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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Fun sunny Sunday with lots of mentally baked drivers on the road, as per usual in the great PNW. I first drove today at about 0900, to get the old car. I forgot about a morning annoyance - seniors driving on Sunday mornings. In separate instances saw two little old ladies in 20 year old Buicks going about half the speed limit. One of them actually sped up as I tore past at the speed limit on the nose, then abruptly turned off into a church parking lot - her lord must have had something important! :shades: Then got behind a beat old landscaping truck going 25 in a 40, driver without a care in the world, elbow out and spaced out. Then I picked up the old car, went to the gas station, almost got hit by a spoiled old yuppiecouple in a surprisingly dirty and even dented Q5 - yeah, those sky blue chrome laden old cars just blend in with the background. That demographic is going to be awesome in another 20 years. I then drove in the old car in an area bordering 520 - closed for the weekend due to construction, all on and off ramps closed. The idiots around here are so oblivious, WSDOT has to actually put people at the on-ramps to prevent the morons from trying to enter a closed road - I saw two people turned away...this closure has been on the news for weeks. And as a finale, after I dropped the old car off and was driving back home, saw a large woman in a Civic with little kids in it driving about 20 over, weaving in and out of traffic, tailgating...but she lost out to the great equalizer. Not stoplights, but local "new residents". I thought her head was going to explode when she got stuck behind one in a Corolla with one of those wide rear view mirrors going about 10 under and making random lane changes, multiculturalism is grand.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    The company that ran the red light camera scam in Los Angeles, CA was allowed to have its contract run out, with no renewal.

    The city wasn't making enough money from the scameras, so they opted to get rid of the program.

    Saftey wasn't even a concern for the politicians. Having said that, we are all SAFER without the cameras.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    Here are the targets of your complaints: " two little old ladies" "spoiled old yuppiecouple" "large woman" "local "new residents"" combined with negative references to "multiculturalism"
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    edited August 2011
    Keep him talking long enough and he will be an equal opportunity "hate em all" hater! Or maybe he gives special consideration to certain biases.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    You can read, congrats :shades:

    Describing oblivious drivers is not a crime, even if it doesn't conform to the dumbed down lowest common denominator PC world that some strive for...
  • jwilliams2jwilliams2 Member Posts: 910
    Describing oblivious drivers is not a crime....

    Of course not. It's not what you say, but how you say it. :shades:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    If someone is offended...well...too bad, so sad ;)

    It's too easy to drive here, and we let many drive who shouldn't.
  • jwilliams2jwilliams2 Member Posts: 910
    edited August 2011
    Yes, but it kind of reminds me of my Brother-in-Law. He always has sarcastic, caustic, and demeaning comments about everyone and everything. As a result, no one wants to be around him. Of course, this gives him lots of time to post on various internet forums. ;)
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,946
    He always has sarcastic, caustic, and demeaning comments about everyone and everything

    Sounds like a nice guy! :P

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  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    It is amazing how much time you have to interview all these category "subpar drivers".
  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    Since the old car gets little use, I would imagine the gas in the tank gets pretty old, and if you are using ethanol gas, it can ruin your day(wallet).

    Once it's a couple weeks old, it's absorbing water and damaging the fuel system in the car.

    Is there any place you can buy real gas?

    Down here in Oregon, there's a chain of stations(Pacific Pride) that sells non-ethanol fuel. I buy it for my "farm truck", 'cause it takes about 3-4 months to use a tank.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    It's amazing how much time you have to read my categorizations and then question me about them ;)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I drive it every 2 weeks or so, it usually gets about 1000 miles of use in a year, so I don't think it gets too bad. I add a little gas each time I drive it (as the gas gauge is iffy), so maybe that keeps it fresh. The car is also stored in a garage. It just gets Chevron premium, same as my modern car.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited August 2011
    Should I be saying nice things about inconsiderate drivers? This thread is meant for less than positive remarks about idiotic drivers.

    Maybe I should applaud the dumbing down of our roadways to a third world standard? Or be giving thanks to those who both encourage it and participate in it?
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    That is because I read it when I am not driving.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    It's amazing to me how easy it is to generate all this post action by simply copying pasting someone's post. ;)

    hmmmm...what shall I try next to see each of you jump high :P
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    After the education I've been providing on the roads in San diego for the last 9 years, I'm going to say San diego Drivers have improved to the point I can give them a passing grade of a C. Lots of room for improvement, but in 2002/2003 they have received a D.

