Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,712
    Not obeying a lawful command of a police officer. Costly.
    Check your email.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    It didn't take to long for one of those police cars to get going.

    That's the way it's supposed to work.

    Just doesn't happen often enough.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Check your email.

    I did, nothing there.

    Opps got it, Sorry.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • loncrayloncray Member Posts: 301
    When I took my family to Yellowstone a few years ago, we got to sit in a big traffic jam while waiting for the bison to move off the road. See, they like to soak up the heat from the blacktop. The rangers came along to make sure nobody got too close, and eventually they moved. When I was still living in Wyoming, I saw a cabover semi that had hit a moose - which went up INTO the cab. The driver died, the moose died - it was a pretty horrific mess.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,594
    It's snowing here again today, I live on a hill, and I don't have to go to work today, so I am watching the carnage. It's hilarious seeing people trying to make it, and the dumb things they do. So many people stop on the hill! An S2000 stopped on the hill...man those things break traction easily. We only have a couple inches of snow, but that here = armageddon.

    I think I'll go for a walk and check some other hills.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    As with flying - the superior pilot knows when not to. Your decision to not drive in this mess is admired. :)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,594
    Doh...they sanded and plowed my street, so my fun is over

    Highlight of the morning was seeing three guys push a late model Lexus LS up a hill, woman driving it with a poodle in the passenger seat.

    Lots of slipping and sliding, no crashes.

    Police scanner is very busy today. My car is in the shop undergoing a condition-of-sale cosmetic repair, so I couldn't go out if I wanted to (which I wouldn't)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    Hahahahah! Oh, man.... now THAT was funny to watch. Especially that first car. That must have been on a hill, but it was hard to see the grade from that angle.

    With the crappy OEM tires on my car, I probably would have been right there with them though. :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,712
    Was it ice? Snow over ice?

    How steep is the slope on the hill they videoed?

    That was awful to watch.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • kapbotkapbot Member Posts: 113
    I can't comment on the individual drivers in that video because I wasn't there. But it does illustrate beautifully the major flaw in 4X4 & AWD driver's minds...

    The number of driven wheels don't make all that much difference in stopping and turning, especially on ice.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Click on the cite below and go to Video Player.

    www.kgw.com

    15 cars getting smacked. Very inconsiderate. :sick: :sick: :sick:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,594
    Very cool, thanks.

    Here's a link for anyone who is interested

    And yeah, it was snow over ice, streets that certainly received no de-icer or sand when they maybe should have. Portland (and all of its suburbs, along with Seattle and all of its suburbs for that matter) are quite hilly, so small amounts of snow and ice cause havoc. Of course, over-confident SUV drivers never help.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Thanks, reminds me of the "bad old days" in Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, and the DC area.

    Meanwhile, here in Central Virginia just east of the Blue Ridge Mountains, we haven't had any snow or ice yet this winter.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    So they have a hugh bumper car ride in Portland.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Oh my goodness. I shouldn't laugh, but it was rather funny. I'm just glad I wasn't there, that's crazy!

    It was bad in Fairbanks today, but no where near that bad. I got a chuckle out of all the 4x4 trucks spinning at the intersections, no traction at all. I didn't have any problem, but I have studded snow tires on my 4x4. I almost got rearended once, I scooted forward just in time so the car behind me could get out of the way of a sliding truck that just missed rearending them.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    ?! Really? I did not notice it being more slick than any other day. One would think that, barring freezing rain (which is incredibly rare here), drivers here would be fairly immune to the slight variances in slickness caused by rising temperatures and light snowfalls. Ah, well.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    :surprise: I hope that was one heck of a stew! :P
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    That video is no good for anyone but the body shops. They will be busy over the next few days.

    I have a little story for today as well.

    I am on my way to work this afternoon to do a delivery on my day off. Moderate traffic on the two lane road that connects my town to the town the dealership is in.

    It is very, very cold here today down in the teens in the hill towns. There is some patch ice in some places but none on this particular road. About three cars in front of me someone makes a unsignaled high speed left turn. Everyone slams on their brakes and I have more then enough room in front of me so I won't hit the next car. I always glance at my rear view mirror when I have to hit the brakes suddenly and I did this time as well.

    This was the first time that I actually meant something because a Escape was coming too fast too close to me and would not be able to stop in time. I jerked the wheel to the right and drove up on the small rise by the shoulder of the road. Thank god for AWD subbies with moderate ground clearance. Unfortunately I didn't have enough space to work with and she still managed to clip my rear driver's side bumper. She took out that taillight too.

    I will get a picture later.

    The escape was much worse off. Bent the passenger's side fender busted up the bumper skin, took out the head light and fog light plus rippled the hood.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    So they have a hugh bumper car ride in Portland.

