You make me laugh. Most of this new motor technology you talk about with GM development is about three years two late. I love the way that GM will jump on the band wagon, for instance, a coil per cylinder, multiport fuel injection, and the new cooling systems that allow the motors to run with no coolant. GM is great at this and then somehow managing to claim that they were the first.
Chevy is copying Ford right down to the tail lights. Ford had the engine stuff, injector and coil per cylinder, no fluid cooling system, etc., 3 years ago, and now copycat chevy claims they invented it. Ford had 3 doors, chevy 2, then Ford went with 4 doors, chevy 3, now chevy is offering 4, but it cost extra. Look at chevy new sportside, then look at a 97 Ford flareside. copycat. Chevy braggs about 4 bolt mains, Ford has 6 bolt mains.
Ford may have been first, but at least Chevy did it right. Why does Dord's mileage suck so bad if they are using the same or more advanced technology? Oh yeah, and for lower horsepower?
In addition, Ford only did it first on trucks, Chevy did it in passenger cars long ago ... before Ford.
I jokingly gave you the most hypocritical award because you stated in your second paragraph how much the Dodge was so much more of a manly truck. right before that you posted this statement:
"Enough is enough! all of you guys are going on and on about horse power and hauling etc. The differences once you are driving are almost the same as trying to buy a tv. In the store with all of the tv's next to one another you can tell that the sony has a clearer picture than the GE. but when you get home the GE picture looks great."
you basically chewed us out for our arguments, then in your next paragraph did the same thing yourself.
since I'm so shallow minded, will you please tell me what that means.
Snookey. the corvette engine is in the corvette. its a 350. the 5.3 and 4.8 were built with a totally different block than the 5.7. the only thing they carried over was the head port design and induction. The air induction technique on the 'vette were the proving grounds for that type of injection technology, now its being used on the trucks also. I agree, the Ford and Dodge do have better lower end than the GMs. but all the ones I drove had great gearing with the transmission. anytime, any speed you step on the gas, it jumps into the powerband and zoom you go. but you did get a reliable platform. it just doesn't any mileage. I think the Chevy pulls better, personally, cuz i've pulled with the 5.3 and with the old chevy's and with the Dodge. the nice low peak torque is good for cruising, but only if you cruise fairly slowly and stay in that narrow range. But the long wide powerband lets you have great acceleration in any gear with a load, and it cruises nicely at most any speed. not really sure yet which type of torque curve gets the best mileage pulling. diff strokes, diff folks....
Ford had multiport injection 12 years ago. problem was, they didn't get any better mileage or power than a carbuerator. Why do you want to invest in something so high tech if you get absolutely no benefit from it and its more expensive? At least when GM gets somehting new out, it actually is an improvement.
You guys are stirring up crap now even with out me!....I'll just sit back and enjoy for a while.
Whoever you were....Why yes...I CAN say that in the 20 Hours I've had my Black 2000 3/4 LT..I have had MANY comments and Thumbs up..as well as several Head turns.
I compared the 5.4, 5.3 and 5.9 together for one reason. They are the larget available engine offered in the 1/2 tons. The 6.0 is only offered in the 3/4 ton and up.
Chevy trucks are good truck but the Ram is King of the trail. Chevys are good for the road only. If you do not offroad than a chevy is fine.
I figured that was why you did that. Dodge can offer a 360 and a V-8 in a small truck for one reason - They have no power!
geez.....me and all my dozens of Chevy Friends seem to go off road all the time?....Must be a fluke..eh?...Seems when you go into the country and go off road...All Chevy's and Fords. I'm sure Dodge can go too...but most of what I see is Not Dodge.
cdean, You have me confused with f220swift. I only asked if the 6.0 was available in the half-tons. Only a question. Second, the light-duty F250 is only a f150 with a heavier suspension-not exactly equal to the Chevy 2500. Compare to super-duty instead; plus, I never brought up the v-10.
Tim, Got me wrong, I'm bitter if someone doesn't use their truck--not if they own Ford or not.
I was gone for a day and 37posts arrived since then!! Damn guys, I don't know if I can keep up.
