Nissan Murano 2005 and earlier

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  • stew24stew24 Member Posts: 28
    I went to make a deal on a Murano today. The SE AWD listed for $34717. I told the dealer that I hated the haggling phase, and that I had a proposal, pre-drafted, and presented them with it. Basically I wanted a certain amount for my trade in (I asked middle ground according to the NADA guide). I told him I'd be making a cash difference payment, for a selling price of $32,000 even. This would be a discount of about $2700 or just a bit over invoice. The dealer didn't have as much problem with what I wanted in trade allowance, but rather the idea of selling the car below MSRP! He tried to tell me how California dealers were selling them at a $5000 premium above MSRP. I told him I'd heard of that during the initial first few weeks, but I doubted it still existed, especially at that amount. I then told him that Carmax in South Carolina was selling Muranos at just a few hundred above invoice. He said, "No way". He said "Why would they sell them way below MSRP, when they can send them to California and get a $5K premium?". I simply reiterated what's advertised on their website. I told him, "Sorry we can't do business, but the next dealer will". I left him with a personal account of a "No way" deal that I made about 10 years ago. A local Honda dealer here in Little Rock, AR wanted me to finance $18,900 after my trade allowance on a new Prelude. After I refused the deal, he told me they were the largest dealer around, and that no one would be able to give me a better deal. Well, I went to Atlanta, GA 2 weeks later, dropped by a Honda dealership, traded in the same car as before, and financed $16500 after trade allowance, as opposed to the $18,900 that no one would be able to beat, according to the Little Rock dealer. Needless to say, he didn't like the story. My Murano seach continues ....
  • jxlxrjxlxr Member Posts: 61
    "JXLR, The fact is the dealer did not give me a great lease payment of $500, but $380. I'd like to ask how many folks in the New York City area have gotten a lease for a 2003 maxima GLE, with no money down and with no fees for less than $380 per month. Lease term is 36 months, with 12,000 miles per year."

    You could ask who got a deal like that if you move over to the Maxima forum. There are many similarities between Maxima and Murano, such as they both start with M and are 6 letters long. They also alternate vowels and consonants so I can see the confusion.

    $380 isn't bad though, good dealing....
  • ppowerppower Member Posts: 93
    them to a carmax in Calif. and sell them. It is against Franchise laws. This dealer I am sure knows this, unless you just taked to a salesman. But, I am sure the GM would know this.

    Just skip the greedy [non-permissible content removed] and find another 'real' dealer.

    Ppower
  • agarcia1agarcia1 Member Posts: 10
    I was driving a 2001 Lexus RX-300. Now, my wife drives this car. I hear what you are saying about the Murano having the best brake rating from 70-0. Then, my Murano definitely has a problem. I have already made a service appointment for this Friday with the dealer to correct the problem. I will report on what the dealer say.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    For the folks that hear a popping or rattle noise in the back. I was reading a review of the Murano in December (I think) and the reviewer said he could hear the rattle in the cargo cover. Has anyone checked that? I plan to get a Murano without the cover for that very reason, every cargo cover I've had rattled after a while. Annoying. (Just throw a blanket over your stuff, works the same way)

    And Stew... do you belong to a credit union? I called a broker (whose # I got from the credit union) who right over the phone quoted me about $700 over invoice. Piece of cake. (now I just need to pull together a good downpayment)
  • baataboombaataboom Member Posts: 23
    Thanks for the info on disabling the horn when locking via the key fob. In answer to your questions:

    If I have the light set on 'auto', I'd like them to turn off immediately when I turn the key off. I just assumed I get lots of "hey you left your lights on" and wanted to avoid that. Plus there's no value (to me) to have them remain on.

    I agree the tire pressure in the demo (48-50PSI) was way to high, as is the max for the tire 44. I would as you suggest plan on a low 2 mid 30s. But not knowing how the tire pressure sensor behaves (low threshold, high threshold ?), I was simply curious whether we (vs. they $$) have any adjustsments. Since we can vary the tire pressure, seems logical we'd want to vary any alarm thresholds.

