Kia Sorento

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  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    I called Kia about the Load Leveling since there is nothing of it on the manual. They called me back and said that the load leveling works within the shock absorbers. they said the pumping action of the car on the absorbers bring them to a predetermined level...
    On our EX 4x4 luxury pack i've noticed that an start there is the 4x4 light that looks like 4 wheels and the transfer case, it goes off with all the rest. I think there is no use for this light in the 4x4 with lux pack, it should be on if 4hi engaged on regular 4x4.. does anybody knows???
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    If you put it in 4wd LO range, to indicate you shouldn't be driving on dry pavement with it.

    -mike
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    #1452 - Documents fee: At $498, it seems as if Holler KIA is VERY much on the high side. I had to dig out our records to confirm that yes, we were only charge $45.00 for Doc fees at Florin Road KIA in Sacramento, CA.

    #1457: nrooks, no vibrations of the sort you described. There was an occasional soft, rapid rattling noise coming from the luggage area. I finally isolated it to the luggage cover, which I did not properly seat in those two half-grooves.

    #1467: mdsorento, thanks for the info about the auto load leveling. I couldn't find any reference to it in the manual either. Sales and Service at our dealer told us the same thing - namely that it works all by itself. Reassuring that you heard this directly from KIA.
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    There is a "4low" light, which turns on if I set the knob to low but in auto there should not be any lights, ( none turn on in mine). There is another light that looks like a plan view of the wheels that comes on when starting the car, it is used on the standard 4x4 when is set on 4HI, but I think it has no use on the EX with TOD... I do not know why they left this light on this model..
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    It doesn't light up when you put it in 4-low? I bet it blinks if there is a problem with the transfer case then? Just throwing out some ideas here.

    -mike
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    mikesf - I will look at the site. Which model you have?
    mdsorento - I hope Kia can tell us more about automatic load leveling. And I think there should be light to indicate when the feature is on. The sale and service didn't tell much about it except it will help when loading heavy stuff and towing. And, I don't see any light on when driving on a dirt road (with stones and small rocks) with the 4WD "Lo" turn on.
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    The light I'm refering to is to the left of the seatbelt warning light. To the right of the seatbelt light is the "4 low" light which works fine, it comes on when I turn the knob to "low". The one on the left comes on when starting the eng, and then goes off.

    I called Kia Customer Service today about the seatbelt warning light, they said it has to work as described in the manual. I have not been back to the dealer yet, but i'll be there tomorrow. They also said they are going to see with the factory tech if there has been any mods but there were not any known to her.
  • mcclutzmcclutz Member Posts: 13
    Just curious, not many pictures out there of the different colour combinations on the luxury model. Does anyone have the beige or black model? Do the fender flares in a different colour look bad? Any one want to post some pics?
  • enskankenskank Member Posts: 5
    Try Google Images and type in KIA Sorento ..........Lots of Pictures.
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    WWW.cobra-sor.com has accesories for the sorento, you can see how the sorento looks with each one, and then download that view as wallpaper.
    If you have a Silver sorento You must visit that page...
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    mdsorento - The service told this is a normal condition. It will come on when the seatbelt is mulfuctioned. I contacted the Kia Consumer Affair via internet. I am still waiting for an answer from the tech. They were nice enough to call the sales and asked the sales people to try another Sorento in the showroom. I will keep you guys the updates.
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    I think that is right, but I told the customer service Lady about this forum and that is was this way that works for most of us, and asked her if that was a mistake in the manual, She sid the e-mail will go to them but there are no tech people in customer service, better to ask the dealer service, since they have direct contact with factory tech.
    Personally I'm not concerned about it, I wear it all the time, I would like it more if there was a way to know when the rear pasengers unbuckle their belts, since most times they are kids...(wish list)
    On another note, I've seen 2 other sorentos on the roan a silver and a green...
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    mdsorento - I don't know much about the service. Will they (the Kia) collect the data from the service departments for reviews? I mean, when I drove my Sorento to the service, they typed all the information and the repair request (beside the scheduled maintanence) to the system. I don't care about the warning light. I wear it all the time. It is my responsibility. The airbags are just the supplements. And I think the seatbelt warning light is only for the driver on most cars.
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I sent them an email for nearest dealer and cost. But I have got nothing.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I just found the amplifier (with premium in-dash 6CD changer) mounted on the floor underneath the driver's seat. I also found the under seat tray underneath the passenger's seat. I though it was on the driver's side.
    And it looks the WeatherTech finally has the custom fit rubber mats for Sorento. They come with grey, tan and black. See www.mats.com
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    lok888 - I went to the dealer (Criswell Kia) today, asked the service manager about the seatbelt light, He thinks probably a misprint of the manual, He tried to contact engineering today but it is closed for the holidays. Told me to come back Thursday or Friday after Christmas, so we can call engineering together and ask them directly.
    Also told me Kia is going on line after the 1st of the year and that We'll be able to talk to them on the internet directly....
    I asked him about the levelers, and told me again the shocks that are self leveling, and work themselves to a predetermined level..
    I am thinking on installing a tornado air device (www.tornadoair.com)... does anybody have any experience with them ??? supposedly it improves fuel burn / power...
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Check out the comments in The accessories to improve mileage and extend engine life discussion.

