Kia Sorento

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  • jeepster4jeepster4 Member Posts: 53
    Starts you in a higher gear so you won't spin your wheels as easily in snow. Its no help at all in a off-road situation.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    I think I remember my dad mentioning he used to ask for a set of snow tires. Then it was a full sized spare. Always a full tank of gas.

    Nowadays, you're lucky to get a pine tree air freshener!
  • steve_onsteve_on Member Posts: 70
    Anyone know who supplies the Sorento 4 x 4 system?

    Basic system, is it available in other vehicles where you can review how well or not it works. Descriptions I have read sure sounds like what is available in the likes of Volvo and others.

    Wonder if Ms. Cleo knows?
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    I got a call today from a local kia dealer. The sales guy tells me they had just received the color I wanted and if i was still interested. I told him i was still interested, but I was not going to pay msrp. The sales guy tells me no no we are discounting. So I rush down and was all excited ready to make a deal.

    I get to the dealer and sales guy shows me the vehicle. It was sweet. Silver metlaic ex 4x2 with abs and rear spoiler just what i wanted. Now comes the reality part. There was a extra charges posted next to the official msrp. The hood protector $300. Undercoating $900. Fabric and Paint sealant $600. pinstripes $200. The added options brought the total to almost $27,000. The sales guy tells me, the manager is having a special today and he can get $2000 off if I would buy it today. I told him they were crazy and walked out.

    I guess it does not matter what brand the vehicle is. As long as the dealer smells the vehicle is a hot seller they will continue to play this kinds of games.
  • steve_onsteve_on Member Posts: 70
    Well....

    I'll add that to my mental survey, Dallas is still acting crazy.

    I was going to make a rude comment about did they throw in a Bill Clinton intern special....but this is mostly a family area.

    Ms. Cleo I think sees the price dropping some in the future. By the way, Ms. Cleo has a new service for car shoppers.

    1 900-DLR-SCRU
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    I've visited 2 Northern CA KIA dealers thus far. Oakland dealer wants $2,995 over MSRP. Folsom Lake dealer wants $3,995 over MSRP. I politely pointed out I wasn't born yesterday and that the extra $4,000 puts the Sorento within shouting range of the Highlander. IMHO, for roughly same cost, no way would I choose a KIA over a Toyota, 10-year warranty or no 10-year warranty. Two more e-mails later, Folsom dealer offered to sell me an EX at MSRP, but after reading postings in this forum, I'm inclined to wait a couple of months and shoot for $1,000 UNDER MSRP.

    I agree with others who said Sorento has a touchy gas pedal. I also found steering to be very sensitive. Neither is a negative....just observations. On the positive side, it is very quiet, has a powerful A/C, and it takes parking lot speed bumps very well. I'm surprised at the many critical comments about the interior not being quite up to par. We have owned a Mercedes, BMW, Volvo, and Infiniti. I think the Sorento is comparable to any of these, especially given its price. I'm not bothered by the fake wood trim at all. The brushed chrome is preferable to bright chrome....hides fingerprints, dust, etc.

    Another strong positive is the comprehensive package one gets for under $25,000. With many other cars and SUVs, you have to pay extra for: keyless entry, alloy wheels, side cladding, cargo net, cargo cover, extra 12V outlets, HomeLink, CD changer, and side airbags.

    Bottom line is that it felt good sitting in the driver's seat and looking around.....you know, that nice warm-&-fuzzy feeling of ‘my car-my space’ versus just a means to get from Point A to Point B. So what's holding me back? Only the thought that by waiting a few months, I can save a thousand clams!
  • booger5booger5 Member Posts: 1
    Kia is nuts if they think the sorento is hot enought to sell at MSRP. I have visited every Kia dealer near me and they look at me like IM nuts for offering $1000.00 below invoice. I couldnt wedge a toothpick in their buts with a sledge hammer. Wait till they are hurting to sell then they will deal.. What a bunch a idiots!
  • cb70cb70 Member Posts: 226
    Go in, laugh at their offer and tell them you will see them in 8 months when they are selling at invoice or below. And then squeeze them for everything you can get, I have no sympathy for these types of salesmen. Actually, i have little sympathy for any salesman, LOL.
  • PlacemanPlaceman Member Posts: 44
    Here in the mid-west, I have yet to see a dealer mark up a Sorento. It did take trips to three Kia dealerships before someone would negotiate. I ended up buying my Sorento EX/Luxury for 1,200 under MSRP. That worked out to be approximately 450 over invoice. Not exactly the 100-200 I've paid in the past for new cars, but this is a new model year.
  • steve_onsteve_on Member Posts: 70
    "We have owned a Mercedes, BMW, Volvo, and Infiniti. I think the Sorento is comparable to any of these, especially given its price. I'm not bothered by the fake wood trim at all. "

