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Can we have arguments on less obvious facts or whatsoever? These discussions remind me of someone who likes to repeat stories.
Is a 540i is 66% better? It might be interesting to ask some other questions to get some perspective.
So, a 330 coupe with premium and sport packages has an Euro invoice of $34,000. Add $1500 dealer profit, $1000 for a short trip to Germany, and subtract $500 for BMWCCA membership and you come up with a final price of $36,000.
A G35 6MT coupe with premium package sells at MSRP, which is $35,000.
So what's your flavour, Becks or Sapporo?
Personally, I like them both a lot and I haven't decided yet. Coupe/sedan, BMW/Infiniti...it's a touch choice.
How are people's experiences with this car on long road trips?
Any regrets from actual owners?
Anything you'd like to see for the 2004 model?
I can't help but think that I'd agree with you, if it weren't for the fact that you're wrong. The 330Ci is exactly 39% better than the G35 coupe, making it (by far) the better value. Sorry...
Now if we can just get Infiniti to increase production so prices can come down. At the local Infinity dealership they are loaded to the gills with the new FX sport utility but no unsold coupes. I guess the new FX is not selling well.
The new styling of BMW regarding the 7 and 5 series is not attractive to my eye. And I understand that BMW is already redesigning the 7 series after one year of production. If BMW makes the same mistake of Bangalizing the 3 series Infinity sales will skyrocket.
A note to Infinity: Please offer more color choices for the interior and exterior for the coupe. A nice medium red matallic would be great and how about a fun color for the interior?
Let's try to keep this topic on course. We have plenty of topics about reliability going on in both Maintenance & Repair and News & Views.
So, please, G35 subject matter only and let's leave BMW matters to their appropriate topics.
If I have to delete off-topic comments to get us back on course, then regrettably that's what I'll do from now on. You can all help by directing newcomers who want to talk Japanese vs. German reliablity to the appropriate boards or the search engine on the left of this page.
thank you
Shifty the Host
I would wish for better exterior colors though. Why do they need two shades of gray? My preference would be a nice navy metallic or burgundy metallic. . . Either would be stunning on this car. It wouldn't kill me to get black or the current red though.
It is a GTR concept version of the Nissan Skyline that is the G35 of Japan.
JW
- Mark
Less is more in car design, or else you get a Viper.
M
Of the cars I drove the other day I wish I could put the Acura's interior in the G35 Coupe.
M
JW
I noticed the same when I was car shopping, but it wasn't a deal breaker to me, and as I said is now less important than I thought it would be. Is the interior the best in class? No. It's just something to balance out against the car's other strengths.
jwilson1,
I did have doubts about his knowledge, because he didn't have the hp right either. He kept saying 300hp for the Coupe and 280 for the Sedan. Would be nice if true.
M
kitschy?
I also was pleasantly surprised by the raw nature of the V6, especially the exhaust note. It reminds me a bit of my old Mustang 5.0 days.
I would love to buy this car, but I will unfortunately be in the market for a replacement family car for my wife next, but maybe in a few years.
(Don't go there.)
JW
Bigorange: I think you've been successully brainwashed by the Nissan marketing folks. Calling the G35 coupe a "sportscar" is perhaps more ambitious than their labeling my 435 pound LIGHTER 1995 Maxima SE a "four door sports car". I'm looking at possible replacements and based upon my positive Nissan experience will consider the G35 coupe if the rear seats are resonably useable. The G35 sedan is not a contender. The G35 coupe, by the way weighs about the same as a 4-door, 5 passenger BMW 530i sport, the current leader on my Maxima replacement list. If all you really need is a 2-seat sportscar, you might want to try a Honda S2000. It's fit my bill perfectly, but it's not too good for carting 2-3 business associates around.
911/G35
Length: 175/182
Width: 72/72
Height: 51/55
Weight: 3361/3442
Seating Capacity: 4/4
Horsepower: 315/280
Torque: 273/270
# of cylinders 6/6
Do you not consider the 911 a sportscar?
