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As far as the CVT in sub-zero temps - I haven't noticed any adverse effects down to -15 deg. We had a couple in the last week or two and it seemed to run normal.
When we leased ours three weeks ago the dealers in Indianapolis had a total of 6 in stock and our dealer said he's had to dealer trade from Kentucky and Ohio to satisfy his sales...he can't get them fast enough.
Leather is great, holds up much better than cloth but you definitely need the heated seats since leather gets cold (and hot). My wife loves them. I could have bought a KIA, as long as it had heated seats.
Keep in mind that most well equipped Muranos on dealer lots now have the cold package at no charge so you shouldn't have to pay for it. If you custom order it, you might. Check inventory at the Nissan site and pick a car and you will see Cold Pkg - no chg.
I live in St. Louis area and earlier comment mentioned that they thought only about 7 or so were available in this area. The St. Louis area dealership I bought from had 15 recently come in but were down to 9, 19 set to arrive in February and the salesman that sold me mine had sold 4 and was behind the guy in first place. This is their third allotment. One other St. Louis dealership I visited also had 8 or 9 --if you were at their web sites and checking inventory they are often behind in posting inventory--my dealer recently lost their web site person so they have not updated their inventory for two weeks. Some areas I am sure are selling better than others because of economic conditions.
Took me about a month to compare and price all the vehicles that I was considering.
The dealership I used cannot keep them they are selling great. Every time I went back some were sold that were there the last time. I cannot elieve all you get as standard options. Paid 200 over invoice for base model.
Okay, okay I am a little wired after just getting home but spent lots of time on this board and drove them a bunch and glad I did it!!!! Thanks to all of you for the great info it was soooooooooo much help!!!
Steve, Host
Super Black cloth Cafe Latte which is very light coffee color with lots of cream in coffee. At first I did not like this at all but drove it and when surrounded by all the color I began to see the contrasting colors of the front part of dash next to windshield, and lower side door panels plus floor mats. So with that being much cooler in summer and not showing every piece of white lint like charcoal does I went for it. No kids, no pets so no worry about very light color.
I also have a street rod and clean that with California Duster to remove dust---- black cars and my street rod (dark, dark purple almost black) dust shows from just sitting in garage it seems and will buy one for the Murano and save a few car washes when all that is on there is dust from a few days since last car wash. Nothing looks better than black IMO when clean or worse when dirty.
By the way, I've had my SL AWD for a month now, and I haven't had any problems at all. I especially love the cabin spaciousness, and all my friends comment on how much room they have, even when they're sitting in the middle in back. Also, my 6'3" son doesn't have to put the seat back very far to have comfortable leg room.
To the folks that are having the "popping" sounds, first thing I did was take out the cargo cover as the one I had in my Explorer rattled like a mariachi.
From the service manual, it looks like the only way to do it requires the special service dongle that the dealer has. If there is a way to do it without the dongle, it isn't obvious.
I took a look back there while getting my Maxima serviced at the dealership recently and it looked a little tight back there.
Just wondering.
Thanks.
above even the Maxima (and even infringing on Infiniti QX-4 territory)...that's $47-55,000 including taxes in the Great White North, maybe they need to do a Sentra-based "son-of-Murano" with a CVT and the Altima/Spec-V four cylinder.
Especially since the affordable, available-everywhere-in-the-world-but-here X-Trail has yet to make an appearance. What do you think, cb70?
Would a raised awd Sentra-based sportwagon fit the bill? It's time Nissan started paying attention to the other end of it's lineup.
Take a set to the dealer, they're not going to mind.
Has anyone gotten their insurance bill since they bought the Murano? NJ is the highest in the US, so I'm curious to see how much of a jump in rates I'm going to deal with...
Thx
WCD
I have not treated myself to a new car in 8 years, but after driving the Murano SE AWD I don't think I will be able to deny myself further. My Birthday is next week and I just might have to show up at my own birthday party in my new...
That is if the car actually exists in-stock anywhere.
Again, thanks,
John
Nothing on www.nissanusa. com to support this, but I would love it as a freeby. Beats the nearly 500 bucks and I don't care about heated mirrors. I have the feature on my Volvo, had the car 8 years and never had the need for heated mirrors, but the seats are great!
Printerman, tell your dealer you would prefer an extra $500 off the car instead of the cold package. Since they can't get you a car without it, you'll make out. See their face go cold.
But probably did not answer your original questions. No doubt they could be added but packages are always cheaper for the parts you get.
