Ford Freestyle - Taurus X

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  • coldcrankercoldcranker Member Posts: 877
    Yes, the fuel tank straps are about as easy as recalls get ----- easily accessible from underneath and quick to change. They don't have to take anything apart to get to it.
  • cat992gcat992g Member Posts: 2
    I have read several comments here about the longevity of the Freestyle. One comment mentioned it was going out of production in 2007. I am thinking of buying a Freestyle but cautious of resale down the road if the vehicle is not in production. Does anyone know for certain Fords plans for this Vehicle?
  • coldcrankercoldcranker Member Posts: 877
    The Freestyle is not going out of production in 2007. That was a false report that got spread widely. They may alter some of the styling for 2007 somewhat.
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Here is a reference from post # 5451 on the reported Freestyle future. Note the link at the bottom.
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    Apparently Ford finally figured out they got a winner on their hands. The Freestyle is such a great all round vehicle it just doesn't make sense to not promote it into one of their best sellers.

    Sure the Edge has that gimmicky new wave look but it doesn't have three rows of seats. The Explorer and Expedition do but they are gas hungry, exspensive, and drive like trucks err I mean suv's.

    What a great family vehicle the Freestyle is on all fronts.

    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060123/SUB/60120098/1003
  • cat992gcat992g Member Posts: 2
    Hey this info and site is great, thanks for the feedback.
  • renewrenew Member Posts: 5
    We had a winter snowstorm here in Ct yesterday that proved to me that my Freestyle AWD was the right choice. Where I live is all very steep and curvy hills. We had a slushy,icy mix and my Freestyle never slipped once. Other FWD cars and even a few foreign 4x4 trucks were slipping all over. I've had F150's with 4 wheel drive that weren't this good. I'm sure if the snow was very deep it might be another story, but I'm very happy with this car. This is the best Ford vehicle I've had in a long time!
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    Question, any opinions out there regarding this. Taking a piece of tape or paper or such and placing it in front of the light sensor to have the lights come on during the day when the headlight switch is turned to Auto. I've wanted to do this but worry about affecting the electrical system.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    I was wondering that too. I like the auto headlights for the most part, but they're a pain at dusk and dawn when they keep switching on and off. If you go under some trees, then out in the open again. I wish they were set up to stay on once the sensor indicated the light was low, and even only reset to off after you turn off the car.
  • passat_2002passat_2002 Member Posts: 468
    It would have no effect on your electrical system save for the additional load on your alternator because the lights would be on anytime your engine is running, even on a bright sunny day. However your battery would not last as long as it would otherwise because since the car thinks it's night all the time it would turn on all outside & inside lights everytime you unlock your vehicle as well as leaving these same lights on for a period of time after you shut of the engine. It already does this for you at night when it is appropriate. It would look pretty dumb during the day.

    There is little point in defeating the daytime/nightime logic of the autolamp system. If you absolutely must have your headlamps and tailamps on during the day, you can always just simply turn them on, can't you?
  • kcomefordkcomeford Member Posts: 4
    Hi, guys. I am new to this board. I just ordered my Freestyle Ltd fwd Silver w/black interior. Dealer, who is a friend of mine said 3-6 weeks. I can't wait. My husband test drove one yesterday and was impressed. I have been impressed since my first test drive about a month ago. I'm sure I will be asking questions on this board once my new wheels arrive. Thanks for being here!

    Karen in NC
  • min1min1 Member Posts: 20
    I would have rathered have daytime running lights and the auto on lamp feature that I had with my Canadian Impala. I have had a few near misses where people haven't seen me, since I got the Freestyle last month. Might have had about the same amount in the whole time I drove my Impala (6 years). Daytime running lights do help people to see you, and so I can understand why people would want to have their lights on at all times without having to turn them on and off when starting and stopping the car.
    As for how to make that happen, I am not sure.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    If somebody can't see you in your Freestyle, they need glasses, not DTRL on your vehicle. :P

    PS: There may be some 3rd-party kits to convert over to the DTRL.
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    Since it's light out I doubt anyone would notice if my interior lights were coming on so I won't feel too stupid. My desire is to have DTRL for safety. As much as I want to have them I can't seem to remember or get in the habit of turning on the headlights. I wish Ford would have included this feature on the Freestyle. It's a proven method to improve safety and that's my main objective, not what people will think.
  • coldcrankercoldcranker Member Posts: 877
    I think DRLs are great. Wish I had it, too. I may try to fit some fog lights (low on the bumper) on my FreeS and wire them so they come on anytime the ignition switch is on. I've never thought you need rear lights on in the daytime, so the fog-light DRL concept is my favorite.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    The LTD comes with fog lights. But, even in the auto-light position, they don't come on unless the headlights come on.

