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either way, not an option for us. we don't really care about being the first on the block to have one, but we are required to turn in our lease vehicle (today!), so we are low on options.
I think there are around..... OMG! I don't know how many other options!!!!
Does anyone know how many other SUV's there are that are in the same price range as the Pilot?
I'm not even going to try to guess.
because i have a 2-year-old & another child on the way, decided that i would go with honda for now & save the "luxury" vehicle for when i won't be cleaning goldfish crackers out of the seats.
thanks for your concern though...
The 6-CD chnager is an accessory.
I've been tracking this car for a while, I know there will be a black color this year, but haven't heard of blue color for this car. So I said "BL" must stand for "BLack". He said he double checked with his manager, who'd gone to test drive the car, confirmed there's a blue color.
Anyone knows that Honda makes a blue pilot for 2003 model?
light blue (hint of minty green)...you'll either love it or hate it (don't buy it sight unseen)
http://pilot.honda.com/overview.asp?Section=Exterior
Gotta get the price down somehow.
I'm surprised the rails aren't available as an accessory.
Oh well ... you can probably get better aftermarket racks anyway!
The LX is not sold in Canada.
I got mine, late, but I got it.
On the roof rails:
I thought I had seen something that said the LX could get the roof rails as an accessory too, while the EX came with them, and you had to add cross-members as an accessory.
However, the pilot.honda.com website, which seems to be accurate and up-to-date, says under "Specifications" that the roof rails are standard on the EX, and not available on the LX (if it was an accessory, the site indicates accessory). Go figure!
Meanwhile, www.collegehillshonda.com, which has been somewhat accurate but not totally so, still lists the roof rails with crossbars as an accessory for the LX, at $223.75 (MSRP of $299). The crossbars alone are there for the EX.
It's possible the Honda site is wrong. Someone here listed from the accessory catalog and it also listed "roof rack."
Wait a sec -- I get it:
The "roof rails" are not available as an accessory for the LX, as the website says.
However, you can buy as an accessory the "roof rack," which includes the roof rails and cross members. That's why we see the roof rack listed as an accessory.
Aha!
I can just picture the Honda product planning person standing up in the conference room, and saying: "Well, the MDX has ten cup holders ... so the Pilot can't possibly have that many! Okay, let's make it just nine in the EX! That'll make the luxury-oriented folks want the MDX, and the practical-value-oriented folks buy the EX!"
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5771
FYI, this isn't a solicitation but a recommendation. A lot of MDX owners have bought accessories from www.hondacuraworld.com and are very happy with Tim. Not only are his prices good (and he doesn't rip you off with high shipping charges), but he goes the extra mile and more for his customers. Great guy.
You can be sure people will attempt to secure luggage without the costly crossbars only to the detriment of surrounding vehicles. Sounds like a real liability issue for Honda.
To me, selling a roof rack without crossbars is like selling a car without a steering wheel.`
-mike
Next week they might have a Buick Rendevous in the driveway! And it'll be premium priced, because a Trailblazer, a Liberty, or an Explorer isn't refined enough, correctomundo?
Can we install a bridge? We've already got a troll to go under it, we just need the bridge.
...actually avoid the bridges, there are a couple dealers just outside of the bay area that do have scruples and sell for not a penny more than MSRP...and there lists are not that long (at least until others find them)
Invoice Pricing:
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/new/pilot/pilot03price.htm
Accord Coupe:
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/funstuff/03coupesm.jpg
-mike
Still a ripoff. I told him that I got to go (hang up).
In other news, check out our First Drive: 2003 Honda Pilot.
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It has a glaring factual error or two. E.g. they said Honda is not offering a reverse backup system, when the accessory has been listed for months now on sites like www.collegehillshonda.com. Also says that a 6-dish CD changer isn't available, when it is obviously available as an DIO accessory (though I suppose technically it's not offered in a trim level -- but they say a rear view camera is available and that's an accessory too).
"Not as fun to drive" is of course subjective, but this is a ~4,400lb vehicle with relatively soft suspension tuning and tires that should be a bit bigger. As it says, the MDX is more sportier to drive (it is, though it's still not an X5 -- which isn't a bad thing given the X5's penalties for its great-for-an-SUV handling).
The Pilot should have a somewhat more plush ride than the MDX, the usual tradeoff versus handling. And Honda probably thought the market for a family SUV would give up that handling for the more cushy ride.
-mike
The seat does fold 60/40. And both parts of the second row seat slide forward for access, unlike the MDX where only the 40% portion slides forward. It is currently unknown if the second row can stay slid forward to allow for more legroom for the third row.
Frankly, the MDX third row is pretty cramped, okay for short hops for adults, but really best for children. Since the Pilot's third row is also pinched in between the wheel wells, three adults in the back had better be friendly ones. Even Honda says the 3-seating position is mostly for kids.
IMHO, there won't be 8-passenger capacity in the 2003 MDX. If only for the marketing images that Honda wants to use to artificially differentiate the vehicles. E.g. the Pilot as the 8-passenger "family vehicle" while the MDX is for "luxury/sport" buyers. I think Acura will eschew making the MDX a "family hauler" in image and focus on adding items chosen from a list that may or may not include a larger and more powerful engine, xenon HID headlamps, VSA, etc.
Anyway my dealer will have "at least one" availble for test drives this weekend, but they have been told by Honda not to sell any until the "official" 6/3/02 release date.
* Roof rails have a 150 lb. capacity, which is very good.
• Roof rails are unavailable on the LX—even as an option, which is bad. In fact, it's really DUMB!
• Honda has really structured the option packages so that the good stuff is only available on the top-of-the-line EX (with leather) models—also dumb.
• No moonroof, also dumb.
From what I've seen, I prefer the LX model, but would want (optional) stuff only found on the EX-leather models.
Bob
Roof rails = rails only, standard on EX, can't buy as accessory for LX.
Roof cross members = accessory for EX, can't buy as accessory for LX, because ...
Roof rack = rails + cross members, for the LX.
At least that's the theory. I've seen listings of accessories and there is indeed a "roof rack" available for the LX. And it includes the rails and cross members.
Bob