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Think the 2003 pictures scared the public into action?
(I think so. Just an opinion.)
whotheman
You love to bait the trap don't you?
i tell them its their choice whether to buy an '02 with some discount, or pay more for an '03...decisions so far have been about 50/50. some dealers may hide the info from customers, but i highly doubt that the new accord has SCARED people into '02s. most people that choose the '02 say things like:
"body style doesnt matter, ill keep it till it dies anyway"
or
"not enough change to worry about it"
or
"ill get the next one in a few years anyway, so ill save the money for now"
noone so far has expressed any dislike for the looks of the car, but many ask why they cant have the current body with the new interior...lol.
What is the big secret?
This really irriates me as my car is in transit and I nor the dealer do not know what I will pay on Monday!
INKY
PS
$316 over invoice with $49.50 doc fee is guaranteed at my dealer. I hope others took advantage of that info I posted. I only know of two other Edmunds posters signing up for this great deal!
Second, why pay for a car that is over invoice with no history of the current model in terms of reliability? With the 2002, I got 10% off the MSRP plus a good financing rate.
Can't wait to read your review of your new Accord!
Thursday September 5, 12:41 pm ET
TORRANCE, Calif., Sept. 5 /PRNewswire/ -- Prices for the all-new 2003 Honda Accord line-up, with added standard features including anti-lock brakes, a tilt and telescoping steering wheel and more powerful, more fuel efficient engines, will increase an average of 1.37 percent or $293 on sales weighted basis, American Honda Motor Co., Inc., announced today. The 2003 Accords go on sale Sept. 9.
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"Our goal in developing the new Accord was to provide added value to consumers, while staying in the same price range," said Tom Elliott, American Honda executive vice president. "We worked hard to reduce development and manufacturing costs and the end result is additional standard equipment including ABS that consumers are asking for, with only a slight increase in price."
Prices for 2003 Civic and Odyssey models also were released. Civic prices will increase an average of 0.9 percent or $150. Odyssey prices increase an average of 0.55 percent or $150.
The Accord, the best-selling car in America last year and a perennial consumer favorite, has undergone it most dramatic full-model change ever for 2003. Accord prices will start at $15,800 for the DX Sedan now equipped with ABS, larger 15 inch wheels and tires, tilt and telescoping steering wheel, LED instrumentation and power windows.
The best-selling Accord model, the LX Sedan equipped with a 4-cylinder engine and automatic transmission, is priced at $20,000, an increase of $310 or 1.57 percent. The new 4-cylinder engine has increased in horsepower from 150 hp to 160 hp. The automatic transmission is now a 5-speed transmission for improved performance and fuel economy, compared to the 4-speed transmission used on the previous Accords and all other cars in the class. The new powertrain also provides increased fuel economy and lower emissions. The LX Sedan with an automatic transmission is now expected to earn an EPA city/highway rating of 24/33 mpg, compared to 23/30 mpg.
All 4-cylinder sedan models equipped with the automatic transmission sold in California also will meet the State's SULEV (Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle) emission requirement, a first for gasoline-powered mass-market vehicle.
Accord V6 models will feature a more powerful engine with 20 percent more horsepower, an increase from 200 hp to 240 hp, and a new 5-speed automatic transmission. Estimated EPA fuel economy is expected to increase from 20/28 mpg city/highway to 21/30. The Accord V6 LX, the best-selling V6 powered model, will carry a pricetag of $23,000, an increase of $400 or 1.77 percent. New standard equipment includes a security system with remote control and larger 16 inch wheels and tires.
Other new features available on 2003 Accord models include side curtain airbags, a Voice Activated Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation system and the second-generation Traction Control System (TCS) integrated with Electronic Throttle Control (ETC) for V6 models, and much more. Interior feature enhancements include increased front interior room and upgraded audio systems.
The Honda Civic, America's small car sales leader, will increase an average of 0.9 percent on a sales weighted basis or $155, despite significant equipment enhancements on the sedan and coupe models. Improved seat fabric, rear adjustable outboard headrests, a sporty 4-spoke steering wheel and a new center console with armrest and storage compartment (LX/EX) are just some of the new interior enhancements. The price of the best-selling Civic, the LX Sedan with automatic transmission, is $16,010, up $100 or 0.6 percent. There have been no changes to the prices of the Civic Si or Civic Hybrid models.
The class-leading Honda Odyssey minivan receives a significant number of new convenience features for 2003. An intermittent rear window wiper with washer, an automatic power down/up driver's window and a new "Wave" key are among the latest improvements. Standard equipment additions increase the price of the 2003 Odyssey an average of 0.55 percent on a sales weighted basis or $150. Odyssey pricing starts at $24,400 for the LX model
Destination and handling charges remain unchanged at $460 for all vehicles.
For a complete list of 2003 Accord, Civic and Odyssey prices, specifications and photography, visit www.hondanews.com. Pricing for the other Honda vehicles will be announced closer to their on-sale date.