    I suspect there'd be a way to re-wire it so that they would, though.
  • passat_2002passat_2002 Member Posts: 468
    "Since it's light out I doubt anyone would notice if my interior lights were coming on so I won't feel too stupid."

    No, it would be all the outside lights as well. Just as it does so now at night.

    "It's a proven method to improve safety..."

    Dubious in my opinion... but to each his own.

    You do realize of course that simply having your headlights on during the day is not the same as true DRL's.

    If you want DRL's on your Freestyle then you can do as several have done over at myford500.com and ask your dealer to contact Ford engineering for the software codes that will "turn-on" the DRL feature. The dealer's service department must do the work. From what I understand it's easier to accomplish on a '06 than an '05, but can be done on both. Some dealer's may be more receptive to doing this than others. Those who have had it done say it cost only the labor charge to do.. about $75.00.
  • passat_2002passat_2002 Member Posts: 468
    Karen,

    Welecome to the club. Let us know how you like things when your Freebie arrives and you get some miles on her.
  • min1min1 Member Posts: 20
    ask your dealer to contact Ford engineering for the software codes that will "turn-on" the DRL feature

    Wow, hadn't even thought of the idea that they probably just have to change some codes in the software for the car to be enabled for DRL. I will inquire with my dealer about it since I have really noticed an increase in the people who just don't appear to see me, since switching to a vehicle without them. Lots of people pulling out in front of me and making rather risky left hand turns in front of me.
    Thanks for pointing out something that I really should have thought of!!!!!!!!
  • passat_2002passat_2002 Member Posts: 468
    You're quite welcome. But like I said before, some dealer's may be more receptive to doing this than others. YMMV. Let us know how you do.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    since I have really noticed an increase in the people who just don't appear to see me, since switching to a vehicle without them. Lots of people pulling out in front of me and making rather risky left hand turns in front of me.

    Sounds like you're driving in their blind spot. DRL's aren't going to solve that problem.

    Unless it's very overcast, there's really no reason drivers shouldn't be able to see you unless you're in their blind spot.

    For very small vehicles (motorcycles), DRL's make a LOT of sense. Or in situations where it's fairly dark/overcast outside but the regular lights aren't on.

    But if the lighting is good outside, DRL's really shouldn't make much difference at all, especially in a vehicle the size of the Freestyle.

    Definitely good advice, though, about geting the dealer to modify the lights to allow DRL's. There's really not any real NEGATIVES about doing so, other than wearing out the bulbs sooner, and the extra drain on the alternator. Both of which shouldn't really be isues.
  • superusuperu Member Posts: 4
    Tape or paper over the sensor will work, or you could simply unplug the light sensor (which is what I did). All it takes is a flat blade screw driver to carefully pry the sensor out of the top of the dash and unplug the connector. Then reinstall the sensor in the dash and your car will look unchanged except the lights will come on with the ignition (when auto is on). I've had mine set up this way for about three months, and it works great. With all the grey rainy weather we get here in the northwest lights on in the daytime really helps to be seen, but the sensor won't turn them on unless it is really dark.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Just a side note for those who are thinking of "taping" their daylight/night sensor...On vehicles will the Navigation system...this will affect the brightness of the LCD display, therefore make sure...
    A) You can alternate/change/keep the brightness of the LCD Panel

    B) Are comfortable having it at full brightness or darkness, unless your planning on changing it every so often.

