my girlfriend's son is 8, and they have plenty of room. Actually, this past weekend, I had the kids and my girlfriend's mom in the back and they made out fine -- short trip though. The only thing I miss is the storage nets that were on the back of the seats in my Pathfinder. They were a good place for the kids to put their coloring stuff and assorted other "essentials".
  • ApexEnv34ApexEnv34 Member Posts: 23
    I had a 97 Nissan pickup new for $11,000. It served me well and was reliable. Since then family has grown and I must find room in my next truck. I decided to give Nissan the first chance since I liked their pickup so much. But for $20,000 to $25,000, the Nissan crew cab is no contest to the Chevy Silverado I am driving now.

    Their prices are comparable, amenities are similar, even their gas consumptions. But the Silverado has v8, much more leg room in the back even for adults, can sit six, yes, six adults, and has a more smooth drive train than the Nissan, and a full size trunk. We all know that Chevy trucks has better resale values than Nissan.

    The only things kept me from going domestic in the past were reliability and workmanship. While it is still too early to say about reliability of my Silverado, I have to admit it's built quality is as good as the Japanese these days, if not better.

    So I hope Japanese truck makers wake up soon, while a once dieheart Japanses fan is sitting in a domestic full size truck and enjoying every second of it.
  • ApexEnv34ApexEnv34 Member Posts: 23
    I had a 97 Nissan pickup new for $11,000. It served me well and was reliable. Since then family has grown and I must find room in my next truck. I decided to give Nissan the first chance since I liked their pickup so much. But for $20,000 to $25,000, the Nissan crew cab is no contest to the Chevy Silverado I am driving now.

    Their prices are comparable, amenities are similar, even their gas consumption. But the Silverado has v8, much more leg room in the back even for adults, can sit six, yes, six adults, and has a more smooth drive train than the Nissan, and a full size trunk. We all know that Chevy trucks has better resale values than Nissan.

    The only things kept me from going domestic in the past were reliability and workmanship. While it is still too early to say about reliability of my Silverado, I have to admit it's built quality is as good as the Japanese these days, if not better.

    So I hope Japanese truck makers wake up soon, while a once diehard Japanses fan is sitting in a domestic full size truck and enjoying every second of it.
  • ApexEnv34ApexEnv34 Member Posts: 23
    Ok, I admit to have left out an important factor: I also had nearly $3,000 GM Card rebate accumulated over the past 5 years, and GM sent me a "royalty coupon" to offer additional $500 or free 5year/60,000mi bumper to bumper. I did decide to put the $500 to good use: a CD changer.

    But seriously, I agree for smaller persons (like my wife), she still likes the feel of our 4runner. Japanese cars are better fitted for smaller sizes.

    But one must admit once they were way ahead of the big three, from innovation, build quality, being trendy to offering good value, now they are behind only because the big three have come back.

    I assume if someone is to buy a truck, trunk space is also important. I just can't see too much use for the Nissan CC's trunk with its size. BTW, my wife also appreciates the high sitting positions in both 4runner and silverado.
  • ApexEnv34ApexEnv34 Member Posts: 23
    BTW, another $600 will get you a v8. You can get below invoice if you know how to work a Chevy dealer. There is also a $500 factory rebate (different from the $500 loyalty offer).
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    I was wondering if any of you has bought or seen the crew cab in blue. I haven't seen one yet and the dealer has located one... its just that once they swap for it you're stuck. So if anyone can describe it I would appreciate it. I feel the chips on the brochure are not a good reference to go by. The actual truck will look different. Thanks
  • theo888theo888 Member Posts: 6
    I've seen a blue 4x4 SE CC and it looks pretty sharp. It was at the same dealership where I bought mine. In fact, it was my truck of choice until I saw the charcoal one a couple of weeks later. In my opinion, the "denim blue" most closely resembles a slate blue. Hope this helps.
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    I read that you had the dealer switch the liner.
    Did the over the rail liner make any marks on the paint? You're description of the blue color sounds like maybe I should drive to the dealer that they are going to swap it from and check it out. Thanks.
  • theo888theo888 Member Posts: 6
    The bed liner swap hasn't occurred yet. I'm waiting for the cover to be delivered. I did check the CC brochure that I have and the blue color chip is darker than the actual color -- about a shade.
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    I went to the swapping dealership today to see the
    truck in person. The color was nice but I'm still
    favoring the Silver Ice as my first choice and the Sand Dune as an alternate. The black ones look great but I don't have the time to put into the truck to keep it looking so nice. I pulled up on the edge of an over the rail liner today and I think it should be OK after removing it. I would remove yours as soon as possible because the longer it's on and the more shaking and vibration the liner may chafe the finish.
    Regards, Robert
  • amraamra Member Posts: 1
    I have a Frontier Reg Cab in Denim Blue. It looks great in the sunlight when clean but don't be surprised if you look at it at night under a little dirt cover and see a purple truck! I really like the Sand Dune color I saw on the Desert Runner. Good luck...
  • navednaved Member Posts: 13
    Folks,