    Yep .... and you don't have to buy tickets, just bring your own vehicle. :cry:

    That was wild.

    Glad I wasn't there.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    ?! Really? I did not notice it being more slick than any other day. One would think that, barring freezing rain (which is incredibly rare here), drivers here would be fairly immune to the slight variances in slickness caused by rising temperatures and light snowfalls. Ah, well.

    It seemed a little more slick at the intersections, I wasn't having any problems, it was just watching everyone else that was funny. That's the first time in a long time I've come that close to being rearended. Can you see why I try hard to not be in Fairbanks often??

    We are on our way to Anchorage in a couple hours, should be interesting. Taking the dually, people don't usually mess with that big beast. I've heard the roads are just, uh, *lovely*.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Yes, upload them to your carspace page like you did your other pictures. If you look under the pictures after they are uploaded, you'll see code for a URL and also for a link to embed the picture in a post. Copy and paste the embed link to display the picture in a post, or copy and past the URL for people to click on to see the pic.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    It's hard to believe and I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it. People actually standing/watching, up close and very personal, run away vehicles sliding down hill on ice with no chance of stopping until it hits something. :sick: :sick:

    Gotta stay away from people like that. That kind of stupidity can rub off. I especially feel bad for their innocent off-spring who inherited those genes. :surprise:

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    The only vehicle that is going to move safely in those conditions has tank treads.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    I agree, but I didn't see any with this option package but I'm sure they had the 500 watt, 20 disc radio upgrade. :)

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,712
    I'm not sure which people you mean.
    >People actually standing/watching, up close and very personal,

    The people on the street?
    or the people on the rooftop?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    So close to making it out, too!!! That looks like a bumper-to-bumper contact, so it is surprising that it did so much damage to the other vehicle. Must have hit low on the other bumper and pushed it upward?

    I'm glad it was not worse - a direct rear-ender certainly would have been painful. Sorta have to wonder why the other driver did not just veer slightly to the left to avoid.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    The only vehicle that is going to move safely in those conditions has tank treads.

    Nope, the only difference is that the tanks won't get damaged much. There are some well shown films of Tanks in Europe during the winter of 44-45 that were basically doing the same things as these cars were doing. When you don't have traction you don't have traction.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    I'm not sure which people you mean.

    The people on the street?
    or the people on the rooftop?


    Nah .... I'm not going to fall for that. If I answered that you'd be the first one to put me in that category I was talking about. :P :P

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Sorta have to wonder why the other driver did not just veer slightly to the left to avoid.

    Probably was going to head down a hill like we saw in that Portland movie.

    Rover's Subie was the last chance of avoid a long bumpy white-nuckle ride. :)

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    Hahhaha! Yeah, might as well get it over now.... :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,594
    Back when I as in school I lived in a hilly area...there was one paricularly bad intersection in my area, when it snowed I would walk down there, sit on the high side of the street where I was fairly safe, and watch the fun unfold. I saw some wild stuff.

    At least your Subie wasn't hit by that out of control XC90. british_rover!
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    In all my years in the northeast, I don't think I EVER saw anything that bad.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    At least your Subie wasn't hit by that out of control XC90

    Was that not amazing?! It was like the driver had a hankering to destroy that poor thing! Just when you thought it was going to stop, the driver would hit the gas and send it spinning off in some other direction. :sick:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    It was actually going slightly up hill on a completly dry road... :surprise:

    If she had swerved into the left lane she might have hit oncoming traffic. The car that made the highspeed left hand turn did it right in front of another car so there was no place for her to go.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,594
    I noticed that from the start...why did they keep on hitting the gas? Why not just let the thing stop? Uugh...SUVs :sick:
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    Ah, it looks like fun, but there is definitely a learning curve for slick roads - even up here the first snowfall results in more havoc than any other weather event for the rest of the winter.

    That conical evergreen in the left-center background is incredible! Just gorgeous! Is that an arbovitae? The thing I miss most about living further south is the lack of variety in trees and the slow rate at which they grow here. :blush:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    Ah. From the sound of it you had almost cleared the right lane on the right side. Lanes are normally 12' wide, so I figured 6' wide vehicle should be able to swerve enough (a whole 1' to the left, from the looks of your car!) to avoid a collision without crossing into the left lane. But, the amount of room depends greatly on the assumption that your car was mostly off the road and that the lane was 12' wide.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Good call, checking your rear-view ... I have a paranoia about hard braking based on one bad experience a long time ago when I was driving part of a long trip with my stepdad and mom. Traffic in front slowed dramatically, I had to brake suddenly, and somebody rear-ended us. My stepdad wasn't upset with me since it wasn't my fault, but it definitely sucked.