    I do acknowledge that the price does drive the quality of the materials, having said that, the materials used are fine, just a slight grade lower than say a Honda.

    Same with controls, on a Honda you reach out to where you think they should be, and there they are. On the Kia, reach out to where you think a control should be, and it's there but a little out of place. Hard to describe, but is one of those things that Honda and Toyota have down to a science, the cars just "fits" you.

    Also glad to hear that it was not just me, the gas IS touchy, and the steering is a bit over boosted at low speeds at least to my way of driving.
  • hutch85hutch85 Member Posts: 8
    Maybe a little off-topic, but we had a great experience with our dealer (sorry, not a Kia dealer though, but another import brand).
    They stayed an hour and a half past closing (on a Saturday, yet - they're not open Sundays) to work with us on a mutually acceptable financing strategy; and when we finally came to a solution insisted that we take the vehicle home that night - even though they could have been sticky and asked us to come back Monday.
    Then they discovered that the gas tank wasn't full, so they told us to fill it up and keep the receipt in order for them to reimburse us.
    I wish all purchasing experiences were as pleasant :)
  • mudpuppy2001mudpuppy2001 Member Posts: 1
    I was told by the manager yesterday after test driving a Sorento, which I liked very much BTW, that since there were only about 5000 of these being made and shipped to the US market, that I didn't have much leeway to getting the one I wanted.

    That was not a good sales ploy to use with me as I have been test driving all kinds of SUVs in the past week plus I've owned SUVs for 20+ yrs.

    Do you all think this is a good company and that the Sorento will keep a good resale value? I can't see paying over 25K on an SUV anymore as I don't need 4x4. I felt that the Pilot over-steered; not the Sorento. I felt no problems with the gas in the Sorento as well and liked the roominess. The gas mileage isn't as good as the top of the line SUVs, but I think that's bc it sits on a truck chassis (vs a cars). It was very quite and did well on the freeway. Being from So Cal and having just come back from driving 2500 miles in Spain and Portugal, I felt the Sorento passed my drive test with flying colors. It seems to be a pretty good ride. The Pilot felt heavy and a bit awkward in manuverability due to the heaviness. Since the Sorento is so light, is it safe in windy or bad weather conditions?

    Inquirying minds want to know. Thanks.

    Nance
  • steve_onsteve_on Member Posts: 70
    Hey mud.

    What city was the dealer in that gave you "business"?

    In in So Cal, and the Long Beach dealer was OK, but did not appear to want to dicker.
  • cb70cb70 Member Posts: 226
    Although I don't think the Sorento will lose its value as quickly as the cars will, it probably is a poor choice if you plan on reselling within a couple of years.
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    Having traded in my 2001 CR-V for a Sorento I can tell you there is a world of difference between the 2 vehicles. The first thing you notice is the size. The Sorento is larger than the V (both interior and especially exterior). The next is the power. The V's 4 (V-Tec) is no match for the Sorento's 6 cylinder. Personally I don't find the acceleration touchy in any way. In fact it I find it extremely smooth (smoother than my wife's 2000 Cherokee). The interior is much better thought out on the Sorento with tons of nice details (felt lined coin box, center map compartment, overhead storage, shelf in the glove box, etc...)
    A pleasant surprise is that the fit and finish is definately up to Honda standards.

