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I always move over and slow down because I watch too many Cops episodes where someone jumps out of the car and runs or pulls out quickly to escape the officer...
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
http://www.flixya.com/police-officer-hit-by-car
Now that is funny! That is vindication in and of itself! :P
Its still in town, do you need it? I'll be picking it up probably in the next few days, we can stick the car on and move it if you want. I'll have to bring the ramps in, they are here at the house. Just say the word and its done, not a problem, anything for a fellow Edmunds Alaskan!
I would say that living in Sunnyvale is much more safe than Oakland.
My wife and family lived in East Oakland from 1964 until 1969 until we could move out and purchase a residence in another city.
We always had to be vigilant as my patrol car usually was parked out front at dinner time. Our boxer dog caught a man climbing in our bedroom window one night. I had a "talk" with him and he then went to jail, (and did not collect $ 200 and pass Go).
I was initially needing a job as we were financially needy in 1965, so I located the job that paid the most $$, which was Berkeley Police Officer. Then I went on to the CHP.
I understand your concerns with being pulled over and "suspiciously observed". Was it at night, or daytime?
When I worked CHP Oakland, I would (legally) find, on an average, about 1 concealed weapon every month over a period of about four years. Usually at night.
I enjoy the members here as I too get angry at the actions of some discourteous drivers and seemingly lack of common sense by many.
I hope all of us stay safe and continue to drive safely.
Good luck to all and drive safe!!
jensad
I would have enjoyed listening to this "talk", better yet I would have enjoyed watching it more.
Probably a guy strung out on drugs, not knowing where he was, just looking for money for his habit, right?
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I'm missing something. I would think the patrol car would be a huge deterrent to anything happening to family or household. Not to mention the bulldog.
It will probably have to be pulled onto the trailer with a come-along as the driver side tires are both flat w/ broken beads (would probably slip too much on the ramps), but we might be able to drive it up there without too much difficulty. I can bring a come-along and straps, though I do not have any chains or binders, and only one heavy duty ratcheting cargo strap to secure it. It is about 14 miles from there to my house.
Oh.... and I guess I should confirm with my wife that we should recover it..... What was that term snakeweasel used again?
Being a Subaru it should get up the ramps ok as far as clearance goes, that was a big problem with loading the Sebring, NO ground clearance at all.
Anyway, drop me an email and we'll work out the details, probably will be Thursday, that's when I was pretty much planning on coming to town. I don't do cold weather stuff.
:mad:
I should have stated that differently. When my patrol car was out front of our rented house in Oakland, I was having dinner with my family.
However when I left in my patrol car, my family was left alone in a high crime area. (Its much worse today) And I fear for my family's safety, so we saved enough money, moved, and bought a house in a different community.
And yes when the care was in front of our house, it was indeed a deterrent.
I hope this helps clarify what I meant to say.
Good luck to all and safe driving.
jensad
It was night, hence them bugging me about a taillight being out
I know police have to watch out for lunatics with concealed weapons, but what really got me is the sheer number of patrol cars it took to inform me I had a taillight out. People passing by probably thought I was some most-wanted-list criminal who had finally been apprehended. The whole thing makes for an amusing story.
Another time in Dublin/Pleasanton, I was with somebody walking to my car at night. I was parked in a small park near his suburban neighborhood because road work had nullified any on-street parking for a couple days. We were stopped and verbally assaulted (literally) by an officer who apparently considered us a great threat to the sanctity of the neighborhood (even though my friend LIVED right down the street and had the documentation to prove it).
Dublin/Pleasanton is just one of those little cities where the police truly have nothing better to do, and some of them -- the "bad apples" -- will go out of their way to flex their authoritative muscle at people who are just innocently passing through.
I never had such experiences in Oakland. I felt there was a higher degree of implicit mutual respect between me (the essentially law-abiding citizen) and the police.
Power does corrupt, so it's not surprising that SOME people, when given a gun and a badge, will abuse that power. I have that much more respect for those who don't, and who truly do make a positive difference.
To be absolutely clear, I have no problem with slowing down, changing lanes, or doing anything to make the job of a trooper safer!!!
I just hate it when people can't figure out what's happening way ahead of time. Any cop car with full lights a blazin' is a very very hard thing to not see from a long ways away, on a highway at least.
