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Pretty easy actually and it seems to be reasonably accurate although I have found that the different dealers seem to be "committed" to maintaining their list at varying levels.
I would call and make sure the vehicle you want is still available in their inventory before you make a trip of any distance.
Carmax.com maintains a similar inventory of new Nissan vehciles at their Washington DC store on line and they also show the difference between the MSRP and their selling price. Usefull starting point for local negotiations.
most of the time, there is nothing wrong with a vehicle with that kind of mileage. if it has NAV, then you might be in the $27k ballpark.
Will you be pleased, there is no pleasing everyone. Some have complained so much about rattles they already sold theirs. Others have no problems and love'em. I'm more towards the love it. It's an awsome vehicle (It's a Z with a trunk).
Premium gas, no you don't 'have to' but you will get better performance.
Blink spot, not bad get those stick on curved little mirrors. Have them on all my cars.
Drawbacks, yes, you will drive this car more than your previous vehicle, and as other have said, you'll have a permanent grin on your face.
When you lower the rear seat windows all the way it sounds like a helicopter is inside the cabin. WE hall 2 Labradors in the very back so good air is a must but don't really enjoy head throb too very much.
I did manage to turn off the lights the other night at 35 MPH while hitting the joystick to go to the high beams.
The good now. FUN FUN FUN. handling is terrific with the Dynamic control. Superb stereo, excellent leather,electronic dash board is nice. The headlights are just great at night especially in our deer infested area.
Boy I hope the mileage gets better. I drive my Toy Avalon at 80 MPH and get 25 MPG. Makes me wonder if I should have bought the TOY HIghlander which is generic looking and sways considerably in turns compared to the almost sportscar feel of the Murano.
Never get under 20 MPG, avg 21. 80% hwy @ 80 MPH
I also have my two dogs (Vizslas) in the back.
Rear windows down, wind buffering, happens in a lot of cars, crack you front windows a bit.
Did your car take a while to "Break in" and get that kind of mileage that I expected ?
thanks
also, nissan, ford, honda, toyota, etc...will not do anything for poor mileage unless the engine light is on. the numbers on the window sticker are EPA 'ESTIMATES' that the government requires manufacturers to post on their vehicles. they are not manufacturer numbers.
I'm just about to go over 6,000 miles on my Murano (end-of-year 2003 SL AWD, cloth seats, Bose, sunroof) and, with the minor exception of the gas mileage, I'm truly in love with this beastie! I just got back from an 1,100-mile trip that I considered her 'sea trials' and by far she's the most comfortable vehicle I've ever owned.
When I drive around town at home (80% highway/20% city) I get about 19 - 19.5 mpg. On this trip I noticed speed made a huge difference. At 80 mph she only gave me 17.5 mpg, but at 72 - 73 mph that jumped to 19 mpg. There was some wind to contend with on each half of the trip so I know that made some difference. Overall, I was hoping for better 100% highway mileage, and maybe she'd give me that if I could keep my foot out of her rear.
How many of you have spooled yours up to 100+ mph? I just had to (heh) and I was VERY impressed with the way she hunkered down and handled.
I had a passenger in the back for the nine-hour return trip and he told me that was the most comfortable long trip he's EVER taken. And I didn't even ask him. Kudos to the Nissan engineers!
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I started watching my mileage at around 1500 miles. Now I am using the trip computer and even reset it once.
I'm planning on using Mobil 1 thei summer and an expecting even better mileage say 22 I would hope.
Any guidance from anyone out there...should I purchase the extended warranty now, what about putting on a paint sealant, what type of gas (mileage is a worry for me)? Is there anything else I might need to know. Thanks to all.
Good luck and enjoy the ride!
for the first 1200 miles:
1) dont take the RPMs over 4000
2) dont accelerate at full throttle at any speed
3) avoid hard braking as much as possible
4) dont tow a trailer for the first 500 miles
just dont use cruise control for 1000 miles...at least not for more than a minute or two at a time.
Alway I kept my dealer searching and found one in the next state MA.
I'm now at 16,000 miles and getting 20-21 in the city and 21-22 on the highway. I keep the tires inflated to about 36lbs cold pressure and I also switched over to Mobile One 5-30 and 10,000 miles.
I'm very happay with the mileage I'm getting now considering the size, shape and weight of the vehicle.
I'm a bit dissapointed that I can't get better highway mileage but the Murano just isn't slippery enough to get above 22 or so at 80 mph.
The best mileage is at about 45 where I see in the 25-27 mpg range but you can't drive very far at that speed.
Keep in mind tha every time you stop and start again is the worst mileage as it takes a lot of gas to get the beast moving, but when it's moving, it's pretty efficient.
I've actually modified slightly my normal route to work to one that has less traffic lights for this very reason.
The Murano also uses significantly more gas when it's engine and CVT are cold than when warmed up so if you have lots of short trips (<5 miles), your mileage is not going to be great.
Our Toyota has it and it is very good, really helps you from swinging out the rear end.
Enjoy the ride!