    Also, looks like our purchase is on hold. Dealer can't find a gold AWD SL with everything but Tow (MSRP 37,131, cost: invoice + $700).
  • stew24stew24 Member Posts: 28
    Yeah, this saleman knew about the franchise laws, he mentioned it was illegal. Then he ran this crock by me about how he'd keep the money in the local economy rather than going to another state to buy a car, just to save a bit of money! ... Yeah, right !
      Cookie, I do belong to a Credit Union, and I called, but they said they hadn't joined any affiliations with any brokers as of yet.
  • stew24stew24 Member Posts: 28
    I'm hoping to buy an SE, and when I do I'm asking the dealer to swap out the wheels for those from an SL. I wonder if the dealer's going to be receptive of this ? Afterall, the SE's 6 spoke wheels are supposed to be the upgrade aren't they ? So, swapping down shouldn't be a problem should it ? The fact of the matter,(at least to me)is that the 5 spoke wheels of the SL just look "so" much better than the 6 spoke SE wheels. Do this, .. go to www.nissanusa.com and use the configurator to create an SE model Murano in your favorite color, then use the vehicle locator on the site to browse the inventories until you find an SL of the same color. The configurator will place both vehicles side by side, and check out the difference. I did a black SE and a black SL and the choice was obvious for me. I'd be looking for an SL, but my driving style can best be discribed as "aggressive", and I think the SE would please me most.
  • TefunkTefunk Member Posts: 8
    Hey Stew. Just wondering where in California you're located.
  • garen63garen63 Member Posts: 1
    The best price I was able to get in San Diego area is $1000 below MSRP. Any suggestions for better deal?
    Thanks
  • disla71disla71 Member Posts: 4
    just got(leased) midnight blue/charcoal SL in New York, dealer offered $450/mo to beat someone else's offer from NJ, than it turned out to be a third party offer have no gap insurance(they said it was required), no purchasing option, either.
    So, I leased it from Nissan and after 2 hours of fighting negotiated $480/mo with $1500 due at signing, that included extended 39mo warranty, purchasing option, gap insurance, taxes and first payment.
    NJ dealer could only offer $543/mo incl. tax.
  • disla71disla71 Member Posts: 4
    I heard it from the left rear side, sounds like two belt buckles were clicking against ea other, I secured them, but the noise persisted. If anyone got the reason(solution) for that, please reply! I think it's something not important enough to go back to the dealer for.
  • TefunkTefunk Member Posts: 8
    Hey Garen. Try contracting an Auto Broker. That's what I did. I found a broker that had no commitments whats so ever and charged a $300 fee after the deal was made. Another broker I went to said I was committed to buying through him once I told him to start looking so obviously I wasn't comfortable with him.

    So I talked to this broker and he was able to get around 2k off msrp not counting his fee. I wasn't too sure about going through a broker then so I decided to hold it off and see what I could do with some farther dealers from my area. But by seeing the brokers price I was able to get an idea of what Murano's were going for in my area and I used that as leverage in the negotiations with the dealerships. I was able to get a Murano $200 cheaper than what the broker offered and including his fee I saved $500 total from going through him.
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  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    If I have the light set on 'auto', I'd like them to turn off immediately when I turn the key off. I just assumed I get lots of "hey you left your lights on" and wanted to avoid that.
    You can certainly have the dealer disable the delay. The very rare occasion that somebody notices and makes that helpful comment, I smile at them, wait a moment, and then in my best Phil Hartman imitation I say "Yes! I! did!" It usually earns a grin back.