    I realize I'm not comparing to a 2002 model but having test-driven a 2002 I find the basics (fit, finish, power, handling, ...) aren't that radically different.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers!
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    I don't know what it is with US dealers but up here in Canada, Kia dealers are a lot less cocky and open to negotiating. In fact my dealer, Kia Montreal, has agreed to let me use their detailing service bay on Friday evenings to properly wash my car this coming winter (they drop tons of salt on the roads during the winter). It's actually snowing here as I write this. sigh... :-(
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The full-time 4wd system on the upper level Sorentos is the same TOD system found in the Trooper. It's made by B&W and puts about 15% power to the front >5mph and will increase it to 50/50 depending on traction. Also has a locked 50/50 low-range as well that is for slippery surfaces only.

    -mike
  • greyt_autumngreyt_autumn Member Posts: 3
    And I liked it :)

    I'm driving a Jetta or the wife's Grand Prix and I really liked the Sorento ride- not as harsh as I expected, and better IMHO than the Highlander which surprised me considering the very differnt underpinnings. I did find the steering to be a little too soft, but maneuvearability was not an issue- very easy to drive and park with good visibility. Handled like a smaller vehicle (surprisingly Jetta like to me) They also ship with Michelin tires on them.

    THe fit and finish is not high end, but no worse than a Toyota or Honda, and I was not expecting Lexus quality, but I would not be afraid to be seen in the Sorento. Considering that I was looking at the mini suv's before and I cold get a nicely equiped EX to sticker @ 25k, I think I'll be going to the SOrento for the next ride. I was also impressed withthe Indigo blue color.

    The one I drove was an EX 4wd, leather, spoiler and ABS for 25,600.

    The rear seats fold flat and the ergonomics are good. This one had an in dash 6 cd changer too.

    I found that I was almost looking over minivans, a felling that I did not get even in an Explorer or TrailBlazer. Torque was pretty good, and overall the Sorento looks to be a good value. I have an in at this Kia delaership (I used to work for the parent company) so I get the real deal on the issues. So far, the newer Kia models are not in for a lot of warranty work.
  • mabhimanmabhiman Member Posts: 1
    I went ahead and purchased a Kia Sorrento. I was in the market for a SUV and couldn't believe all the features included in the low price. The salesman was good and the car was spacious and felt good. Further comments will be added as I get more experience with the car.
  • yoonnyyoonny Member Posts: 33
    Sorento is THE best selling SUV in Korea beating out Santa Fe, Rexton, etc.

    There is a 4 months waiting period for delivery of a new Sorento.

    2003 Sorentos to be sold from 10/18/02. There is a major improvement in ride quality with the improvement in shock absorbers (engineered and supplied by Germany's Sachs).

    There is an argument as to if Sorento is a mini SUV or midsize SUV. There are arguments for both and people are voicing that the Sorento is cheap if considered as a mini SUV and expensive if considered as a midsize SUV. The arguments are out there but no clear cut answers.

    I think Sorento is a blockbuster for the US market in terms of styling, price and size.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    think of it as getting a lot for a mini priced suv vs getting whatever for a mid priced suv.

    or think of them in terms of capability instead of pigeonholing into a size category.
  • xcmdxxcmdx Member Posts: 17
    Has anyone priced out the insurance on the Sorento? I'm an owner of a 2002 Kia Optima SE, and feel I got a great deal. However I am disappointed by the high cost rating the insurance company imposes on this vehicle. The Optima has a higher insurance rating than the Saab 9-3 I was thinking of buying when I was looking for a new vehicle - and chose the Optima. I'm told this is because of the high cost of Korean parts, and the risk of future availability. Now that N.Korea has joined the Nuke Club I wonder what effect that will have...
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    I'm sorry but I don't buy that... no pun intended!

    If anything Korean parts are cheaper than Japanese parts, i.e. Toyota, Nissan, etc. Future availability is not determined by the insurance company and they can never know if the demand will be there...

    They may be just taking you for a ride... no pun intended again! How many ins. co. did you check with?