    C) Remember your information display, and radio display "dim" when in night-time illumination. Make sure when it's daylight, the "dim" mode is enough to make out the numbers/letters.
  • min1min1 Member Posts: 20
    pulling out in front of me and making rather risky left hand turns in front of me. Sounds like you're driving in their blind spot. DRL's aren't going to solve that problem
    I make a very concerted effort not to drive in a person's blind spot and always do a shoulder check when I change lanes. I have not had someone cut me off by changing lanes. They are facing me and still do not see me, or somehow have a harder time judging my speed. I find, myself, to be better able to judge an oncoming vehicles' speed if their lights are on. I don't know why, and I'm not saying that I have ever had or come close to having an accident because of this. It just seems to be take a millisecond off the brains processing time, so that your reactions are better and safer.
    To all who don't agree, fine.......I notice a distinct difference with this vehicle that doesn't have DRL than with the vehicle that I was driving a month ago (in all the same manners as this new one!!!! My driving style did not change overnight!!!)The only thing that did change was the vehicle. In fact they are the same color, so that cannot be the cause of the increased close calls. In my opinion, the reason is the lack of DTRL.
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    Dubious in my opinion... but to each his own.

    In the early 90's I worked at a courier service with 60+ active vehicles. In a move to reduce collisions we provided additional training to our drivers, re trained after incidents and re wired the vehicles so the headlights would come on when the vehicles were running. In less than two years we realized nearly a 15% decrease in the number of collisions within the fleet. Coupled with the additional training, having the headlights on increased the vehicles visibility and proved to be an effective approach to reduce collisions.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    In a move to reduce collisions we provided additional training to our drivers, re trained after incidents and re wired the vehicles so the headlights would come on when the vehicles were running.

    Classic mistake. Now you have no idea which of the two things caused the effect, nor can you estimate the percentage that each might (or might not be) contributing.

    Note: only a "mistake" in the sense of statistical analysis.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    They are facing me and still do not see me, or somehow have a harder time judging my speed. I find, myself, to be better able to judge an oncoming vehicles' speed if their lights are on. I don't know why

    Now that starts to make more sense. I didn't realize you were primarily talking about collisions on undivided roads, caused primarily by passing.

    Here's the "why". It's easier to judge the speed of a vehicle if you pay attention to something on it that grows in size as the vehicle approaches, like the headlights.

    The general rule of thumb is that if you can't see the vehicle/headlights/whaterver growing in size, then it's usually fair enough away to pass safely.

    But, if you can see it growing in size fairly quickly, then it's too close to pass.

    Having the headlights on makes it easier for a person to (subconciously, I'm sure) focus on that one aspect of the car, making it easier to judge speed . . even if they're not thinking about it.
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    We also realized this at the time. It didn't matter which element of the plan worked best. Our goal was to reduce the number of collisions, improve safety for our drivers and reduce insurance costs. The approach we used was effective, which included DTRL.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    It didn't matter which element of the plan worked best.

    True . . . though it's always *possible* (if not likely) that one aspect actually made things worse . . and you'll never know.

    Not likely in this particular instance . . but certainly something to be aware of.
  • corynatcorynat Member Posts: 52
    I am running my iPod to the Aux inputs on the DVD player and have the cables completely hidden with the exception of from the top of the B pillar to the player. I took the 4 screws out out the bottom of the DVD unit thinking that would let me pull it down and fish the cables over the headliner, but the DVD unit was still fastened to the mounting plate. Before I try something typically asinine for me and attempt to forcibly pull it off, has anyone done this yet and am I missing something? It does not seem to slide or twist off from what I can tell.
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  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    Before I try something typically asinine for me and attempt to forcibly pull it off, has anyone done this yet and am I missing something?

    Well, I *had* it done, so I know it can be done. Unfortunately, I can't tell you how they did it.

    I do know that the cables come out from underneath the DVD player, and that they go above the headliner somehow.
  • sabdetsabdet Member Posts: 1
    Is it worth buying the Ford navigation system on the Freestyle, or is one of those $500 portible units as good? Never owned one before, but my wife wants one (she will drive the car, and has no sense of direction.) Thanks.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    About the only advantage of the in-dash unit is the larger screen size. Though Garmin now makes a unit or two with screens almost that size.

    I just got a Garmin 2720. Great unit. The advantages of a unit like this are that you can take it from one vehicle to another (even rentals), and also that you can pre-program your routes on the PC if you wish to do so. It's a LOT easier to pre-check a route if you've done it on the PC. You can then easily force the route to go a specific way, if it hasn't chosen the way you'd like to go.

