Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    As this was happening, I saw, in my rearview mirror, a pair of vehicles approaching quickly in the left lane (lane I was occupying). They were about 1/4 mile back, but closing rapidly at probably 70-75.

    Guess we all experience this situation frequently on the interstates of seeing someone coming up fast while we are in left lane and passing cars or trucks that are in right lane. I will usually do whatever I can to find a slot and get into right lane quickly, but without inconvenience to anyone in the right lane. Then, I will safely get back into the left lane and continue passing. More often than not, I will end up following (at safe distance) the high speed driver being held up ahead by traffic in both lanes. This person will almost always be intimidating the driver ahead and driving with very little interval between bumpers. If there were ways to catch these guys, they should serve jail time with good publicity. They are a heck of a lot more dangerous to society than Paris Hilton.
    (Yesterday on CBS Face the Nation, Bob Scheiffer said that he had not thought of pursuing an interview with Paris such as the CNN Larry King will do. Bob said that he could not think of a single question that he would want to ask.)

    Recall a case in Illinois, I believe on Eisenhower Extension interstate, where a guy in a Camaro (I think) got so enraged over something that he hit and bunted a car off the road. The car rolled and the person in it was killed. The guy was sentenced to a good term in jail.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,761
    Naw, I made my decision quickly. The decision was to let the Kia go ahead and fall in behind. The Jeep's driver changed that decision when he rode my tail. My decision at that point was to ease down my speed so the Kia would pass faster, thus giving the Jeep and convertible a method of passing sooner. My preference is to not hold up other drivers.

    The problem was that the Jeep's driver wanted to drive faster than present conditions allowed and rather than pausing momentarily to allow conditions to become favorable again he instead became enraged and dangerous.

    I always have to chuckle at the expectations of drivers like these. They want the road on a silver platter and traffic to part like the Red Sea; all the while, they assume that no other driver can have any effect on them but that they can affect all other drivers.

    Yet, in the situation I recounted on Friday, a gentle tap on my brakes and his Jeep might be embedded in my car. Had the convertible's driver not been acutely aware of her surroundings, his Jeep would have collided with her car. Wohoo. I want to be in control of the roads like that guy. :sick:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • sky23213sky23213 Member Posts: 300
    Since we are on the topic of dangerous drivers, here's what happened a few weeks ago. I drive out of our subdivision on a county road, one lane each way, connecting two suburbs. No cars in front or behind me. I approach the intersection where I'm about to make a right turn. The right turn lane there is unusually long for some reason. At that moment I notice a guy on a sports motorcycle, bleached crew cut, t-shirt flapping in the wind - you know the type (sorry, xwesx, couldn't help it :D ) - glued to the left stoplight of our CR-V, as if saying "c,mon, go, go". He can't pass, there's no point since we're approaching the intersection, and I pretty much smell what he's gonna do. So I put on a blinker and give him a couple of seconds before I start merging into the right turn lane. What do you know, he does exactly that - dashes into the turn lane. Then, after he passes, he makes A LEFT in front of me, does an 180 going into the oncoming lanes and heads back :confuse: . It all happened so fast, by the time I asked my wife "Did he really flipped me or just waived?", he was gone. I would have been reaaaly curious to find out what was his problem, but I had promised my wife to behave when she and the kid are in the car. It was sooo tempting to proceed with merging and send him in the prairie grass. He would have been pulling weeds and stuff out of his pants for a looong time.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,761
    sorry, xwesx, couldn't help it Hahhaha! :blush:

    Amazing how those folks take so much for granted on a motorcycle. There was a biker that passed me about 60' prior to an intersection with a red light (well into the solid white section) between my truck and the tractor-trailer to the left of me. It was all I could do to get my truck stopped prior to punting him into intersecting traffic. Had I not been driving my '69 Chevy pickup, I probably would not have been able to stop in time. As it was, I would loathe to cause any damage to that truck. ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Well, I suppose they wouldn't be motorcyclists if they weren't risk takers! It has to be in their DNA.

