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You could ask who got a deal like that if you move over to the Maxima forum. There are many similarities between Maxima and Murano, such as they both start with M and are 6 letters long. They also alternate vowels and consonants so I can see the confusion.
$380 isn't bad though, good dealing....
Just skip the greedy [non-permissible content removed] and find another 'real' dealer.
Ppower
And Stew... do you belong to a credit union? I called a broker (whose # I got from the credit union) who right over the phone quoted me about $700 over invoice. Piece of cake. (now I just need to pull together a good downpayment)
If I have the light set on 'auto', I'd like them to turn off immediately when I turn the key off. I just assumed I get lots of "hey you left your lights on" and wanted to avoid that. Plus there's no value (to me) to have them remain on.
I agree the tire pressure in the demo (48-50PSI) was way to high, as is the max for the tire 44. I would as you suggest plan on a low 2 mid 30s. But not knowing how the tire pressure sensor behaves (low threshold, high threshold ?), I was simply curious whether we (vs. they $$) have any adjustsments. Since we can vary the tire pressure, seems logical we'd want to vary any alarm thresholds.
Also, looks like our purchase is on hold. Dealer can't find a gold AWD SL with everything but Tow (MSRP 37,131, cost: invoice + $700).
Cookie, I do belong to a Credit Union, and I called, but they said they hadn't joined any affiliations with any brokers as of yet.
Thanks
So, I leased it from Nissan and after 2 hours of fighting negotiated $480/mo with $1500 due at signing, that included extended 39mo warranty, purchasing option, gap insurance, taxes and first payment.
NJ dealer could only offer $543/mo incl. tax.
So I talked to this broker and he was able to get around 2k off msrp not counting his fee. I wasn't too sure about going through a broker then so I decided to hold it off and see what I could do with some farther dealers from my area. But by seeing the brokers price I was able to get an idea of what Murano's were going for in my area and I used that as leverage in the negotiations with the dealerships. I was able to get a Murano $200 cheaper than what the broker offered and including his fee I saved $500 total from going through him.
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You can certainly have the dealer disable the delay. The very rare occasion that somebody notices and makes that helpful comment, I smile at them, wait a moment, and then in my best Phil Hartman imitation I say "Yes! I! did!" It usually earns a grin back.
Since we can vary the tire pressure, seems logical we'd want to vary any alarm thresholds.
I can't say that I'd want to, and from the service manual, it doesn't look like you can. Two conditions can apparently trigger an alarm: too much of a spread between the highest psi and lowest psi, and any pressure below a fixed lower threshold (somewhere around 25-27psi). Note that too large a spread or too low tire(s) can also temporarily disable the VDC and AWD systems, because the different pressures will result in different wheel diameters, thus the wheels will be turning at different rates and confuse the computer.
One more thing: I have re-named the color of the exterior:CocoEggplant!
If you get a chance, post some photos, I'd love to see it!
Ppower
With the NAV equipped, does the color display take the place of the info center screen info? (speed, time, etc) or does the NAV system show that info on the color screen when you're not using Navigation?
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Really easy to get in and out of, as stupid as that may sound. You still sit up fairly high - probably not as high as my PF, but enough to see over cars ahead of you. Immediately comfortable, with an enormous flat area on top of the very low dash stretching out to the bottom of the windshield.
The thing handles out of this world. Prior to my Pathfinder, I had owned a series of Accord V6 coupes but got tired of no room for anything and no four wheel drive. I drove the Murano over a nice winding country road and up a VERY steep hill - too bad we have no new snow - and was impressed way beyond my expectations. Great driving position as well, with the movable pedals. A nice tossable car, lots of fun on corners.
Power is excellent, transmission feels a little different at first but gets the car going right away.
Seems like it's going to require an engineering degree to figure out that center panel with the heat, AC, stereo and all the other stuff. Strangely enough for an SUV it has an MPG display which I expect would scare the hell out of you, based on my Pathfinder's experience! This is usually a number you don't want to know.
A lot of room in all the seats, bigger rear seat area than the Pathfinder. Not so much room behind the back seats, not such a big back opening. I have put a LOT of large or bulky boxes, skiis, kayak stuff, amplifiers, etc in my Pathfinder; not as much is going to fit in one of these, but it's still roomy.
All in all, this is a very impressive car. I'd love to go play with one next time we get a decent snowfall and see how it behaves. It's certainly not as rough and tough as a PF, but it impressed the hell out of me.
For what it's worth.