    I am in Houston and got mine for about $300 less than the dealer's invoice. I wanted the 4x4 but the dealer mistakenly got 4x2 SE CC instead. I have it in Sand Dune color, darker color than this would mean clean it all the time - I am not ready for that. I was disappointed first, but all my "trucker" friends told me that I really do not need a 4x4 in TX. Since I am not going to play in mud/snow, I decided to take it. I got all the 3 packages (Power+Utility+Sports) and the bed liner/extender. Almost everyone I showed my truck liked it a lot. So far so good, except I kind of feel it's little underpower. I am not planing on doing speeding on it, so I guess it's not that bad (I kept my old car for speeding - Acura Legend 5 spd!) I would highly recommend this truck over any truck for people under 6'0'' tall. If you are taller than this (wider than normal is another story) go with the Tundra and spend the extra $$$. The things I did not like about Tundra were: 90 degree rear seat, very little leg room, too high to get in/out, rear door can not be opened without the front ones, and (the last but not least) Toyota's bland interior design. I did not like the Dakota at all, except may be for the "initial" quality of the V8 engine. Ford ranger/Toyota Tacoma, I do not think so...

    Good luck for finding the right truck!

    -NH
  • rik6rik6 Member Posts: 2
    I have a 18 ft bass boat. Will the 4X2 tow it ok at highway speeds. I live in Texas and have alot of hills. I was just wondering if that 170 hp was enough.

    Rik6
  • cncmancncman Member Posts: 487
    Check out http://freshalloy.com for the new 2001 crew cab, Looks great!
  • DTKWOKDTKWOK Member Posts: 131
    Thanks for the link cncman! I think the CC looks, different...for lack of a better term. I still wish that they would round off the back of the cab a little more (like the Toyota Double Cab). Nonetheless it's a sharp looking truck.

    Druce
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    Did you swap your bed liner yet?
    I had the dealer today remove the liner from the truck before I would accept delivery and there was a scuff in the paint down both sides of the bed. My truck is black and I know its the worst color for showing scratches but I lifted the liner on a red one and a charcoal one and they both showed the same scuffs. I hope they can polish the scratches out because they are only in the clear coat. Let me know how you made out with this.
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    Let me clarify something the scuffs in the paint are on the top edge of the rail, just over the side which would still be visible when a cap or a tonneau cover is installed.
  • mcholygrailmcholygrail Member Posts: 1
    i was originally shopping for an xterra, but just wasn't into the color choices or the flat black front fascia. so i started to check out the cc and eventually it won me over. i wanted the sand dune se 4x4. i got pre-approved with a credit union and called all eleven dealers here in atlanta. i told everyone of them i wanted to pay $20k. at first they laughed at me, but then the calls started coming back, and by the end of the day i had two good offers: a white se with everything but power and sport pack for 21,200 and a charcoal with power for 21,900. i went to the dealer and went over it with a magnifying glass and found a minor ding on the hood and scratch by the rear bumper and they dropped another hundred. t,t, and t on top, but they vary by state, so...
    i want the front go rhino guard now, and i am thinking of mounting my spare on the roof rack so it doesn't get dirty underneath. its so comfortable, the arm rests are perfect, and its really quiet too. i'm very impressed, and glad i got the grey now too. good luck shoppers!
  • theo888theo888 Member Posts: 6
    No, the dealer hasn't made the swap, yet. I spoke with them last Wednesday, and they said they were expecting it to be delivered sometime this week. I'll have to look a little closer, but I haven't noticed any scuffing on the paint so far. I hear what you are saying and I'm keeping my fingers crossed. My charcoal is not as bad as your black, but it's close. Thanks for the heads-up
  • wlstarwlstar Member Posts: 4
    Is anyone having excessive bed vibration (I mean the truck bed you pervert). My CC bed seems to really shake when going down a ruff road. Have'nt had it back to the dealer yet, they said they have not had any complaints about the bed. Please let me know if you're having the same problem. Thanks.
  • wlstarwlstar Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for the info. I can live with as I really like this truck.
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    I picked up my CC last Thursday and when I got home I was standing behind it and I noticed something odd.The bed of the truck is narrower than the cab. What I also noticed was that the bed was lined up even with the drivers side and
    offset on the passenger side. I took the truck to the dealer and they said that the bed was easy to move and the difference should have been split between the two sides. They said they haven't any idea why there is a difference in width.
  • ccnc4x4ccnc4x4 Member Posts: 5
    Just purchased my Fully Packaged CC 4X4 in Raleigh,
    the dealer in Chapel Hill was not good.
    Would never go there again.
    Dealer in Winston was good, but far away.
    I got mine 200 under invoice.
    I think that I could have gotten 300 more
    off after buying it.
    Of course the other dealer in Chapel Hill
    said that they could have beatten it.
    But they would not do anything over the phone
    where the dealer in Raleigh was very open
    and easy to work with.
    Got the Sand Dune color. We had the Silver,
    but some miles and a scratch, We like the Sand Dune better.