    I agree though -- you don't want to mess up a '69 Chevy pickup!
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,356
    Yesterday I was driving my old pick-up on the interstate at the speed limit (2 lanes in one direction). I pulled into the left lane to pass a slow vehicle. I signal to pull back into the right lane and I notice a car coming up rather fast in the left lane behind me.

    My first instinct was to quickly move back to the right lane to let the car get past me but something told me to hold off for a half sec. Sure enough, this young girl jerks over into the right lane and passes me on the right, ignoring my right directional.

    To make matters worse, three more cars followed her, all paying no attention to my blinker. Oh, and none of them bothered to use their signals when changing lanes.

    When I got home I went to the back of the truck to see if my turn signal was still working. It was.

    Are modern cars so insulated from the road that people nowadays can't respond to outside stimuli?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    No, these drivers are in such a rush that they won't even give someone like you or me time to move back into the right lane, even though we're clearly signalling our intentions to do so.

    Remember the old driver's ed rule about not pulling back into the right lane until you see both headlights of the car you've just passed in your inside rearview mirror? These people can't be bothered with that -- just "thread the needle."
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,761
    And, unfortunately, it is such a common occurrence as to not even surprise me anymore.

    Every so often I will find myself needing (er, wanting) to pass on the right when someone in the left lane is traveling slower than I prefer to go only to have that driver turn on a right signal just moments after I illuminate mine. For some reason (perhaps I tend to be overly gracious?), I always deactivate my signal and wait for that person to change lanes before passing on the left instead. Seems simple enough, but it does slow me down for a second or two. :surprise:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,599
    Must every Harley, when sitting at a light, rev up every 5-10 seconds? Can't these things idle?

    Why must every truck that drives up my street either go 15 or 50 (in a 30)?
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Ok we went to the beach last Saturday and saw the following:

    Two vehicles that cut across 5 lanes of traffic at the very last moment to get off the expressway.

    Cut off a few times by some idiot passing me on the right merging into my lane just missing clipping me and rear ending the car I was about to pass (mind you that every time that happened there were at least two lanes to my left).

    One guy I noticed in my rear view mirror coming up real fast in the right lane (me in the middle lane and passing someone in the right lane with at least one open lane to my left). Sure enough this idiot passed on the right using the shoulder.

    Made a left turn onto a four lane road and went into the left lane (as I am supposed to do) the VW behind me and the Hyundai behind him both went into the right lane and passed me up. The hyundai then changed lanes passed the VW and with no one in front of them for miles merged in front of the VW the instant they got in front of the VW and just sat there.

    One motocyclist doing a wheelie at 50 MPH.

    Multiple motorcycles weaving in and out of very heavy traffic.

    And one deer near the beach that wouldn't get off the road.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    I haven't read through the whole forum so some or all of the following might have been poster already - maybe these are just my pet peeves:

    Traffic in large cities: what does it accomplish for honking the horn when no one is moving anywhere in a traffic tie-up?

    Drivers hitting the brakes on every five seconds or so on a straightaway route with no intersection in sight

    Drivers driving below the speed limit on the left side of the highway.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Well, number one is a New York specialty, especially among the cabbies! And if you don't move the millisecond the light turns green, be prepared for a symphony!

    Number two -- very old people seem most prone to do this, but can also be a sign of someone engrossed in a cell phone call.

    Number three -- this problem has been debated ad nauseum here (unless the person is actually driving on the wrong side of the road)!
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,761
    Alright, I could probably forgive most of that. However, the deer?! I hope you were able to get the plate #!!! :P

    Considering all of that, though, glad you, the Mrs (assuming she went), and the car made it home safely! ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Yep she who must be obeyed went along with most of her family (we took a few cars and went in a caravan). We were just amazed at what we saw on the trip.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jensadjensad Member Posts: 388
    Dear snakeweasel

    I also have observed the "SI" (summer insanity) where I live in No. Cal. My wife and I were in bumper to bumper 5 PM commute when I looked to my left and saw a pickup in the center divider TURNOUT lane traveling along side of the commute at estimated speed of 50mph. As insane as it looked he kept going and no one luckly pulled into his "lane".

