Kia Sorento

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  • moonkatmoonkat Member Posts: 265
    Pilot gets 17/22 EPA mpg city/highway not 15/20.
    My first tank was 17 mpg mostly city/rural. I expect 20 mpg after break in of 5k miles just like my Odyssey.
  • abc246abc246 Member Posts: 305
    This is not normal for ABS. You should be able to "stomp and steer". I use my ABS all the time on snow and ice and have come to depend on it, so your information is not good for me. One time I had to use it down a icy mountain off road trail for about 1 mile with no guard rails.

    The ABS system ran the entire time. I was not able to use engine braking because the engine would not "speed up" during the steeper grades, because there was not enough traction on ice to overcome the engine so the SUV would slide.

    I found that if I put the SUV in neutral and let the ABS system control the speed there was no sliding. On the steeper grades the SUV would actually gain speed on the ice, but there was no sliding, the ABS computer modulated the brakes accordingly.

    Unfortunately, the problem you have will not be easy to fix. The dealer/KIA will say that is normal on snow or ice, but it is not. Most people will not test the system like you did and even if they did most would not know what to expect.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    What gear were you in when you tried engine braking coming down a mountain trail? I am assuming you were in 4-low. This still wasn't enough? Just trying to get a feel for the capabilities here, especially as I would like to use this for ski trips (which usually occur during a blizzard).
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    moonkat - You are right. Maybe I didn't double check my message before posting. I did wrote 17/23 mpg for Honda Pilot on a piece of paper. In addition, RX300 and MDX also get 17 to 18 in the city and 22 to 23 in highway. The first week my Sorento didn't do well on gas (a lot of idling, engine warm up and stop & go traffic).
    surfmaster, schip1 and hicaffa - I did went to my dealer and tried one of their Sorento. It has the same thing. I can see all the warning lights came on and chime sound for few seconds when I turned the key. Then I started the car and not wearing a seatbelt. The seatbelt warning light didn't come on to remind me to wear a seatbelt. The manager said this is also normal as some Ford and GM cars. Isn't it something?
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    I remember I used to disable the chimes on my old 78 Dodge Magnum and 92 Civic.

    Now people want them. I guess things change.
  • jmpats2000jmpats2000 Member Posts: 14
    I looked through the owner's manual on this topic and I'm not sure.

    Do you use the overdrive when driving under 50 MPH?
    Or just when you are driving over 50 MPH?

    Please let me know.

    Fuel economy has been very poor. They definitely have to improve that in the 2004 Sorento.
  • jmpats2000jmpats2000 Member Posts: 14
    and they told me that as I suspected, Overdrive should only be used for highway driving...

    I don't like how every time you start up the Sorento and overdrive is automatically on.

    Is this the case in your Sorentos as well?

    I would think that they would have engineered it so it was off by default until you want to turn it on ie when you are getting on the highway.

    Let me know what you think..
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    Isn't it automatic like other cars?

    Most automatics I know nowadays it is pretty much in the background, and you have a button to disable "hunting" for on mild inclines or traffic conditions. Otherwise, it is a no brainer as far as just let it do its thing.

    When is yours kicking into OD? Maybe there is a problem.

    ??
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    jmpats2000 - I am not familiar with the overdrive. I just leave it on at the time. Is it going to harm the transmission. I think it is kind of like D4 like my Accord. And I think when the O/D is off, I can only drive up to a certain speed. It is like D3. I have to double check the owner's manual.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    lok888... I got the same results as the others on the seatbelt indicator. Our Sorento comes on with all the other indicators and the warning bell rings for about 5 to 6 seconds, then it goes off. With motor running and when you un-latch the belt the is no warning. I tried this on my Ford Ranger and I had my mother's big Buick Park Ave and it does the same thing. I guess I really never noticed it before.
    Driving in overdrive... as with many 4x4 pickups like my Ranger there is a OD switch to disable it. Many manufacturers say to shut the OD off when driving in the city or around a lot of stop and go traffic. Doing this the tranny will not hunt and search as often in changing gears. Leaving it on will not hurt the tranny either it will just change gears more. Also with many pickups when you shut the OD off and then shut the engine off and restart the OD is back on again. Also when driving around the city when there is snow its better to turn the OD off and this will improve traction by have the gearing be lower.
    ABS in the snow... We had 6 inches just yesterday in CT. and we have had no problem when applying the ABS and having to steer. In fact I thought I read this in the manual that the engine/tranny will sense the slippage of any or one wheel and the ECU will engage the ABS to allow for traction and automatically slowing down the engine rpm for better control. I know that we have tried this in or area...bad weather, snowing and about 3 inches of snow going down a grade I could sense tranny do a drastic downshift and feel a sense of better traction come over the Sorento like the ABS kicked in by it self. Has anyone else felt this.
  • jmpats2000jmpats2000 Member Posts: 14
    Department is clueless. He has been driving Jeeps his whole life and always keep it on overdrive.

