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Cars were swerving around her on both sided and I was just waiting for an accident to happen.
And what makes it even worse is they are TOTALLY OBLIVIOUS to what's going on around them.
Heading home very light traffic going down a four lane (two each direction) street. I am in the left lane (will be making a left turn a few miles up the road) doing my usual 0-5 over SL as I was quickly approaching another car in the left lane. So I just merge over to the right lane and pass the vehicle. Oops sorry as I was pulling a head they sped up and matched my speed.
So I give it a little more gas increase my speed a few MPH to complete the pass and they sped up to match my sped. :confuse:
So I said &%$# this dropped a gear then punched it got way ahead of them and merged into the left lane to make my left turn (with a dedecated left turn lane) a mile or so down the road.
Guess what? Lil miss "I am not to be passed" is racing right up to my rear end blowing her horn tailgating me. :sick:
Then I come up to the intersection get into the left turn lane she gets right behind me blowing her horn yelling out the window at me. Seriously I don't know what got into her because I merged out of her lane before getting to close and was way ahead of her when I merged back in plus I guess she wasn't even doing SL before I came along based on my speed and how fast I came up on her.
I guess some people really do have anger issues. But since I thought it might be a good ideal not to have her following me doing that crap I just stayed outside the intersection burned the green light and the instant it turned red blew through it leaving her at the light.
What do you all think? I think she was pissed off to begin with and was looking for a target.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I think you did the right thing by not allowing her to follow you. I might be tempted (if my wife weren't with me) to pull into a crowded place like a busy gas station and see what the problem was (assuming she'd pull in also). Even if she had a gun, I think the chances of her using it in front of so many witnesses would be slim.
Then again, she could a total psycho like the one xwesx encountered in Alaska!
One big problem in this great country of ours is that too many people can't see past the end of their nose.
They are the same people who will do a slow & go at a 4-way stop, and flip you off as they almost ram you!
These are the same people who will not bother to check their speed going down hill, but won't do the limit going up the hill. These people will coast at 60 mph or better going downhill, but will slow to 25 going uphill, until you try to pass them.
These are people who "merge" in to your road and cross all lanes of traffic to the left lane and camp there regardless of what speed they go.
In my part of the world, you won't get a ticket for anything other than speeding. Getting a license is no more difficult than filling out a form.
I think that most people are conscientious & considerate, but it only takes a few jerks to ruin it for everybody.
Just some of my thoughts.
Thanks.
Come on Snake, we all know what really happened. This young lady was so overcome by your good looks that she just had to keep up with you to gaze all doe-eyed at your handsomeness. At the light she was just trying to get your number or ask you for a date. Stop being so modest
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I agree with you that you self photo seems "normal to me" but then I am not normal.
Hey it sounds like that woman was angry before and was scapegoating you via unloading her venom on you. I guess you could say she "vented" and I am glad she did not bang into the back of you car.
Indeed some "drivers" have one hand on their cell phone, and one hand picking the wax out of their ears as they drive, and believe that they are "right" to do what they wish to do.
In the SFBay area several drivers over the years have been shot at and/or killed by venom drivers.
Glad that you were not hurt and thanks for the post and self-photo. Its nice to have a good laugh along with a beautiful day to enjoy.
good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
The other day I'm driving down a 2 lane(one each way) subdivision street... maybe a foot or two too narrow, no center line divide. Well this car is coming from the opposite direction driving in the middle of the two lanes. She keeps coming and coming, apparently oblivious to my approach. After a few seconds I realize she is not going to move over, so I give two quick shots of the horn. I then see her look up from her center dashboard, and move over. Apparently she was quite focused on tuning into her favorite radio program. :sick:
Two items from the local (upstate NY) press today.
First one, an accident on I-90 where a SUV was cut off by a sedan, rolled, flipped over a guard rail and went down an embankment. Mother hurt bad, father hurt but not so bad, little kid OK. Driver of the sedan--took off, never stopped.