    I'm now programmed to expect collision from the rear every time I have to stop suddenly. As your story indicates, such fear is not unfounded!
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,712
    I wasn't intending to do a trick question.

    If it's the people down on the street, I assume all those are from the vehicles already having had accidents and standing adn waiting. If it's the people on the roof, If probably would have photographed it myself with my Sony in awe of what happened.

    I grew up in rural Indiana on roads that drifted. We were always stunned at the (idiots) from towns around who would try to traverse some of the roads that weren't main roads and didn't know how to drive through drifts and when to NOT TRY to go through. Then their car's stuck up on top of snow of off in the ditch and they wanted a farmer to get a tractor out and give them a pull on the end of a chain to get out of the ditch.

    This was before 4-wheel drives and SUVs to give people overconfidence. Pick-em-up trucks did better but had rear wheel drive problems because of light beds. And it was before cell phones to call for help!

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    This is a pretty narrow road so I don't think it is 12' feet wide and there is no shoulder. I had pulled up on to a 3-4' high rise on the edge of the road at a high enough speed to bottom out the passenger side suspension. Couldn't really get all the way off the road because I was all contorted on this hill.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    I wasn't intending to do a trick question.

    Sorry, one never knows about the types you meet on the internet. Should have known you can be trusted since you're here at Edmunds. :)

    I assume all those are from the vehicles already having had accidents and standing adn waiting.

    Yep, those are the ones I was talking about.

    They were just 'standing and waiting to be run over'.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • jensadjensad Member Posts: 388
    Dear fintail

    it sounds like you had/have a ringside seat at the destruction derby. And I bet it was interesting to watch cars slide, in SLOW MOTION.

    Slow motion accidents probably help prevent serious injuries to the drivers and passengers. At least I hope so.

    Good luck to all and stay safe.

    jensad
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,594
    yeah, that's why I didn't feel bad about watching it all. It was all stuff probably no faster than 20mph, so there were never real injuries. And to be honest, the people driving were all fairly dumb, so I felt they got what they asked for :P

    I'm a scaredy-cat when it gets too icy, I just stay home. People here have a hard enough time coping with dry roads.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,754
    I think that is the real reason I do not live in a city (of any large size, anyway). I love driving in snow too much to stay home, yet the hazard of all the other drivers on the road would be enough to make me think twice were I to need to drive through a city to get to some less crowded roads. :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Not only the hazard, but also the way the traffic comes to a grinding halt in cities when people forgot what snow was.

    I love laying pristine tracks in the snow ... tire or boot.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,594
    Yeah, a big wide open parking lot covered in snow can be great fun.

    A crowded snow covered suburban road full of SUVs and buses and freaked out simps is no fun.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    ... of the winter of 1975-76, when I was a graduate student in Bloomington, Indiana with my then-new 1975 VW Rabbit.

    Well, one winter morning, I got up and started getting ready to go to school. Suddenly, I heard raindrops pelting down on the apartment roof above me. No big deal, but then I suddenly remembered what I'd just heard on the radio: IT WAS ONLY 26 DEGREES OUTSIDE.

    So, I look out the window to the main 2-lane road heading into town, and I see cars moving very slowly. Freezing rain! It stopped coming down after about 5 or 10 minutes, but that was enough to glaze everything up.

    For some reason that escapes me now, I decided to go into school anyway. I took the road into town, going slowly and not having too much trouble.

    There was a hill that I crested near the hospital, and going down, a Dodge Dart in front of me started sliding slowly like those cars in Portland, eventually slamming into the curb. My Rabbit started sliding too, but somehow I managed to stop without hitting the Dart or the curb. I think at that point I bailed out and departed from my usual route.

    Eventually I made it to the parking lot near the building where I did most of my work. I had to cross a main avenue first on foot. Well, there was this AMC Pacer (if I remember correctly) tooling along at about the normal speed limit (30 mph) on this glare ice. Up ahead at the next intersection, you had to turn right, if you were in the right lane like he was. There was a barrier across the road that basically forced you to make the turn.

    I said to myself, "there's no way he's gonna make that turn." Sure enough, he tries to brake and slides straight into the barrier. :sick:
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Back in 1978 when I was working the grave yard shift at our local grocery store (20 yrs old), I had a 1973 VW bus that was an automatic (rare). On this one cold wintery night as I was driving to work, it started to sleet covering the roads pretty good. The air cooled engine didn't defrost the windshield too well.

    My route took me through a twisty tree-lined road where other cars had slid off to the side. That VW bus just kept right on trucking along. I'm sure it helped a great deal that the engine was right over the rear axle which gave me weight over the drive wheels.

    I only kept that vehicle for 8 months and kinda miss it when I see them in Southern California! Mine was medium blue with a white top.

    Mark156 :)
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
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