Nissan Murano 2005 and earlier

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  • offset_98offset_98 Member Posts: 31
    Does anyone know if the upgraded Bose is XM compatible? I can't for the life of me remember!!
    Thanks
  • bgeguybgeguy Member Posts: 4
    Just took the M-O out in 30" of snow. The M-O did very well. I have an AWD SL. The M-O was stable, carried good traction and got through the snow well. The only issue was that the snow in some areas was too high for the 7" clearance. Just thought I'd pass on that it did better than I thought in the snow.
  • ek01ek01 Member Posts: 37
    Anybody have some data or thought on how the Murano will rate on the safety tests by NHTSA and IIHS. Historically, Nissans have not done as well as the German makers or Honda or Toyota.
  • dbb_841dbb_841 Member Posts: 4
    I live in MA, bought a SE AWD Sunlit Copper/Cab leather with Pop, Cold pkges, floor mats and splash guards. MSRP of appr. 34,800, negotiated a deal for 33K even (had to wait 2.5 weeks for delivery). I have around 3500K on it now.
    Here are some thoughts after owning the car for more than a month.

    Pros:
    1) The car is absolutely fantastic in the snow, handles and holds the road great. When breaking on slush, snow, and ice, keeps a straight line.
    2) Overall I'd describe an SE as smooth but sporty. I was looking for a stiffer but not truck-like ride, and found that in a Murano SE.
    3) CVT works great, no drag... When I put it to S-position, RPMs kick in and the car just blows by people, although I don't use this position regularly.
    3) Interior is very comfortable: seats, controls, Bose sound system, climate control;
    4) it seems that Nissan paid a lot of attention to small details, making an overall driving experience more fun;
    5) love the colors and design decisions;
    6) insurance costs very reasonably.

    Cons:
    1) So far I haven't been able to break 20 MPG getting 19-19.5 MPG, even though I drive mostly on a highway using 93 unleaded.

    Before I bought a Murano, I test drove the following models: X-terra, Pilot, RX300, Pathfinder, 4Runner, Highlander, MDX, and latest Volvo SUV. My choice was an MDX, but when I saw and drove a Murano, I changed my mind. The drive was much more fun, and extra 6K or so helped as well :).

    -D
  • mazak1mazak1 Member Posts: 1
    I BOUGHT A SE MURANO WITH LEATHER THIS WEEK AND I AM ONLY GETTING 11-12 MPG AROUND TOWN. I ONLY HAVE 400 MILES ON IT, PLEASE TELL ME THIS WILL GET BETTER. I AM A VERY CONSERVATIVE DRIVER.HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM? I ALSO HAVE THAT POPPING NOISE WHEN MY CAR GOES OVER BUMPS. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE HAD THEIR NOISE FIXED?I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH PROBLEM I AM GOING TO HAVE GETTING THEM TO FIX IT.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    lose the all caps - it's very hard to read your "shouting."

    It's winter and your new ride isn't broken in yet. It'll get better in a month or three, and likely continue to improve for 10,000 miles+. Check your tire pressure for grins anyway.

    Don't know about the popping.

    Steve, Host
  • lmp180psulmp180psu Member Posts: 399
    Read post #1064 for info regarding someone who had his/her popping noise fixed.
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    The new Altima chassis is supposedly under the Murano and the new Altima did pretty well on the crash tests (not great)but OK. I'm guessing that the Murano will do at least as well (if not better) just due to the higher ride height.

    Nissan has a history of improving their crash test scores on just about all of their vehicles year over year so I'm hoping for some improved (over the Altima) scores since I just ordered my Murano last Saturday.

    I have sent e-mails to both crash testing agencies inquiring about the schedule for testing a Murano and haven't gotten a response back from either one yet (on't really expect too either).
  • roadrunner70roadrunner70 Member Posts: 241
    i noticed that several messages mention tow package as being purchased. what does that include. my shopping research indicates its just the receiver and ball mount, no wiring harness, no trans cooler, etc. any information would be very much appreciated. also, has anyone purchased the tow package and received a 2" box, rather than the 1.4" box. thanks.
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    Saw it this weekend for the first time on a Murano SL on the dealer's lot. Included the receiver and a wiring harness sitting right next to it at just below the bumper height.