Could not say if bolts come through roof.
You can follow the link below for the full-size picture.
http://www.f150online.com/galleries/pictureview.cfm?pnum=49524&am- p;am- p;anum=3389
I worked thru my credit union auto broker and she was able to get me an SL AWD fully loaded with NAV for 1500 above invoice. Took that price to several dealers, and found another who's willing to take it down to 1200 above invoice... so if anybody's looking in NJ - don't let them tell you they are only going to take the MSRP - looks like a lot of dealers are willing to deal
I am not sure if I need this protection plan. The finance department from Nissan in Virginia, he wants to sell this to me for $1400 (6 years/100,000 miles Gold Preferred package). Please let me know if this is a good package to have. My car's Insurance also has this similar package for $60/year with $250 deductible. Thanks.
The drivetrain warranty on the Murano is 5 years/60,000 miles. So unless you're worried about the electrical components or navigation system going on the fritz, you're really only buying one year/40,000 miles for what I think are the most expensive parts to repair.
And you need to check to fine print to make sure the warranty covers everything that may go wrong. If it's not in writing, don't count on coverage.
Usually you can buy the extended warranty anytime before the basic 3/36 warranty expires too, so don't be rushed into something. Extended warranties are a big profit center for the dealer.
Finally, I recommend that you go to the very top right of this page and click on "Search" and then go to the very bottom of the search page. Type "extended" into the Key Word Search box and browse some of the articles that will show up.
Steve, Host
As to whether of not it's a wise investment, that's a personal decision.
I think I'd put the $1400 in a savings account of some kind and wait to see how the vehicle behaves.
I think that you can add the extended warranty at any time after purchase but before the factory warranty expires?
I just wish I would have done my homework before I signed the deal. After a full day of shopping I kind of wore down at the dealership and wasn't thinking on my toes. I was more interested in my monthly lease payment rather than what value they were assigning the vehicle.
Basically I paid MSRP for a SE AWD, sheer silver with charcoal leather. Loaded except navigation. The dealership paid my last two Envoy lease payments and gave me a $50 internet incentive check. I took delivery without a money down. 4yr/12K sign and drive lease at $543 a month. That includes tax. Bad deal?
Steve, Host
I bought the extended warranty from Nissan at the time I bought my 00 Maxima SE in September 1999. I purchased the 100k 48 months no deductible on a $30k MSRP sticker for $980.
This was the first time I ever bought an extended warranty and at the time thought what the heck, the Max was loaded with every option except Nav and I must have my car working to get to work and make any money (I'm in a 100% commission industry).
I will say that whenever I had any complaints or issues with the car right up to the 100k, (I'm at 120K now) the dealer just fixed it without any hassles.
Based on my prior experience,I'm pretty sure I'd buy it again on the Murano. I used it three times on the Max. Once to get the windshield replaced at about 55k, once for a bad front strut at 85k, and again for a squeaky blower motor in the HVAC system at about 95k so I know I got my money's worth. (The windshield alone would have been $700).
I'm a bit worrfied about the CVT and how reliable will it be? My gut tells me it'll be fine but if anything does fail I bet it'll be huge $$ to fix.
How do they manage to exclude the Nav system and the Bose? Seems to me the Bose was covered in my 00 Max.
When the salesman approached me, I asked if the pricing was negotiable off MSRP and he told me that "Definitely not. These things are moving like crazy. We can't keep them on the lot!"
When I contacted that same dealership (and 9 others in the Atlanta area) by email via the Nissan website, telling them I was a serious buyer, the model I wanted and the options I wanted on it to determine if they would beat or match Carmax SC's price, they did (as did 6 others, including two that beat it by $100).
The moral of the story? If you are a serious buyer in the Atlanta area, contact every dealership within 25 miles with Carmax price letting them know you have no interest in playing games and they will match or beat it. It worked for us. The demand is simply not that high in Atlanta. The proof is on the lots.
I drove by yesterday, that same dealership appears to have more Murano's in inventory than they did two weeks ago. I imagine that their sleezy dealership games have prevented a sale or two.
I ended buying our Murano SL 2WD w/Nav for $500 over invoice at the same dealership we bought our 2002 Altima SE 3.5 from last year.
Overall it's a great vehicle. Now if we could only get the SAT radio issue worked out...
"Dear Dklanecky,
Thank you for contacting Nissan North America, Inc. and allowing us the
opportunity to be of assistance.