    Went through carpoint.com to get to dealer in Raleigh.
    Autobytell never seemed to come around.
    greenlight.com was my second choice if thing had
    not worked out with carpoint.com.
    Actually sold old vehicle to carmax, they
    were actual trade in value from kbb.com (fair condition.)
    The car was a ford and a nightmare to maintain.
  • casolarocasolaro Member Posts: 4
    http://www.edmund.com/edweb/news/chicago00/new1.html#2

    A few of you have asked about the Tacoma Crew cab. It will be available in the Fall of this year according to a rep at a recent car show I attended. Log on to the address above to see it.
  • navednaved Member Posts: 13
    ccmaybe you are right I also looked at my truck and it's OK on the driver's side but the bed is off on the right hand side. I think this is more of a quality control problem. I hate to see those fancy robots coming up with this kind of job! I will talk to my dealer when I go for my first oil change.
  • navednaved Member Posts: 13
    Folks,

    I am getting very bad gas mileage, roughly 15 MPG (I have about 1300 miles). Although my drive is mainly city, but I do go on highway sometimes. Since I have a 4x2 CC, I thought I will have 18 MPG at least. How is everyone else doing?

    Somebody told me that the gas mileage increase about a mile or 2 per gallon after 3000 miles or so, is that true?
  • solemyasolemya Member Posts: 1
    I too have been disappointed with the gas mileage. I get about 16 around town and about 18 on the road with a 4x4 CC. I drive very carefully but only have 3K miles on the car. The 4x4 has a very low differential ratio that causes some of the problem. Note that I'm turning very high RPMs when cruising at 70 mph--more than 3000. I understand that the low gearing is for towing, but I don't do any of that and would have appreciated an overdrive.
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    I went to the body shop and was told it should be pretty easy to re-align the bed. I was told that
    all that was needed was to loosen the bolts under the bed and push the bed from inside the wheel well and it should move right over. Then retighten and it's done. The sales manager said they don't know why the bed is narrower than the cab, but if you look at any other crew cab the difference should be divided between both sides.
    All it needs to be moved is about 3/8 of an inch.
  • ccmaybeccmaybe Member Posts: 23
    I now have 1300 miles on my 4x4 Crew Cab and this last tank was a mix of city and highway. I got 17 MPG this tankful. I think I will do better after a couple of more tankfuls
  • cerealphreakcerealphreak Member Posts: 2
    I own a 4x2 Crew Cab. My mileage has been GREAT! I now have about 1400 miles; almost all highway miles.

    I drive about 60-120 miles daily (from Montebello, CA to Fullerton, CA; from Fullerton, CA to Santa Ana, CA; and from Santa Ana, CA to Montebello, CA).