    Didn't notice the size of the receiver however.
  • skillet1skillet1 Member Posts: 10
    Have had the Murano just over 2 weeks now. First the good stuff. I was very impressed with the way the Murano drove/handled in 10" of snow. It was far superior to the way my Outback handled the snow and thats saying something cause the Outbacks are notorious for snow-driving ability. So far I am getting 19.5 mpg mixed driving in very cold weather using 89 octane. But my tire pressure monitor is driving me nuts. The idiot light has been on since the day after I picked it up. The light is not so bad but the stupid thing "beeps" constantly driving down the road letting me know I have a flat. All pressures read 29-30 psi ( in the cold ). The dealer had it for two days to no avail. Them guys didn't know a thing or do a thing in 2 days. They finally called me and said the light was out and they couldn't duplicate it again. I picked it up and the next day it started beeping again. I've contacted Nissan but they have not replied. The owners manual is useless, it never even talks about the beeping or how to reset the light/beep once a flat is changed ( if it really was a flat). Anyway, is anyone else having the same problem or does anyone know anything about the tire pressure system ??? Thanks, I'll keep you all posted with what happens. BTW, should get my custom painted molding installed this week, I'll let ya'all know how it looks.
  • dweiserdweiser Member Posts: 288
    Don't mean to sound stupid but what's the (optional) front rhino-pusher I've seen mentioned here for the Murano? I'm not intending on pushing (or running over) any wild animals. What is it for? Is it a Nissan product? Is there a Supreme being? Was Hegel right?
    :)
    Thanks,
    Don
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    Umm, not post 1064. Popping saga completed on page 54, post 1062.
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    But my tire pressure monitor is driving me nuts. The idiot light has been on since the day after I picked it up.
    Why, do you suppose, is it called an idiot light? ;-)

    The light is not so bad but the stupid thing "beeps" constantly driving down the road letting me know I have a flat. All pressures read 29-30 psi ( in the cold ).
    This is way too low. Check the placard on the inside of the driver's door jamb and you will discover the recommended tire inflation pressure is 33psi, front and rear (SL), measured when cold.

    It has been suggested that much of the Ford Explorer/Firestone Wilderness AT mayhem was the direct result of consistently running the tires at low tire pressure. Whether this was recommended by the automaker or the tire maker or changed by the dealer or the customer is what the lawyers get paid to argue. Apparently, many people like that "low profile fat tire look" you get when you don't have enough air in the tire, and don't realize that it damages and weakens the sidewall of the tire. Or they mistakenly believe it will improve their traction or gas mileage.

    Tires are designed to be operated only in a specific range of tire pressures. You are operating yours outside the range, your new vehicle is doing its best to alert you to that error, and you have been ignoring it so far.

    The dealer had it for two days to no avail. Them guys didn't know a thing or do a thing in 2 days. They finally called me and said the light was out and they couldn't duplicate it again.
    Perhaps they had it inside their heated garage and the tires warmed up, or maybe it was a warm spell when they had it compared to the days you drove it.

    From thermodynamics, PV=nRT, which in this context can be simplified to: as the ambient outside air temperature varies from day to day, your tire's pressure will vary in direct proportion. Warmer weather, higher "cold" tire pressure. Colder weather, lower "cold" tire pressure.

    Irrespective of the weather, the tires are/were obviously low, and the servicing dealer should have at least topped them off. I'd suggest you take your service to a dealer that is one of the sharper knives in the drawer.

    I picked it up and the next day it started beeping again. I've contacted Nissan but they have not replied. The owners manual is useless, it never even talks about the beeping or how to reset the light/beep once a flat is changed ( if it really was a flat).
    If you read Chapter 8, it refers you to the placard that has been standard on vehicles sold in the USA since... well, a long time. You will find the recommended cold tire pressures there (33psi/33psi). There is no way and no need to reset the beeping because as soon as the tires have at least the recommended pressure, the beeping will automatically stop.