    Steve, Host
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    Lok9888 ... that Tornado thing is a piece of crap it does not work many of the people at the Ranger forum ( I have a Ranger as well )have tried that and returned it because it did not work or it screwed up the Emission control sensors.
    That Cobra-sor site... I went up there to see the accessories. Some nice items I would be interested in the step bars or step rail. It looks like that they are a German Company and I wonder if you can order from them.
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    Tanks for the link Steve, that clears my doubts..

    Hciaffa, I believe nowadays international shopping is no big deal but I do not know, maybe they have a local distributor for those neat accesories..
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    hicaffa - I just looked at the Sorento accessories brochure. Kia has the side steps for the Sorento. But I am still looking for the running boards. And I think mdsorento posted the discussion about tornado and not me. Anyway, I don't believe these aftermarket stuffs (tornado, K&N Filter, Z-Max, etc.) anymore. They look good on the TV commericals. But it's just waste of money.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    I checked in with Weather Tech and those mats are not really a custom fit. You have to trim or cut to fit either the heavy rubber or carpeted mats and the rear mats are a universal style and the dimensions given by them is much smaller than the ones we have in our Sorento(they are quite large as they go under the front seat by some inches). They going to come out shortly with a true fit mat. We will have to keep checking. You could do what I probably plan to do. The cost of those mats are more than buying a new set of real mats at the dealer($80) and you don't pay shipping and just swap for the seasons.
    lok888....sorry I got my postings mixed on the tornado item. The K&N filter does work but the horse power gain is not that drastic. It does allow the engine to breath better but the problems many have is when they go to clean a the filter and re-apply the oil they put to much and it really messes up the MAS sensor creating problems with the engine.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    I am interested in the side steps as well. Better footing entering and exiting the Sorento. Asmy wife has arthritis of the kness so it be better for her. If you get any infoon these pleas post it. I will.do the same.
    also for got to mention that its been over a week and I have not received any response from KIa on a question. About if the leather seats are all leather or just the inserts on the top and back. My dealer really could not answer the question. Anyone have any idea.
  • eastbayereastbayer Member Posts: 4
    An EX with all the trimmings for $1500 below MSRP at Connell Auto in Oakland CA. Forget about trying online quotes, they are a waste of time. Had to hold the line through not to many games, generally a good experience. The Oct. demand coupled with the west coast dock strike had put visions of sugar plums dancing in dealers heads. Window sticker had $8000 over MSRP if you can believe it. But it seems demand has fallen off a cliff in the last month or so. And from my suriptious take on the manager's sales board that's true across the brands. So far everything with my KIA seems fine, but I'll keep y'all informed in thanks for the help you gave me. Only hitch was that dealer said the mudguards aren't available yet.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    Right now the accessories available are sunroof deflector, hood bra, hood bug and stone deflector, cargo tray, window vent visors and mudguards. I purchased all the items except the sunroof deflector and hood bra. I have only installed the muguards. Simple enough to do. Look at the mudguard and figure which screws to remove and install. The other items such as window vents and front hood deflector require adhesive tape to be used and the weather is to cold for the recommended installation. Talk to the parts guy he should be able to get what you need.
  • fmunoz1069fmunoz1069 Member Posts: 35
    I have installed the mud guards (which should be bigger for an SUV) and they look nice, Also put the hood cover on, it looks great! I took off the two cross rails from the roof rack, I don't use the roof rack anyway, gave it a sporty look, next I will purchase the vent visors and am waiting for the side steps to become available. I do recommend everyone to check out the Sorento at www.Cobra-sor.com. It looks great!! Too bad we can't get that stuff here. I love the 18" wheels on it, and I am thinking of putting something like that on my Sorento EX. This vehicle looks great accesorized !!!
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    Pictures! We want pictures!