Dave
It's probably from the spot where the springs (that help you to put that cargo cover in place) are located. There's also a squeaking noise(a very minor one) especially when the cover is on and stretched over the whole trunk, but it's not that bad. I guess Nissan could really take better care of fastening plastics in the cargo area.
but I have to admit that EVERYTHING else in this car makes me soo happy, that I can totally live with those tiny drawbacks, but will show them to the dealer anyway
but THE RIDE and HANDLING are simply perfect!! Enjoy it, guys!
CD player simply skips on 75% of the discs I've played; I anticipate they'll simply replace it.
The dealer can hear the popping/knocking sound but hadn't located the source in the first hour, so they gave me a ride back to my workplace until they track it down. From my own testing, I removed all of the following:
(1) the left and right side cargo lids
(2) the thin plastic tray above the spare tire
(3) the cargo cover
(4) the Masonite/wood thing above the spare tire
(5) the subwoofer
(6) the spare tire
(7) the jack
(8) the tow hook
(9) the lugwrench
(10) the cargo net
I tried it with the seats upright, reclined, and folded, with no change. Over medium bumps, there is a hollow plastic popping/knocking sound, like something loose hitting a plastic panel.
Suspicious areas include both the left and right cargo compartments, because they are large plastic bins that make about the right sound when you strike them with your fingernail. Perhaps they are supposed to be anchored to the frame and aren't. I agree another suspicious area is the panel close to the CHMSL on the inside of the hatch door, although my earlier speculation about it being an access panel to replace the bulb may be in error because somebody said the CHMSL is actually made of LEDs and therefore wouldn't need replacing in the life of the vehicle.
I had my wife drive and I tried holding various things in the back of the cabin, and it didn't appear to be any of the cargo hooks or the seat handles.
This morning, it sounded like the popping/knocking sound might be originating near the bottom of the rear passenger doors, or near the seat hinge. I'm wondering if it might be the cable releases that run from the handles in the rear corners of the cabin forward to the seat hinges.
Doesn't sound stupid here, it was the primary reason to replace my hatchback with an SUV. Recent back surgery has made it very painful to get down into a low seat, or climb up into a truck. The 2003 Murano was one of six vehicles that was exactly the right height for me, and I tried just about everything manufactured since 2000.
All in all, this is a very impressive car.
I agree with all you said, even with some minor quibbles I'm very happy with mine. It handles very much like my hatchback did, with even more power. I just have to remember that I'm higher up, so the center of gravity is taller and it never looks like I'm going as fast as I really am (being used to the hatchback, and conditioned to the illusion of going fast because you're so low).
I know that some states set limits on documentation fees, but I don't know of any that limit destination charges or advertising fees.
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Well, I got a friend of mine to test it, and at the same time ask me questions about how I applied the brakes when I had the problem. I told him that when I had the occurrence, I got scared and pumped the brakes. My friend told me that vehicles with ABS brakes shouldn't be pumped. The correct way is to depress the brake pedal hard all the way until you arrive at a full stop. I tried it three times and the vehicle stopped fine. So it appears that I was at fault, and the vehicle was fine. Finally, everything else on this vehicle is great, and I am extremely satisfied with it.
Workinclassdog, the NAV will display the trip computer functions, but you have to push the "TRIP" button on the center console to bring it up. Once there, you can toggle through 2 trip computers, a maintenance screen, and the screen for the tire pressure monitoring.
Aside from that, I am very impressed with the usefulness of the NAV system. I kind of thought it to be an "expensive toy" when we bought the car, but we have used the map and guidance functions extensively over the six weeks we have owned it. The Wife, who is a non-techie, absolutely loves it! Especially love the "birds eye" view - not all NAV systems have that.
No rattles to report so far, although we had 44 psi tire pressures in 20 degree weather when we picked up the car!
I downloaded them to the ofoto site but can't figure out how to get them on this site.
Thanks for your help!
Some may suggest that we have lost the "panache" that the Lexus name brings, but we aren't much into that.
Go for the Murano - you won't regret it.
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Forget the wind deflector. I had one on my last car and all it does is block half of the sunroof when open. Besides it ruins the look of the car.
I don't really want the sunroof, but apparently it's a requirement when getting the leather package. The dealer offered to have them put in custom leather, but I feel I know what I'm getting with the Nissan leather instead.
Okay, another question. Are heated seats worth the money when getting leather in a cold climate. (Never had leather seats either.) Thanks.
2)Did Nissan ship a lot less Muranos to the middle part of the country and most stock to the coasts? Most of the posts on this forum and freshalloy.com seem to come from East or West coast people. I know those areas are big into foreign cars, but I think the balance is out of whack. In St. Louis I have yet to see one on the road and the dealerships in the metro area have a total of 7 in stock.