Anyway, here is a new(er) one:
Why do many people drive in private parking lots like there are no rules? Backing your car out without looking in a convienence store parking lot seems like normal practice.
Yesterday, I was at a Quick Trip (convenience store). The gas pumps are directly behind and parallel to the main parking areas. When I left, I checked for traffic, the coast is clear. I start backing up, and realize that the minivan at the pump directly behind me is pulling out, and a minor collision is avoided. However, the minivan did not have it's lights on! This was at night, by the way.
"Power does corrupt, so it's not surprising that SOME people, when given a gun and a badge, will abuse that power. I have that much more respect for those who don't, and who truly do make a positive difference"
Well said. I regret that you have had to experience the negatives of some individuals in law enforcement. And I greatly appreciated Oakland Police members when I worked in that area.
Sorry if I got something started. I did not intend to.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
Keep in mind that when a baseball player hits .400, which is HUGE, that means he has failed utterly 6/10 times.
I have gone on a few ride alongs, in one city that you mentioned, actually. In one incident, we got on NB highway 880 and passed a front bumper in the left shoulder meridian. To my eye, yup debris there, but just another: wonder why that is there question. Upshot NO big deal. So we lined up to join a stop at a gas station on a possible DUI. (don't know the codes, I am a "civilian") And you will never guess the bumper on the highway seemed to be the same color as the car that was stopped and was coincidently missing a ..... bumper!!!??? So we got out to recon the scene. How many cars were there, at least 4. I actually went up to the person who was the driver. I have to say to look at her, talk to her, even smell her, etc., I would NOT make out her to be under the influence. Yet she failed the sobriety test. So hey no big deal, Just another Friday might DUI stop. But how the bumper got to be in the left meridian was she had hit, (rear ended )the car in front of her and took off running (hit and run). The victim got the license plate and make of the fleeing car. We got the call through 911 and that of course as you probably know goes through the CHP at some remote location. We put 1 plus one together and .... So how many of these would you have gotten right if one happened on the scene? I missed that she was three sheets to the wind.
Another involved weapons. I am combat trained,but truly that was 31-33 years ago. In the context of the ride along I had ZERO expectation of backing up an officer. So again I am in the front passenger seat of the patrol cruiser and as you know the shot gun is mounted in a bracket. We stop a guy for not stopping for a red light before making a right hand turn. The officer I am riding with approaches his passengers side as I open the patrol cars passenger door. The guy literally LEAPS out of the car. In a split second it looks to me like he has a firearm. With no looking, no training, no nada, I had that Remington 870 shot gun out and pointed in his direction covering the officers flank. Turns out he was one of those "armed" guards. He did get the ticket for blowing the red light.
As far as I'm concerned, you didn't "get something started." As I said, I value having your perspective as part of this forum. I was just going off on police who abuse their power, and the somewhat over-the-top presence of law enforcement in certain municipalities where a lower crime rate seems to leave them with "less to do."
Curiously, Sunnyvale is as whitewashed a suburban community as any, but it doesn't seem to have the Dublin/Pleasanton and Milpitas problem. Who knows. But I do still admire the courage of officers who work places like certain parts of Oakland.
Ruking1,
I know that the way a person comes across can affect an officer's reaction, but I guarantee there was nothing untoward or threatening about my body language. And as politically incorrect (and unfortunate) as it may be, I'm sure demographics play a certain role in police expectations in certain communities. And I am a fairly innocuous-looking-and-dressed mid-20's white male who speaks fairly quietly and articulately. In this particular instance, I think the officer was just looking for an excuse to bully somebody, sadly.
But anyway, I've taken us far enough off-topic for now, so, back to idiot drivers
I've found that my tolerance for unsignaled lane changes seems to go with the lunar cycle. People who do it directly in front of me, however, are guaranteed a horn blast. It happened several times today. Of course. It wouldn't be California otherwise...
As is often the case, the rightmost lane leading to the 101/92 junction was moving a little slowly today, and there was a long line of vehicles on top of each other like ducklings following mommy across the road. As is also often the case, this left me no choice -- since I needed to exit in another couple miles -- but to randomly pick two cars to squeeze between, with what felt like inches to spare. (Maybe in reality it was an extra car-length or so.)