    Try it if you don't believe me... just put 4 pounds more into each tire to bring them at least to their MINIMUM designed inflation pressure, and make sure all four wheels are evenly inflated. Your Murano will be much happier with you, and you are less likely to suffer a fatigue-induced tire blowout.

    Note that the MAXIMUM designed inflation pressure is moulded into the sidewall of the tire. Never exceed this number. On my SL with Goodyear tires, that is marked 44psi.
  • lmp180psulmp180psu Member Posts: 399
    thanks for correcting me on the location of your post about the popping sound. I guess it is the thought that counts :)
  • spsepsspseps Member Posts: 6
    where did you find the side molding and who is installing it? i definitely think this vehicle needs some side protection.
  • dbb_841dbb_841 Member Posts: 4
    Forgot to mention another "con": wipers and overall "windshield cleaning action". It's more of annoyance actually, not a full-blown negative. The matter is that the wipers' base position is rather deep, thus I can't pull them fully up when manually cleaning the windshield.
    As for the cleaning action, the water blows on the windshield rather low, so it takes couple extra seconds to get it fully cleaned. It may be that I need to adjust the water angle...
  • roadrunner70roadrunner70 Member Posts: 241
    tow pack: spoke with one dealer who said that if car is deliverd w/o tow pack, he can get aftermarket hitch/harness, and he quoted $350 installed. therefore, i have decided not to order one with the factory installed hitch. p.s. last year purchased a 2002 highlander with factory tow (to get the tranny cooler, etc. and the hitch and harness) and the invoice price was, if mmeory serves in the $300 range. anyone else go aftermarket yet? (should we start a new subject on towing, etc.??)

    side molding: after measuring, looking at other vehicles, etc. i have decided to go with black molding just above the indent on the doors. i have looked at bmw x4s and they all have black molding and it looks fine. one dealer quoted me $600.00 for painted molding, which is crazy. i will do some research on the different brands of black molding available. i also intend to inquire at to the availability and price of the bmw molding which would be perfect on the murano. anyone else have ideas on this point?
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    I saw it (the Nissan towing package for $529)installed on an AWD SL at the Nissan dealer on Saturday.

    The hitch and the wiring harness were sitting there right next to each other, covered with nice heavy thick rubber protectors.

    I ordered mine with the towing package and based on what I saw, am expecting it to be ready to go except for the actual connection to the trailer.

    I wonder what your dealer is really quoting for $350? Mine said the actual connection to the trailer was available for $350. I said I'd pass as I'm sure I can get it done for way less than that.

    Here's a link to the Hidden Hitch web page for comparison:

    http://www.hiddenhitch.com/Home/index.asp?
  • mmmits23mmmits23 Member Posts: 3
    GUST334 Please e-mail me ASAP. (mmmits23@aol.com) I have a Murano with the same popping sound. My dealer wanted to know the name of the dealer that you had those shock parts replaced at. Please help me out. She said if you had your VIN# that would also help out a lot. Thank you very much in advance!

    Timm (mmmits23@aol.com)
  • skillet1skillet1 Member Posts: 10
    hey spseps I'm getting the molding at Accent Stripping and Molding in Omaha. They are a private business that has been here forever. They do great work for super reasonable prices. I'm getting 1" primered molding w/ bullet ends that will be painted and installed for $230.00 ( plus tax) total. They did give me about a %10 discount because I had my 3m expel hood guard installed there also. I'm still thinking about getting that done to the head/fog lights too. By the way the side molding is a 3m adhesive also. Hey roadrunner I had these guys put on a black piece of side molding before I ordered the primered/painted ones and it looked horrible on polished pewter. Don't know what color you have but make sure it looks right before you buy because if they cut it they won't take it back. Finally, thanks gust334 for all your tire pressure advice. It worked just like you said. The only drawback is that I had to put 36psi in the tires for the monitors to read 32psi. I checked with two tire guages. The dealer had told me that they put 33psi in all tires and thats why I was reading 29-30. For some reason the tire pressure monitors seem to be off by 3-4 psi. Not a big deal, just rather run the tires ~33 psi. It beats all the beeping for sure. Thanks again.
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    You're welcome!

