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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,032
    Eh, I could care less, but it ain't worth the effort. :P
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    500 for heated seats could be a .... deal breaker. Especially if another oem includes it at so called "N/C" and is half as expensive... ;)
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    LOL as your post was expected.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,013
    Talk about improper wording?

    Thank you for the english lesson.... ;)

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • davethecarnutdavethecarnut Member Posts: 248
    Analyze this one: I don't give a s@#t if any of your a$$e$ freeze!!!! :P
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    Northern USA diesel vehicle drivers really need our vehicles' bunwarmers. The northeast dealers know to order most all the TDIs with bunwarmers.

    And idling our cars will NOT warm them up so we are that much more considerate; idling chills the engine instead.

    It's inconsiderate to keep driving after your engine "blows up", with smoke billowing from the hood & under the car, obstructing view of traffic behind.

    Sighted in heavy highway traffic, 65 mph zone, traffic at 65:
    4 young backwards-hat-wearing young thug-looking-dudes driving a
    junky old LTD whose engine blew up just as cop in unmarked minivan was tailing them. It almost caused a wreck but the thug driver did a good job of getting
    across the other lane onto the shoulder after the cop lit up the hidden blue lights. Maybe the cop was just going to end up helping these dudes if they passed the smell test and the uppity test. But he seemed to be shadowing them before their engine blew up - as if he could see something illegal, maybe that their junker car was beginning to malfunction dangerously.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    >Maybe the cop was just going to end up helping these dudes if they passed the smell test and the uppity test. But he seemed to be shadowing them before their engine blew up - as if he could see something illegal, maybe that their junker car was beginning to malfunction dangerously.

    Sounds like profiling to me. :)

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    "...Sounds like profiling to me..."

    I wish someone would profile me. I'd like a free beer. :)

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Appears that in the "teach able" event, the one that needed the learning "agreed to disagree". Funny how the demos dis each other..... (democratic union) liberal professor.....

    But then not too long ago, the KKK was the terrorist arm of the democratic party!!?? Sort of like Hamas is to .... !!?? :lemon:
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,032
    I wish someone would profile me. I'd like a free beer.

    I think I got profiled once...it was amusing/annoying all at once. I was in my 2000 Intrepid, coming back from a vacation to Texas. I had a baseball cap on...probably turned around backwards. Anyway, it hid my medium-brown hair. I'm naturally somewhat tan. And my mustache and goatee grows in black. So, at a quick glance, I might look Latino to a Louisiana cop. :blush:

    Anyway, after the cop tailed me for a few minutes, and then pulled up beside me and looked at me, he got back behind me and switched his lights and siren on, and I pulled over. As he got out and walked up to me, he had sort of a look and swagger to him that just showed attitude, like he was ready to go Chico and the Man on me. But as soon as he saw me up close and heard my somewhat southern drawl, and well I guess I was older than I looked, I actually saw sorrow and disappointment in his eye. Probably because he was looking for illegals and drug smuggling, and just nabbed a generic white guy.

    He wanted to do a vehicle search and I let him, but it was about the lamest search I've ever seen. I don't do this kind of stuff for a living, but I could've thought of about 3 dozen places to hide something naughty, that he overlooked. I found out that they do tend to go for Latino-looking guys driving expensive-looking out-of-state cars that are coming back from the direction of Mexico, because they tend to smuggle drugs. Now, I don't think of an Intrepid as an expensive car...although back then it was only a year old, and I guess you don't see too many younger guys driving something like that. Plus, at that time, the 1985 Delta 88 was the most-stolen car next door in Ol' Miss, so maybe "expensive" is a relative term?

    So my guess is that if I had dyed my hair blonde, had the baseball cap on right, and had a pastier complexion, I would've escaped his notice. I also wonder how many real drug smugglers drove past us, while he was wasting time with me?

    I wish someone would profile me. I'd like a free beer.