    Sacramento drivers would have gotten an F+, but I have no experience up there since 2002.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited August 2011
    Meanwhile, can we stick to sticking it to the inconsiderate drivers and avoid the personal references on here?

    thanks.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,681
    How does one fine out for sure what sort of blend (or non-blend) a station uses? I have a few vehicles that fall into this category, and I never thought about it before.... but maybe I should!
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • the_big_althe_big_al Member Posts: 1,079
    I think they are required to post what the blend is right on the pump? I also know that the 76 stations around here take great pride in proclaiming that their premium gas is 100% pure gasoline with no added ethanol. They use it as a marketing tool because of all the terrible things ethanol blended gas does to a vehicle.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    edited August 2011
    Upon further reflection I'll say the insurance industry isn't quite as bad and corrupt as I once had thought. The auto insurance industry and I certainly got off onto the wrong foot for sure. However, the things Geico has done for my brother in law, Mercury has done for me, and State Farm did for someone that hit me, has led me to believe while there are some REALLY shady insurance companies out there to be avoided at all costs (Bristol West, Hudson), there are also some really good companies with good claims adjusters and agents who will not only treat you fairly, but also provide good customer service.

    I still think it's garbage that when a city cop hits you they don't consider a self-insured gov't entity like the City to be Uninsured/underinsured since they are self-insured.

    Self insurance is exactly the same to me as being under or uninsured, and should fall under that coverage with a deductible waiver (if you bought that coverage). The city takes a lot longer to pay a claim than does State Farm. However, that being said, Mercury was nice enough to waive my deductible and pay for the repairs while THEY waited on the city to pay them (rather than making me wait for the City to write a check to me).

    If someone is self insured through a bond in CA, do you think they'd make you treat Joe Blow like the city and let them take 2 months plus to pay you back?
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    What kinds of MB's do you have?

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    E55 AMG and a 220SE made a few years before the Crusades :shades:

    Today's inconsiderate - phone yapper holding his device in his left hand, in a 4x4 Tundra going 5 under and holding up a line of traffic. Biker cop saw him, looked at him, did nothing.
  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    You are correct, that they have to post if the gas contains ethanol or not.

    In the town near me, there's 1 place that sells the real gas. It's intended for power tools, etc.

    they also sell #2 diesel, which you can't use for on-road vehicles.

    Once I explained my concern about the ethanol gas in my farm truck(and the fact that the guy was a big military supporter, and my son is currently serving), he graciously lets me use his gas for the truck.

    HOOAH!!!
    :)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited September 2011
    Seattle drivers among the worst I don't believe it, here in the land of the LLC and the 40mph freeway merge. Amusing comments there, too.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Funny, but I have driven in the (stated) best (Ft. Collins, Co) and the worst (Wash. DC). I have probably driven in most, but they didn't list them all. Driving in Seattle? To me just the normal "bigger city nuisances.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I was exiting a parking lot today, going to turn left. A CR-V with a middle-aged woman driver drove into the left turn lane to enter the same lot. The nearest car was a block away, moving about 30 mph. Plenty of time to turn (and adjust the rear view mirror, check lipstick, turn off the radio, etc. etc.). But she waited. So I waited, not knowing exactly when she would decide to turn, also she had the right of way. So we ALL waited until those cars finally passed, then she turned (very slowly) and I could finally leave the parking lot.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited September 2011
    The people here are the slowest - both in speed and in situational awareness - that I have ever experienced, and I have driven in many states and a several other countries.

    Yesterday had an old woman yell at me with her window down that I was going the wrong way (in a grocery store parking lot). A wide two way parking area. Diminishing faculties combined with arrogance - not a good combination. And in 25 years it is going to be a disaster out there with the older set.

    This morning had a new resident satellite child in a late model M3 come pretty close to running a stop sign as he was zooming down a side street - had he not stopped he might have clipped me. But I guess I am being unfair - if someone has money, they deserve respect, even if it is the 19 year old devilspawn of some corrupt official who was allowed to buy their way in to our devolving future 2nd world idiocracy. Also saw a guy in a new (likely leased) A4 going about 50 in a 30, and never once touching his signal as he weaved around the 4 lane road. Looks like Jeremy Clarkson's claims about Audi drivers are coming true, the US does tend to lag a few years behind such trends. And to top it off, an old man in a pretty blue and white 55 Bel Air convertible, nice older looking restoration, out for a cruise with his granddaughters - who were standing up and climbing around in the car as it was going 25-30. Safety.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    And in 25 years it is going to be a disaster out there with the older set.

    And... that will be us. Can't wait to yell at some young whippersnapper that he's going the wrong way in a parking lot.

    Do leased A4s tend to go faster than purchased A4s? :confuse: How can you tell a car is leased just from looking at it? From other posts here, we know the A4 driver was within his rights to drive 50 in a 30 zone and not use his signal because drivers of cars with superior abilities don't have to follow the same rules as everyone else. Haven't you been following the discussion??
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Won't be me, the boomers will be making that mess. Refusing to grow old, will clutch that license in their hands until death.