But I disagree with you about the GM 2500. Its not a competitor with the Superduty, i think its the exact same class as the f250 LD. GM upgraded their 2500 light more than Ford did. GM gave it beefier suspension and bigger frame, overall a much heavier truck. And yes, i noticed on the website they give it the name heavy duty. But next year, GM is coming out with their 'real' heavy duty 3/4 and one tons. That line of trucks will have the new Big block available along with the new diesels. THOSE will be the competitor in the class of the Superduty. the current 2500 Silverado will never see the diesel or big block, only the 6.0 and 5.3. GM will be selling 2 models of 3/4 ton, just like Ford.
Thus, that leaves it in the same class as the F250LD.
Are you one of those guys who think offroading is driving on a GRAVEL road or better yet going over curbs in a parking lot!. Seems to be alot of people like that today.
They normally drive chevy's I have noticed.
A common trend i have noticed among my friends is that Dodge 2wd trucks go wherever the Chevy Z71's go. Hmmmm Interesting.
All GM 2500 series trucks use c-clip semi-floating axles with single stage leaf springs. Whether 4wd or 2wd, HD or LD. LD's get the lighter trannys and slightly lighter springs to differentiate them from the HD's. The old 3500's and I assume the new 3500's when released will use a full floating rear axle with dual stage leaf springs. This is a truly "HD" set up.
Ford's "SuperDuty" 250 uses a full floater and dual stage leafs. Truly "Heavy Duty" Ford's LD 250 uses a semi floating axle and single stage leafs.
Although GM 2500's and Ford SD 250's are both rated at 8600 GVW, I think you'll find that when equally loaded the Ford will handle the weight (suspension-wise) better due to it's heavier design. Yes, legally the GM has a higher payload capacity due to it's lighter curb weight but I've owned both and I'll take a full floating axle over a C-clip anyday.
When is the Silverado 3500 with the Isuzu diesel/Allison tranny coming out? I'll be first in line when it does.
Then I can stop freaking out the local GMC dealer when I make diesel sounds as I test the 2500/6.0L.
cdean, Are the new HD line for GM arriving next year? (put it on this time!)If so, how is it going to compete with the structure of Ford's SD?
Tim, Notice that this is a Chevy vs. Dodge topic and we all seem to be talking Ford vs.Chevy?? Hmmmm. I guess you're right big guy: Ford v. Chevy--there are no others.
Maybe the title doen't say Ford, but never the less its in this conversation. I looked at the Ford SD 4x4. Tall truck. But too tall for 5th wheels. What was Ford thinking of when they built it so tall? A truck doesn't need to be tall to be strong. I understand Ford has a kit for the 1 ton to lower it for 5th wheel applications. But a dealer told me its not available for the 3/4 ton 4x4. How does this effect the drive shaft angle. We all know that when a truck is raised (for bigger tires or just apperance) it changes the drive shaft angle and can shorten U-joint life. If Ford is lowering these trucks they now have a U-joint at an angle different than what it was designed for. Anybody know if this is causing any failures? Look out on the highways. 5th wheel owners make up a large number of truck buyers. But I guess those that also 5th wheel off the beaten path don't. But this kind of limits a persons choices. Currently I just put my Z71 in low four and go. Unbelieveable power in low four even with a 350. I can go up and down any dirt road mud or not. I pulled my 5th wheel up a wet steep grass imbankment that a Ford 2 wheel drive could make. 4x4's and 5th wheels get you off the beaten path, but not with a Ford. ......... Rich
Ford must own this site as this electonic gizzmo changed my sentence near the end from " I pulled my 5th wheel up a wet steep grass imbankment that a Ford 2 wheel drive couldn't make." Boy, you cann't trust anything. The SD also cann't go in most garages. And owners must have to take up weight lifting to avoid a hernea lifting object 15 feet up to get them in the bed. They must have been designed by some 15 year old on a testosterone high. Boy, Tim , your right, this is fun. ...... Rich
Then why by new if your going to let it set out where the birds fly and the hail falls? There's a good used truck lot here that has trucks already decorated the way you must like. Dents in the tail gate and a cracked window or two . Plus being used you can get cheaper insurance. And then when you buy used tires at $5 a piece down at the corner station they won't look so out of place. ....... Rich
Gents, I have been keeping to myself reading all your postings. I am one who values EVERYONES opinions. A fool listens to what the dealer promises or says his product can do. But listening to other non dealer or personal opinions has to be the best way good get the heads up on the truck you are to spend at least $20k on if its a full size. I have been on the net getting feedback because I am really interested in the Cheverolet Silverado 4x4 EC,LB. I have come acrosss some interesing articles. If anyone is interested in getrting a silverado Here are some bold comments made by kelly Blue Book.