    Well, I'll be at the Das Awkscht Fescht car show in Macungie PA tomorrow, with a cooler full of beer in my Catalina's trunk...so if you're in the neighborhood drop on by! :P
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,456
    That's pretty funny.

    I remember back around 1997 or so, I was crossing into Canada with my friend (a generic white guy, like myself), in his 92 Accord. We were the ones singled out to be searched (the borders were much less strict then), and I suspect it was because we were a couple of 20 year old guys in a car that locally was high on the stolen list and was also involved with drug activity. As with you, they did a lame search - in fact, my friend always kept a dagger in the front door pocket ("to protect against carjackers", he'd say...and I could counter with something about bringing a knife to a gun fight)...and the border agent didn't even notice, or didn't choose to say anything. It only took about 5 minutes...I thought it was pretty funny.

    Maybe it's because of the cars I drive, or that combined with how I usually look pretty clean-cut, but I don't think I have ever been profiled.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Well it kind of makes you wonder how all those drunking driving Hollywood stars get busted !!??? For all the monies those folks make, you would think they would take cabs.... or have like a "pick up drunk Hollywood star " service.
  • hammerheadhammerhead Member Posts: 907
    I'm a real vanilla guy, but my wife is not, and she got 'profiled' in an airport (pre-9/11). She has a USA passport, but a Philippines birth certificate (mom was native, dad was USAF). Oh, and she was pregnant. ;) To the casual observer, she looks like she could have an accent, but her only accent is an eastern Oregon drawl. :)

    Apparently, the combination of US passport, foreign birth certificate, not 'sounding' like she 'looked', and the bomb under her dress was too much for the ICE folks. We almost missed our return flight. I found it interesting that the Canadian Customs folks had no trouble with her visiting their country, but when it was time for one of their own to come back home, the US folks were suspicious.

    Just to pull us back on topic here, I'd bet the ICE folks were at least as inconsiderate driving home that night as they were to us. :P

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Makes makes wax nostalgic for an incident that happened easily 34 years ago in the 1975-1977 time frame. I was stopped I think because I had a "foreign" license plate. It also was expired but waived ;) I was stopped in Georgia with a CA plate, with Florida drivers license and address, insurance in TX. The officer (friendly and respectful as all get out, so was I) asked a heap of questions, but sent me on my merry way with him still expressing amazement.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,456
    I've noticed the border agents coming into the US have always been less considerate than the ones coming from the US - this was the case long before 9-11, too. I don't know what it is...maybe they are micromanaged or poorly trained to deal with people, maybe travelers are jerkier to them than to their Canuck counterparts - but they are more likely to be kind of arrogant. Not all of them mind you, but, the odds are greater in my experience. When flying, I don't see much difference - apathy rules in airports, not arrogance.
  • wesleygwesleyg Member Posts: 164
    you are correct in your area, live in the Chardon area, about 112 inches of snow per year for an average, wind blowing off Lake Erie in Jan. and Feb. often gives a minus 10 to 15 below for wind chill temps. Air temperature in the single digits very common in the early morning when I'm trying to shove off for work, so the scenario I described is not at all rare. I have not fibbed.
  • hammerheadhammerhead Member Posts: 907
    Fin,
    You go through Blaine, or Lynden?
    Lynden was always easier for us, having family in Abbotsford, then continuing on 'over the top' into North & West Vancouver. Last couple times we've gone through at Paterson, going skiing. Seems the smaller stations are a little friendlier, but yeah, the difference between the USA & CDN is there as well.

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • wesleygwesleyg Member Posts: 164
    you don't have to worry about settings for heat, defrost etc. the night before you park. That is all automatic, the computer turns on the heat, front window defrost, rear window defrost all automatically by sensing outdoor temperature. In the summer, it auto turns on the air conditioning. I now wish to say I NEVER use remote start in the summer to cool the car, THAT is a waste of resources since I can get in my car and drive off in the summer right away even if its 100 outside.