    Since we can vary the tire pressure, seems logical we'd want to vary any alarm thresholds.
    I can't say that I'd want to, and from the service manual, it doesn't look like you can. Two conditions can apparently trigger an alarm: too much of a spread between the highest psi and lowest psi, and any pressure below a fixed lower threshold (somewhere around 25-27psi). Note that too large a spread or too low tire(s) can also temporarily disable the VDC and AWD systems, because the different pressures will result in different wheel diameters, thus the wheels will be turning at different rates and confuse the computer.
  • lanpatlanpat Member Posts: 3
    I purchased my Murano in mid-Dec. When I saw the Bordeaux color I fell in love - even after seeing the cabernet. The solution came about when I told the salesman I really wanted leather seats. Mine were cloth and he suggested having leather installed after-market! I then had a whole new pallet of colors to choose from. I chose a color of grey/tan to match very closely the floor and dash where the speakers are. Now the seats look wonderful with little accents of the cabernet on the head-rest base. Admittedly, the front dash, steering wheel and parts of the door are still cabernet, but it's a WHOLE lot better and I can live with it. After-market price was $1799, about $500 more than optional leather. It took 1 1/2 days to install.
    One more thing: I have re-named the color of the exterior:CocoEggplant!
  • rich6664rich6664 Member Posts: 2
    I was just wondering if anyone had this problem. I just picked up a Black/Black Murano SL AWD on Saturday. SInce then, I have experienced a tremendous amount of rattles and squeaks. The rattles are comming from the front driver's side and rear passanger's side windows (if I put my fingers in-between the rubber door molding and the door frame while it is closed the rattle appears to go away). Also, I have a lot of squeaks coming from the glove compartment/passanger's dash area. Nothing in the glove compartment to cause this. I also have the popping sound in the rear of the vehicle when I go over a medium size bump. Any suggestions/cauises or fixes? It is driving me nuts. I really want to like this vehicle!!!
  • TefunkTefunk Member Posts: 8
    Yup seems like quite a few people are having these rattles. I have them coming from the rear also the passengear dash area too. Looks to be a common problem for many Muranos. Doesn't seem like there's anything we can do short of going to the dealer.
  • pathfinder13pathfinder13 Member Posts: 110
    but also Pathfinder has lot of dash rattling. Well it's common in Nissan. Can't do anything.
  • mur4memur4me Member Posts: 1
    i am debating between the Murano and the RX300. I am very interested in the Murano just abit worried about the CVT being new and the rattles that I hear all of you talking about. I have a 1995 maxima and the car is very tight..not one rattle.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Excellent solution. I bet that looks great.

    If you get a chance, post some photos, I'd love to see it!
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    Do you have any concerns about how the seat mounted side air bags might function (or not?) with aftermarket leather interior?
  • usarmytttusarmyttt Member Posts: 21
    I have a local dealer who is willing to sell me a SL AWD with all options minus Nav at $300.00 over invoice. I am showing the price to be $600.00 over invoice with the other $300.00 being advertising fee...my question is, can I, or should I not pay this fee. I still show this would be $2828.00 under MSRP, does this sound good????
  • ppowerppower Member Posts: 93
    see any of their advertising and did all your own research on it. So, their advertising had no influence on your purchase and are not interested in paying for it...:)

    Ppower
  • nissanlove2001nissanlove2001 Member Posts: 11
    about the rattle noise in the rear, i found out what it might be. i know for sure that it's not the cargo screen because i toook it out and the noise continued. but it's either the seat back floor lever things or that little plastic cover on the inside of the rear hatch, there is that little plasctic cover. tap on it and it makes a really annoying rattle. well i hope that helps.
  • TefunkTefunk Member Posts: 8
    Great that you found out some possibilities to get rid of the rattle. What exactly do you mean seat back floor lever? Can you describe where that might be? Thanks, I'll go check these 2 things out later.
  • workinclassdogworkinclassdog Member Posts: 20
    I'm looking at getting an Midnight Blue SL with Charcoal Lthr, and full options incl NAV

    With the NAV equipped, does the color display take the place of the info center screen info? (speed, time, etc) or does the NAV system show that info on the color screen when you're not using Navigation?

    Thx
  • dlundgrendlundgren Member Posts: 17
    Drove an SL AWD yesterday in Kingston, NY. My 2002 Pathfinder was in for an oil change so I jumped in a new blue Murano with black (I think) leather seats. Here's a few comments:

    Really easy to get in and out of, as stupid as that may sound. You still sit up fairly high - probably not as high as my PF, but enough to see over cars ahead of you. Immediately comfortable, with an enormous flat area on top of the very low dash stretching out to the bottom of the windshield.

    The thing handles out of this world. Prior to my Pathfinder, I had owned a series of Accord V6 coupes but got tired of no room for anything and no four wheel drive. I drove the Murano over a nice winding country road and up a VERY steep hill - too bad we have no new snow - and was impressed way beyond my expectations. Great driving position as well, with the movable pedals. A nice tossable car, lots of fun on corners.

    Power is excellent, transmission feels a little different at first but gets the car going right away.