    The only drawback is that I had to put 36psi in the tires for the monitors to read 32psi. I checked with two tire guages.

    Two gauges agreeing doesn't mean they're both right, but I agree with you that it sounds like the automatic pressure monitors in your vehicle might be miscalibrated. The service manual doesn't list any adjustment other than replacing the transmitters. The trigger threshold is indicated as 27psi.

    The dealer had told me that they put 33psi in all tires and thats why I was reading 29-30. For some reason the tire pressure monitors seem to be off by 3-4 psi. Not a big deal, just rather run the tires ~33 psi. It beats all the beeping for sure. Thanks again.

    The only disadvantage to the higher pressure is that the ride will be somewhat harsher over bumps. As an advantage, there will be less sidewall flex and steering will seem more responsive and precise.
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    (1) Each transmitter includes a battery. No big surprise there, but there is no indication that it can be replaced separately from the whole transmitter, or what the service life is expected to be.

    (2) The owners manual (pg 5-3) says the order in which the tire pressures are listed on the dash display is insignificant. However, the service manual details a procedure where each transmitter is "taught" which wheel it is mounted in, starting with front LH, front RH, rear LH, and completing with rear RH. I can confirm this is the order in which pressures are presently listed on my display, and perhaps this is the default from the factory. I suspect the reason the owners manual and service manual are different is that the tire rotation procedure does not include the step to re-teach the system which wheel is which, thus you lose the mapping when you rotate tires.

    (3) The pictures imply the valve assembly is actually part of the transmitter, e.g. you inflate the tire through the transmitter. The text is vague on this point.
  • rmarchesrmarches Member Posts: 1
    from pg45 #868 : baataboom asked "How to prevent the horn from sounding when the keyless lock is used"

    Press the LOCK and UNLOCK keys for more then 2 seconds (until the hazzards flash 3 times) from then on, two flashes and no horn. Manual pg 3-5
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    Since you have both manuals, could you compare the product offered by SmartTire.com with the Nissan instructions for teaching the system where each transmitter is located?

    SmartTire.com sells OEM and aftermarket systems and I have one of their aftermarket systems on my 00 Maxima SE.

    I'm interested in the battery life also since I drive so many miles. The smart tire system says the battery life is roughly 5 years and that the batteries are not user replaceable. Finding a place to install them was also a little bit of a hassle.

    You have to buy new transmitters.

    I'm curious what the long term costs will be to keep the transmitters functioning properly (I ordered my Murano 2/15).

    I suspect that since more and more manufacturers are putting these systems on more and more models, the costs will eventually come down.

    (I am a little concerned about what Nissan dealers will charge for the new transmitters.)
  • balithaibalithai Member Posts: 14
    I've just recently started considering a Murano. Edmund's doesn't have the invoice info yet. Where did you guys find that info? Also - the ad's for the Murano talk about an optional DVD entertainment system (not the navi system) and it is mentioned on Edmund's. But the Nissan website doesn't mention it. Does anyone know anything about it?
  • roadrunner70roadrunner70 Member Posts: 241
    to skillet, thanks for the info. i am getting a silver murano, and based on the bmw x5s which i have seen, the black looks fine. however, watch out for the forward point on the molding. it could be pinched by the predeeding front fender or front door (for the back door molding). i intend to find out the price etc for the x5 molding since it is indented at the front.

    on the tow, after i posted my last message i did some internet research. hidden hitch has the hitch now for about $139.00 but it is a 1.5" box. they also have the wiring harness. Valley hitches will be coming out with one with a 2" box, for those of us who already have our bike carriers and hitch balls for a 2" box. they expect it in a month or two.
  • mmmits23mmmits23 Member Posts: 3
    GUST334 Please e-mail me ASAP. (mmmits23@aol.com) I have a Murano with the same popping sound. My dealer wanted to know the name of the dealer that you had those shock parts replaced at. Please help me out. She said if you had your VIN# that would also help out a lot. Thank you very much in advance!