    SI usually starts around here in April when it becomes warm, pavement is no longer slick, and the horsepower is to be used and abused.

    In today's paper what you described occurred on IS 680 as reckless driver did some damage.

    I used to ride motorcycles but when they rev up at 12 AM and wake me up because they either got blown out mufflers or the baffles are open it annoys me.

    Oh well life is good. I hope all have a peaceful and rewarding 4th.

    Good luck to all and stay safe.

    jensad
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    Dear Abby

    Saving a parking space??? I think the driver should have just parked there. I'm sure she would have moved. However, I'm not sure what I would have done. I'd hate to think of what my car might look like when I got back to it.

    Reminds me of a time when I went to a sporting event that set a record for attendance. I parked on a side street at a curb and the people who lived there were charging money to park. I laughed and refused to pay since it was a city street. I confirmed it with a police officer doing crowd control down the road. However, the stress of worrying about what these people might do to my car during the game didn't make it worth it. Fortunately, nothing happened.

    Sometimes, being right is more expensive. ;)
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    Coming home from Eastern Washington on I-90 last week I noticed an SUV slowly veering into the left lane once or twice and changing speed. When it settled down I passed on the left and it started moving over again. I looked over at the driver and saw him holding his laptop in front of him as he drove. :sick:
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,356
    Dear Abby indeed. I had you pegged as more of an Anne Landers person.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Actually I am neither, I am more of a Dolly person. :P

    It was brought to my attention by someone else.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,717
    I was expecting Dolly Parton stuff when I clicked! :blush: What a letdown. :cry:

    Tuesday was a bad day for aggressive drivers. Wife lost her keys while at Kohls so on the way to rescue her I was tailgated by a Dodge Ram (what else?) pickup who thought 58 in a 55 construction zone was too slow. It's at the confluence of two interstates and has weaving to the other side of the interstate and narrowed lanes for several miles after that along concrete walls. Some people are never happy.

    I'll call the local state patrol post to comment they need some sitting and laser work in the truck cutouts in this area. We've had major backups when idiots cause accidents in the zone.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    I was expecting Dolly Parton stuff when I clicked!

    Sorry, try this.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Reminds me of a time when I went to a sporting event that set a record for attendance. I parked on a side street at a curb and the people who lived there were charging money to park. I laughed and refused to pay since it was a city street.

    Been in that situation at times in the past. People collecting money were teen-age boys. I paid to avoid getting keyed, tire punctures, broken windows, etc. Then, changed my/our behaviour to make sure that I arrived very early at sports center and parked in their lot. Know that still could have had an idiot going to game that might key the car, but no one ever did so.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Ok I am doing some consulting work for a state agency as they change time keeping systems. Part of this time keeping system is for a state police district. Well when they have over time they have to get it approved and give a reason. Well this week I saw one of those OT sheets for a state trooper and the description read "car vs tree, tree won".

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,761
    "car vs tree, tree won"

    Hahah... is that not usually the case?! ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I beat a tree with my Jeep once, ripped it out by the roots, but then he called in three more buddies and I could only take out one of them.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,356
    "...but he called in three more buddies..."

    I hate those lousy punk tree gangs. I hear they even have a slang term for their gangs...they call them groves. ;)

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Maybe we should get back to our roots in here ... nah... branching off to a little off-topic diversion on the weekend won't hurt any. :shades:
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,717
    >I beat a telephone pole once... of course the pole was probably ready to come down,

    I can top that. I hit a pole on a rainy day. Hard on car but snapped pole. I was unhurt (shoulder belts). But you should have seen the look on the telephone installer when he came out of the house he was hooking up about 100 feet away and saw his pole was broken and he had just come down from hooking up the leads for the drop line to the house.

    I'm glad he wasn't on the pole.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jensadjensad Member Posts: 388
    You folks that run into trees are sure barking up the wrong tree. I have also seen a few horse vs. car and indeed the horse won.

    Good luck to all and stay safe.

    jensad
  • trimastertrimaster Member Posts: 163
    They were parked right over the line in a crowded hospital parking lot.
    Attend an anger management class instead.