    I hope that makes me a little bit ecologically sensitive in some of your eyes.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,456
    I usually go truck crossing or Lynden, depending on where I am going or coming from. Never had any problem with either side at Lynden.
  • wesleygwesleyg Member Posts: 164
    Yes Sir, I do belong to one of your listed occupations, but I can hardly believe that entitles me to the extreme luxury of remote start, a la Paris Hilton entitlement. You are right, ice storms generally occur with air temps in 20's and 30's, but not to belabor the point, over 12 to 16 hours, obviously temps can rise and fall.

    As far as I know, every factory installed remote has an auto shut off, in my case about 9 minutes, so there shouldn't be a problem with a car running for long time without being shut down.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    The truck crossing leading onto BC 15 is our favorite when traveling to Whistler. The duty free ususally has a deal on two jugs of Crown Royal for $35.

    Very considerate Custom agents going both ways. A smiling driver goes a long way with people wearing badges. ;)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    I lived due north of there, right off the lake (really I could throw a baseball from where I parked my car and hit Lake Erie) and I can say that the amount of snow, temps and especially the amount of ice is exaggerated.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    My cars lived outside when I was in Anchorage and sometimes I'd plug the block heaters in and run those for an hour in the mornings. For the windshields, I had an electric heater gizmo that I would plug into an outlet and that would clear the windows in 5 minutes or so. I never idled my cars there, just got in and went. Slowly though. The hardest part was plugging in the interior heater (I only had the one switched outlet and used it for the block heater).

    Before remote starts lots of idlers had their cars stolen. :P

    I'm about 4 hours from home having cruised over to Pismo Beach and Yosemite from Boise the last week. It's hard to find an old fashioned two lane to poke along on (sections of Highway 1 being about it), but even at 80 on the 12 lanes, the drivers were a pretty considerate bunch. The one guy I almost cut off in my blind spot just gave me a friendly wave. Everyone in the mountains was good about using the turnouts to let faster people pass. No near misses either.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Glad you had a good trip in our neck of the woods. We used to make Pismo a regular way stop when one of the kids was going to school a little further south.

    In truth Highway 1 from pretty much San Diego to the Canadian border is about as close to driving nirvana, if you have the time and stomach for a two lane twisty highway. Its the kind of road where you can keep going, stop any time, anywhere, for whatever reason,...go fast, go SLOW... kind of road trip.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    It's great, except where they've combined it with 101. But along Big Sur ... do you watch the road, the surf, the oncoming traffic....

    There's a 50's hot rod show in Winnemucca this weekend and I can hear an occasional one zoom up and down the road with the pipes roaring. I also heard a siren about 30 minutes ago so I suspect the cops are trying to put them all to bed. :)
  • wesleygwesleyg Member Posts: 164
    know exactly where you lived, the wikepedia thing shows average annual snowfall of Chardon at 106 inches per year, weather channel shows the same, this is not the general cleveland area, so you are incorrect on the snow, as far as temps, yes, the average daily temp is not what I stated, this only occurs maybe 5-6 times a month, plenty enough for me.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    until you have found your car encased in 1.41421 inches of ice on a Martian-temperature earth-morning, with a baby/carseat in one hand and an ice-scraper in the other, you might not fully understand why it's actually so crucial to idle a vehicle to warm it up.
    remote-start would be great in that case too -less risk of damaging the paint/glass/locks/doors by scraping through the ice.

    if you have a diesel in a situation like that, idling it is not going to warm it up, so break out your mountainclimbing petons to try to scale your way in!

    but when your escalade is already warmed up and you leave it running to go into the starbucks, it makes me wish fuel was $10/gallon.
  • wesleygwesleyg Member Posts: 164
    I believe your post reflects the common sense approach that I was trying to state. Anyone that uses remote start to cool off a hot car in summer unless you have a sick passenger whos health is in jeopardy, or the Starbucks cliient sipping latte or whatever that is inside and then remotes to cool his deluxe ride for 20 minutes so he should not suffer a sweaty whatever, well that I believe is ludicrous.