    Timm (mmmits23@aol.com)
  • stew24stew24 Member Posts: 28
    Can the sensitivity controller for automatic headlights be adjusted ? My auto headlights don't turn on until it's dangerously dark ! They also don't automatically turn on with wipers (Thought all manufacturers recgnized the importance of this) In daytime rainstorms with very little visabilty they are very late to turn on. This is very dangerous ! My previous Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited's system was far better. They always came on promptly in inclimate weather. Can this be adjusted on the Murano ? Can they be made to turn on automatically with wipers ?
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    Nissan's system is integrated into the valve stem at the rim of the wheel. ST uses a big band clamp to secure their transmitter to the inside of the wheel.

    Nissan's system has to teach each transmitter which wheel it is on. There are two different ways to do this; both require the dealer dongle (CONSULT2) and one of the additionally requires an "activator" module. ST's system has precoded transmitters, and they use a simple color-coding system to track wheel-to-display.

    Neither system seems to permit any adjustment of pressure thresholds.

    Neither system seems to permit battery replacement. Nissan does not specify the battery life.
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    The headlight sensor is located forward of the driver's seat. You might try partially obscuring it with tape so that it is less likely to see enough sunlight.
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    I vaguely recall this was a DVD player and LCD screen that mounted low in the center console, so that rear seat passengers could view it. I think there is a picture in the literature pack you can get from the Nissan dealer. I also can't remember if it interfered with or replaced the rear cub holders... anybody else know for sure?
  • jxlxrjxlxr Member Posts: 61
    Go to "the other" pricing site, starts with a K ends with a B and has a B in the middle. Last time I posted another site I received an ugly warning not to ever do it again under penalty of death. There will be a DVD system with late availability. Maybe spring or summer, no announcement as of yet.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Nah, it's just promoting competing auto forums that get our beancounters upset.

    Check this out about the other guy's non-invoice pricing though:

    What is the "Kelley Blue Book" Price?

    Steve, Host
  • stew24stew24 Member Posts: 28
    Tell me more about where exactly the sensor is. I'd sure like to obsure it a little bit. For years i've complained about people driving in inclimate weather without turning on their lights to help enable others to see them. Because my previous vehicles auto headlights worked so good, I assume the same from the Murano, but in fact found myself driving a silver SUV in a "gray" visibility driving rainstorm, WITHOUT any headlights on, ... because either the sensor didn't think it was dark enough, or the lights don't come on with the wipers. Either way, I had driven a few miles before I noticed they weren't on. Quite dangerous, and rather embarrassing as well.
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    Not available yet according to Nissan dealers. This is a good link to a Nissan dealer's page that lists currently available Murano accessories at a discount to what I've seen most places. Note the link at the top of the page that references the "Murano fluid capacities and other specs". Pretty interesting page!

    http://www.courtesyparts.com/murano/index.html

    I noticed that it reccomends premium gas. Is that true? I thought most owners were running regular or mid-grade?
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    ... has a picture showing the location of the sensor, and the warning:

    Be sure not to put anything on top of the photo sensor (A) located on the top left-hand side of the instrument panel. The photo sensor controls the autolamp; if it is covered, the photo sensor reacts as if it is dark and the headlights will illuminate.

    The sensor is the round thing about the size of a coin that you can see where the windshield comes down to the top of the dash.
  • jxlxrjxlxr Member Posts: 61
    I can understand to a degree that you want to keep your client base here and not at the "competitors" but many of the people who post here also visit other forums. When a new person comes to this site looking for info on a topic, there is a good chance that there is a ton of info already discussed on the more specific enthusiast sites. I have also seen postings from this site referenced on others so the wheel doesn't need to get recreated. Besides those sites don't usually have the other content that you have.