    Yes indeed, my mileage is good!!! But there is ONE thing that I am disappointed about: the alignment of my bed with my cab. I looked at my bed BEFORE reading the postings here on this site and discovered that it IS misaligned!!! The dealership will hear from me.
  • navednaved Member Posts: 13
    cerealphreak you mentioned GREAT! but not the number though.

    I have been putting premium only although the manual says I can do regular (87 octane) Does anyone know what should be the best octane/gasmileage ratio? Is anything common between better gas mileage and octane? or why put 93 octane gas versus 87 octane gas? What does the compression ratio have to do with octane level?

    Any help/suggestion appreciated!
  • keaneckeanec Member Posts: 349
    I am not an expert on octane by i have been told by many people that unless you live at height, don't use octane higher than what is in the manual. You are just pissing your money out the door! I have taken that advice and never use higher than 87 octane (i have only owned 1 vehicle where it called for 91; and I used 91) and i have had no problems or pinging!
  • DTKWOKDTKWOK Member Posts: 131
    I agree with keanec that you shouldn't run 91 octane if the manufacturer recommends 87, it's just a waste of money. Octane, as you may or may not know is a rating on how easily the fuel ignites. The higher the number, the less it is prone to pre-detontation.

    Answering your questions:

    Usually a higher compression ratio engine requires a higher octane rating. Why? because the more you compress a fuel/air mixture, the hotter the temperature in the cylinder, thus a greater chance of pre-detontation. That's why cars with turbos, superchargers, and other high perfromance motors need premium fuel.

    There is little if any, difference in gas mileage is using any octane, unless of course your engine is pinging like crazy. I personally use 87 octane but switch to either 89 or 92 if I'm going to tow, drive up a constant grade, and/or drive during a hot day. Anyway hope this helps.

    DTKWOK
    '91 Pathfinder XE
    107K+ miles
  • parlinparlin Member Posts: 4
    Looking for ideas & costs-pro & con on this truck
    THANKS
  • keithinhudsonkeithinhudson Member Posts: 1
    Fellas,
    You may want to try this one before you discredit the use of high octane fuel. I own a nissan 200 with over 100,000 miles, and have run 93 octane in it since day one. I am NOT THROWING my $$ away because I have slightly increased my distributor timing to squeeze that little extra power and mileage that is possible from my engine using 93 octane verses 87. You should be careful not to increase it much, and you will then always be required to burn the better fuel! This adjustment I made with only a 12 mm wrench, my ears, and experience in drag racing. It made the difference from 35 mpg to 45mpg on the highway, and I have MUCH greater offline performance, which was required for the anemic little 1.6 liter in the car. This should work for all vehicles that have a distributor. Simply advance it till it "pings" then back it off till it quits, then just and add a little more for a safety factor for your engine. Remember always use 93 after this or it may "ping" and cause piston wear. Hope this helps some of you with your poor mileage and power problems. If you have no clue what I'm saying, just ask anyone with a hotrod to help you.
  • DTKWOKDTKWOK Member Posts: 131
    Thanks for tip! However, I would be a little leary of trying to do that on the VG30E (also the same as the 3.3L) because a Nissan Specialist has told me that this engine is a hot running engine. I intend to keep my truck for at least 200,000 miles... If you want more power, then go for the exhaust and ignition upgrades, granted it'll probably wouldn't produce as good as results, but I think that'll be "safer". Just my $0.02 .
  • goobagooba Member Posts: 391
    The tip that was given to adjust the timing was a good one. It just does not work well with the current computer controls on the engine, If you try to adjust ther timing out of range the computer will try and compensate and it will not be able to.For the later model vehicles there are companies that sell a chip to change your engine parameters.
  • croy2croy2 Member Posts: 45
    After admiring this truck since 10/99, I finally bought one yesterday. A local dealer in So.California had an add for $2500 off MSRP on all frontiers. He had 20 in stock, including the Sand Dune SE 4x2 that I was after. With this deal, the price was $541 under dealer invoice, so I was real happy. Many dealers in the area won't do any better than invoice plus $1,000.

    My only problem was that I had to take the truck with an over-the-rail bedliner. All 20 trucks in stock had over-the-rail liners and the dealer was not willing to swap at the price that I paid (I really tried). Can the over-the-rail liner be trimmed to allow installation of a tonneau cover??
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