Fortunately the tailgaters didn't have the audacity to beep at me, because it's their problem for not leaving room -- not my problem for squeezing in. And yes, I used my turn signal.
It probably really fries people's hides when I (a) have to squeeze in, and then (b) immediately let a safe-size distance open in front of me. But hey, I don't want to be the one who rear-ends somebody when the brake lights come on unexpectedly.
Reaffirms my belief that tailgating spawns a domino effect of other road problems, beyond just the safety issue itself.
Saw one or two inconsiderate drivers as I was walking out the front door of a large food store (Jewel) recently. The front of the store faces south and there are three traffic lanes going east/west in front of store. The lane nearest to store is westbound, but marked for "loading/unloading" only. The next lane is westbound for through parking lot traffic. The last lane is eastbound for through parking lot traffic.
I stopped just outside door with bag of groceries because I saw out of peripheral vision to the left, 2 vehicles approaching in westbound lanes - one in "loading" lane and other in through lane. I was also scanning to right to see if any east bound cars coming. My attention was divided. The vehicle in through west lane was a Jeep SUV and it stopped to let out a passenger. Apparently, the passenger opened the right front door and this door is then apparently hit by a newer Chevy Impala driving west in the "loading" lane. The door of the Jeep knocks off the mirror of the Impala. I heard the hit and the mirror crashing on the pavement. Driver of Impala stops car, gets out and starts yelling. I calmly walk away because while I deduced that the Jeep door made contact with the mirror on the Impala, I did not actually see/witness this event. Was the Impala driver impatient to stand and wait behind the Jeep and drove around the right side of the Impala? I couldn't say.
So, who is wrong? One or both of the drivers.
I would say both. The Jeep should have pulled over into the loading and unloading lane to let off the passenger. The Chevy should have never used the loading and unloading to pass another car. But I would say that the Chevy would me more wrong than the Jeep, the Jeep was inconsiderate but the Chevy was reckless.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Regardless of who is wrong, opening a door without looking first is one of the dumbest things one can do in a car, especially when the vehicle is not parked at the side (i.e. with no lanes, for loading or otherwise, on that side of the vehicle).
I'm just waiting for the day when I'm driving down a city street at night with a row of cars parked to the right, and I'm driving as far to the left as possible within the constraints of the lane, but I can't see inside the parked cars because it's dark, and somebody throws his door open carelessly right in front of me. Judging from how often people do this, it's only a matter of time (and timing) until I take somebody's door off at the expense of my bumper. I will not be thrilled.
Anyway, I wait until I crest a hill to hit the brights cuz I don't want to blind someone. Just as I'm about to flick the switch, I notice something out of the corner of my eye. Sure enough, it's a deer. I slammed on the brakes, and that was enough to scare the deer into bolting away.
O.K., no big deal, other than flashbacks to when I actually hit a deer...
So about a mile later, I come up on a Dodge Minivan. The driver is a white knuckler, and wont go more than twenty. The road has curves, but a bone stock Model-T would have no problem, especially considering that we are far past the sticks. The S/L is 35.
If you were in the car with me, I think you would realize this driver isn't concerned about collisions with wild animals, as he/she is apparently more worried about flipping the van and dieing a fiery death...
Really, not so much inconsiderate as just downright annoying.
Anyhoo, just a blip on the radar screen, but wow, just wow...
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Back when I used to deliver pizzas, I'd estimate that I had at least one close call in the parking lot per night. And once I actually got t-boned, when a teenager ran a stop sign and popped my '86 Monte Carlo on the passenger side hard enough to bend the A-pillar and crack the windshield!
I'd say that the biggest problem I encountered was people cutting across the parking lot instead of driving up and down the aisles like they're supposed to. One time, I almost scored an '87-91 Camry with my '68 Dart, when the driver was coming down the next aisle to the left of me, swung into the parking spaces that were between our two aisles. But instead of parking, he just drove straight through and almost into me! Basically, he was just trying to cut through so he could go up my aisle, but acted like I wasn't even there. I laid into the horn and swerved a bit to keep from hitting him, and then he pulled out behind me. I put on my turn signal to turn left into a parking spot, and as I started to turn in the SOB suddenly tried to cut around me! At that point I just stopped, blocking the aisle, and got out of the car. I asked him, in a not so nice tone of voice, if he realized how close he came to buying me a new car. He said that he was sorry, but when I blew the horn he thought I was just being a jerk, and that's why he tried to pass me. Umm, what is wrong with this freakin picture?!