    The point is very clear since there is only one general thread allowed per make. So if people want to discuss a topic it gets mingled with others and it becomes hard to follow. These forums remind me of a guy at work who, everytime you start a conversation begins to go off on all sorts of tangents that have nothing to do with what was originally asked. That usually happened other sight as well, but that is when people run out of things to say and just want to type!

    So the point is that your site is completely different than the enthusiast sites and they should not be considered competitors, rather you compliment each other. I enjoy both and will continue to do so. Nasty-grams and all....
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    We have no problem with the mere mention of other automotive sites nor with indicating specific useful information resides there. The key element is the promotion of those sites particularly those with forums and which typically have the same policy that Edmunds has. They do not expect or condone inviting people to leave there and go elsewhere.

    Surely you see the logic in that!

    tidester, host
  • dweiserdweiser Member Posts: 288
    I don't mean to be critical but it seems like a lot of Murano owners either didn't get an owner's manual with their new vehicle or they don't know how to read it! C'mon folks, try looking in your manual before posting stupid questions.
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    Timm, since you have never responded to my email, I'm not sure you're still interested. However, for other folks that have a plastic popping sound over bumps in their Murano:

    I talked to my service advisor Friday and he said his dealership would be happy to service any Nissan vehicle under USA warranty, regardless of where in the USA you may have purchased it. He is also willing to talk with Nissan service advisors at other dealerships should the need arise.

    Liberty Auto Plaza
    920 S. Milwakuee Ave
    Libertyville, IL 60048

    Tom and Steve, other than being a very satisfied customer, I have no other relationship with this dealership and staff. You each deleted my previous post for providing a contact name and a phone number. I have removed them for this repost. Based on your emails, I believe this post now complies with the Edmunds Member Agreement; please advise if it needs further editing.
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    Don, I agree with your comment about Read The Fine Manual. However, the contemporary conspiracy of lawyers have made the thing almost unreadable. You get two snippets of information followed by three pages of SCREAMING LEGAL WARNINGS AND DISCLAIMERS, and this pattern repeats throughout the entire manual.

    If anything, it is a sad commentary on the state of our society and legal system that we have to take so many pages to explicitly tell people to put air in their tires and their kids in child seats.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Some of the posters here aren't owners and don't have manuals. Others are "on-break" at work and can't get to the Murano to check something, or their wife/husband has it that day (that's my usual excuse).

    And sometimes the stuff in the manual isn't clear, glosses over things, or is flat wrong.

    Steve, Host
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Nicely done!

    tidester, host
  • jiaminjiamin Member Posts: 556
    Im not buying Murano so my test drive is cery brief, about 10 minutes, half on freeway. Generally it's a wonderful car. Wish its overall noise level could be lower. Now its noise is about the same as my 02 QX4. Floor the acceleration pedal I feel its strong power with no abrupt down shift (of cause). The rear view is not so good because of the oddly shaped rear openings.
  • mmmits23mmmits23 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the info, I don't recall ever getting an e-mail from you, but this should be all the info I need, I appreciate the help!

    Timm (mmmits23@aol.com)
  • roadrunner70roadrunner70 Member Posts: 241
    does anyone know if you have to "accept" the nav system (hit the enter button) each time you start the vehicle? thanks.
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    Yes. Thank the lawyers.

    It's on all three of the manufacturer's Nav system I've driven so far this year.

    Infiniti I-35 and G-35
    Nissan Maxima and Murano
    Toyota 4 Runner and Avalon

    I drove a 4 Runner LTD 4WD for a week on an extended test drive. It's not really that annoying once you get used to it. Or maybe I'm just adapting easier as I get older:-)
  • bspzbspz Member Posts: 35
    on the "popping noise". I, too, had the noise in my Murano, but now in the past two weeks or so, it has mysteriously not been heard. I am nearing 1000 miles and was wondering what mileage others had on theirs and if the noise is still occurring. Thanks.
  • nissanlove2001nissanlove2001 Member Posts: 11
    hey everyone, check out some pics of our gold murano sl(canadian version)http://members.cardomain.com/nissanlove2002
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