    He says you would only turn off overdrive when you are towing....This makes sense to me..

    My Sorento is an automatic.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    (took this from the "sorento problems" chat area where I mistakenly put it):

    Who here has towed with their Sorento?

    What did you tow, and how much weight?

    How did it pull? Any overheating? Handling?
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    One workaround I have seen is to plug in the seat belt BEFORE you get in, and then just sit with the seatbelt behind you if you don't want to see the alarm.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    hicaffa - This is not right. It should be on when seatbelt is not worn. And it should part of the safety features. I didn't notice this until the second day of driving it. People from my dealer also mentioned some Ford and GM cars about this. If I ever owned one of these car before, I wouldn't notice this like you. Where did Kia learn this from? I hope they think wearing seatbelt is more important than side airbags and ABS.
  • jmpats2000jmpats2000 Member Posts: 14
    Department is clueless. He has been driving Jeeps his whole life and always keep it on overdrive.

    He says you would only turn off overdrive when you are towing....This makes sense to me..

    My Sorento is an automatic.
  • jmpats2000jmpats2000 Member Posts: 14
    postings about the overdrive. I have consulted other folks who have had trucks and suv's and they agree that you should leave it on overdrive unless towing or driving down steep inclines.
    If going down deep inclines ie mountains,etc.
    you can turn it off and this will give you better traction....You can also turn on 4w low in this situation.

    Anyone know how to use the trip odometer? I didn't see anything on this in owner's manual.
    I noticed there was an A and B trip.

    thanks again
  • kiaworldkiaworld Member Posts: 2
    Hello, I'm a 1st time poster. I'm interested in purchasing the Sorento EX fully loaded. I have found the dealers in Central Florida to be a major turn off. They have smug attitudes & are unwilling to work with you to earn their trust and confidence. I'd like to hear from Florida Sorento owners in hopes that you had a great purchasing experience. If you are willing to recommend a dealer you will make my Holiday Wishes come true! Thank you.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I just got this little brochure for Sorento accessories. They only provide us the step bars and not the running boards. The bumper guard looks great. I wonder the cargo box (for Canadian Sorento) will fit the US Sorento. I want to get the sunroof deflector.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    lok888 the sun roof deflector can be bought at the dealership that you bought your Sorento at. but before your buy it try driving around with the sunroof open . Ours was not as noisy as we would expect it to be, so we may not get one.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I agree. It will be difficult for car wash and auto detailing. Have you programmed your Homelink yet? I think schip1 did. Schip1 - Do you have to buy any receiver for your garage door? I checked out the Homelink website for home lighting. They also sell some components for home lighting control. I emailed them and let's see what happen.
  • drieddried Member Posts: 36
    Looking at purcashing an EX - very interesting vehicle. I want to be able to pull a 2500 lb camper with it, along with 4 adults, in Colorado/Wyoming (high altitude). I know this is within the rating, which is 3500 lb. From the test drive, it FEELS like it should do OK, and based on my experience towing with an Isuzu Trooper it should be OK, but has anyone actually had a cahnce to tow something? Any thoughts?

    thanks!
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    lok888, the HomeLink unit 'learns' the coded RF signal from your existing garage door remote unit. After learning this signal, it transmits the exact same code, which is received by your existing garage door opener's receiver. So the short answer is, no...I did not need to buy another receiver.
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    jmpats2000, there's an elongated button on the face of the odometer. Press it quickly and it will cycle thru Trip A, Trip B, and regular odometer. If you keep it pressed for approx 3 seconds while it is displaying Trip A or Trip B, it will reset A or B to zero, respectively.
  • randyrhodesrandyrhodes Member Posts: 54
    If you want extra keys, you need to get them from the dealer.The factory key has a chip that the car will read using the onboard computer.If the code is a match, the car will start.Most car companys are using this method called "passive alarm".