If you are interested in reading the whole report here is the address.
Lets get to the bottom line. I looked at chevy,gmc and dodge. I went with dodge. why? $3000.00 less, same equipment. now I know why they told me at the chevy dealer it has been slow around here.
Just for grins I pulled into a local Chevy dealer today (being a Sunday) and took a look around. The first thing that I noticed, besides my truck looking better and standing taller, was that the tow hooks looked more like fish hooks on the Chevy. Humm!! Must relate back to the drivetrain.
Why aren't the rebates and incentives up to date? I understand that the Malibu has $1500 rebate and "maybe" 750 dealer incentive? Would like to verify this.....help!
richie, Ahhh! Buying new is important so I know you put the dents where and why. Although your point taken, buying a used Chevy might not be bad since the likelyhood that it was actually used as a truck and not a car is minimal. Good call richie. Tim, No- not you brother, I respect hunters. Just get that beer nice and cold and maybe you'll be able to loosen me up to liking GM again.
Hey! Give tim a break! Its a NEW truck, if you like it or not. He is proud of it, just like everybody is of their new ride. Tim you must go deep into the darkest woods where the bears live, because that is also where the RAMS are. Quad C-clip axles have the weight of the truck on the axles. Full floaters carry the weight on the housing, the axles only job is to turn the wheels.
Tim again, What equipment does you truck have? I'm a little behind. Has it lived-up to your expectations? Is there anything you would do or get different? Wildman
OK..now we are clear...Maybe enough brews and we might even like Dodge?...Nahh...They don't make that much beer!
Wildmanbaker,
There are no rams here in Michigan!....a few on the road...but never one in the woods. Truck is an LT....so it has just about everything..power all..Leather..4WD..autotrack..Ext,cab..SB...3/4 ton. Options I did get are: 4:10's/On-Off road tires/Skid plates/block heater/oil cooler/towing package/Firm Ride Didn't get: Cell phone hook-ups/2nd battery/camper wiring/locking differential. Lived to expectations?...so far I guess...I haven't really had it long enough or done much more than drive to work. Had 2800 lbs of Cruched Limestone to get Saturday...but I have no bedliner yet and used the old 1/2 ton. She was a sagger...but worked fine. What would I change??....get it with 500 miles ALREADY on it!..I hate the break in!!...LOL!!!
I'll bet with all of those wonderful expensive options you couldn't buy a fourth door.
Rich said it best keep that low rider chevy cars,,,, opps! I mean trucks (haha), on the road and out of the mud and the mountains where the RAMS live.
Russell13,
welcome to the elite club of RAMMERS. Now please join us in the clubs cheer ggrruuchrunch! That is the sound we Ram owners make when we rollover those low rider chevys.
Trucklover has been in the Tundra site bashing us, too. How a Dodge owner can talk junk to others is beyond my comprehension! Have you taken that new Chevy to the deer woods yet? Less than a month until bow season here in NC. What about in Michigan? Do you have any contacts with the Sanctuary? A free trip would be nice! Tell Nugent hello. Todd
Trucklover....I don't think that name is going to fit on a bumper sticker. As for my name...Figure it out...not that hard.
220swift,
I noticed the hooks are much smaller than my last Chevy (about 1/2 size)...But I guess over the years they just have determined that Chevy's just don't need to be pulled out as much. You said Dodge hooks are huge..right?.....Point made. Thanks for pointing that out.
TP, ..Now why would someone come along and cause crap??..Dohh!!...Don't worry about him...it's Dodge!..you know..the Truck company that goes all the way back to 1994! Had the opportunity to go last weekend...but I gots tons o crap to do at home before my huge Labor Day bash. Bow season is Oct.1st???....not sure...Rifle is all I do. No contacts....Just the ones in my eyes!
But I have been seeing a couple of 3/4's in as dealer stock..
Drove a 1/2 ton today vs. 3/4 ton, both ext. cab, both year 2000, 4x4 the 1/2 ton was a Vortec 5.3, the 3/4, a 6.0. I noticed a pretty big difference. Although the 1/2 drove like a dream (drove that 1st), during the ride everything about it was right on! Noticed during terrain-change aka potholes, the 1/2 ton bounced very little and felt sturdy. But, when I drove the 3/4 ton shortly thereafter, I noticed that the 3/4 was a solid-HEAVY feel, took a bit more gas to get it going (by no means in a negative way), it just felt like driving a tank.