    I just wanted to give a narrow example from personal experience where its use would be justified.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    >11.41421 inches of ice

    Can you tell me what date and city your car had 1.4 inches of ice on it and the traffic was moving because businesses were open, schools were operating, and someone had to go somewhere? Aroound most parts of the country, 0.3 inches of ice closes things down.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,032
    Sometimes I've seen situations where the precipitation fluctuates between snow and freezing rain. The snow will be thick and wet, and stick together, and then the freezing rain will only pack it down worse. A few cycles of this will give you a mess on your car a few inches thick that, while pure ice, is still nasty enough. It's not just going to go away with a swipe of the windshield wipers, like a fine powder.

    Or, situations where it snows, but you don't go out the first day. Sun comes out, snow melts a little bit, but not enough to really slide off the car. Freezes again that night, and the next morning, it's basically ice.
  • wesleygwesleyg Member Posts: 164
    thank you for concise reply. That was precisely the situation I was trying to describe due to those conditions, however due to my inadequate explanation, many assumed I was stating 2 inches of ice fell from the sky at regular intervals, now I can let this go, thanks again.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    Common sense, yes... New England.
    and yes to what andre1969 said, about how 2 or sqrt(2) inches of solid ice can accrue/happen, either with or without actual freezing-rain.
    "The roads must roll."
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    > 2 or sqrt(2) inches of solid ice can accrue/happen, either with or without actual freezing-rain.

    The original poster described 2 inches of ice from an ice storm. They didn't say snow which had frozen into ice giving a mixture somewhat granular in structure rather than being "ice." I am well aware of how snow can be hit by a rain which permeats the structure leaving the "slushy" drink kind of granular mix, which is hard, but not nearly as hard as solid ice. And the original poster was talking Cleveland.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I thought the point was that there was no need to idle your car in an ice storm since no one is going anywhere anyway. Between zero traction and breaking limbs taking all the powerlines out, why would you want to chip the ice away from the door handle in the first place just to crank the car?

    Maybe if your power was out for 3 days and you wanted to get warm.

    I'll take a foot of snow over .3" of ice any day. :)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    Oh, that's right. The point was some felt remote starts and idling was inconsiderate.

    The slushy-freeze type of snow we get here occasionally will soften after a few minutes of idlling and scraping. A half inch quarter inch of ice on the window is there for a long time, even when the air in the car warms up.

    >was no need to idle your car in an ice storm since no one is going anywhere anyway.

    Those were some of the best late morning sleep-ins I have had. Wake up, ice, school canceled for the kid and wife, and just go back to sleep knowing a very few people are out there trying to go somewhere to get to work. Even the air force base delays non emergency personnel -- they say something like only mission critical personnel need to report on time.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ponderpointponderpoint Member Posts: 277
    I'm a geezer driver. usually in the right lane. 695 Inner on the west side of Baltimore. VERY fast moving vehicle becomes impatient with other semi-fast vehicles in lanes to the left, thinks there's a "hole" in the right lane only to find me..... Bummer.

    A. It's the right lane, I'm already doing sixty.
    B. I doubt the truck in front of me is going to move.
    C. Flashing lights will not move the truck in front of me.
    D. Tailgating will not move the truck in front of me either.
    E. The entrance ramp vehicles will probably make it worse.
    G. It's pathetic to watch you as the left lanes clear out again.

    Most drivers understand that traffic will move about sixty to sixty five mph regardless of the speed limit of fifty-five and your impatience is NOT their problem, especially if they're not in the left lanes... Get a clue.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    Rural two lane roads on outskirts of Dayton area. I'm driving slowly because I have a 60 inch tempered storm door glass in my Buick pickup truck--in the trunk, well protected by padding, but I'm driving to keep the deck lid from putting much up/down force on the board above the tempered glass. Raining.

    2000+ leSabre in the light brown with large chrome wheels (urban car) passes the car behind me and me using the turn lanes at the stoplighted intersection and passes in the intersection. Caught up with him two miles later sitting at a stoplight. He was in the left turn lane. When light changed, he gunned it ahead of the green and passed the car sitting in the through lane and cut back over.