We appreciate your time and concern in contacting us. The satellite radio
for the Murano is late availability and should be available in May, 2003 or
later.
If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to e-mail
us.
Sincerely,
Latrice
National Consumer Affairs"
Here's the e-mail I sent them on January 23rd.
Good Afternoon,
I have an aftermarket XM Satellite radio currently installed in my 2000 Maxima SE. It has increased my enjoyment of the Maxima dramatically, to the point where I feel that I must have the option in all of my vehicles from now on.
I am interested in purchasing a Nissan Murano SE AWD (within the next 90 days) with the factory installed XM Satellite option. My dealer(s) are unable to provide me with any information as to availability, pricing, or operation of the unit (controls, antenna's, etc.).
Could you please let me know when this option will be available on the Murano? I want to purchase the Murano but may have to buy a competing vehicle if the XM radio will not be available soon enough to suit my needs.
Thank you for your time,
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Thank you for contacting Nissan North America, Inc. and allowing us the opportunity to be of assistance.
Your vehicle is Satellite Radio capable from an after market provider. However this after market option has not been factory pre-wired and will not integrate into the factory radio. A satellite radio unit purchased from retailers such as Circuit City, Best Buy, etc. will work in the vehicle, but it will not integrate into the factory radio. Consequently, the aforementioned unit will not integrate or operate with use of the "SAT" button the radio faceplate.
A target date of April 2003 has been set to launch the optional factory-install and dealer-install satellite radio programs for factory pre-wired vehicles. Please note that April is strictly a target date and subject to change if required.
Once again, thank you for allowing us to be of service.
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Not happy...not happy at all.
Got a quote faxed to me in minutes on a Murano SE AWD with Popular Package, Cold Package, Dynamic Control Package, Navigation System, Floor Mats, Splash Guards. "No-Haggle Price" Quote was 34778, base invoice is 34184, MSRP is 38063. Thats 596 over invoice and includes the Destination Charges, a savings of 3879 off MSRP. Unsure if that includes a $99 prep fee listed on the dealer web site for doc prep. Think I would decline to pay that anyway.
This leads me to believe that Nissan puts substantial "trunk money" for the dealers in each car...
Dealers in ATL are dreaming if they think I will pay MSRP or an additional "ADM" (Atlanta Dealer Markup). Interesting tidbit: (Unnamed large national dealer who sells Nissans in Greenville SC and the DC/Baltimore area) web site asks if you want to pick up the vehicle at another of their locations. I wonder if they would send a vehicle to their location in ATL for delivery?
Was also quoted for the Nissan Security Plus Gold Vehicle Protection Plan extended warranty:
84 months/100K miles 1499
72 months/100K miles 1299
60 months/60K miles 1049
There are two different deductible options: $50 and $0. Think this one is priced for the $50 deductible. Trying to get that point clarified.
Nissan includes 36 month/ 36K mile Bumper to Bumper warranty and 60 month/60K mile powertrain warranty with vehicle. Trying to decide if extended warranty is worth it. Doesn't cover the NAVSYS or BOSE system. I wonder when this has to be purchased and if it can happen at any time before the included 36M/36K warranty expires...
Salesman was quite professional, isn't that refreshing?
Anyone know:
Price differential between the Extended Warranty $50 deductible and the $0 deductible?
When you must purchase the Extended Warranty?
Any experiences with Nissan Extended Warranties?
Happy Motoring!
Thanks
As someone stated, Carmax is right up 1-85 about two hours from Atlanta, I am about 2.5 hours from Atlanta.
Good luck with your purchases. I went to Carmax back in the beginning of January (to the autoshow) and I stopped by Carmax. A Sunlit Copper SE was on the lot with all options.
I cannot afford the Murano, but I can afford the Altima, so I go look at Altimas all the time. After I graduate from college, you can bet you money that I will add a Murano SE in either Midnight Blue, Sheer Silver or Polished Pewter alongside my soon to be brought Altima 2.5S in Sonoma Sunset.
I'm in Chattanooga 1.5 hrs from Atlanta. Bought an SL 2wd with just about every option other then DVD for 33,200 excl. tax. I think the MSRP was 35,800 with the dealer added protection garbage the total price listed was 36,200. I also purchased the Nissan warranty for $1100 that covers everything to 75K and if I don't use it the full amount will be refunded. Dealer is Mountain View Nissan. BTW: have logged about 2500 miles on it and my wife loves it. Gas mileage averaging 20.5.