I'm gonna be so damned tickled when I get my 2500! But, YIKES, no order number - what should I do? Been asking around, 2 people told me they are making 3/4 tons for the souther states. No fair. Have you got any scoop from anyone you know that works at GM?
Tim, The reason you haven't seen another 3/4 Chevy is simple. Generally buyers of 3/4ton and up are construction or farm owners. See where I'm going? Trucks that need to work have a shiny blue oval on their front. It reads: Ford. civilians are for Chevy. Men for Fords. And Dodge??? Well, "RAMMERS", heading for Fire Island???????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;) Damn, I can't believe trucklover actually typed that. Rammer? Oh boy. Tim, I don't think there is enough beer in the world, including red bull, to make me want to call myself a "Rammer". LOL!
That blue oval leaves puddles in my driveway, leaks every fluid including power steering, freon, and the transmission makes those awful squealing sounds Fords are famous for. It's an '89 E350. Still have it though. And it's Ford tough, but they should call it Ford "rough." For the ram to be worse, it would have to be found on road dead.
Men can be civilians, too. Nothing wrong with the Bowtie.
actually, i've seen lots of new 2500 Silverados around in the Texas area (been in Dallas for couple of months now). almost everyone of them are 4x4, ex-cab long bed. sure there are tons of the new 1500s on the road now, but around here, the 2500 isn't that rare.
for commercial trucks, i've seen a few 1500s with Decals, toolboxes and racks put on them, but can't remember any 2500s. quite a few F250 SD's though....
The board is for play. Most of us dodge owners have to work. The type of job that a man does for a living has nothing to do with this topic or which truck he thinks is better.
Tim What do you have for tunes? Can understant not wanting to load light rocks in you truck, damn, those first scraches are painful. How can you play "light-foot-larry" for 500 miles of break-in? I never could. Had a Black GMC, it was 6 months before I realized the rocker panels were not polished SS. What a bear to keep looking good though. Got to admire your pain and suffering to keep it looking good.
dave40 I was looking at your TSB "plant", but there was not any real infomation about any of the problems listed for any of the makes. Do you have to go to another web to get the real TSBs? I hear alot about Dodge brake and trans problems, and wanted to see what they are.
kernick Those Dodges are at the reststops waiting for the Fords and Chevys to catch-up, since we don't have to stop for gas as often as the other 2. Alot of times, we just fall asleep because we have to wait sooo long. Low tech? Hey man, we no longer have to raise the and light the engine with a box of matches.
trucklover Hope your nick is nothing more than that. At least your comment got some yuks. Keep fighin.
Everbody Maybe we should forget the Job thing, could be like mothers and fathers eh? Besides I have the greatest respect for the people who clean the Portoletts. But hey funs.. fun.
If you look back further in this topic, you will see several people who comment that if you really work you have a Dodge. They go on to comment how they pound their Dodges, and no Chevy could possible holdup. These postings lead me to picture Fred Flinstone dumping tons of granite in a Dodge. Yep us Dodge Rammers hauling and dumping rocks and stuff and things. It's a joke - satire. But if you're pounding your chest too hard and loud praising Dodge, you might miss it.
Black looks great on any pickup. It takes a lot to keep it clean, but if you do they look great. I put a rubber mat in mine instead of a liner to prevent load shifting. The spray in type is good but I didn't want the paint sanded and acid etched. The Line-x looks the best.
Comments
In addition, Ford only did it first on trucks, Chevy did it in passenger cars long ago ... before Ford.
GMC/Chevy was first witht the third door. SAAB was first with the distributor less ignition.
I jokingly gave you the most hypocritical award because you stated in your second paragraph how much the Dodge was so much more of a manly truck. right before that you posted this statement:
"Enough is enough! all of you guys are going on and on about horse power and hauling etc. The
differences once you are driving are almost the
same as trying to buy a tv. In the store with all
of the tv's next to one another you can tell that
the sony has a clearer picture than the GE. but
when you get home the GE picture looks great."
you basically chewed us out for our arguments, then in your next paragraph did the same thing yourself.
since I'm so shallow minded, will you please tell me what that means.