    Seems like it's going to require an engineering degree to figure out that center panel with the heat, AC, stereo and all the other stuff. Strangely enough for an SUV it has an MPG display which I expect would scare the hell out of you, based on my Pathfinder's experience! This is usually a number you don't want to know.

    A lot of room in all the seats, bigger rear seat area than the Pathfinder. Not so much room behind the back seats, not such a big back opening. I have put a LOT of large or bulky boxes, skiis, kayak stuff, amplifiers, etc in my Pathfinder; not as much is going to fit in one of these, but it's still roomy.

    All in all, this is a very impressive car. I'd love to go play with one next time we get a decent snowfall and see how it behaves. It's certainly not as rough and tough as a PF, but it impressed the hell out of me.

    For what it's worth.

    Dave
  • jattjatt Member Posts: 5
    Hi Stew, you may want to check out page 27, message #527 & #528, there is a little something there about what the dealer told me about the Wheels as well as Linzybels reply. They said they'd switch them for 1 hours labour charge. Can the valves be switched too? I don't know, but if you're paying for the tire pressure monitoring system on the SE anyways, you might as well try to use it with the SL rims.
  • disla71disla71 Member Posts: 4
    I took my rare cargo cover out and the rattles stopped, so that must be the reason for mine.
    It's probably from the spot where the springs (that help you to put that cargo cover in place) are located. There's also a squeaking noise(a very minor one) especially when the cover is on and stretched over the whole trunk, but it's not that bad. I guess Nissan could really take better care of fastening plastics in the cargo area.
    but I have to admit that EVERYTHING else in this car makes me soo happy, that I can totally live with those tiny drawbacks, but will show them to the dealer anyway :)
    but THE RIDE and HANDLING are simply perfect!! Enjoy it, guys!
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    My SL AWD is at the dealer for its first service, to fix popping plastic and the CD player.

    CD player simply skips on 75% of the discs I've played; I anticipate they'll simply replace it.

    The dealer can hear the popping/knocking sound but hadn't located the source in the first hour, so they gave me a ride back to my workplace until they track it down. From my own testing, I removed all of the following:
    (1) the left and right side cargo lids
    (2) the thin plastic tray above the spare tire
    (3) the cargo cover
    (4) the Masonite/wood thing above the spare tire
    (5) the subwoofer
    (6) the spare tire
    (7) the jack
    (8) the tow hook
    (9) the lugwrench
    (10) the cargo net
    I tried it with the seats upright, reclined, and folded, with no change. Over medium bumps, there is a hollow plastic popping/knocking sound, like something loose hitting a plastic panel.

    Suspicious areas include both the left and right cargo compartments, because they are large plastic bins that make about the right sound when you strike them with your fingernail. Perhaps they are supposed to be anchored to the frame and aren't. I agree another suspicious area is the panel close to the CHMSL on the inside of the hatch door, although my earlier speculation about it being an access panel to replace the bulb may be in error because somebody said the CHMSL is actually made of LEDs and therefore wouldn't need replacing in the life of the vehicle.

    I had my wife drive and I tried holding various things in the back of the cabin, and it didn't appear to be any of the cargo hooks or the seat handles.

    This morning, it sounded like the popping/knocking sound might be originating near the bottom of the rear passenger doors, or near the seat hinge. I'm wondering if it might be the cable releases that run from the handles in the rear corners of the cabin forward to the seat hinges.
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    Really easy to get in and out of, as stupid as that may sound. You still sit up fairly high
    Doesn't sound stupid here, it was the primary reason to replace my hatchback with an SUV. Recent back surgery has made it very painful to get down into a low seat, or climb up into a truck. The 2003 Murano was one of six vehicles that was exactly the right height for me, and I tried just about everything manufactured since 2000.

    All in all, this is a very impressive car.
    I agree with all you said, even with some minor quibbles I'm very happy with mine. It handles very much like my hatchback did, with even more power. I just have to remember that I'm higher up, so the center of gravity is taller and it never looks like I'm going as fast as I really am (being used to the hatchback, and conditioned to the illusion of going fast because you're so low).
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    Unfortunately, advertising fees are usually a legitimate expense, sort of like destination charges and documentation fees, so you probably can't negotiate those away explicitly. You would be better off negotiating your base price down further, as you know in advance that those fees get tacked on later anyway.