    :-)
  • boredbored Member Posts: 300
    All this time, I have only seen 2 Sorentos on the road. The two I saw was in March 2002, around the auto show season, and those two were masked up. Where are they? They are selling all of these vehicles, and none of them are showing up on the road...I'm beginning to wonder whether any of them exist!
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    hicaffa - I ordered the mug guards and the service will install at no charge for me since I ordered when I bought the car. I believe the side step bars is available yet. The brochure said "late available" among with the front bumper guard. Ask your dealer for this two-page long accessories brochure. Thanks for the info on WeatherTech. I just knew they have this for Sorento. I am sure the rear set is universal. What are the front? For the Tornado and others stuffs, I have no interest anymore. If these things really work (maybe just a little help), why the automarker would put one on. It is just a money marking opportunate. Sorry! I just don't buy these things. No offense!
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    To all Sorento owners - F.Y.I. I believe this is a Kia way when the seatbelt (at least for the driver) is not worn, the seatbelt warning light will not come on. It (and among other warning lights) will on for few seconds when you turn your key to "On" position. This is a normal condition, like hicaffa mentioned about some Ford and GM cars. This is also the same thing on my brother's girlfriend newly purchased 2003 Kia Spectra GSX hatchback. Have anyone heard someone would file a law suit when someone die in a car accident. because the light is not on to remind them to wear seatbelt. I doubt it. What about recalls? Anyway folks! Fasten your seatbelt!
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    Mikesf if you want to see my white sorento:
    www.sorento-forum.de/html/home.htm ,( under #11) there are some other sorentos there. one of the links shows the korean version (different kia logo) with what looks as the navigation screen.

    Lok888 I hope 2003 is like 2002 for Kia, NO recalls.. www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls

    To all of You, HAPPY HOLIDAYS....I wish Santa Brings me another Sorento..
  • boredbored Member Posts: 300
    Well, when we start our Sportage up...the Seatbelt Light comes on, and stays lit, until the driver puts his/her seatbelt on. The little dingie also comes on, if the driver takes his/her seatbelt off, and stays on for about 6 Seconds.

    OK, after complaining, I finally saw a Sorento...in a Mall Parking Lot! Just purchased today...so they do exist.
  • PlacemanPlaceman Member Posts: 44
    #1 - Seat Belt Light: We have had a tremendous amount of traffic regarding whether or not this light should or should not come on. Are you kidding me? Does it really matter that much? Do you we need our dashboard to tell us to wear our seatbelt? I don’t think so.

    #2 – Keys: You can have a locksmith cut you a key. I did and it works flawlessly. The Kia’s DO NOT use chips in their keys.

    #3 – Load Leveling: I posted a similar question regarding what type of load leveling is in the Sorento. A gentleman responded via email to me with the following, excellent explanation:

    I saw your late October post on edmunds about auto leveling. Did you ever get the answer you were looking for about how it works? Assuming you didn't, I thought I'd offer you a bit of information. The system is rather elegant from an engineering point of view, but no salesman could ever explain it properly. I looked into it when I used to work as an engineer for Toyota.

    The system consists of rear shock absorbers made by Sachs, a Germany company. They call them Nivomats. They are used extensively in Europe, where headlight aiming rules are strictly enforced, no matter what the load in a car. They are used stateside on the rear of Tahoes, Suburbans, and Chrysler minivans.

    These have hydraulic chambers that are SELF PRESSURIZING, which is why you have heard no compressor noise - there isn't one. There are no lines or anything outside the shocks. It's all done internally. The really neat part is these absorbers act as shock absorbers AND as supplemental rear springs. The rear coil springs on your Sorento are no doubt softer than Sorentos without leveling, because your rear shocks are also behaving as springs, and variable rate springs at that. To get the total rear spring rate on your car you combine the coil spring rate with the Nivomat spring rate.

