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-Brian
;-)
Ross
Steve
The only 'accident' was when our 100lb shepherd took me out on one of the downhill runs!
Steve
;-p
Ross
Bob
Steve
Sounds to me you have your priorities in perfect order. ;-)
* they criticize the small trunk and tiny pass through, but the wagon addresses both complaints
* it can tow twice what the Accord can
* wagon also has a roof rack, neither sedan does
* Accord wins 0-60, but Legacy has the best brakes and was tied for quickest in their slalom
* Legacy is about $900 cheaper, plus street prices would have an even bigger advantage, and AWD comes free with the deal
And further to paisan's comment, they also criticize it for the tail coming out in a turn. But that's actually an aspect that many owners, including me, enjoy. It's controllable and fun, the tail wags but stay in the gas and the front wheels pull you out of the skid.
They want boring, I'll take the fun.
I agree, that Max looks overdone. They tried to leave a hint of Z car in the back, but it just looks wierd.
-juice
Greg
A funny thing is the '98 Forester was rated way up in the Excellent range. They downgraded it when they tested a 2001, even though it had improved. Proof they like brand new products.
The Legacy had the shortest stopping distances by far.
-juice
http://www.apexjapan.com/
Bob
What do you think of this - Saturn is offering huge rebates now. That was the only thing left to distinguish them!
-juice
Bob
-juice
Any how, this vehicle is no threat, none whatsoever, to the Forester. The Subaru is superior in just about every way.
We drove a very loaded up LS model, with heated leather and a (small) moonroof. It could not get out of its own way. I mean sssssslllooooooooow!
My Forester was quicker pulling Bob's trailer. Loaded. And the Outlander is about as loud as a Forester with the windows open. Lots of road noise only drowned out by the loud engine racket, it screams near redline with little/no results. All this with 20/25 mpg? You gotta be kidding!
Lots of shiny plastics, in fact all the materials felt cheap. The seats are an imitation suede that attracts lint like crazy and does not look dubrable.
I hated the twin archs over the speedo and tach, goofy looking. And the window is canted so you end up with a long dash, like the New Beetle. Top it off, front head room is tight, much less than the Forester.
Now some likes. The back seat has good leg room, though cargo space gets sacrificed. The rear door is nice and wide, and easy to get in. Fit and Finish is good, if only the materials were better. Beefy wheels and tires.
And more misses: drum brakes. No cross bars on the roof rack. Automatic only. Thin/cheap carpets and headliner (though Forester is about the same with those).
Ride was pretty good, handling not bad. Felt a little softer than the Forester, though.
I guess they could put an EVO motor in there and things might get interesting, but there are so many misses that it would have to come along with dozens of upgrades as well. I'll pass.
Edit: top it off, this one had a $3 grand dealer markup, and stickered for $24k! Fitz has them below invoice, so Rockville Mitsubishi just be high.
-juice
WTLW!
:'))
Steve
-Colin
nasioc off-topic frequent flyer
Try this for those ever-increasing acronyms:
http://www.netlingo.com/inframes.cfm
Ken
-Colin
I tried http://www.netlingo.com/inframes.cfm and couldn't get it either. At least on this site, you can enter new ones. Anyone want to be the first to register WTLW?
Ken
it definitely is used in places other than i-club & nasioc, but not yet in wide circulation apparently.
-Colin
Bob
http://www.motortrend.com/features/news/112_news41/
WHAT?
-Colin
Greg
Did you see the next blurb about Mitsubishi reviving "Colt"?!???
Jim
Though with Nissan and Infiniti, I don't see how a 3rd brand is needed, not at all.
-juice
-Brian
Definitely quicker than Subaru's. Subaru shiftronic falls in the middle, while Volvo and VW are on the very slow end of reponse times.
That may be the only feature I'd like to see Subaru copy from that vehicle.
-juice
The Datsun name continued into the mid '80's, transitioning to Nissan with each new model. I think the new for '82 Sentra & Pulsar (?) may have been the first ones to wear the name, IIRC. Most of the 'numbered' cars (210/310/510/200sx) remained Datsuns until they were retired.
Steve
Changing names to Nissan was a huge mistake at the time, Datsun carried an excellent reputation. To this date Nissan trails Honda and Toyota in reputation, and they didn't back then.
-juice
Greg
-juice
BTW, the WRX made it on the top 10 car list again.
Ken
Funny because the tranny is actually very nice. Ed - here is the automanual you want. Quick, almost immediate shifts. Touch/shift. Not touch...and...and...shift, like Volvo.
-juice
I don't remember it having much rust, maybe a bit near the wheels. But, boy was that engine clean. I remember opening the oil cap on the valve cover and seeing nothing but clean metal (no foam, gumming, etc.) It was a quiet engine too. Of course, it probably was all of maybe 1.5 liters or something...
-Brian
-mike
Much easier than my other sister's Triumph Spitfire or Volkswagon Squareback.
Steve
Ed
bit
bit
Greg
Jim
dog transmission is one without synchronizers... is that what you're thinking?
I learned manual transmission first on a dirtbike at age 7, then after many years of riding the elementary concept seemed easy enough in a car, it's just the left foot coordination and timing. '85 Mazda RX-7 GSL. If I had it back I'd stuff a turbo Buick V6 in it.
-Colin