My own answer to your question, by the way, is No. The back seat would be good for occasional use, not regular and not for keeping adults comfortable. For that purpose, your Maxima is much better.
The G35C, btw, is most accurately the 2+2 version of the 350Z. Sports car? I don't know. Like B/O says, it depends on your definition, and if your idea is that a "real" sports car is a dedicated 2-seater, and a sedan or passenger hauler is a 4 or 5-seater, then y ou need the additional category of 2+2 which has been useful since at least WWII to describe such cars as the 911, the XKE, the G35C, the Healy 3000, and so on.
JW
Here are some cars that weigh more than a 1995 Nissan Maxima and thusly heretofore may never again be referred to as a sports car:
Porsche 911 Turbo: NOT a sports car!
Acura NSX: NOT a sports car!
Aston Martin DB7 Vanquish: NOT even CLOSE to a sports car!
BMW M3: 400lbs heavier than a '95 Maxima, not a sports car
Corvette Z06: seats two yet weighs 100lbs more than 1995 Maximas and certain other selected sedans. Not a a sports car!
Lamborghini Murcielago: At 3600lbs, the Lambo is the epitome for what sports cars aren't?
Ferrari 360: It's relatively light, but my Prelude SH is lighter and everyone thinks that's too heavy to be called a sports car too. I guess Ferrari doesn't make a sports car either... oh well, don't tell shiftright!
Seriously, I don't have any problem calling the G35 Coupe a sports car, but I don't have a problem with someone saying its weight dictates that it can't be one either. But if 3000lbs is too heavy for a sports car, then be prepared to accept that there aren't many sports cars. Moreover, accept that the moment you give the S2000 a tank of gas then sit yourself in the driver's seat, it too becomes a 3000lb porkmobile and therefore loses any claim on the word "sport". Add a passenger to a S2000 and its weight approaches that of an Infiniti G35 coupe.
Actually there is a thread in News and Views entitled: "What does it take to make a car sporty" that addresses this very same question.
That would rectify that problem. Cars with a certain amount of power to weight along with a certain body type equals sports car.
(and slick conditions).
Bigorange: On the G35 coupe question of "is it or isn't it" a "sports car", my point might have been taken the wrong way. I think the G35 coupe has better attributes as a "sports coupe" than the 350Z does as a "sports car". The compromises that make cars like the G35 coupe and 330ci more versitile as "coupes" are acceptable trade-offs in my book.
Weight is only one factor affecting handling and performance and I apologize if I appear to be using 3,000 lbs as the gauntlet past which sports cars do not exist. That's clearly not the case. I'd be more than happy to have a 3,068 lb, 400 hp, 7,900 rpm Ferrari 360 adorning my driveway. The 3,045 lb, 200 hp FWD Prelude? No thanks. It's a fine specimen of Honda engineering, but no 60/40 balanced FWD coupe is going to get labeled as a sports car by me, ATTS and other technology notwithstanding. The 3,250+ lb fixed roof 2-seat 6,500 rpm 350Z? No thanks again. I have no reason to believe that Nissan doesn't have the ability to build a 2,800 lb fixed roof sports car with a 7,500 rpm engine. Except that they want to use every part in their manufacturing bins for at least 3+ models and their 3.5 liter V6 in everything from trucks and SUV's to a not-so-light weight and not-so-nimble sports car. That may be O.K. for the G35, not a 240Z spiritual reincarnation. Just my opinion.
By the way, the 911 C2 weighs 2,960 lbs, not the 3,300+ claimed in a previous post.
The G35 and 3 series are both GT's in my book because they have TCS, VSC, and EBD (acronyms are great for safety and expanding the performance envelope, but they dilute the driving experience). They are also plush, refined, luxurious, and comfortable due to noise control measures, dual-zone climate control, power/heated seats with memory, etc.
Even the Corvette, Ferrari, NSX, etc. are GT cars in my book because, although they offer ridiculous levels of performance, they are also comfortable highway cruisers with all the goodies.
Highly subjective, I know...
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