    The shocks have a couple of ports on an internal shaft. When you load the vehicle and it sags below the lowest port, a circuit is opened that directs hydraulic fluid into a chamber. How does the fluid enter the chamber? By the pumping action created by suspension movement as you drive. It takes a half mile, perhaps more if the road is very smooth. It keeps pumping until it gets to the upper port on that internal shaft.

    So your car may look low when you first add weight, but after driving a while it will pump up to normal height. The spring rate of the shock increases in proportion to how much fluid pressure is needed to bring the car back up to level, which is to say, the rear spring rate increases as rear axle weight increases. When you park a loaded vehicle, it will hold pressure for 24 hrs or more. Start driving and it pumps back up again. If you unload, the pumped up shock may extend ABOVE the upper port, causing pressure to be released from the chamber until the car settles down below the upper port. This takes a minute or so, so it may look a little high in the rear when you first unload.

    All in all, it is very slick! Self-contained, no outside parts, circuits, or wiring to need maintanance, transparent operation.

    The only downside is you have to keep using these shocks. If one ever needs replacing, you have to make sure that a Sachs Nivomat made for a Sorento (correct size and port locations) is put on. And that means going to the dealer. And don't assume that the dealer service guy will know the difference himself. Make sure you point it out. If anyone ever puts regular rear shocks on, then you no longer have the spring rate that the Nivomat provides (and it does provide quite a bit, even when the car is empty), so the rear suspension would be WAY too soft.
  • dlb14frostdlb14frost Member Posts: 29
    The altimeter seems to be working fine, No erratic readings any more,,, BUT it's been 4 weeks now and no response from Kia... Even after sending them a second reguest on my altimeter question.
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    posting information RE: auto-load leveling. That's very interesting and useful. I doubt if KIA could be as thorough. And thanks also to your e-mail friend, the former engineer at Toyota.

    And finally, thanks for the real-world report on KIA keys. I didn't think it has a chip, despite what others have posted. So it's reassuring that you know for certain we don't have to return to the dealer for extra keys.
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    Kia Service called me today 12/23 after engineering dept. called back...it is designed like that: after unlatching belt, light or bell will not come on...
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Placeman - I think I first asked this question to other Sorento owners to see if this is problem on my car. It turned out it is designed like that (also for the Spectra). I mentioned many times that I always wear seatbelt not only this is a law in MA. But it is my responsibility. I don't need anything to remind me to wear seatbelt. And I was clear about it. Some people think that I am making such as big deal on this issue. But some people think this is important. And why we have the warning lights for the doors, rear hatch? Why don't we have these lights come on only when these things break? For some people, they really need the dashboard (as an information provider and service reminder) to tell them what to do. BTW, you have a very good info on the auto load leveling. Happy motoring!
  • boredbored Member Posts: 300
    You people found someone to make a key for a Kia?!?!?!? Lucky you. We had to go back to the dealer, and pay $7.37 for a single Sportage key.

    Tell me what key they used...
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    sounds like a good way to test if your ABS is working or not.

    I would only try that in very controlled circumstances or situations where there is no danger if the outcome is unexpected.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    I imagine they are smaller to allow for more ground clearance when off-road.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    It is not a stoppable offense in Taxachusetts.


    If you are stopped for something else, and found not wearing a seat belt, you could be fined.


    Sorry I couldn't find a better link, but this is the best I could do for now:

    http://www.state.ma.us/rmv/jol/8.htm

  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I don't know anything about the law. And I got no time for any legal research. But I wear my seatbelt just for my own safety. No matter when I am. Click it or ticket it, it is up to you to decide. Let's go back to the topic. Many people want to hear more about the Sorento.
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    mdsorento in #1477 told us about Sorento accessories from Cobra...THANKS! Unfortunately, their website says you have to be in Germany before you can order from them online. Additionally, they only list model year 2002 Sorentos (is that when Sorentos started selling in Europe and Korea?). Their USA distributor is Owens Classic Car International. I e-mailed them and this was their reply:


    "As soon as we know if the items will fit the US Models, we do list them on the site. In many cases, the vehicles have slight differences because of standards. So what might fit a European model, may not fit a US model.

