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I would assume that if you want a minivan, then maybe this would fit the bill.
Honda usually benchmarks 3000 rpm for around town use as well. Even their 8000+ rpm engines are tuned to deliver great torque near 3000 rpm. Want an example? Click Here.
The crank dyno is that of the new Integra Type-R engine that redlines at 8500 rpm. Although it develops peak torque at 7000 rpm, it has another peak (and close to the highest peak) somewhere between 2500 and 3000 rpm. There is only 5-7% variation in torque delivery from 2500 rpm to 8000 rpm, just pick the range you are comfortable with.
What planet are you living on?
I guess if someone had four obese passengers on their way to the mall, that would qualify under your "heavy loads" criteria, but that's about it...
I don't see a whole lot of MDXs being sold in the rugged areas of Africa, Australia, etc. I see TLCs, Jackaroos (Troopers), Patrols, Pajeros(monteros) etc. In these parts of the world reliability is key to not being devoured by wild animals if you break down.
-mike
-mike
Interestingly enough, VTM4 was designed by Borg-Warner. The same guys who designed TOD for Isuzu.
With respect to the Trooper, it is a reliable vehicle. That's one of the things that set it apart from the rest of the crowd, back when it was introduced.
-mike
As far as reliability goes, click here to see reliability index for SUVs. Trooper is almost on top, but Rodeo/Passport have got it in red.
That link is to some cheesey charts put up by some no-name guy and no where can I find the critera for the information/charts given. In 1998 the Rodeo did suffer some problems as it was a re-designed vehicle, but previous to that (and in 1992 and 1993 was the highest volume foreign SUV sold in the US)
-mike
-mike
Last night I spoke with a friend from another forum. He's seen the Pilot up close and personal. We are both looking at replacing our CR-Vs with one. His impression was similar to others, but he described the cockpit as being rather simple. No shocker there. I like what I've see in the pictures, but will reserve judgement until I see one in person. Can anyone who has seen it elaborate on the interior?
Jerry,
Bet you thought your announcement got lost in the Isuzu/Windows shuffle, huh? When you do that test drive just be sure and report back to those of us who can't get any closer than a photo right now!
-mike
(you too Mkaye)
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Jerry
http://www.autoweb.com.au/start_/showall_/id_HON/doc_hnd0202112/article.html
So if the other Honda SUV is good enough for the Aussies, I don't see why the Pilot will fare any worse here in the states.
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There has been some discussion about 16" wheels. I have read that there is 8" of ground clearance, which is the same as the MDX, which has 17" wheels. Therefore, I am of the opinion that the Pilot must also have 17" wheels. Does anyone else know anything different?
The 16" measure refers to the size of the rims. Many folks have done an upgrade they call, "plus one" Increasing the size of the rim and decreasing the profile of the rubber. The end result is a tire that is the same diameter.
Jerry
When the Pilot actually arrives, I'm sure a more detailed brochure will accompany its debut.
Bob
The shift lites are in a "neat" location on the edge of the speedometer. They will be easy to see at a glance.
Bob
Are 31X10.5 15 inch tires available?
Any larger? Is there a "sport" package which has these?
Anybody know?
Why would you even consider such an "off-road" tire size? If you're planning to do any serious off-road work, there are a number of much better off-road vehicles than the Pilot to choose from, and they all have 2-speed transfer cases, which the Pilot doesn't have.
Bob
Line of Pilots
It just so happens that the LX models were wearing the Bridgestone's. Didn't check all of them.
Third row was what I expected. About the same as the MDX. I have a pic of me sitting in the backseat. The vehicle is about the same size exterior-wise. Send me a message and I'll give more details.
In any case, they look good in the photo.
Bob
I am curious for your opinion on which color looks best on the Pilot. On the MDX, the silver is rather plain, sometimes washed out looking. I assume it is the same silver on the Pilot. How does it look on the Pilot? Also, did you see a white one? How does it look?
In your opinion, in what color does the Pilot look its best?
Thanks again
Jdlynch2 - I'm a fan of the silver. Looking at the Line of Pilots picture, you see almost the full range. From left to right:
Greenish/Silver (only see the nose)
Plain Silver
Two Reds (I liked the red, too)
Another Silver
Two Blacks
Another Greenish/Silver
Look way in the background, against the building, and you'll the back of a white one. That's the vehicle I got to climb around in. It looks good.
I assume that the greenish silver is the color called "sage". I'm not big fan of that one. You can see it contrasted in the other picture where the black LX is parked in front of it.
One general remark. The EX with body colored cladding looks much better than the LX with matt black. The rub strips are rather wide and divide the upper and lower door panels.
Windows: I couldn't help but notice that the LX models pictured did not have tinted windows. Do the EX's? Is this a standard difference between trim levels or an option? It's very important to me since I have kids. Thanks for any info.
ps. You're probably right about the Havesu Blue. It just looked more like a green to me.
So if my memory about the stats is correct, does anyone have a better explanation?
And another thanks to varmit for the pics...
-mike
Are you sure it is not the simple promotional one everyone already has? Does not tell you much.