    The space hog needs parking school. The upset space hunter doesn't need anger management.

    If a proud owner wants to park far away from the store entrance and park their "baby" in two spaces where visitors/customers don't usually park, that's one thing. If they don't want to park properly in a crowded area, take a cab.


    I agree. Not cool. If U want to hog up spaces, park in places where they're not so desirable. I park my cars away from others so I don't have to deal with that madness at all.
  • trimastertrimaster Member Posts: 163
    What about those yo yos who leave their turn signal on for miles, and even make opposite direction turns or lane changes? Makes you want to pull in front of them and return the favor.

    Agreed! I mean come on! U can't see the light flashing on your dash??

    Evidently not... :confuse:
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I did that again the other day in my Subaru. I don't notice the signal lights in that car (maybe because it's red?), and the stereo drowns out the clicking. I've about resorted to holding down the signal when I turn but not engaging it all the way to the stop. Part of the problem is that the switch doesn't always disengage after I complete the turn and I don't notice that the signal is still on.
  • trimastertrimaster Member Posts: 163
    I usually have a digital camera in my car for such things.

    I keep my camera phone close by when I'm driving just in case something crazy happens.
  • trimastertrimaster Member Posts: 163
    Hi Steve,

    How long before you noticed it was on? I can understand a minute or so, but I've seen people have it on for long periods of time: sitting in rush hour traffic, switching lanes several times, just cruising down a highway that'n not crowded, etc...
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The worst was coming home the back way from town a few months ago with few intersections where I had to turn. We're talking blinking for three or four miles and maybe 6 or 8 minutes :blush:

    Last week I caught myself in two blocks. :shades:
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,761
    I noticed my '07 Outback's turn signals were fairly stingy about their automatic return. Unless I made a tight turn (i.e., no sweeping turns), it would tend not to return. But, owning mostly old vehicles that do not automatically return anyway, I am used to checking the switch. Once in a blue moon I will catch myself a mile or two down the road after having used my left signal on my '69 van (it is supposed to return, but the left signal return is broken). As I only put about 10 miles a year on it nowadays, it is a rare event. :P
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,356
    "...U can't see the light flashing on your dash?..."

    There was a great VW commercial a few years back where two guys are following an old man going 20mph with his left turn signal on. The passenger says to the driver "So, your not going to pass because you figure that this guy is just waiting for you to try so he can make a move on you, right?"
    I'm not sure what the point was, other than to buy a VW.

    BTW trimaster, you know you're responding to a 3 year old post?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    My first car the signal never made a sound so if it didn't go out it would be a while for me to notice it.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I'll ask at the Subaru Chat tonight if there's a way to make the turn signal flasher louder (maybe they have replacements on the over 50 aisle at Schucks?).
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Both of my Camrys ('04 and '05) have turn signal flashers that are WAY to quiet, but I'm accustomed to checking. My '98 Frontier is just right -- not too loud or too soft. And with my 30-watt 2-speaker stereo (don't laugh), I can't turn it up loud enough to drown out the sound. :P
  • davethecarnutdavethecarnut Member Posts: 248
    Al, you're way too nice. I would've flashed my high beams and honked my horn behind him. Not to every LLC, but this Buick guy? Definitely. Plus I would give him a "doofus" look. It's something I do instead of the ever boring middle finger. What he did was extremely A-hole'ish.
  • sky23213sky23213 Member Posts: 300
    Now those are some inconsiderate drivers. I hope this works...
    http://www.zazz.bg/play:dfb61cd0
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,717
    Be clear I don't support blocking the left lane of a two lane by speeding up to keep people from passing on the right. But I can't help but wonder if some of the first people behind this driver used some of the people skills mentioned in a nearby post of flashing headlights, blowing horn, tailgating as close as possible, etc., etc., and the driver was angry over those dufuses. I keep hearing polarization of the attitudes about the road. The left lane holder is going the speed limit. The left lane passers are going over the speed limit but not greatly-much like I drive when not in a pokey mood. One aggitates the other and we have a teenaged standoff.

