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when you have had so much trouble with it. I have been dealing with a fleet mgr at Gus Johnson ford in Spokane and he told me there is only 240.00 difference in the cost between the 99 & 2000 I can take my pick. I would say when they buy it back find a dealer who will sell for 100-200 over cost and buy that way.
shimmie: well it depends where it's coming from
rear wheels and back-end bounce can be caused by out-o-balance, difference in air pressure, flat spot on tires (bad problem on pickups because of rear wheel lockup before anti-lock brakes), and a remote chance could be if you have a limited slip axle, try changing the oil and make sure you use a LS rated oil or add the friction modifier recommended by our friends at Ford. also as a tire shop manager for 11 years, even the best tires have to be re-balanced after 1500 miles or so, centrifugal force reshapes the radial bands and changes the balance.
What does anyone think about this price? I need to get over visualizing myself as a lamb sitting on a stool with someone preparing to shear. Basic rookie at this stuff.
I am waiting on a Y2K F-150, SC, SB, 2WD, XLT. Anyone know a source for nerf bar type running boards, and tonneau (hard, ie, Leer) covers. Have had a price of 199 for the nerf's and 599 for the leer tonneau installed from a local dealer. Can anyone offer advice as to whether these are good deals?
Thanks,
Ed
So, coming up with an invoice price of $19,084, do I add the following options I want: $680 (5.4 v8), $931 (auto trans), $340 (tow pkg), $125 (slid rear wind).
This comes to $21,403. Is that how you figure this? Is that figure the invoice price and then I negotiate with the dealer for "how much over invoice".
Any comments greatly appreciated!
Yes the lower number is the invoice price, don't forget to add $640 for shipping,(I have heard it is going up to $665, but haven't confirmed) that is the same for MSRP and Invoice. You must be looking at a 4X2 for a base price of $19,084 because the 4X4 base is $22,322. You might want to check out www.driveoff.com Don't worry you don't have to buy, but you can go in their autolibrary,
select your vehicle, add the options you want and then print out a window sticker that will show MSRP and Invoice prices plus everything you will get on the truck including standard equipment. Pretty neat, and you can juggle options around etc. Once you have decided on exactly what you want,looks like you have, and got your invoice price, head for a dealer and talk to the Fleet manager (you will do better there). Some folks are sending faxes to several Fleet Departments, telling them what they want, and what the dealer will sell it to them for, then bounce one off the other. Hope this helps, Good Luck and let us know how you make out. What part of the country do you live in? If you are in the Colorado area I can put you in touch with a Fleet guy at Courtesy Ford in Denver who will treat you right.
1- I never answered your basic question- Yes add the prices of the options to the base price of the truck, plus shipping,to get total price. The base price of the truck only includes standard equipment.
2- I gave you the wrong URL for driveoff.com, it is http://driveoff.com sorry for the confusion
I came up with an Invoice for your truck $22,437.
I assumed it was a 4X2. The biggest difference I see in you numbers versus mine is you did not include $665 Destination Charge, and the 5.4L in the 4X2 Invoice is $1318, not $680, that is the price for that engine in the 4X4. Don't forget the
"XLT Preferred Equipment Package",it is $1003 Invoice, then they disount it $1003, so it's free!! Code 507A includes Air and 4 wheel ABS Discs I think. Oh Yes, MSRP was $25370. Hope I have helped and not confused
thx,
Abucs
Suggested Retail Price) really means. When trying to educate yourself when it comes to buying a new Ford XLT, all the talk is the % over invoice price. That is the way to go, I'm sure.
So what about the MSRP? Why is it on the car. Is it an inflated price to "nail" people who are unaware? Is it a sham? Is it tantamount to the WWWF (World Wide Wrestling Federation)?
This dealer keeps referring to MSRP, even though invoice price has been discussed.
Can anyone shed any light (bottom line stuff) on this? Tx.
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the two automatic transmissions, anyway?
MSRP is what the dealer WOULD like to get for the vehicle, but in most cases doesn't. The exception is an extremely popular vehicle that is hard to get, the old "supply and demand". I have heard the new Excursion at some dealers is selling for MSRP PLUS $4000!!! Don't know that for a fact though.
Remember hearing when the redesigned Vett came out a few years ago they were selling for above MSRP. All it is to me is a ref point, I always start at Invoice and go from there. My dealer called me today and told me my y2k F-150, XLT Supercab, Sport 4X4 has been built and should be delivered in a week. I am paying Invoice.