    Dangerous. But he got nowhere by speeding and illegal passing.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • the_big_althe_big_al Member Posts: 1,079
    I see these drivers at least once a day... The lane switchers trying to move ahead in traffic. They usually don't make very much progress. The right lane always moves at one speed and the left another. I have found that if I stay in one lane or the other, I always get to where I am going at about the same rate... so it does no good to lane hop.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    Hahahah; your "Buick pickup truck" huh? That cracked me up.

    I have never seen someone pull that move before, but it does not surprise me. As Al mentioned in the previous post, all that lane hopping rarely serves to get someone ahead. Traffic lights are "the great equalizer." :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,032
    Hahahah; your "Buick pickup truck" huh? That cracked me up.

    That reminds me of something similar I did with my grandmother's '85 LeSabre. I had a 4-foot wide screen for a sliding glass door that needed to be re-screened. The trunk of that LeSabre was actually wide enough to swallow it...something that I don't think most modern cars could do. I think it only fit about half-way in though, so the trunk had to stay open.

    I also used to haul 4x8 sheets of various building materials on the roof of that car from time to time.

    Traffic lights are "the great equalizer."

    That, they certainly are. I try to time the lights sometimes. If I see a red light, instead of speeding up to it and then slamming on the brakes, I'll just start coasting, hopefully being able to get through the light without having to come to a stop. That sometimes irritates the drivers behind me, though. I guess they'd rather waste their gas and brake pads.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    If that thing has a fold down rear seats it would be fantastic. But my 98 actually seems to be better in width and holding large things than my 2003.

    The expression on the two glass guys carrying the heavy door out to the trunk was priceless. One guy looked to see if the seats folded down for more room. I had it all planned out. He said, "Good luck" as though he expected me to fracture the glass. That glass bends and curves under its own weight, so I was afraid a big bump might flex it too much and $100 was gone. But I got home at 35 mph.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    I have an appointment at the Mega-doctors mall today. This parking lot is huge, it can hold a thousand cars easily. It is only about half full.

    I'm driving my nice newer red car and since I'm still young enough to walk I park it at the far end of the lot so that I won't have any clowns opening their doors into my shiny ride. I'm about 500 feet from the building so I figure I'll be safe. There are 10 empty spaces to my right and maybe 50 to my left.

    As you guessed, when I come out there is my car flanked on both sides by old POSs. No other cars anywhere around.

    When I got home I was washing the car and that's right, a scratch on the passengers side door. :mad:

    What is it with these idiots?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    What is it with these idiots?

    E N V Y :mad:
  • the_big_althe_big_al Member Posts: 1,079
    and they do it on purpose too I'll bet.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    As Al mentioned in the previous post, all that lane hopping rarely serves to get someone ahead.

    At my previous job I traveled about 5 or 6 miles down this one road. I had it down to an exact science when to change lanes, there were 4 spots along this road where I would change lanes. These spots were where the lane I was in always started to slow down greatly and the other lane sped up. Worked like a charm, after I figured this out I shaved 10 minutes off my commute.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    As you guessed, when I come out there is my car flanked on both sides by old POSs. No other cars anywhere around.

    I used to work in a mall and we were required to park at the far end of the lot. Many times I parked next to or near new cars.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    "...Many times I parked next to or near new cars..."

    Why? :confuse:

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,456
    I think he had to, as the cars were in his designated parking area.

    I don't park out in the boonies anymore, as with your experience, it attracts other cars. I think it might even be something subconscious. I will often prefer to park between cars that look well kept, like mine. Chances are the guy who takes care of his car is less likely to injure your car than the guy who just doesn't care.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    That is the real clue. I also look for where the employees park as they might be less likely to function the doors if they are somewhere else.... working for example.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Why? Well mainly because they would park next to or near my usual parking space. I usually parked in the same space (or near it), if they parked near where I usually parked do I have to change my habits?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

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