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Move on or get off the road.
I have to say I like what my city did by changing a free turn intersection into a turn arrow, to get the obstructors moving. Traffic backs up less frequently at said intersection now. Just when I think the overpaid traffic "engineer" bozos are hopeless, they do something right :shades:
I love how close the trucks get on those roads...really, some of Europe is little different. I think people from wide open parts of NA would wet themselves at the lack of space around them. You have to drive within the lines or you'll hit something, no weaving around and not paying attention like they do here.
i know of none which prohibit it - but anyone please do tell.
a cool example is a 2 lane oneway crossing another 2 lane oneway - both lanes can go left on red. i think i actually learned this in traffic school in california :} :shades:
If you call in someone as a suspected drunk driver simply because they are stopped at a red light you will get no response from the police.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Sounds like what the idiot tailgating me in the left kane going down the Stevenson last night. Only problem was that there was someone in front of me, and someone in front of him and so on and so forthlikely all the way from Chicago to St. Louis.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
On may way to work I get off the tollway and at the end of the ramp is a traffic light where I turn right onto a street that is two lanes in each direction. Occasionally I am the first in line at the light and the only traffic approaching from my left is in the left lane and idiots behind me lay on the horn to get me to go. :sick:
Never mind that the law states traffic must be clear from both directions not just the right lane of the direction your turning into.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Today I had 2 cars blindly pull out in front of me, both from parking lots. One was a Lexus RX who then went about 20 in a 40, so I got to pass on the right as I gave a flash. Driver met every stereotype, probably didn't even see me.
Driving needs to be taught as a more serious matter from the beginning.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Proving malice is not needed, all we would have to do is prove that you lied about what the other car was doing.
One could easily hazard a guess that a person just sitting there obstructing traffic might be suffering from some kind of impairment
Absolutely not, someone doing something perfectly legal is not a reason to suspect them of being impaired. Talk about being melodramatic. Gee follow the law and make someone 2 seconds late to the next stoplight and get called in as a suspected drunk. Tell me what would you think if someone called you in as a suspected drunk simply because you were going slower than them?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Not too often a wolf crosses your path eh?
It's not legal to obstruct traffic. This is really no different from a militant LLCer - another American-esque roadway disease that needs to be purged.
You old law and order-ers are amazing...if you don't want to be called in, move over before someone makes you. You don't have a choice. I'll call you in and you won't be able to do anything about it...you'll have no clue who did it...
Are you running into traffic with other vehicles on the road? Is there a 4 pm jam as people head home from work?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Just because you see no reason not to make the turn on red doesn't mean that there isn't any. In reality there is no reason to call in as an impaired driver who isn't doing anything wrong.
You old law and order-ers are amazing
It's not a law and order thing as you want to portray it. simple fact that it is allowed but not mandatory. If they happen to be infront of you and for whatever reason don't turn then deal with it. Chill out you'll live longer.
I'll call you in and you won't be able to do anything about it...you'll have no clue who did it...
The call center you call will know, there the ones that take a dim view on false police reports.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
It's not mandatory to drive over the speed limit, but hold people up in the left lane, and you can be cited. If you don't like to be honked at (or worse) for being illogical at best, tough, deal with it. Or, move over and let actual motorists past, then be on your way. Wouldn't that be a sign of being mellow too? Why is the onus only one one?
Call center? ROFLMAO you have to be kidding. I could just keep a prepaid phone around for calling in idiots. Take that dim view, prosecute me, bring it on.
Silly old law and order-ers
Nothing is showing that they are. In this country we are innocent until proven guilty.
It's not mandatory to drive over the speed limit
Actually it is illegal to drive over the speed limit. So right from the start your argument is false.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
In my area, you can be ticketed for upholding speeders in the left lane, even if you are abiding by the law otherwise. It's the same thing, obstructing traffic. LLCers are related to free turn non-takers. A scourge on the roadways.
And on the subject of idiot drivers, I had my old beast out today, and three stick in my mind. First, a newer Odyssey that pulls out in front of me from a driveway onto a 40mph 2 lane road. Right out in front of me, I had to dive on the brakes. Then they crawled at about 30. As the road is twisty I couldn't pass, so I flashed my lights a few times, and they sped up and moved along. How can anyone miss that old car? Another mental defective who would sit at a free turn, most likely. Second was a Corolla pulling out from a dealer's holding lot. Well, it didn't pull out...as I was approaching, it lurched out about 40 feet away as I was approaching at about 45. It screeched to a stop as I passed by. Again, how does anyone miss that car? Big, old, fins and chrome, whitewall tires, shiny, odd color...it should stick out. Third winner was another Odyssey, this one older, old man driver. Comes to a random stop in the middle of a 2 lane 30mph road with a middle turn lane. As there is no traffic in either direction, I go around in the turn lane. As I get around, he lays into it and gets right behind me. Then I kick it up a little, and he drops way back. We need mandatory testing for some drivers.