    A lot of these lower line prestige brands are leased, and the [non-permissible content removed] showoff crowd are big leasers. Just putting two and two together, could be wrong, but a good chance that it isn't. If it offends, I will give you a number you can call :shades: And to be honest, had he signaled or not weaved around, I would have been less irked. We can't all be deadly dull Sonata and Sentra drivers ;)

    Your superior abilities rant would be well spoken hanging out in the Eastgate area of Bellevue watching the WSP zoom around to have breaks and meals with their coworkers.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    edited September 2011
    Don't look at me, I don't have those cars with so-called "superior abilities." You are thinking of other posters here who have such cars... or think they do. I just have regular, slow cars... about as slow as that old fintail. :)

    I was reading an article the other day about the large number of 20-somethings millionaires in the USA. Some people have managed to make a lot of money even during the recession. I'll bet they don't have to lease their cars. But if they did... it would not matter wrt this discussion.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited September 2011
    I wasn't looking at you. I would expect you to be going 5 under in the left lane in one of those toasters more than going anything over in any lane, or making any kind of change of direction :P

    What does a "large" (relative to what, substantiated by what, claimed by whom?) number of supposed young millionaires in this era of social networking upstart idiocy have to do with anything in this thread? Weird distraction, fail. You are right it doesn't matter with this discussion, millionaires of any bent don't drive boring lowline A4s.

    My posts obviously irk you - word to the wise, see "fintail" and skip the post, more pleasant than the heartburn caused by anyone who dares to make educated guesses ;)
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I would expect you to be going 5 under in the left lane in one of those toasters more than going anything over in any lane, or making any kind of change of direction.

    I don't know why in the world you would expect that, but you would be dead wrong.

    What does a "large" (relative to what, substantiated by what, claimed by whom?) number of supposed young millionaires in this era of social networking upstart idiocy have to do with anything in this thread?

    What does whether an A4 is leased or not have anything to do with this thread?

    I recommend you skip my replies to your posts if they bother you. Then you can sally forth making wild guesses about whether people buy or lease cars etc. unencumbered by facts. :)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited September 2011
    I think your attitude here would have me expecting that, vehicle choices too.

    From all personal experience I have, the "lease a lowline prestige" set tends to abuse their cars, and be jerky in a general - ie: the type who would be going 50%+ over the limit and weaving around without signals. Again, this might be a tough concept, it's called an educated guess. I could be wrong, but I would actually put money on me being right. Maybe it's different from where I live - where some young millionaires actually take residence, than in boring middle America. And don't answer a question with a question, it is bad form :P

    I post, you reply. I don't obsess about your original posts. You are the one who needs not reply, otherwise it gives the impression you have some kind of fixation. If I was harping on your original posts, I would be the guilty one, but I am not. Simple, if you don't like the cut of my jib, leave me alone - your recourse ends there.

    Do you have any inconsiderate drivers to discuss, or only crying about someone who dares to make educated guesses?
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Your "educated guess" about my driving habits was dead wrong. So much for educated guesses.

    Why are you fixated on my personal driving habits? You've never seen me drive, so you have no idea what they are like other than what I've described here. And that is nothing like your "educated guess."

    I post my observations on inconsiderate drivers all the time here. I just don't tend to post my "educated guesses" about whether the cars I see driving around are leased or not, or whether drivers abuse their cars, or whether they are jerks in general or just did something ill-advised. I have no idea. I'd rather not guess on it... can lead to all kinds of problems when we make guesses about people based on one quick observation.
  • pat85pat85 Member Posts: 92
    I have to admit I took more chances in a rental car than I would in my own car.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    A lease isn't a rental. I actually drive my leased car more carefully than cars I own, because I know how picky leasing companies can be on damage. Rentals... ever try holding your rental contract so it's visible, to let people know, "It's a rental and I don't give a d***"? ;) Now that could actually relate to the topic at hand... are drivers of rental cars more inconsiderate than others? Hmmm...
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Ah I see now, I stereotyped a jerky driver in a car that is often leased, you have leased cars, so it was taken personally. My bad. Well, maybe not, I am not the one with thin skin.

    Educated guesses can be made via the type of car and the driver. I'll take the claims as claims and leave it at that.

    You can post your observations how you like, I will post how I like, and the world will be beautiful. I can guess about things, you can refrain, and everything will be peachy. Got a deal?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I am actually the opposite. I don't want a fishy damage claim when I give it back, and I try to be respectful of something I have been trusted with that I don't own - I wouldn't trash a rental house etc either. My last rental car had 4 miles on it when I picked it up - I was easy on it through the rental period, no hard acceleration etc, to try to give it a little break in time, as there was a good chance the next driver wouldn't be so nice.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Ah I see now, I stereotyped a jerky driver in a car that is often leased, you have leased cars, so it was taken personally.