Second, man in a Jaguar runs over a 4 year old boy pinning him under the car. He stops to see what he is dragging. The police arrive. The man attempts to flee the scene backing his rear wheel over the boy. When this doesn't work he flees on foot throwing crack baggies all over the place as he runs. He's caught and is charged with every offence they can think of.
Imagine the nerve...that kid messing up the undercarriage of the poor man's nice Jag :mad: BTW the kid only had minor injuries, go figure.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
That ever happen with your tractor and a billygoat oldfarmer?
Semi-truck pushes wheelchair-bound rider 4 miles
After all the nice answers on the automatic at a stoplight I did check my rpm at a standstill and can report that it's the same whether I'm in drive or neutral.
It is maddening that my wife's work puts her on the road far more than me. As a result she now drives the nice 00 Accord with the stick that I bought because I liked it while I'm stuck with the automatic in the 04 Ody!
Ah, well. Could be worse. Could be in my daughters 99 Camry with the slush box...
No, but I've nearly clipped a few deer with my pick-up. There is a story about why farmers wear high boots and sheep...but...that's for another type of forum.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Thats odd I do believe that every car that I have the RPM's dropped slightly when in gear.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
The highway Gentleman is respected by saying PLEASE MOVE OVER.
The highway Gentleman is respected by saying PLEASE MOVE OVER.
The highway passive-aggressive blocks and derives pleasure from forcing everyone to drive his/her way. More and more people that block the left lane are becoming highway passive-aggressives and they only respond when presented with blunt requests, such as "MOVE OVER".
It isn't.
It is a law in the US with almost 99.9999% LACK of enforcement. There is literally not a freeway, highway that does not have signs to the effect: slow traffic keep right, keep right except to pass, etc. I have actually been on interstates in TX that have signs to the effect; left lane for passing only. I am told they enforce it!!! What the convention does is actually allow space for folks to pass (on the left). This cuts down on a few maneuvers. It also under best normal conditions increases the average and tactical speeds.
passing-on-right is not prohibited in 99% of US.
not even close. i think that only a small minority of states prohibit it, but have not seen a full state-by-state listing for that.
for example:
In NJ it is prohibited to pass-on-right.
In MA/NH/CA it is fine to pass-on-right.
also, "keep right except to pass" does not mean that passing on right is illegal!
again, responding to your most recent post, you still seem to be wrong. passing on the right is absolutely prohibited in some places in USA - entire states - and on certain roads in other states. possibly what i'm saying is consistent with what you are saying: "prohibited except in certain principles" ?
my position is that passing on the right is not bad at all, except in those states and on those roads where it is defined to be a moving violation - where absolutely can get you pulled-over if a cop sees it. NJ or CT on I-95 for example. so in those states passing on right is "bad".
i remain interested in NJ's definition of a "passing on right": When I am on I-95 and there are 3 or 5 lanes, if someone is 2 or 3 lanes to my left, and i overtake/pass, staying in my lane - is that a violation in NJ? i've been assuming YES it is a moving violation in NJ.
I'm guessing this stretch of interstate has so many tire pieces littering the road/shoulder because it is in awful shape, lots of bumps/potholes, bridges with absurdly bumpy expansion-joints.
Yet another reason not to follow big trucks too closely closely!
again,"...
Apparently so.
I pass on the right ALL the time. What does that tell you? I am not sure what you trying to do: read for understanding, or read for demonization!???
I was passing a semi trailer flatbed slowly on I26 in South Caroline one morning years ago. The tire beside me started making noise. I speeded up and watch in the rear view mirror as the Thunderbird behind me had the whole tread of the tire come off and end up on her hood and windshield. They both pulled over to the side of the road. Scary at 65 mph
I noticed on trips to Chicago that I65 between Indy and Chicago had lots of tire treads. I also noticed that I was slow at 70-75 for cars and trucks. High speed and summertime temp apparently cause lots of tires to give up the ghost.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
What I'm trying to do is talk about passing on the right and how it's prohibited in some states and fine in other states, and whether it is bad or not. Previously I thought you had stated something incorrectly about passing-on-the right. Now perhaps I realize that I may never be smart enough to know what you were/are trying to say about passing on the right!