    You can do the same thing in the vehicle if you want, but it's a lot tougher to do . . whether you have a portable unit or the built-in unit.
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Member Posts: 468
    For nearly two thousand extra, it is a waste of money, especially in a vehicle in the Freestyle's price range. Also, most are too complicated to be really fun to use. The more distracting stuff we put in our cars, the less attention we pay to driving. How about smoking, using the cellular phone, having a Coke, and consulting the navigation screen at the same time. A driver doing three of those nearly creamed my Freebie the other day
  • stmssstmss Member Posts: 206
    As far as I am concerned, the legislation of DRLs in Canada in 1990 (I think) was one of the best moves in legislation to improve safety and reduce collisions.

    They are especially valuable in the northern climes at dusk and dawn (usually rush hour here) before people put on their main headlights. The improved visibility on two lane roads is no comparison over non DRLs (when passing or pulling onto the road). This is especailly important with speed limits always being pushed and volume of traffic increasing.

    I need to agree with Min1 on this one. Should be able to reprogram the DRLS I would think.
  • freealfasfreealfas Member Posts: 652
    How did she and the rest of us all get around before the advent of this expensive option that takes one's focus away from driving to make our live's more "convenient".
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I had to run an errand this morning to a place I was just at 10 days ago. Missed my turn, even after discussing the route first; luckily I had a passenger who was able to figure out how to backtrack from the map in the car. Otherwise I would have had to pull over somewhere.

    With all the gas I've wasted over the years cruising around lost, I probably could have paid for a couple of NAV systems by now.

    Steve, Host
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    How did she and the rest of us all get around before the advent of this expensive option

    AAA maps and books, Trip-ticks (sp?), etc.
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    It seems a bit like having a right hand mirror on your car. They used to be optional too. Once you have used one, it may be hard to do without. :shades:
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Member Posts: 468
    A right hand mirror is a beneficial safety item. One might argue the opposite for nav systems.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    I could argue that properly using a Nav system is a safety item.

    And improperly using it is a safety hazard, much like misusing a radio . . or even misusing the rearview mirror.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    I don't think a Nav is any less safe that someone driving around with a map in their hand trying to figure out where they're at.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    And then there is the added risk of pulling out of traffic to ask directions and then negotiating your way back into the flow! ;)

    tidester, host
    imageDrive on over to my place!
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    Real men don't ask directions. ;)
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Hence, the NEED for NAV systems! :shades:
  • passat_2002passat_2002 Member Posts: 468
    Given their expense and complexity, I would think that Navigation Systems in road vehicles would have to be a relatively useless feature unless you are the sort of person who regularly drives to places, either nearby or far away, that you've never been to before. If you're not that sort of person, then these things are just expensive toys that occupy far too much valuable panel space that could otherwise be used in a far more useful way.
  • barnstormer64barnstormer64 Member Posts: 1,106
    occupy far too much valuable panel space that could otherwise be used in a far more useful way.

    To be fair, at least SOME systems do use the space in other ways. Like, for displaying a lot more radio information (or especially Satellite radio info).

    I'd still like to see one that lets you pick say six favorite XM or Sirius stations, and then constantly display what song/artist is playing on those stations on the large display. Then you could just push the button for that station, and listen when you wanted to.
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    "To be fair, at least SOME systems do use the space in other ways. Like, for displaying a lot more radio information (or especially Satellite radio info)."

    My personal favorite is the large SUVs that put the video from backup cameras on the NAV screen when you switch into reverse.

    However, I think I actually prefer the "beeping" backup sensor system on my FS SEL; I can know exactly how close I am, whereas a camera is open to some interpretation.
  • jrtexasjrtexas Member Posts: 13
    I bought a Magellan Roadmate 300 at Target for $399. it's been great for our day trips exploring the back roads of Texas. The screen is plenty big enough at about 2.5 by 3 inches. It is completely portable and easy to move from vehicle to vehicle (hard to do with a factory installed unit). Haven't yet had a problem finding the GPS satellites.

    As mentioned in this thread, it can create a dangerous situation if you try to reprogram it while you're zooming down the highway so don't do that.
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