Cajun17 Don't know the real difference in the two transmissions, but would guess the one for the 5.4L is beefier to handle the increased torque. Just a guess. By the way I know they built one Sport 4X4, MINE, dealer called today, told me it was built, should see it in a few days. Good Luck to you folks
I've been casually looking at trucks for about 3 years now and started shopping and looking intensely back in May. Edmunds.com has been a huge help with the invoice prices and the topic list. Thank you Edmunds!
4x4 and King Cab were my main requirements. The more accessories the better.
I'm particular to Fords but I kept an open mind when shopping. I test drove Chevy, Dodge and Fords.
I was impressed with the gadgets and gizmos in the Chevy, plus engine power and a very roomy back seat for a King Cab. But leaned away from the Chevy because the lack of the 4th door. If it had a 4th door I just might have bought it.
The Dodge I test drove was really nice. Loaded with everything that I wanted. Very roomy interior too. My biggest concern with the Dodge was dependability. I've heard bad things. My neighbor has one and his fuel pump went dead at 60K. The mechanic that fixed it said all Dodges fuel pumps die at 60K. They had to remove the fuel tank to install the fuel pump. Total cost was around $800.00.
Both the Chevy and Dodge had larger interiors than the F-150. Chevy's color selection was much better than Ford or Dodge. Chevy and Dodge had better cupholders. But who really cares about cupholders.
Sunday I bought a 2000 F-150 XLT Supercab 4x4. Loaded! Harvest Gold (hides the dirt) Keyless entry, split bench w/pwr drvrs seat, 5.4 V8, 3.55 LS, Towing Group III, Off Road package, cab steps and more. I got it for $300 over invoice. This is my first truck and I'm a happy man!
The invoice on Edmunds was right on the money. I missed something in my calculations so there was about $100 difference from the dealers invoice. I called the dealer on the phone and asked who the manager was that day (Sunday). I found the truck that I wanted on a Sat. night. I walked in Sunday morning and showed the Manager Edmunds.com printout and what I calculated to be the invoice and offered $300 over it. He test drove my trade-in and talked me down a couple of hundred on my trade. Which I figured he would do anyway so I had asked high on my trade. And that was it. Pretty painless.
Once again, Thank you Edmunds and all those people who have posted useful info here!
Congratulations on one fine truck!!!
The differences between the two are pretty simple: 4 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive. The two wheel drive is rear wheel driven. You are correct, the 4x4 sits a bit higher and probably has a stiffer suspension up front. The 4x4 is going to be heavier: a little less gas mileage. But depending on where you live, in the winter, i would not want a 4x2...personally i would not even consider a 4x2 truck...i like to do a bit of offroading, so the 4x4 gets you out of places 4x2 might not. But, if you are looking to keep the price low, you will save on the 4x2. I just got my 2000 F150 XLT; 5.4L, 4x4, 3.55LS, off road package, tow package, supercab. I absolutely love it.
If you go with the 4x2, GET THE LIMITED SLIP!! I can't stress that enough. Without it, you will always be stuck. If you try to drive up a 2% grade of wet grass, you will not move an inch. So consider that when you purchase.
Good luck!
-pizzadude
All BS I think. If UPS can keep up with a $5.00 package at every stop, why can't Ford keep up with a $25k truck.
Hope this helps out..anymore detailed questions, i'll be happy to share! By the way, i only have 140 miles on the truck, but so far it's very cool...it sure is a CHVYKLR as far as I'm concerned!
That sounds like a pretty good deal..if 23600 is the number he gave you, I'd offer him 22500 and tell him to include tax, title, and tags in there. If not, it still sounds like a very fair price...but like you said, you probably could get a '00 for that if you find the right dealer. I say if you can't find a dealer to come close to invoice on a '00, then go with that 23K deal.
Good luck!!
Just sold my 88 Dakota and picked up my first f150. WOW! a lot has changed in 12 years. I shopped all brands over past 6 mo. and chose Ford because I could set it up the way I wanted and not pay for what I don't use. Ordered 9/1, drove it home 10/23. 2000 XL SC 4x4 4.6L Deep Wedgewood Blue...Options= rear slider, auto. trans., vinyl bench. Hey, I know it,s REAL basic but that,s all I need! Runs GREAT, looks GREAT, holds the road and my backside just fine. Wipes out clean after work and keeps it,s shine! 300 over invoice and 53 days....Right on time!
Buying off the lot will be tuff to get at invoice for a 00. Should be easy for a 99 but probably not many left. Like the pizzadude I was too picky and special ordered mine. EVERY dealer near me would special order at invoice. 00's are filling up the lots around here, guess they aren't "Dealing" yet. (Atlanta)
I have never purchased one myself so can't tell how good they are when you need it, proably like most everything else, some good some not. I have leased for the past several years so I am never past the factory warranty, but that isn't for everyone either. Good Luck