    In any event, it's a good question. I'd like to know too for when I get the Sorento ;-)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    is based on how many sell. Why? Cause the more there are sold the more replacement parts are needed and therefore are stolen more often. That's why the Accord and Camry are the highest stolen vehicles in the country. During the 80s it was the american cars that shared the same platform (Regal/Monte Carlo/Cutlas/Grand Prix)

    -mike
  • jmaterojmatero Member Posts: 253
    I checked out the Sorento EX this weekend... 5 on the lot here in White Plains NY. I was really shocked to see so much Hyundai interior hardware in the car... door handles, steering column, turn signals, wiper stalks, ignition switch, power window switches. This is actually good as they are quite nice in current hyundai models. In terms of price, though, there is no full time system available so it's either Rear WD or 4-high. I did think the price was a little higher than I thought it was going to be but the fit/Finish was pretty good.

    To the person who traded in the CR-V after one model year... I hope you don't think you can do the same with the sorento after only a year.... the resale will NOT be what you got for the Honda.

    While driving it, I did wonder.... when the same 3.5L motor is dropped in the Santa-Fe next year... you will DEFINATELY be able to find sorentos below invoice... Most people buying SUV's don't go off-road and want car-like handling.. that's the santa-fe advantage... when they have the same HP, I think many will go car-based over truck-based.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The models with TOD have TOD which can be activated full time and 4-LOW for offroad use only.

    -mike
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    "...it's either Rear WD or 4-high."

    Don't forget 4-Lo!

    "... Most people buying SUV's don't go off-road and want car-like handling.."

    I disagree with that statement. Most people who get SUV's DO go offroad, and understand that it will handle differently than a car.

    Otherwise, why don't they just buy a regular wagon or van?
  • jeepster4jeepster4 Member Posts: 53
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Most people who get SUV's DO go offroad, and understand that it will handle differently than a car.

    How do we know this? There's another discussion on these boards with some 23,000 posts debating the point.

    Otherwise, why don't they just buy a regular wagon or van?

    Who says they are logical? ;-)

    tidester, host

  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Just saw the commercial on TV and checked out the Kia web site. This is a good looking SUV. Before I make a decision on RAV4 or CR-V. This is going to my next consideration (will test drive one soon). For RAV4, it cost more with all option loaded. For CR-V, some waiting time and pay MSRP. I looked at this Sorento EX with leather seats and wood trims. It has a luxury look and feel like some luxury SUV (I can't compare this to Lexus or MB). I wonder if they can put more power on its engine. We are now talking about V6 with 220 plus horsepower. Anyway, I like the Kia warranty. Is there a long wait and full MSRP in MA?
  • jmaterojmatero Member Posts: 253
    Last year, GM made a big stink about how their research showed that over 80% of SUV buyers (non commercial purchases) indicated they would most likely NEVER take the vehicle off-road. The majority of these people like sitting up high and believe they are safer than in a car. This coming from the largest manufacturer/seller of SUV's on the planet. These are people who would buy a minivan or station wagon but feel they don't exude 'toughness'. For a daily driver (assuming you don't need 4wd low) car-based SUV's are far superior to vehicles like the sorento because they handle more like a car.... have independent rear suspension.... are Front wheel drive until there is wheel slippage and the system takes over on it's own.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    buy Jeeps?
  • jeepster4jeepster4 Member Posts: 53
    Jeep sponsors off road jamborees and General Motors don't.
  • cb70cb70 Member Posts: 226
    What do they have to do with the Sorento?
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    Insurance for my Sorento is about $100 more than my CRV.

    In my case I'll do very little offroading. I do enough off-roading in military vehicles. I will however be doing lots of driving on snow-covered roads. I guess I'm one of those GM was talking about.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    ride to go along with the capability to go off-road. The speed-sensitive power steering seems to be kinda sensitive to some people and the ride over bumps is solid and not annoying-the large frame and suspension rambles right over them. Also, the early consensus is that the accelerator pedal action seems rather peppy to people-like they're going to have to take it easy when starting out until they get used to it. No bigs!
    This rig is built to go off-road and it gives people that "up-high" feeling. It's true, my wife and I enjoy the '01 Sportage's "up-high" feeling and the perception that you're safer. The Sportage does give me the feeling that I'm in a small tank-it is REALLY solid and as I throw the 5-speeds around I can tell it's a heavy rig. Sorento is similar but only available in an automatic tranny-yes, that is nice but some of us wanted 5-speed manual offered. Which makes the waiting grueling to see what's next for '04 Sportage. Gonna be a blast to see what the boys'll come up with for '04.