    73
    Randy
  • fmunoz1069fmunoz1069 Member Posts: 35
    I am located in Central Florida and was able to get a deal from Southside Kia in Kissimmee . What dealers have you been to? I purchased a EX with Lux pkg, load level, hitch, cargo tray,and cargo net, they took very good care of me and was very satisfied with the way things were handled. Let me know if you need more info..
  • mdsorentomdsorento Member Posts: 22
    From the Manual page 4-56:
    "If the driver's lap/shoulder belt is not fastened when the key is turned ON or if it is unfastened after the key is ON, a chime sounds and the safety belt warning light remains on for 6 seconds. If the system does not operate as described, see an authorized Kia dealer..."
    Mine works as described only when turning the key to on , but not after is On and unfastened, I'll be visiting the dealer and ask them...
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    lok888... yes my Homelink buttons are programmed for my garage doors (2). I am using the two buttons to the left. Hint on using the buttons. You really just can't press the button and think it works you have to hold it down for a second.
    On the chip in the key... I talked to parts manager and service manager and they stated that there is no chip in the Sorento key, or else you couldn't go and get an after market key say at a lock smith or a home depot. Which someone posted that they were able to get. I had to purchase a chip key once for My mother's Buick the key alone was almost 80 dollars and then to program it was xtra as well.
    On the seat belt issue I think if most of the readers would check it out, that even in many other cars the indicator for the seat belt goes off after a few seconds and it dosen't come back on when you unlatch the belt. Only if you restart the car. Remember its only an indicator to remind you to buckle up what you do with your life as to wear it or not is up to you.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Finally more people are paying attention to the seatbelt warning light issue. I wear my seatbelt not because it is a law in MA, but it is my safety concern. At least I have a better chance to live when seatbelt is worn. Accident can happen in many ways. And I don't need any indicator to remind to wear seatbelt. But it seems to me this is meaningless to have the seatbelt light here. There are warning lights for the doors and the liftgate but the seatbelt.
    mdsorento - Maybe you just missed my previous posts. I read the owner's manual and I went to the service. I also tried another Sorento in the showroom. They told this is a normal condition (nothing wrong), just like some Ford and GM cars & trucks. They told the warning light will come on only when the seatbelt is malfunctioned. I just sent email to Kia Consumer Affair. I hope I can get an answer from them today.
  • jmpats2000jmpats2000 Member Posts: 14
    Schip1,
    Thanks for the information on the odometer (1438)
    I'll try that later when I get home..

    I think that is a cool feature to have.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    I knew I had read this somewhere its about the automatic braking that our Sorento EX with Luxury and auto 4x4. It is in an article that appeared in a Road and Track write up. Like I mentioned in a earlier post, I knew that we could feel this when driving on a snowy night going down a hill.


    "Having driven the Sorento off-road on the press introduction in northern Idaho, I found it to be as capable an off-roader as the top vehicles in its class. What's more, the full-time awd version includes a hill descending assist feature (no need for the driver to touch the brake; the car maintains a safe, slow speed automatically by invoking the ABS) normally found in the expensive luxury SUV segment."


    http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/firstdrives/articledisplay.asp?articleid=393

  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    No! It will do all that you said AND start the car as well. It's a hybrid car alarm (with pager) and car starter. In fact, when you start the car the lcd display shows exhaust coming from the rear of the vehicle to confirm the car has started.
  • jmpats2000jmpats2000 Member Posts: 14
    Schip1,
    Thanks for the information on the odometer (1438)
    I'll try that later when I get home..

    I think that is a cool feature to have.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Do you have more info on that? Website? I properly will find out the retailer as well. I and my brother's Honda both have alarm and car starter. They made by from Avital and Python But they don't have a pager type remote control to alert you the car is being tampered. I think I want to know if yours can also control the leftgate. Thanks.
  • drieddried Member Posts: 36
    do most of you keep your cars? If you own a Sorento, are you in the car for the long run or do you prefer changing cars every few years? I'm curious because I am the type to own the car forever and while admittedly the Sorento reliability will not be known for some time, this SUV looks really good. Kia has made great stides in quality, both the way the deaign and build cars. Owned a Trooper for 8 years (coulda gone 15 easy, but was wrecked) and while it was a great truck, it was the most expensive car I ever owned, even though I did the work myself.
  • acr1acr1 Member Posts: 1
    I am in the market of buying a Kia Sorento and I am not sure on my decision yet. I want to be sure about this purchase before I put forth the money. I was just wondering whats everyones thoughts about their Sorento-good and bad. Is the car performance good. thanks.
  • enskankenskank Member Posts: 5
    I posted awhile back that my Fiance bought a an EX, Lux Package, ABS, Spoiler for 24,800. This was at Holler KIA in Longwood. We worked with Paul, the Sales Manager. We live north of Tampa so paul and I had many telephone conversations before we actually went to Longwood to ink the deal. Very nice to work with, tell him Ed & Betty recommended him. Their Docs charge is high, $498. If you can get them to credit you more on a trade in or cut the price against that I think they are worth talking to. Good Luck.
    She still has some slight Vib. at certain speeds but I'm certain that is easily corrected by a tire spin balance. She has not yet been to the local dealer for any other post purchase issues. SO far so good. About 1700 miles.
  • enskankenskank Member Posts: 5
    As a quick addition to my post above..........
    Johnson KIA in Crystal River. Very good people....but could'nt deliver her color before Holler Kia. Suze or Dan (the Owner) are you contacts. Again you can ref. Betty & Ed. They will remember us even though we did not buy from them.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Guys, having owned TOD on my trooper and done some significant driving in the snow with both TOD and Subarus AWD system which works similar to the TOD system. If you feel the back coming out on a turn, you need to GAS it. Your initial instinct is to take your foot off the gas. With the TOD you'll want to apply a little more gas when you start to slip, this will move more power to the front wheels and pull you right out of it.