I have driven "lights on at all times" for decades.
You're anonymous right now, aren't you? :P
I don't drive with the fintail's lights on unless it is dark - I figure the color, chrome, and weird looks should make it stand out, but the modern car has lights on at all times too.
Around here what I have seen on multiple occasions are twits who will turn from a straight only lane - which can cause unfortunate metal to metal contact.
Years ago I used to work at Universal Studios in Florida I was almost hit on a daily basis on the way through the intersection just outside of the parking garage. People would turn left from the right turn lane or right from the left turn lane on a regular basis.
One time I almost rear ended someone who was in the right turn lane when I swerved right with the expectation that they were going to turn left. Unfortunately he was actually turning right. I guess this would have made me the inconsiderate one that day.
you deprecated a driver who stopped in the road without you knowing why. people do that sometimes - seems like you must have been ready for it! if he stopped suddenly/dangerously in a travel-lane for no valid/safety reason, that is a driver who I'd report to the police too!
also you deprecated "old law-abiders" - so I wonder what is your age-cutoff for law-abiders? Are law-abiders OK if they are under 40?
I encourage you to keep reporting any wacky/impaired/dangerous driver according to your best judgement. If you get the plate #, you can also report in writing to your state's "RMV". Your letter/complaint will go into the other driver's record - and yours.
One time I called in the "wackiest driver ever", and the state cop dispatcher asked me to follow within-reason to see which direction he chose at I-95. The wacky driver had passed me on mostly-empty 3-lane highway (55 mph limit) doing about 90 mph - amazing sparks flying from the rim/undercarriage - at least one tire was absent. I could have followed but politely declined the dispatcher's invitation to do that - it was too scary - too mahy sparks & pieces flying off the car - and the driver was clearly dangerous/insane/suicidal. I called back a few minutes later to ask if they had caught the guy, and indeed they had stopped him on the feeder-ramp to I-95 N.
Something else I see all too often around here is people who make turns from the far lane - right turn from the left lane etc. I see it almost daily. That can have bad consequences too.
I also have to doubt my state keeps records of random anonymous complaints. Seems above and beyond their capability. Not worth the effort. Although I have thought of getting a headrest camera mount and putting my drives on Youtube for all to see.
I said "law-and-orders"...nothing wrong with "abiding" by the law, but screaming about others breaking the law, your own following of the law, or trying to pretend that you are a deputized LEO (like a LLC) is a different matter. A lot of these types also like to abide by one law but ignore others (like those regarding obstruction of traffic). And I do think there should be a simple battery of tests for drivers maybe by the time they hit the mid 60s, and every several years later.
I wouldn't want to follow a car that could be shedding parts either.
I don't depreciate people. Their own actions depreciate themselves. People just need to pay attention, or postpone their driving until they can pay attention. Or look in the mirror - if you've got a line behind you and nobody in front of you, time to change something.
Whoa! That's awesome, Steve! Not too often at all does that happen. I have seen one in my years in Alaska, which could by all accounts be considered "wolf country." I considered myself very fortunate to be in the right place at just the right time. Other elusive beasts are the lynx and the puma/mountain lion/cougar. I have spotted two of the former (only a few minutes apart at that!) and one of the latter while driving.
They are all gorgeous animals.
In other news, this was pretty inconsiderate. Jeep Runs Through Barber Shop. Focused Barber Continues Cut. (Straightline)
The guy acts like it's happened before; maybe if it had been a (Mercury) Cougar coming through the door, he'd get a bit excited. :shades:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp3ryvUtICY
1. You are turning onto a one way street from a one way.
2. You are turning from a two way onto a one way.
The trooper said that it is legal to turn left at a red light onto a freeway onramp because the ramp is technically a one way street. I never think about doing it but figured that I should have kept that newspaper article if I ever tried it and got pulled over.
Looks like Michigan lets you turn left on red onto a one way one lane or two lane. They also have something here called the Michigan left turn that I haven't figured out. I don't drive many four lanes anymore though.
I guess NJ has "jug handle" left turns. Anything to keep the traffic moving.
Luckily they only required a vision test when I got my license a few weeks back.
To speak of inconsiderates...I've been trying to get into jogging, and every time I go out, I see insane stuff. Worst offenders are free turners who cut in front of moving traffic, people who lurch into crosswalks (had to do the old football/hockey dodge many times) and unsignalled random turns. I might end up being an even more aware driver simply based on the idiocy I witness on foot.
Thanks for posting that. Now I know why TomTom didn't take me all the way on MI-12 to Sheldon Road: there was no left turn there. Instead it had me do a U-turn and go back to the previous crossroad and go around the square to get to the road I wanted to take northbound.
Now is there somewhere that explains their crazy left turn arrows. Along Ford and Warren Rds at the west edge of Wayne County they have solid red, flashing red, flashing yellow, and of course green arrows.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,