Another time I almost got hit by a woman in one of those GM dustbuster minivans in a similar maneuver. This instance was at night. I laid into the horn to let her know that she was dangerously close to buying me a new car, and then she got pissed, got behind me, and put her high-beams on me. I was on my way back to the store at this point, but instead of parking I drove up the aisle, turned right in front of the shopping plaza, and sure enough, she kept following me, with her high beams on. As we kept driving, I pulled off my shirt that said "Little Caesar's" on it. I figured hey, no sense in giving them the kind of advertising that may ensue of what I was about to do.
Finally, we got up in front of a grocery store and I just stopped the car right in the middle of the road, so that she couldn't get around on either side. Then I got out of the car and just started hollering and cussing her out and asking what the hell her problem was. She got scared and threw it into reverse, backed up, and turned down an aisle.
I swear, I don't know what goes through people's minds sometimes. If you're going to go through the effort to antagonize and harrass someone like she did, you'd better be damned ready to face the consequences. Hell, for all she knew, I could've been some deranged psycho with a gun! :surprise:
Another problem I often had was people going the wrong way up those narrow one-way aisles. The mall where Little Caesar's was didn't have them, but when I switched to Papa John's, they did.
There was a Hair Cuttery next door to the Papa John's, and we had a chronic problem of people parking in the aisle, sometimes blocking in the drivers' cars, and running in there for "just a second". It was annoying as hell because when we had to go in there to tell them to move it, they'd get an attitude like we were disturbing them. Most of the time it was somebody's boyfriend or girlfriend just coming up to visit them and hang out.
From the way she described it, the deer must've run into the side of his car and somehow gotten underneath it, and it knocked something loose, so it's not safe to drive. This is actually the second time he's had a deer collision. About 3 years ago he hit a deer about a mile from home. Did $4800+ worth of damage to his car and left it undrivable, as it broke the radiator and all the fluid drained out. Also pushed the fender back into the door, jamming it, so he had to go out the passenger side.
Before this, I was going about the SL on a bare-to-icy stretch, only car on the road, in the right lane. The remains of an Astro van comes up behind me and gets really close to me. I gradually slow down even more, but he won't pass. We both get behind the woman in the Pilot, and he wouldn't pass her either! I hope she ended up getting him stuck. If you're going to tailgate, at least have the guts to pass.
And then we have the slow drivers on bare roads. I am not talking wet or black ice...but perfectly dry bare grey road surfaces, where these meek morons will go half the SL for no reason (because there is snow on a side street 3 miles away). People from Minnesota or Michigan would go insane here.
Hahaha.... who's parking lot were you in, anyway? Yield to Owner.
f you're going to go through the effort to antagonize and harrass someone like she did, you'd better be damned ready to face the consequences. Hell, for all she knew, I could've been some deranged psycho with a gun!
The car you were driving should have been a good clue to that! :P
The ones that baffle me are the drivers who are going down the "main drive," typically between the building and the parking area, and are 3, 4, maybe more isles away, but speed up, lay on the horn, and bright anyone who dares pull out from an isle ahead. Or, those that honk and/or fail to stop for pedestrians who cross in front of them. :confuse:
Each of my two sons have hit a deer and they (sons) had the right-of-way but their insurance still had to pay for the damages.
That's when I found out that no deer have insurance, I guess they're such bad drivers nobody will cover them. :surprise:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I was in far reaches of Cincy on I75 and a heavy feeder ramp comes on full of cars. I move over to the third lane so the merging wouldn't slow me down below 65-both right lanes get people jumping into them from the ramping.
A white little sporty car comes right up on my rear bumper as if I'd pulled over in front of a policecar with its lights on. He stayed right there. I was planning to move back over as soon as I moved past the clumping.
But he was so insistent on a Saturday morning that I slowed down so I could pull over into the space behind the box truck that was in the middle lane.