Snookey. the corvette engine is in the corvette. its a 350. the 5.3 and 4.8 were built with a totally different block than the 5.7. the only thing they carried over was the head port design and induction. The air induction technique on the 'vette were the proving grounds for that type of injection technology, now its being used on the trucks also. I agree, the Ford and Dodge do have better lower end than the GMs. but all the ones I drove had great gearing with the transmission. anytime, any speed you step on the gas, it jumps into the powerband and zoom you go. but you did get a reliable platform. it just doesn't any mileage. I think the Chevy pulls better, personally, cuz i've pulled with the 5.3 and with the old chevy's and with the Dodge. the nice low peak torque is good for cruising, but only if you cruise fairly slowly and stay in that narrow range. But the long wide powerband lets you have great acceleration in any gear with a load, and it cruises nicely at most any speed. not really sure yet which type of torque curve gets the best mileage pulling. diff strokes, diff folks....
Ford had multiport injection 12 years ago. problem was, they didn't get any better mileage or power than a carbuerator. Why do you want to invest in something so high tech if you get absolutely no benefit from it and its more expensive? At least when GM gets somehting new out, it actually is an improvement.
You guys are stirring up crap now even with out me!....I'll just sit back and enjoy for a while.
Whoever you were....Why yes...I CAN say that in the 20 Hours I've had my Black 2000 3/4 LT..I have had MANY comments and Thumbs up..as well as several Head turns.
Newfs....geez....My 6.0 has a 6 Bolt main..Not 4.
Enjoy My Children!!
- Tim
I accept my award with grace and dignity.
One thing really make me happy even with all of this testosterone floating around. We all love our trucks and that's what it is all about. Isn't it?
Mgdvhman,
Mine is still prettier than yours... nana.. :-) RAM RULES
Chevy trucks are good truck but the Ram is King of the trail. Chevys are good for the road only.
If you do not offroad than a chevy is fine.
Rich
geez.....me and all my dozens of Chevy Friends seem to go off road all the time?....Must be a fluke..eh?...Seems when you go into the country and go off road...All Chevy's and Fords. I'm sure Dodge can go too...but most of what I see is Not Dodge.
Enjoy
- Tim
You have me confused with f220swift. I only asked if the 6.0 was available in the half-tons. Only a question. Second, the light-duty F250 is only a f150 with a heavier suspension-not exactly equal to the Chevy 2500. Compare to super-duty instead; plus, I never brought up the v-10.
Tim,
Got me wrong, I'm bitter if someone doesn't use their truck--not if they own Ford or not.
I was gone for a day and 37posts arrived since then!! Damn guys, I don't know if I can keep up.
...except all right by me.
- Tim
But I disagree with you about the GM 2500. Its not a competitor with the Superduty, i think its the exact same class as the f250 LD. GM upgraded their 2500 light more than Ford did. GM gave it beefier suspension and bigger frame, overall a much heavier truck. And yes, i noticed on the website they give it the name heavy duty. But next year, GM is coming out with their 'real' heavy duty 3/4 and one tons. That line of trucks will have the new Big block available along with the new diesels. THOSE will be the competitor in the class of the Superduty. the current 2500 Silverado will never see the diesel or big block, only the 6.0 and 5.3. GM will be selling 2 models of 3/4 ton, just like Ford.
Thus, that leaves it in the same class as the F250LD.
They normally drive chevy's I have noticed.
A common trend i have noticed among my friends is that Dodge 2wd trucks go wherever the Chevy Z71's go. Hmmmm Interesting.
That's Yuppy 4 Wheel driving..A yuppy i am not. I am the farthest thing away from that.(Thanks God!)
Cdean
2WD 2500's are LD..yes
4WD 2500's are HD (8600 GVW)
- Tim
you are killin' me boss.
- Tim
The old 3500's and I assume the new 3500's when released will use a full floating rear axle with dual stage leaf springs. This is a truly "HD" set up.
Ford's "SuperDuty" 250 uses a full floater and dual stage leafs. Truly "Heavy Duty"
Ford's LD 250 uses a semi floating axle and single stage leafs.
Although GM 2500's and Ford SD 250's are both rated at 8600 GVW, I think you'll find that when equally loaded the Ford will handle the weight (suspension-wise) better due to it's heavier design. Yes, legally the GM has a higher payload capacity due to it's lighter curb weight but I've owned both and I'll take a full floating axle over a C-clip anyday.