I'm saying that I do it all the time too *except where it is a moving violation*. I'm saying that it's only bad if the state-law/vehicle-code has defined it as bad.
The fact that you pass on the right all the time tells me little beyond the fact itself. Maybe you don't care whether it's a moving violation. Maybe you never drive on roads where it's probibited. Maybe you don't believe it IS a moving violation in some places.
What are you trying to say, man?
Presumably it is something about passing on the right.
Please try to be direct and unambiguous especially for those of us without your vastly superior reading and writing skills (and mind-reading skills?). Cheers !
Some folks feel that way about DUI. !!?? No big deal until they are caught or injure or kill somebody? I read somewhere in passing that folks that (habitually) drive DUI have gotten away with it a min of 500; to 2,000 times before it has come to the attention of law enforcement. So how many times, to cite recent news, do you think Paris Hilton has driven that way?
MOM!!!! It's not fair!!
(I only done this 498 times!!!!
So, you like more of the demonization style, eh?
It might be a contributing reason why common courtesy on the roads is not so common.
me, i'm talking about inconsiderate driving as it relates to passing on the right. as well as a few other subjects relating to [in]considerate driv[ers,ing] .
Pedestrians and other drivers on local roads are constantly amazed by how courteous I am to pedestrians and any driver in front of me in adjacent lane who signals-in-time for me to let them in, especially when I drive in boston. Stopping for pedestrians and safely yielding to turn-signallers often infuriates drivers behind me! sometimes if we are more considerate for drivers/pedestrians ahead, maybe that is being less considerate for the inevitable tailgators behind!
I have already done that. Since I pass on the right all the time, it is really beating a dead horse. If that is what you want to do, do the French a favor and process the meat!
..."now is it the fiction book "davinci code" which causes inconsiderate drivers??! who knew!?"...
While one might want to make it out to be complicated, it truly is not, once one understands it starts between the head sets.
I learned a very very long time ago that drivers (to use a popular poker saying) have "TELLS". It is really whether or not one wishes to read them in performance of ones own driving. (duties) The utility of the so called "rules" is to try to effect orderly chaos and the fixation of blame in the worst cases. Indeed fully one half of those involved in so called "accidents" were in full compliance of the law!!
So unless one is the one with the pursuit vehicle with the lights and sirens, radio with back up and armed with the shotgun, side arm, billy clubs, industrial pepper spray, tazer, lethal and non lethal options and the authority and sworn ability to affect/effect arrest (other than citizens), it is best to leave enforcement to ....LAW enforcement.
So, generally you drive on the right - on 4 lanes it's ok to pass on the right. Assuming you exercise due care.
I personally follow (as much as possible) the old school convention of; keep right except to pass, slow traffic keep right, the left is the passing lane, etc, etc, yada, yada.
If one has even driven on continental Europe, the logic almost defies explanation of why it make sense to keep right except to pass. This is not to mention the fact that they actually enforce this.
Here in the USA, we have the LLC vigilantes, free speech begins in the left lane advocates,... and any one of 1000 reasons to cruise in the left lane... so.... pass on the right!!!
The above can be flipped into reading:" The aggressive driver derives pleasure from forcing everyone out of his way. More and more people are becoming aggressive." Often the aggressive driver will use the terms, "safe", "courteous", & "passive aggressive" in an effort to promote the forcing of their way on others.
I just watch to see if they make lane changes while they're speeding up at 80-90 mph. A few will move into open areas in the middle and right lane. But most will stay in the left lane despite the law to use it only for passing which is the very "law" they expect to apply to those in the left lane at the speed limit and above but who happen to be in front of them.