    My suggestion is that the next time it snows find a deserted parking lot and practice using it. It will help you out a lot.

    -mike
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    pasian - We haven't got any big snow strong in eastern MA. There were few snowfall. But there isn't any accumulation because of a recent warm temperature and rain. I have to drive mine on the snow to see how is the T.O.D. work. Should I set the 4x4 switch to Low and just Auto? Also, can someone explain to me the automatic load leveling on my Sorento? Is it some kind of suspension at the rear?
    hicaffa & schip1 - I just found out more about Homelink, home lighting control. I have to buy a vehicle interface, home control and plug-in lamp module at Sears and Radio Shack. They properly cost about $60 for everything.
  • nrooksnrooks Member Posts: 5
    I have developed rattles/vibrations in the dash and where the seatbelt attaches to the a pillar. Does anyone else have these and have you tried to get them fixed yet?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'd use the "auto" aka TOD for snow unless it's really deep and there is risk of being stuck in it. The advantage of TOD is that in the NE we get a lot of salted dry roads, then a spritz of un-plowed/untreated areas the TOD maintains stability during those times, whereas LO-range or PT-4wd can't be engaged quick enough to react to the changes.

    -mike
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Thanks. Would that be a chance that I won't stick in the sand or mud with 4WD or TOD? I made a mistake few years ago. And my car (sedan) stuck in the sand. There was a unpaved road near the beach. It was dark and there wasn't any warning signs or fences. I somehow drove to the sand. The harder I tried, the deeper I went in to. I finally called a tow truck. BTW, AAA didn't cover that because it is an off-road.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    For offroad driving, first thing you want to do is drop your tire pressure to about 15-20PSI, lower for sand, higher for mud/rocks. I have only found the Low-range to be useful for decending grades to assist in engine braking and for extremely steep climbs where the torque multipiler (lower gear) is needed for the engine. Also you'll find that low range is useful in backing up with a trailer on a steep hill.

    -mike
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    paisan - Some posters mentioned to use neutral and brake when descending a snow covered slope. And the ABS was kicked in too. Since the Sorento doesn't have those HDC like the Discovery, ML320/500 and 4Runner, is this a good way to do it on snow or dry slope?
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    lok888: You can find more info at http://www.compustar.org


    nrooks: I also have a slight buzzing vibration coming from the pillar where the seatbelt attaches to it. I've found re-adjusting the height of the seatbelt stops the buzzing. The sound does re-surface after a couple of days but I simply adjust the height again and it's gone.


    Hope it helps.

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Never have I ever heard to put it in neutral and brake! What I would suggest is that you put it in "L" or "1" with low-range engaged combined with moderate braking. Also feel out the brakes and see if ABS is non-interference or if it engages easily. I found on my Trooper that under 10mph the ABS won't kick in at all which is great for off-roading.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    What does the milage v. HP have to do with anything though? This arguement reminds me of the Pathfinder commercials, where their 3.5l engine produced like 240hp or 250hp at 6000rpms or something like that, funny part? The AT transmission it was coupled with shifted to a higher gear before you got anywhere near the RPM! HP #s do not tell the whole tale, so yes if you are gonna pull out one factoid then you are gonna win, but the overall picture does not point to a "weak" engine. And as I've shown over the course of 100,000 miles that slight decrease in fuel economy is more than overshadowed by less initial cost.

    -mike
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Will it cause damage to the engine and transmission when put it neutral and apply brakes when descending slop? But I think "L" or "1" with brakes will do the work.
  • kiaworldkiaworld Member Posts: 2
    Thank you for your comments. Sounds like you had a good experience with Holler. I did not. Maybe it's because I'm local. And even though I will most likely not purchase from them, I will still have to use them for service. That's not a good way to start a relationship.

    Also, I spoke to the other locations mentioned and they are looking for me... Once again, Thanks to both of your comments.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    If it's in neutral it won't cause damage, but you will get no help from the engine in stopping your vehicle. You'll be relying on the brakes 100% to stop you which is VERY Dangerous.

    -mike
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