INKY
The correct link is on this page... I didn't post the full link because it exceeds 115 characters and the forum software doesn't like that...
http://www.hondanews.com/Forms/honda/accord/index_epa.html?KW=accpricing+currenthonda
That was a $500 price increase for the EX V-6.
That is right at 2% not anywhere near the 1.4% average quoted. A bold price increase given the financial conditions in this country. I would have help prices to start.
Anyone know dealer costs please post!
INKY
The dealer is legit -- everything went as smoothly as it could.
I see that they are NOT offering the special deal on Pilots, S2000s and (I think) Odys. I'm a bit surprised that they are doing it on the 03 Accord.
Of course, the typical Accord buyer doesn't even know what Side Air Curtains are, so I guess it makes sense in a strange sort of a way.
Hmmm, I also see they're still putting drum brakes on the rear of the DX and LX, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprized about the Side Air Curtains. Wait, I forgot, the typical Accord buyer may not know the difference between disc and drum brakes either!
It is a definite evolutionary design. It won't offend the masses IMHO - it isn't such a departure like the Camry was. The plastiwood in the EX was a very light color and they use the "wave key". The sticker on the EX noted the remote had the window feature but it wasn't in the car for me to see.
All in all - it's a Honda Accord.
The salesrep came right out and said they are available for sale - just can't drive/deliver them until Monday.
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/parts/extension/accord/03accord.htm (sedan)
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/parts/extension/accordcpe/03accord.htm (coupe)
The best part about this site is that they have the installation documentation (PDF format) for those of us that like to DIY. But Beware...some of these installs are not for the faint of heart!
Once I installed an OEM security system in a 1997 Civic and had to take most of the dashboard apart! Not fun!
Most of this info will be public knowledge in a few days...but for those who like to know a little in advance - Enjoy!
put side curtain air bags on all trim levels as standard equipment.
I wouldn't be surprised if this would be one of the mid-life cycle upgrade (three years down the road), but not on all trims because it will add cost and no value to people who don't want it. Probably only on EX and both V6 models.
Now I have to admit, the feel, ride, power and comfort of the car will make it a winner, bueatifull lines and like I said, I didn't ask for a discount off sticker I was being fair by offering sticker...
I will be interested to see where and when the prices start to shift.. about the guy selling under MSRP, did he have the car or were they just taking orders.
I am in Orange County California, south of LA, if anyone finds a dealer with cars drop me a note, Im in no hurry but offered the guy a clean deal....I was prepared to write the check... he screwed around with us for 2 hours.. I told him if we were there another 15 minutes he would have to bring us breakfast...
Does anyone know the color combos available, I didn't see them on the honda site?
I think I would be more than happy with the 4 banger it seemed to get up and go pretty well....
Jeff
In the past I have stayed away from the frist year models of any car because of the bugs that usually are found by the first buyers, and that leads me to think that not getting that car last night may be a blessing..... Looking at the boards here on Edmunds I see quite a few quality issues with hondas talked about.
I noticed the new car has lots of electronics and that could be a big problem long term. I was sitting in the passanger seat when my wife turned the car on.... the glove box opened... well I just reached up and closed it, then about 5 minutes latter, it opened again on its own., this time I pushed it closed tightly, tugged on it to make sure it was not a mechanical issue and about 3 minutes latter... the glove box oppened. This didn't really seem an issue until we went take a car on a test drive, when I looked in before getting in to the car..... the glove box was open, and this was on a completely different car than the one that was on the showroom floor.... Possibly a sign that there could be a problem if it has an electronic switch to open the box?
I will be watching this board, if anyone has input and would like to email me rather than post here, send to davidki@yahoo.com
Dave, in Southern California
Thanks-
dh
While I didn't drive the cars, from looks alone, I wasn't excited. The other thing that disappoints me about Honda is that their colors are very boring and shared with Acura. If I were to spend the extra few thousand dollars on an Acura TL, I would want something exclusive. Instead, they both come in the same colors; they don't even try to disguise it by changing the names. It would be nice to feel like you were driving something that would be somewhat unique in the parking lot.
I commend Honda for achieving better gas mileage in both the 4 and 6 without sacrificing mileage or emissions.
Once the "hype" of the new model wears down, I'll probably take a test drive and consider purchasing one. However, by then, I might have to take a look at the redesigned TL!
INKY
we got a total of 31 accords this morning...5 trucks!! prepped an exv6 and an ex cloth. both with spoilers...the spoiler looks awesome!!! same pricing for spoiler as last year...we also put moonroof visors on them, and you'll like them i think...they have contour lines even!
to all considering an '03 accord:
be cautious of dealers with the "adjusted market value" stickers...most dealres will add equipment, but you do get something for the extra $$$.
Nothing makes me walk off a dealer's lot faster than seeing useless (and usually expensive) gadgets bolted onto an otherwise fine automobile.
I say let the consumer decide what they want before automatically adding pinstripes, spoilers, deflectors, underbody coating, etc. to every new car that rolls on to the lot.