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Thank you for thoughts on the Subaru bike show.
Your points are well taken. However, consider this: Subaru produces and promotes the use of a product that kills 40,000 Americans every year and injures and maims thousands more. Subaru's products release tons of polluting gases and chemicals into our atmoshpere and water. Subaru's products are responsible for foreign oil dependency. Subaru's products are responsible for urban sprawl which degrades the quality of life in our cities and towns. Subaru externalizes all these costs and takes advantage of massive taxpayer subsidies for roads, oil, and damage done by their products. Someone needs to call attention to their phony greenwashing strategy of promoting bicycles for sport. That is what Critical Mass is doing.
Jim Redd
Webmaster
chicagocriticalmass.org
And my response:
Jim,
Your statistics are all misleading. Subaru products don't kill 40,000 Americans, autos and trucks in general do. Yes Subaru products pollute but less than those of most other auto manufacturers. Same goes for oil dependence. And I hardly see how you can blame urban sprawl on the automobile. Yes it facilitates it but the responsibility for urban sprawl lies with society as a whole. Also, why blame Subaru (or any other manufacturer) for product subsidies when it's our elected officials who make the laws and set the tax rates.
You can rail against the automobile all you want but that's about as useful as attempting to plug a gaping hole in the Hoover dam with your finger. To me it makes far more sense to direct your energy to encouraging more people to bike in general and thereby gradually change society’s mindset about both bikes and cars. In any case, why target a relatively environmentally friendly car company like Subaru that is sponsoring your bike show when there are much bigger fish to fry? Better to go after Hummers, Excursions, Escalades and other ridiculously big and wasteful vehicles.
-Frank P.
Bob
-Frank P.
-Frank P.
Bikers who ride two and three abreast on a divided highway with a posted speed limit of 50 miles per hour and refuse to give way to following traffic are asking to be run over.
And by the way I am not an anti biker Rita and both love to ride when I feel well enough to get out on the bike.
Cheers Pat.
~c
Those crazies might actually hurt the popularity of bikes by alienating folks like me. Kooks!
-juice
Craig
Can't even walk, actually.
Telecommuting is the only way. Nope, requires energy.
Join the other kooky hippies living in the wild.
-juice
I have not read either article, but I would assume CR addresses some of Colin's concerns. Again, I have not read it yet, but they usually take a "practical" stance as to whether anything makes sense.
Also, CR addresses the Outback truck issue in a separate sidebar.
Bob
these less-offs ( more-ons equals less-off ) probably want gettysburg plowed so people wont drive their polluting cars to recall the horrors of civil war and to educate their young on wars so that hopefully someday wars may not exist?
there goes the china orphan adoption, hard to ride a bike across the pacific cuz those ships kill billions i am sure. stupid...
should i tell those bike idiots that this subaru owner bought 2 bikes today? i dont commute. i have a 'natural' property.
freaking idiots.....
I am very familiar with the predecessor of the "Chicago Bike Show". In a former life, I worked for the executive director of the regional bike dealers association (CABDA) that sponsored both the midwest trade show and the consumer bike show before CABDA became defunct.
Let me tell you that corporate involvement and sponsorship was always an integral part of putting on a quality show. The previous director viewed the event as one of inclusion and welcomed ANY organization that was conducive to cycling. That included corporate as well as non-profit entities (Rails-to-Trail, League of Illinois Wheelman, CBF) Yes, that included car companies as long as there presence wasn't overbearing. For them to single out Sube as the "enemy" is certainly moronic. I guess it peeves me when some moron posts on that Critical Mass site about the events that were held at the previous Rosemont bike shows were like flipping through the adds in Bicycle magazine. These are the same malcontents who will be whining when in future years the annual bike show ceases to exist.
How do these knuckleheads expect a show like the Consumer Bike Show to get off the ground??
Fortunately, not ALL bike advocacy organizations view their platform as "nothing but bikes".
(Sorry...rant off)
Ron
Please don't send any more of them to Calif it's already difficult enough to do sane things here with so many of them around.
BTW, I'm not extreme on any of the points listed above. 8~O
Jim
-Frank P.
just a reminder that nothing good comes out of taking a Cafe topic and turning it into over-generalized name calling....
But I also agree that there are responsible bikers, but for every i caring biker there are twenty boneheads.
Just yesterday we were driving home when we came to a stop sign I stopped, a biker came up on the right stuck out his left hand and proseeded to cross right in front of me just as I started to move.
I see them everyday, They ride on the sidewalk, traffic lights, stop signs, yield signs in their minds those things are only for fools and motorists you get the idea.
Cheers Pat.
swampy: I settle before Memorial Day, so the bike would still not be quick enough!
-juice
It can split the front-to-rear power split from 30/70 to 70/30. In addition, of the power that's sent to the rear, up to 100% of that power can be sent to either rear wheel. Unlike current Acura/Honda AWDs, this is set up as a "pro-driving" AWD, and not just a "foul-weather" AWD. Sounds like they're taking a page from Subaru's AWD philosophy here...
So this will come with Acura's flagship sedan. Does this now mean all Acuras will eventually get AWD? If so, here's another competitor for future "premium" Subarus.
Bob
Although - looks like SH-AWD could be proactive side to side, while VDC is reactive side to side.
Front to back VDC is proactive, though.
-juice
That truck is so wide is probably CAN'T share a lane with a bike, no matter the driver. It's also exploiting article 179 loopholes, gas and emissions loopholes too.
For Honda - yes, absolutely. Probably even more of an outcry, because Honda has the best CAFE score of any manufacturer.
-juice
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/02/business/02auto.html
-Dennis
"Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like."
Owen
Bob
-juice
http://www.honda.co.jp/HDTV/news/2004-4040401a/
Bob
Bob
Also, is this true for any model and any dealership?
Any other information is welcome.
Thanks in advance,
CUSAFR
any dealer, all vehicles currently including the STi. It's up to Subaru to limit future vehicles though.
I purchased my F-XT this way a few weeks ago. Was the easiest and nicest transaction by far. Seemed like it was a royal treatment too.
-Brian
-Brian
Jim
Bob
Key features:
Land Rover’s Terrain Response system (4WD):
This optimises driveability and comfort, as well as maximising traction. The driver chooses one of five terrain settings via a rotary switch on the centre console: a general driving program, plus one for slippery conditions (known as ‘grass/gravel/ snow’) and three special off-road modes (mud/ruts, sand, rock crawl). Terrain Response then automatically selects the most appropriate settings for the vehicle’s advanced electronic controls and traction aids – including ride height, engine torque response, hill descent control, electronic traction control and transmission settings.
Suspension:
Fully independent, and height adjustable (see above).
Body-frame structure:
Monocoque.
Headlights:
The Discovery 3 also features adaptive headlights that swivel with the direction of travel to illuminate the road ahead.
Engine:
It also uses a version of the Jaguar 4.4 V8.
3rd-row seats:
The optional third row of seats are big enough to accommodate 95th percentile adults.
Bob
Here's the link to install Flash: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod- _Version=ShockwaveFlash
-Brian
Looks like it gets a real 3rd row now. The last one was...well, fake.
They have to watch their prices. The Freelander came in too high for the market.
-juice
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7013&sid=17- 3&n=156
Bob
9-7x is pure TrailBlazer.
-juice
-Frank P.