When is the Silverado 3500 with the Isuzu diesel/Allison tranny coming out? I'll be first in line when it does.
Then I can stop freaking out the local GMC dealer when I make diesel sounds as I test the 2500/6.0L.
Good insight.
Perhaps you can take a recording of a Diesel with you next time?..set it on the passenger seat.
Hey guys...I went back to refresh myself how this catagory even began.
JKnecht,
What have you decided?...Dakota or Silverado?
- Tim
Are the new HD line for GM arriving next year? (put it on this time!)If so, how is it going to compete with the structure of Ford's SD?
Tim,
Notice that this is a Chevy vs. Dodge topic and we all seem to be talking Ford vs.Chevy?? Hmmmm.
I guess you're right big guy: Ford v. Chevy--there are no others.
One more thing we can agree on I guess!
(Lemme re-kindle the fire)
...Dodge and performance have nothing to do with each other.
- Tim
wet steep grass imbankment that a Ford 2 wheel
drive couldn't make." Boy, you cann't trust anything. The SD also cann't go in most garages. And owners must have to take up weight lifting to avoid a hernea lifting object 15 feet up to get them in the bed. They must have been designed by some 15 year old on a testosterone high. Boy, Tim , your right, this is fun. ...... Rich
Another student graduates!
- Tim
I have been keeping to myself reading all your postings. I am one who values EVERYONES opinions. A fool listens to what the dealer promises or says his product can do. But listening to other non dealer or personal opinions has to be the best way good get the heads up on the truck you are to spend at least $20k on if its a full size. I have been on the net getting feedback because I am really interested in the Cheverolet Silverado 4x4 EC,LB. I have come acrosss some interesing articles. If anyone is interested in getrting a silverado Here are some bold comments made by kelly Blue Book.
If you are interested in reading the whole report here is the address.
http://kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.rp?kbb&&11&99silverado
I looked at chevy,gmc and dodge.
I went with dodge. why?
$3000.00 less, same equipment.
now I know why they told me at the chevy dealer it has been slow around here.
date? I understand that the Malibu has $1500
rebate and "maybe" 750 dealer incentive? Would
like to verify this.....help!
Ahhh! Buying new is important so I know you put the dents where and why. Although your point taken, buying a used Chevy might not be bad since the likelyhood that it was actually used as a truck and not a car is minimal. Good call richie.
Tim,
No- not you brother, I respect hunters. Just get that beer nice and cold and maybe you'll be able to loosen me up to liking GM again.
Rich,
Just light baby, light poking harassment.
Tim
you must go deep into the darkest woods where the bears live, because that is also where the RAMS are.
Quad
C-clip axles have the weight of the truck on the axles. Full floaters carry the weight on the housing, the axles only job is to turn the wheels.
Tim again,
What equipment does you truck have? I'm a little behind. Has it lived-up to your expectations? Is there anything you would do or get different?
Wildman
OK..now we are clear...Maybe enough brews and we might even like Dodge?...Nahh...They don't make that much beer!
Wildmanbaker,
There are no rams here in Michigan!....a few on the road...but never one in the woods. Truck is an LT....so it has just about everything..power all..Leather..4WD..autotrack..Ext,cab..SB...3/4 ton. Options I did get are: 4:10's/On-Off road tires/Skid plates/block heater/oil cooler/towing package/Firm Ride
Didn't get: Cell phone hook-ups/2nd battery/camper wiring/locking differential. Lived to expectations?...so far I guess...I haven't really had it long enough or done much more than drive to work. Had 2800 lbs of Cruched Limestone to get Saturday...but I have no bedliner yet and used the old 1/2 ton. She was a sagger...but worked fine.
What would I change??....get it with 500 miles ALREADY on it!..I hate the break in!!...LOL!!!
- Tim
I'll bet with all of those wonderful expensive options you couldn't buy a fourth door.
Rich said it best keep that low rider chevy cars,,,, opps! I mean trucks (haha), on the road and out of the mud and the mountains where the RAMS live.
Russell13,
welcome to the elite club of RAMMERS. Now please join us in the clubs cheer ggrruuchrunch! That is the sound we Ram owners make when we rollover those low rider chevys.
ggrruuchrunch!!!!!!!1
..Not really sure I want to be around a bunch of guys who call themselves "Rammers".
Yikes.