I watched a lot of left lane dominators on the trip to Nashville last weekend. I find that having a lot of trucks in the other lanes really frustrates everyone. The days we traveled and the times didn't have as many truckers as usual. So the overall attitude of most drivers was pretty. good.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
After about 5 mins, people lose patience. One by one, they move over to the right shoulder, pass the semi and get back on the regular lane. Is this right or wrong?
Your first paragraph PERFECTLY illustrates why keep right EXCEPT to pass, etc etc, remains the rule and why folks should follow it and why it should be ENFORCED. You might not know the calculation to get how long it will take a tractor trailer going 62 mph to pass another tractor trailer going 60 mph. Don't let the obvious fact these are tractor trailers get in the way: just substitute one car going 60 mph and the other 62 mph. Keep in mind that passing at 2 mph is PERFECTLY LEGAL. Dangerous in my .02 cent view.
So under so called "perfect" conditions it takes app 10-13 seconds for one car to pass another...
It isn't.
I disagree. Passing on the right makes you less visable to the person you're passing. This is especially true with 18 wheelers and, to a lesser extent with large SUV's and Pickups. Why? That's where the biggest blind spots are and even outside of the blindspot, you're relying solely on them seeing you in their mirrors.
The only accident I had while driving a truck was with a car hanging in the blindspot to my right.
Sadly, thanks to people hanging in the left lane so they can talk on their cell phones and eat their Big Mac's in peace, some right hand passing is almost required.
It is only wrong if your brother-in-law doesn't own a body shop or if your life insurance is not paid up.
Why stop with the shoulder? The median is usually clear. When in suburban areas most folks keep their lawns nice and trim. Perfect to get around those slow-pokes :P .
That reminds me of a time last year when I was on a section of I-90 that runs through Albany. There was a pile-up a few hundred yards before an exit ramp which blocked all lanes. Traffic was backed up for quite a distance. As I sat there waiting for them to remove the wreckage I noticed people pulling out of line, riding down the shoulder and off the exit ramp. For some this was where they were going all along but for others it was obviously just a lack of patience. Some of them almost caused accidents of their own as they pulled around each other and cut one another off in the attempt to drive up the shoulder.
So many cars did this that I was able to move forward to where they were clearing the original crash. It was then that I saw two police cars--one was supervising the crash site and the other was pulling over all the shoulder cheats and writing them tickets.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Anyway, why do people incorrectly assume that? The fast lane is for the fastest drivers on any given day, and only the very fastest drivers. If you aren't driving faster or equal to the fastest driver's on the road; get the hell outta the way!
My 2 centS!
Don't get me wrong, I love fast driving as much as the next guy. But until traffic laws are enforced as well as being brought up to date, everyone will have to share the misery urban driving has become.
The first law I'd change? Anyone who is involved in an accident gets their cell phone records pulled: if you were on the phone at the time of the accident you're automaticly at fault.
Second change, no pickups, SUV's or vehicles with trailers in the left lane.
Third change: speeding tickets that scale to your income (like in Germany). That a college kid should pay the same as a wealthy person defeats the whole purpose of the fine (unless the purpose really is to raise revenue).
..."That a college kid should pay the same as a wealthy person defeats the whole purpose of the fine (unless the purpose really is to raise revenue)."...
Younger folks, (not to discriminate) especially younger males have more accidents and more fatalities and more DUI's than almost any other segment you care to analyze. Real old folks and 50 something moto bikers excluded. The insurance statistics more than back this up.
I can't help but think that the personal injury lawyers aren't already trying to get this info when they are suing someone over an accident.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
About the shoulder, I know driving on shoulder is illegal (other than emergency). But in TX, drivers routinely do it on 2-lane Hwy's to let someone pass. It is road courtesy, and no one I know has ever gotten a ticket because of this.