    I know that some states set limits on documentation fees, but I don't know of any that limit destination charges or advertising fees.
  • TefunkTefunk Member Posts: 8
    From Motor Week's website:

    MotorWeek #2222
    With Host John Davis
    PBS Broadcast Window Begins January 31, 2003

    Roadtest of the 2003 Lamborghini Murceilago
    Roadtest of the 2003 Nissan Murano
    Goss' Garage: Vital Fluids
    FYI: Jaguar Tribute to Style
    Car Keys: Lexus RX330, VW Touareg & Mitsubishi Endeavor

    http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/stationlist.shtml
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    Dealer says they need to replace the audio unit, but don't have one in stock so they're ordering it. And after 8 hours on the rack and road tests, they still can't find the source of the popping/knocking noise and they are going to follow-up with Nissan engineering. They have assured me that it remains safe to drive. So, the net result is today was an 8-hour carwash! ;-)
  • bspzbspz Member Posts: 35
    If you have Speed TV they will run MotorWeek at 7 AM, 7PM and Midnight on the 31st. It doesn't give the episode number, but I assume it will be the one with the Murano. Can't wait!!
  • nissanlove2001nissanlove2001 Member Posts: 11
    the rear seat back floor levelers are the things in the rear cargo compartment that a up against the backs of the seats. pull them back a little and let them hit the back of the seat and it almost sounds like that's the noise. check it out.
  • agarcia1agarcia1 Member Posts: 10
    My "Murano SE AWD, with navigation" was driven today by the dealer's suspension expert He couldn't duplicate the fishtail effect when braking hard at 60 mph. He said the brakes are OK, and there is nothing he can do about it.
    Well, I got a friend of mine to test it, and at the same time ask me questions about how I applied the brakes when I had the problem. I told him that when I had the occurrence, I got scared and pumped the brakes. My friend told me that vehicles with ABS brakes shouldn't be pumped. The correct way is to depress the brake pedal hard all the way until you arrive at a full stop. I tried it three times and the vehicle stopped fine. So it appears that I was at fault, and the vehicle was fine. Finally, everything else on this vehicle is great, and I am extremely satisfied with it.
  • dogface3dogface3 Member Posts: 2
    I have a se and the rattles are very bad. can not seem to locate just where they are coming from. hope somebody comes up with a solution.
  • motormannmotormann Member Posts: 20
    As a former RX300 owner and now current Murano SL AWD owner, I say go for the Murano! We loved our RX, but the Murano is far, far more fun to drive!

    Workinclassdog, the NAV will display the trip computer functions, but you have to push the "TRIP" button on the center console to bring it up. Once there, you can toggle through 2 trip computers, a maintenance screen, and the screen for the tire pressure monitoring.

    Aside from that, I am very impressed with the usefulness of the NAV system. I kind of thought it to be an "expensive toy" when we bought the car, but we have used the map and guidance functions extensively over the six weeks we have owned it. The Wife, who is a non-techie, absolutely loves it! Especially love the "birds eye" view - not all NAV systems have that.