I hope he and his girl friend got to the emergency on time. I notice these left lane dominators sometimes have sporty looking cars. But his NSX left me unimpressed. What's wrong with these people mentally that they think they have to be so dominating?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
My seat of pants experience is that left lane dominators that are ahead not behind, are not usually sporty, sports type or enthusiast cars. Most usually it is just a minivan or a nondescript sedan. So many of these dominators, or LLCs, seem to be in a trance if you take a quick look at them when you are passing on the right. Lots of times they are holding up a long line of traffic and are oblivious to everything around them. What is maddening on 2-lane (each way) interstates is when they drive at about the same speed as the right lane and there is a long line of traffic behind them. Or, they might go 1 mph faster than right lane which is loaded up with semis. Might take many miles to find an interval in right lane to get around these jerks.
You are talking about LLCs, left lane cruisers.
This NSX had a low scooped front. If I had brake checked him he would have run right up under the rear of our full-sized car. I guess he was trying to impress the girl with him with his driving expertise. This was all at a heavy area for the 3-lane portion which in 0.7 miles opens up to 4 lanes after another somewhat heavy onramp.
I just wonder what he's trying to compensate for with his aggression? I've noticed BMWs and Mercedes drivers in the same stretch are more often than not willing to back off to wait until a slot opens in the middle lane for the person to slip into. They don't seem to have a deficiency in their driving personality.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I find myself passing on the right more than I've noticed before. A lot of local LLCs seem to get over there and just space out in low traffic, so it's easy.
One good thing about the bad weather is that once it hits, traffic volumes evaporate. I've had a couple nice commutes lately, so many less stepford wife SUVs to dodge.
When coming upon a LLC, I remember the farmer's advice.
It's a lot easier to plow around the stumps.
Sorry, was not aware of term, "left lane dominator". Maybe I misunderstood.
I think most of us, and I believe you too, do get out of the way (as soon as open interval in right lane) if we are in left lane passing semis on right (as example) and someone coming up from rear in left lane. Afer I move over, they just keep going and are out of view within couple/few minutes. I would not call that dominating. I will just get back into left lane when clear and continue passing semis. I have not been dominated. If I don't move over to right when someone is coming up on my mirror, then maybe I would be inconsiderate. I try to anticipate them well in advance of when they would be on my bumper and am already moved over most of the time.
It sounds like the deer pretty much totalled out the vehicle. Was your uncle alright?
I have seen deer and horses total out vehicles when they run across the freeway and rural highways and say good bye to the vehicle. And usually there are injuries to the innocent drivers/passengers.
Good luck to all
jensad
I hope your boys are uninjured. Maybe the states should require deers and horses to get drivers licenses. ha ha.
I remember I was driving my 72 toyota station wagon with my family in the car, and we hit a large dog. We all were very sad and the front end of the car was gone. We tried to save the dog but ufortunately the dog died. Quite an experience.
Good luck to all and stay safe -especially with the unsafe drivers we all seem to have encountered.
jensad
I was doing my usual evening commute, heading up 92 (a 6-lane highway) into the hills to 280 S (a monster 8-laner arcing gracefully through the hills west of bay area civilization).
The ramp from 92 to 280 S is a long, semi-gentle curve that goes through a tunnel under the entirety of 280. One can easily take this at 60-65 mph, even 70-75 if you're not in a Hummer. My car could probably take it at 90, not that I've tried!
That night, there was a horrific backup on 92 caused by an accident on 280 N, but it affected all traffic on 92 up to the ramps to 280. Once the south offramp split off towards the tunnel, things opened up and I (and a few other cars) were off and running at 60-65.
After clearing the tunnel, when we were almost ready to merge onto 280 S, I saw that I was coming up on a car. Ever have a situation where you realize you're coming up on a car, and then a few moment laters, realize just how quickly you're coming up on it?
This guy couldn't have been doing much more than 25 on this ramp (which goes between a 55-SL highway and a 65-SL one). I saw him well ahead of time, but like I said, it took a moment for me to realize just how quickly I was approaching. An odd phenomenon.
Basically at that moment of realization, I thought "OMG, I am going to smash into this guy's rear end and there's nothing I can do about it." But I laid into the brakes, and suddenly I felt like I was dragging an anchor through the asphalt.