     

    As soon as we know if the items will fit, they will be listed on our site."


    http://www.trucktoys4less.com/cobprodfromg.html

  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    How did you remove the cross members on the roof rack? I've only made a half-hearted effort thus far; it seems like a 2-person job, yes? Any hints/tips you can give would save me from taking out the sledgehammer! Thanks!
  • fmunoz1069fmunoz1069 Member Posts: 35
    You have to remove the roof rack from the vehicle. There are 6 screws on each track that you have to unscrew then the whole rack comes off, stand the rack on it end and press the buttons on the cross rails and slide them down to the end of the tracks. When you go to put the tracks back on the vehicle be careful you do not strip the screw, they are a fine thread and easy to do (i almost did). I cut down the wind noise a little by removing them. Any more questions let me know...
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    I sat in a Sorento last night for the first time. VERY NICE!

    I liked the quality. I liked the styling, both interior and exterior. I was satisfied with rear seat room, and cargo space.

    My only gripe was (IS!) that I can't fit in the darn thing!!! What a bummer! I really really like this truck, but my head hits the roof and the seat could go back maybe another inch or so. The model I tried was loaded with leather and sunroof, so maybe I could try one with just the leather or cloth seats and see how that fits me. What a disappointment!

    I forgot if I asked here before or not, are these available with a front bench seat?

    By the way, the colors were gold and beige or something like that. Very handsome, at least at night.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    lok888... I read your post on the Sorento problem section and I agree it is pretty strange that no where in the book does it mention the bulb type just the wattage. I guess if a bulb goes out you have to remove the bulb then take it to get a replacement. Also has anyone noticed this, or is it me and I am not seeing it. On most cars I have owned or been in that have fog lamps there is an indicator to let you know that they are on. I don't see anything in the sorento that does this.
    I have been waiting for two weeks on a question I wrote to Kia on wether the leather seats are all leather as the dealer thinks they are or just the inserts on the top and back of the seats. Reason is that some leather conditioners do not work well on vinyl. Anyone have any ideas.
    Any opinions. We should write up a wish list to Kia to tell them that as they improve on the Sorento to include some of the customer feed back they get.
    Thanks
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    hicaffa - Thanks for listening. I guess we have to take the light bulbs out to see what type is it. The owner's manual also has a lot of recommendation, warning and driving tips. There is no fog lamp indicator (which car has that?) but the fog light switch is on the turn signal/headlamp stick. I found the fog light will turn off when you flash (or turn on) the high beam. And you can't just turn on the fog light without turn the headlight on. Don't know why! It looks like you can't get more light on dark, remote or off-road area.
    Leather - I can smell the leather on the seating surface and the door panel. Yeah!! But I don't feel leather on the back and side of the seats. For me, they should also use vinyl on the headliner. It is easy to clean than the cloth. I have beige Sorento with beige leather interior. Soon or later the seat color will become tan. What do you use for leather cleaning and polishing? I will also add an active auto alarm (possible with car starter) for more security and insurance rate discount. The alarm system should be standard or factory opinion. I think Santa Fe LX has one.
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    hciaffa, for my opinion about what is covered in leather, please see #1154. I agree with you about the lack of a fog lights indicator. I also wish the Sorento has one. But then, I hardly notice any difference when they are turned on! Although haven't driven in any fog yet...just rainstorms.

    lok888, I could be wrong, but I don't think the door panels are lined in leather. Is it possible the 'leather smell' is actually the tanning or dyeing solution?
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    schip1 - If this is not leather on the door panel, they must did a better job on that make it feels and looks like leather. So, anyone has a suggestion for leather care product yet? Armor All has the wipes for leather seat cleaning. And it looks easy to use. Do you think the heated seat only works when you sit on it? I turn on the heated seat switch for the passenger's side with no one sit on it. I touched the seat and it was cool. I sat on it for few minutes. And I felt heat on my bottom.
    Also, did you figure out how to remove the cross bars and adding a safety device for your garage door? On some minivans and SUV, you have to remove the end caps by screwdriver and slide the cross bars to the end. You normally can't just remove the cross bars by press the release buttons or turn a knob. This is not safe.
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