    No rattles to report so far, although we had 44 psi tire pressures in 20 degree weather when we picked up the car!
  • avery1avery1 Member Posts: 373
    I have a '99 RX and am interested in more info on how it compares to the Murano. Are there things you miss that from the RX?
  • skillet1skillet1 Member Posts: 10
    Traded in my 2001 Outback for a fully loaded w/ nav. Murano AWD SL. The dealer had to do a dealer trade ( so I could get my color choice of polished pewter w/ cafe latte). They still have to go get it so I won't take delivery till Wednesday. I really struggled with my color choice. I wanted the sunlit copper but did not like the charcoal leather. Thought the cabernet was alright but didn't think I would like it as much a couple years from now. As for the price, I got about $2100 off MSRP but was thrilled to death with the trade-in on my outback. Probably could have held out for a better deal down the road but just couldn't pass up the trade-in. I was getting trade-in quotes a thousand less a year ago when I was shopping around but couldn't decide what I wanted. I almost bought a 4-runner but I'd had 3 previously and just decided I wanted something different. I gotta tell you all, everybodys info on here really helped alot. Answered alot of my questions and concerns. I went on 2 test drives and the 2nd one this morning was even better then the 1st. Has anybody bought the extended warranty yet ? What can I expect to pay for it ?? I normally dont buy extended warranty's but there is so much complicated and expensive stuff that can break on the Murano I'm really thinkin' about buying one. I also tried to get the chrome wheels but couldn't get any yet. The dealer said something to the effect that the few that are'will come out are reserved for VP's. What the heck does that mean? Anyway , other then that odd comment the dealer was refreshingly no-pressure and actually answered most questions. No hassles or games. They are a new dealer in town, maybe they want to start off on the right foot. Went to 2 other dealers in the area. They both indicated they wanted sticker price but would work for me a little. Hmmm...didn't pursue, One wouldn't even let me take a test drive and they has 7-8 on the lot. Anyway thanks for all the input, will let you all know how the delivery went and see if they keep treating me nice.
  • lanpatlanpat Member Posts: 3
    I now have photos to share of my new Classic Soft Trim grey leather interior in my Bordeaux Murano.
    I downloaded them to the ofoto site but can't figure out how to get them on this site.
    Thanks for your help!
  • motormannmotormann Member Posts: 20
    Avery, we had a 1999 RX300 as well. The only thing I miss from the RX is that the interior is a bit "plusher" - plastics and fit and finish were just a wee bit better, and that we probably paid too much for the Murano (we got it in early December when they were first rolled out, and we only got $1000 off the MSRP). Surprisingly, however, the Murano has more options than our RX did (the 99 RX wasn't available with NAV, and didn't even have a compass!), and as I said before is MUCH more fun to drive. Overall, we don't miss the RX - glad we got the Murano.

    Some may suggest that we have lost the "panache" that the Lexus name brings, but we aren't much into that.

    Go for the Murano - you won't regret it.
  • al63017al63017 Member Posts: 149
    This is probably early --but looks like the Murano build quality is pretty good. Have not seen much on this board but squeaks and rattles. If this was a new Explorer or Trail Blazer there would probably be several lemon buy backs by now. Just kidding I know people who have not had a problem with their Explorer and Trail Blazer but there does seem to be more problems per 100 than many Japanese built cars or Japanese ownership type cars yet built in America.
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  • bkprattbkpratt Member Posts: 16
    May be getting the Murano SL AWD, Premium, Leather & Sun Roof as early as tomorrow (Monday). Is the Dynamic Control Package ($749) needed on this car? And the Sun Roof Wind Deflector? Thanks.
  • jxlxrjxlxr Member Posts: 61
    I went through the same question when buying and ending up not getting it. I probably would have had the dealer had the car with the color combo I wanted and that option. I liked the tire pressure monitor and the VDC seemed interesting but the cost kept getting in the way. Do you really need traction control in an AWD car? If you live in a place where you might end up taking advantage of the options in that package then it is worth it. Otherwise it is hard to justify.

    Forget the wind deflector. I had one on my last car and all it does is block half of the sunroof when open. Besides it ruins the look of the car.
  • bkprattbkpratt Member Posts: 16
    Thanks jxlxr. I live about 70 miles north of NYC and we've had some bad weather this winter. Curious if the DC package would help in general traction/cornering etc. I'm used to a small sports car, so I don't know what's appropriate for the much larger Murano.

    I don't really want the sunroof, but apparently it's a requirement when getting the leather package. The dealer offered to have them put in custom leather, but I feel I know what I'm getting with the Nissan leather instead.

    Okay, another question. Are heated seats worth the money when getting leather in a cold climate. (Never had leather seats either.) Thanks.
  • dweebedweebe Member Posts: 3
    1) A question to current Murano owners. How has your CVT been performing in extremely cold weather conditions? Looking for response from people who have had sub-zero (Fahrenheit) temps.

    2)Did Nissan ship a lot less Muranos to the middle part of the country and most stock to the coasts? Most of the posts on this forum and freshalloy.com seem to come from East or West coast people. I know those areas are big into foreign cars, but I think the balance is out of whack. In St. Louis I have yet to see one on the road and the dealerships in the metro area have a total of 7 in stock.
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