Keep us posted on how it works out for you, especially from a problems/reliability standpoint. The Murano is on my very short list for a fall purchase for my wife and I love hearing how they're working out for people. Kind of narrowed down to Murano or Eddie Bauer V8 Exploder. Both have pluses and minuses. The Ford has good discounts, better for towing, may even be better on safety. The MO is better gas mileage, styling, etc. Anybody got anything to chime in on which they'd go with? Probably MO since it's a MO board. I'm in MN and I've heard bad things about the MO's ability to keep a windshield clear of ice and snow and debris, plus snow tires on 18"ers could be big ging a ling!!
Safe. hmmm U-haul won't even rent you a trailer if you have an Explorer.
I had already narrowed it down to an SUV for the flexibility of the vehicle (and I needed more towing capacity than the 1,000 lbs my 00 Maxima SE could handle).
I couldn't make the move to a domestic, even though I tried them all. The gas mileage was just terrible and the reliablility and crash test scores were abysmal. While the reliablility seeming to be getting better all the time, is still now where near the Hondas-Nissans-Toyotas.
Drove the Highlander, no soul, nothing but tan colored interior available in the 03's with XLE V6, so it was off the list.
Drove the Pilot and thought, now this isn't a bad compromise. Actually placed an order out with the local Honda dealer, told it would be 2-3 months to get my preferred color combination (Silver Exterior/Black Interior).
While I was waiting for the Pilot, the Murano was announced. After some research, I decided to cancel the Pilot order and wait for the Murano.
I now have the 03 SE AWD with all the options including NAV and Nissan's XM Satellite radio. I was delivered July 29,2003 and now has about 17,000 miles on it.
Mileage has now consistently been 19-20 mixed driving and 21-22 highway with great acceleration and handling (for a 4,000 lb vehicle) using 93 octane premium gas.
I think if you really drive all of the vehicles, you'll come to the same conclusion that a lot of us have, the Murano offers an excellent blend of performance, flexibility, and style for a very reasonable price.
The safety features are very nice including side curtain air bags and side seat air bags, available traction control and dynamic stability control, good crash test scores, and very few if any, significant first year build issues.
The CVT was originally my major concern with the relatively high horsepower of the 3.5 liter VQ engine, but so far, has performed flawlessly and certainly achieves better gas mileage than a comparable automatic transmission could.
This was my third first year build Nissan 95 Maxima, 00 Maxima, and 03 Murano. All three have been excellent overall, and all three were built/assembled in Japan.
The Murano windshield is hard to clear (with an ice scraper) because of it's size (like all SUV's?) but I have had no problems at all with the defroster or wipers keeping things clear during snow/ice. The rear wiper isn't great, (kind of small in my opinion) but seemed to serve it's general purpose.
The automatic climate control won't run effectively until the vehicle is warmed up.
I got in the habit of starting mine and letting it warm up for about 3-4 minutes before I drove off.
The one flaw in the design is that the wipers are very difficult to raise when the car is shut off. They kind of hide below the hood line and you have to be very careful lifting them out to clean under them.
I lived in Minneapolis (well Blaine)for three years and I don't know if I'd buy the Murano if I didn't have a garage to keep it in at night.
Just too much glass to clear (IMO).
The AWD version gets around fine in snow on the standard Goodyear tires but I personally plan on getting a set of dedicated snow tires for next winter. I like the high level of confidence that dedicated snow tires provide and also the extra life I get out of my regular tires/wheels.
I only noticed the AWD functioning under 18mph when getting started up. Otherwise I never noticed it working.
I have 17,000 miles on mine and took delivery on July 29th.
Thanks,
Brian
A good place to start is to use this web site to research the invoice price for the vehicle you want. That gives you a starting place for negotiations. Some people have been able to get below-invoice pricing (usually on last year's model after the new ones came out, but not always). I offered my dealership $299 over invoice plus tax, title, and license, NO FEES. I might have been able to get a better deal, but the vehicle I wanted wasn't anywhere to be found within 350 miles so the dealer had to get one off the next boat in. My sales people had to work hard to find a car for me so I felt like they'd earned some commission.
Mine hasn't come in yet (supposed to be in a week from today!), so I haven't signed on the dotted line but I'm hoping I don't have to fight when them over silly fees.
You may be able to do better. Depends on how easy it is to find the vehicle you want and how much they want to sell it. End of the month is next week and Nissan has good financing (.9% for 3 years or less, 2.9% for up to 60 months) so you may be able to get a sweet deal.
Go to the NissanUSA site, configure the vehicle with the options you want, and check dealer inventory near you to see if what you want is in stock.
#2: find invoice pricing on the one you want WITH THE SAME EQUIPMENT, and add whatever you consider to be a fair profit. most people i deal with consider 2-3% to be fair.
#3: be at least a little flexible. if they get at least reasonably close, then save yourself the aggravation and get the new car.
the less hassle you create for yourself, the happier you will be in the long run with your purchase. many will disagree with me, but if you research JD Power, they will back me up.
im not saying to pay MSRP, but dont create more stress than necessary either.