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    Post #522 gave me a scare, so got on the phone right away with my agent and asked him for estimates for a Sorento and 2003 Camry. Sorento will cost $70 more per year, which translates to approx 8% more.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Funny you mention Jeep and offroad...

    Although they sponsor offroad events and promote "offroadness" in their advertising, there is some very very deceptive wording in their warranty that specifically voids your warranty if you take your Jeep product offroading. I find that to be hysterically funny.

    On a side note, I saw several broken Jeeps (2 blown T-cases, 1 rear axle, 1 front diffy) this past weekend while offroading in Central North Carolina at Uwharrie National Forest.

    -mike
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    They don't come in a 5-Speed?????!!!!!!??????

    Paisan, what year were those broken Jeeps? What were they doing or had they done in the past to those things?

    I think you are wrong on the warranty about going offroad. I took one on a test drive through some frozen cornrows and up across a small stream and up a hill ("mountain") when I was in college. Told the frightened salesman upon return that I wasn't interested in something so "used and abused". Hey, we all grow up eventually... :-)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    It's true that the Jeep warranty has that disclaimer. I've seen it, at least on ones in the past 5-7 years. Not sure about before that.

    The Jeeps ranged from ~80something up to recent years, and not sure if they were abused or not in the past. This was on a rocky hill-climb @ the ORV section of the national Forest.

    On a side note no SUVs come with MTs anymore. The only ones I know of are few and far between, and non of them come with full-time/dry capable 4wd systems.

    -mike
  • 01r101r1 Member Posts: 280
    Side note, here's a few SUVs that do come with 5-speed (off the top of my head):
    CR-V
    Liberty
    RAV4
    Tracker
    Tribute
    Wrangler
    Xterra
    XL-7
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Here are the ones I consider SUVs:
    Liberty
    Tracker/XL7
    Wrangler
    Xterra

    Of those, I know the Wrangler, Xterra and Tracker/XL7 don't come with FT 4wd so you are left with the Liberty as the only FT 4wd that might have a MT available.

    The other ones listed are merely raised up wagons.

    -mike
  • johnh17johnh17 Member Posts: 2
    I test drove one last night. Beautiful vehicle, got a reasonable price EX in color wife wants, but the trans was slipping badly between 2 and 3rd.. rpms to 4800. Got a call from dealer today said they needed to get some new parts in and repair. Any other comments on the ride or similar problems noted. Gives us a concern on buying.
  • jeepster4jeepster4 Member Posts: 53
    Does exclude abuse, but finding grass or mud on the undercarriage does not automatically void the warranty. Some competing vehicles specifically state that use off road will void the warranty. I can't speak for all Jeep shops, but ours will usually give a customer considerable leeway before cutting them off for abuse. Obviously, a Rubicon will get more leeway than a Liberty. We are also are a Kia dealer and the Sorento appears to have everything necessary to be an adequate, if not superior, off-roader.
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    How is the sorento selling at your dealership?
  • 96_i30_5sp96_i30_5sp Member Posts: 127
    I think you are out of luck with the Liberty too. The manual tranny Liberty has part-time 4WD and Selec-Trac is only available with auto tranny.
  • boredbored Member Posts: 300
  • jeepster4jeepster4 Member Posts: 53
    We are showing it to every one, but the Liberty and the Sportage are getting all the action. We are really going to miss the Sportage when its gone and that will be in a matter of days.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    And from Kia, a Poor Man's Volvo (Business Week Online)


    Steve, Host

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    So that means there are no available SUVs that combine Low Range + Full-time/dry-time 4wd + MT.

    -mike
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