Let me get out of this room.....walking out backwards that is...
- Tim
220swift,
I noticed the hooks are much smaller than my last Chevy (about 1/2 size)...But I guess over the years they just have determined that Chevy's just don't need to be pulled out as much. You said Dodge hooks are huge..right?.....Point made. Thanks for pointing that out.
TP,
..Now why would someone come along and cause crap??..Dohh!!...Don't worry about him...it's Dodge!..you know..the Truck company that goes all the way back to 1994!
Had the opportunity to go last weekend...but I gots tons o crap to do at home before my huge Labor Day bash. Bow season is Oct.1st???....not sure...Rifle is all I do. No contacts....Just the ones in my eyes!
Enjoy!
- Tim
Truck lover...who said that??
Sounds like a cry for help!
..At what exact post do I seem like I'm upset? How can one be upset with this many beers so close by?
That was the funniest comeback I have ever heard. Was reading it at work for a few minutes and was in hysterics. LOL.
I wouldn't want to be called a Rammer either. Anyone from the Rammers club hang out at the rest stops? (Did ya ever see "Something About Mary)
Still laughing..................
P.S. How's the first few days with your truck?
I can't remember..has an order # came for yours yet?
- Tim
Drove a 1/2 ton today vs. 3/4 ton, both ext. cab, both year 2000, 4x4 the 1/2 ton was a Vortec 5.3, the 3/4, a 6.0. I noticed a pretty big difference. Although the 1/2 drove like a dream (drove that 1st), during the ride everything about it was right on! Noticed during terrain-change aka potholes, the 1/2 ton bounced very little and felt sturdy. But, when I drove the 3/4 ton shortly thereafter, I noticed that the 3/4 was a solid-HEAVY feel, took a bit more gas to get it going (by no means in a negative way), it just felt like driving a tank.
I'm gonna be so damned tickled when I get my 2500! But, YIKES, no order number - what should I do? Been asking around, 2 people told me they are making 3/4 tons for the souther states. No fair. Have you got any scoop from anyone you know that works at GM?
:-( :-( :-( :-(
Cindy
I have yet to see a 3/4 at my dealer..other than mine.
You DID get the 6.0..right?
I'll ask what's up....but I can tell you right now..it's just the game you gotta play for now. Their allocation system sux right now!
The reason you haven't seen another 3/4 Chevy is simple. Generally buyers of 3/4ton and up are construction or farm owners. See where I'm going? Trucks that need to work have a shiny blue oval on their front. It reads: Ford.
civilians are for Chevy. Men for Fords. And Dodge??? Well, "RAMMERS", heading for Fire Island???????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
Damn, I can't believe trucklover actually typed that. Rammer? Oh boy.
Tim, I don't think there is enough beer in the world, including red bull, to make me want to call myself a "Rammer". LOL!
Men can be civilians, too. Nothing wrong with the Bowtie.
for commercial trucks, i've seen a few 1500s with Decals, toolboxes and racks put on them, but can't remember any 2500s. quite a few F250 SD's though....
What do you have for tunes? Can understant not wanting to load light rocks in you truck, damn, those first scraches are painful. How can you play "light-foot-larry" for 500 miles of break-in? I never could. Had a Black GMC, it was 6 months before I realized the rocker panels were not polished SS. What a bear to keep looking good though. Got to admire your pain and suffering to keep it looking good.
dave40
I was looking at your TSB "plant", but there was not any real infomation about any of the problems listed for any of the makes. Do you have to go to another web to get the real TSBs? I hear alot about Dodge brake and trans problems, and wanted to see what they are.
kernick
Those Dodges are at the reststops waiting for the Fords and Chevys to catch-up, since we don't have to stop for gas as often as the other 2. Alot of times, we just fall asleep because we have to wait sooo long. Low tech? Hey man, we no longer have to raise the and light the engine with a box of matches.
trucklover
Hope your nick is nothing more than that. At least your comment got some yuks. Keep fighin.
Everbody
Maybe we should forget the Job thing, could be like mothers and fathers eh? Besides I have the greatest respect for the people who clean the Portoletts. But hey funs.. fun.
These postings lead me to picture Fred Flinstone dumping tons of granite in a Dodge. Yep us Dodge Rammers hauling and dumping rocks and stuff and things. It's a joke - satire. But if you're pounding your chest too hard and loud praising Dodge, you might miss it.