    Another "educated guess" on which you are dead wrong. Not a good hit rate today. :(

    Guess away, it's a free country we have the privilege of living in. But IMO, "educated" guess is a big stretch. More like "wild-a**" guess. :)
  • hammerheadhammerhead Member Posts: 907
    Can you guys call a truce? This is usually a happy place, despite the topic being somewhat inflammatory. I don't much care for the personal digs, and I'm guessing nobody else does either. Take it to e-mail if you must. Thanks.

    Cheers! (and I mean that sincerely!) :)
    Paul
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited September 2011
    I will take that "O" for what it is worth, and ignore the whine from now on. Good day to you.

    And on topic, maybe because it is a holiday and surface street volumes are light, I didn't see any remarkably bad driving at all, I was out for a couple hours and it was really pretty nice and boring. Worst thing I saw was a Lexus SC that went straight in a turn only lane, but it didn't get close to hitting anything as the straight lane was dawdling. Wish every day was like this.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,242
    Yes, the personal digs are getting old. Let's knock it off.

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  • hammerheadhammerhead Member Posts: 907
    Thanks, Kirstie... didn't mean to elbow in on your territory. :blush:
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,681
    Oh, I don't know... I've never really preferred "boring," but, if you're referring to a lack of inconsiderates, that sort of boring is alright by me! :D

    I was an inconsiderate pedestrian yesterday....
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    Going to work this morning 6:30 in the rain. On ramp where two lanes merge into one before entering the highway. I merged left behind a tractor-trailer. A SUV with MA plates roars up behind me and tailgates a few feet from my bumper on rain slick roads.

    Where did he think he was going to make me go? We were all in one lane and the truck was determining the pace.

    It was all explained to me when, after we had entered the highway, and he blasted past me, I saw the big Boston Red Sox emblem on the back of his car. :P

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    Do bad drivers congregate towards bad insurance companies?

    Found this online from "The American Association of Justice (AAJ)"

    Conclusions about the industry

    The AAJ came to the following conclusions about the insurance industry as a whole:

    •Companies consistently put profits over policyholders. The report concludes that many insurance companies may “talk the talk”, but don’t “walk the walk.” They may advertise that your “in good hands”, are “like a good neighbor” or “provide the strength to be there”, but fall short when it comes to actually serving their customers.
    •Companies continually deny, delay and defend. Insurance companies make more money when they pay out fewer claims. Obvious? Yes. Ethical? No. The industry as a whole routinely denies, delays and defends claims – all in the name of the “bottom line.”
    •Profits and salaries are skyrocketing. The property/casualty and life insurance industries average $30B in profits every year. In fact, the U.S. insurance industry as a whole receives premiums of over $1 trillion (with a “T”) every year and has assets of $3.8 trillion.
    The Chief Executive Officers (CEOs) of the ten insurers in the report averaged an annual salary of nearly $9 million in 2007.
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    I can't agree with you. I never had any issues with customer service with my insurance company. I usually deal with my agent who knows me real well. The few times I have made claims they were paid out promptly. FWIW last time I just went to the claims adjuster and in ten minutes had a check in hand for the repairs.

    In fact, the U.S. insurance industry as a whole receives premiums of over $1 trillion (with a “T”) every year and has assets of $3.8 trillion.

    Gee just a trillion in a country with over 330 million people. Thats not that much. Plus by law for every dollar of policy written an insurance company has to have several dollars of assets to cover losses. I will have to check that one out to get the exact figure.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited September 2011
    I've never had to file an insurance claim greater than a windshield chip in my life, so I don't know how bad they are, but IMO there is some kind of fishy relationship between LEO tactics and insurance profits. Not an industry that deserves sympathy or defense, it is just one step away from our criminal banksters. It's not completely attached to claims agents and adjustors etc who I think as a whole probably deliver reasonable service.

    Another nice easy boring commute today, traffic wasn't heavy, no exceptional doofs out on the road. But while jogging I did get to see something pretty dumb, a slacks and tie type (no gear other than helmet) on a large displacement sportbike, looked like he first rode a bike last week. Pulled up into an intersection to turn left, had to stop for oncoming traffic, no signal of course...wobbled around and then almost dumped it, struggling to keep it upright...then lurched it down the side street, eventually. Had he dumped it I would have laughed. Schadenfreude.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Today's fun - too many phone yappers, too few turn signalers. Three cheers for the lowest common denominator.
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