    When I'm in a hurry I just pass on the right but give no hint I'm going to do so. People in front of line don't expect a Buick to hit 2nd and zoom around them quickly.

    The truck's passing is a problem. I hate driving in areas where the truck's speeds are now limited to 70 mph because they try to use every mph they can instead of driving safely.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    When they do this, the Buick speeds up to about 70ish and thus only one car is able to get past on the right before the gap closes because of the semi in the right lane. Then passing the semi, the Buick slows down to 60 MPH again and mopes past the truck. Yet when it gets past, he jumps the speed back up to 70-75 MPH and won't move over. Another cars decides to pass on the right and probably hit 90 to get by him before the gap closed again. Once again while passing another set of trucks he slows down to 60 and when he gets past, he speeds back up to 70ish and won't move over.

    That Buick driver was definitely dangerous, stupid, immature, inconsiderate and a lout in that traffic situation. He was playing games on the highway. Too bad we don't have more funds for highway patrols to have unmarked cars that are not typical (full size RWD Fords, Dodges, etc) such as Mustangs to find these people, ticket and fine them heavily.

    I have seen similar behavior over time. I will offer anecdotally that drivers that do that sort of thing are rarely driving enthusiast type cars such as BMWs, Audis, Corvettes, Porsches, Mercedes, Infinities, Acuras, Volvos, Saabs, etc. The game playing drivers have cars that are usually dopey mundane appliances or are suvs.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,356
    The story of the Buick driver in the left lane made me think of a stunt a bunch of enviromentalist pulled some years ago when the national speed limit was 55.

    They would go out on the interstate with as many cars as it took to fill all driving lanes, put one car in each lane and drive next to each other at exactly 55.

    This would cause a massive back-up of traffic as cars doing 65 would come up against this roadblock. Traffic would be backed-up for miles with drivers honking, swearing, driving on the shoulder and the median. Many rear end accidents occurred.

    The police finally asked the group to stop (which was all they could do since they were doing the speed limit) before someone got shot.

    So maybe the Buick driver was just having a flashback to the 70's.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    I thought that stunt was pulled off by college students a few years back on the DC Beltway just to show the absurdity of the 55 mph limit. The Beltway has 4 lanes in each direction for most of its circumference, so the students blocked all 4 lanes.

    They did it during non-rush hours, because you can barely move during rush hour in some (most?) places on that wretched road.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,717
    Our state patrol cars did the same rolling roadblocks to slow people down. I recall pictures of North Carolina State Patrol doing the same.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ponderpointponderpoint Member Posts: 277
    The kids that got together and all went abreast on the multi-laner?.... They actually have video of it somewhere. The battle cry was that they were just innocently doing the speed limit, and technically, was legal.

    Not so. It's called obstructing/restricting a public thoroughfare and does carry a penalty.... speed has nothing to do with it.

    Finally, the other day I saw one of the most delightful things I've ever seen in traffic. I-83 north of Baltimore and the usual left lane jammer... Real obstinate until he found out one of the cars he was blocking was an unmarked cop! They make it pretty clear that if you're not passing, you need to get over (signs). It's a winding hilly interstate and the trucks are always down to their flashers/40 mph in some sections.....
  • jensadjensad Member Posts: 388
    Dear imidazol97

    Out here in California, we call the traffic slowing tactic, "round robins". I used to be a CHP officer (now retired) and many times when I worked the old pre-earthquake Nimitz double decker freeway with no shoulders, we ran round robins.

    It helped protect the accident scene, gave us time to remove any debris/obstructions such as fenders, garbage, chairs, ect. And it probably saved our lives and saved the citizens.

    What used to get me was people in a hurry trying to pass usually one patrol car because they were late for an appointment/fill in excuse. Once in a while when we were not short handed, I was able to stop and read the riot act to the discourteous driver that had tried to pass.

    Unfortunately, several times on the midnight shift, the driver got by us, and compounded the accident ahead by slaming into the cars in the previous accident.

    Glad to be retired, and as I read the messages, it seems like every state has the same issues, and share my frustrations as a driver today.

    I hope all of you stay safe and good luck to all.

    jensad
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