MAN, that thing can stop. And this isn't even the STI with the Brembos. Props to Subaru for upgrading the WRX brakes for the 2006 model year.
Other than a brief tug to the left during the panic-stop, the WRX avoided the collision with composure, and miraculously, the people behind me managed to stop as well.
It's bad enough when people are slow to merge on ramps leading to the highway from normal streets, but on a highway-to-highway ramp, this person was a sheer road hazard. I don't know whether he was just terrified of actually getting up to speed, or mesmerized, rubbernecking at the backed-up traffic he could see across the median on 280 N (I suspect the latter). Either way, this was easily the scariest experience I've had behind the wheel for some time.
I'll only push for this if I get my cut of the action.
You remember what happened the last time I suggested that a law be passed and it was ..... I got nadda.
I ain't never doin that never again, without my fair share. Not even if they beg. :sick:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Fintail: I use the word cruiser to mean someone moving along below the speed limit, just cruisin easily along the road. I'll give you it could mean they're cruisin' at a high speed too. I'll convert back to "camper."
x: I was going the speed limit with heavy traffic merging and weaving in the right two lanes. This guy just wanted to be a dominator. I kept hoping the state patrol would be sitting at the bottom of the long left downhill with their laser gun on him.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I got behind a guy in a C class who hit his brakes on an icy bridge, and crossed it at 10mph. WTH?
This is the worst place in the world to drive in the snow. I bet people in San Diego or Phoenix could handle it better.
Fortunately they were both OK, no injuries at all, only damage to the cars. Thanks for asking.
I’ll never know how I can say this about my older son since he was going about 70 MPH on a six lane interstate at about 2:30 AM. He said he noticed the deer on his left and hit the brakes hard but he figures he still hit it going about 50-55 MPH. Some how he managed to hit it with only the right front of the bumper. It still did about $2500 damage to his ’91 Grand Prix in 1992. Yes, he was very lucky.
My younger son had a deer run into the left front fender in broad daylight (about 3:00 PM, four years later), while traveling at about 30 MPH on a two lane county road. Only damage to this car was to the fender.
Maybe the states should require deers and horses to get drivers licenses. ha ha.
I think we would have a better chance of horses getting licenses/insurance than we would a deer, since horses are domesticated and would, therefore, be more socially responsible.
I can only guess what kind of damage a horse would do to a car because I don’t know anybody that has had this experience but it can’t be pretty. :sick:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I think a cow or horse would do a pretty nasty job on just about anything.
The weather here has been icy & sleety the last few days and the roads are fairly bad. The kind of bad that you can easily deal with by using the slow & steady method. People haven't really been too awful, but I can't believe how close some folks like to get on the highway. I mean side to side and front & rear.
When I was up in Kodiak Alaska they had "free range" cows. The rancher up there just let the cows wander around and every now and then one would be on the road and get hit. It generally did some pretty bad damage on the cars. The few that I knew that hit cows said the thing just walked away afterwards.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Ok ..... but how soon afterwards were they sold as hamburger meat or dog food?
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
When we drove through Canada to Washington a couple weeks ago we encountered a huge herd of Buffalo. There were probably 10 or so right in the middle of the road, let me tell ya, those things DO NOT MOVE, not even for a tractor trailer. We had to squeeze between the ones in the middle and the ones on the side of the road. The semi behind us did the same thing. Surprisingly enough not many of them get hit, we only saw 2 dead ones on the whole trip down and back.
People respect the fact that they don't move and if you are in a car or light truck you will be on the losing end. A year ago when I went through there the night before I was told not to leave Watson Lake before light. The next morning the locals were talking about the moron who didn't listen, he hit a bull with his truck, totalled his truck and the buffalo got up and walked off.
Had to avoid 3 herds of caribou who were using the road as a salt lick as well. Lots of wildlife in Canada, its kind of neat to see things we don't see here in Alaska.
There's nothing wrong with looking but like you said, just don't try to move them out of your way!
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Those free ranging animals are pretty sharp and/or those 'animal rights' guys worked overtime to get that one through.
When are us responsible drivers who buy insurance going to get our rights? :confuse:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Well the police stopped cross traffic and started to wave us through some idiot went right trough after the police officer stopped that traffic. :confuse: It didn't take to long for one of those police cars to get going.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D