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just inherited it from my Calif. mom (75 and was still driving it!). if I want to restore it (really only needs paint job), how do i start?
anything that i shouldn't do?
how do you find someone to do good paint work?
DON'T change the color
DON'T have Earl Scheib or Miracle paint it
DON'T spend more than $10,000 restoring the car
DON'T do a "tape" job...strip the car's chrome, glass and trim and paint everything, including door jams and, if needed, under the hood and in the trunk.
DON'T forget to clean and detail the undercarriage.
DON'T start the bodywork until you've done the mechanicals.
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'60's Mustangs gas tank problem? I had never seen this before. They showed how this gas tank was simply dropped into the car. There was nothing between the tank and the passenger area. In a rear-end collision, they showed gas spewing all over the crash dummy in the driver seat! I caught the middle of a story, but it looks like a young kid died as a result of this. Do you guys remember any dispute about this design years ago?
guitarzan
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This story has been on before (I assume this was a rerun). As I recall, you could fix the danger by welding in a plate behind the rear seat. Of course, that reduces the value of your classic...
Remember, the '65 probably had a metal dashboard, no headrests, maybe lap belts, non-collapsible steering column, no door beams, etc. makes you wonder why anyone survived driving in the old days.
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I didn't see the recent story but in the mid-1960's very few of us had the disposition to file product-safety suits based on the precept that an alternate design might have better tolerated a major mishap involving the product.
This was safe in that it kept the stumps and rocks from damaging the tank. And you didn't need a fuel gauge; just listen to the sloshing.
Story 1) I had a high school speech/English teacher--a very prim and proper lady who drove a 60-something Buick Skylark. One day she showed up at school with a triple black GS! We all went nuts! She was not the kind you could talk to easily, but I mowed her yard in the summer and was a little closer to her than some. She confessed to me that she really liked the black car, but it had "almost too much" get up and go for her, much more she said than her old Buick! I actually got to drive it once. I was mowing the yard and ran out of gas. When I went to tell her I was going to get more and come back, she gave me a $20 and told me to take her car and fill it up too! I was too scared of wrecking it or being seen in it to do too much, but I did kick it just once---wow!
2) The firebird John Wayne drove in McQ was a formula with the twin "dog house" scoops on the nose of the hood.
3) McQueen in Bullit walked around the Mustang (390 with 428 springs in the front to try to keep it off the ground *after* the jumps!) and kicked a dent in the door "so it'd look like a cop's car". One of my favorite movies of all times. McQueen did a lot of the driving, insisted on it in fact, until he couldn't make it skid like the director wanted it too and he let a stunt driver take over. The shock towers kept caving in during the chase scene. I recently showed this movie to my sons (17 & 14) it was mildly interesting until the chase....then I looked over and saw them watching immobile--in mid bite!
Later,
Hal
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As for the other GS owner, to each his own, but the C5 Corvette is a fabulous car, with handling and braking an old muscle car could only dream about. And given that a C5 is worth double his GS, hey, he could swap for the C5, sell it and buy two GSs! He'd be foolish to refuse a C5, but then, someone would be foolish to offer it...so this remains a very hypothetical dare on his part.
re: '65 Mustang 6-cyl 3-spd.
My mom bought one new in 1964 1/2, a maroon convertible, she said. She traded it in on a 1963 Corvette convertible in '66 or '67 at the very latest, because the transmission was lunching itself, she said.
re: 1969 Ford F-250
Yup, had the gas tank right behind the seat. I learned to drive in the thing. Best friend's dad had a '78 F-150, and the tank was relocated to underneath the bed.
re: Bullitt
Rented it once, but never made it all the way through it. Should try again, I gather?
But...After reading some 100 plus topics, I now feel this urge for another old car!
My current toy, A Miata now seems boring!
Maybe it's time for a trade...?
I should have never come here!
For some reason, I started thinking about a '73 Mustang Mach1 recently (my brother in law had one back in the late 70's). red with a 302 and a three speed stick. Probably the worst bad weather car ever made (from a driving standpoint), but would look real neat in my garage.
It really is a disease, isn't it?
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The disease is upon me!
As is the way of the worlkd, all good things must end and I think I've talked myself into selling my baby. I bought him in 1979 and have taken him to Hawai`i and back (twice) and CA and VA (I'm in the Navy). However, since I work in beautiful downtown SE DC, I had to get a more (100%) reliable car (a 98 Sebring JXi--good ride!) and now I'm moving back to Hawai`i and can't take both cars. It's like getting rid of a lifelong pet--you still love him dearly but you can't take care of him any more and you want desperately to find a loving home... . I got him body and paint and he looks GREAT--but then there's the instrument panel, the dash, the top, the steering...ad infinitum. I put $1800 into the outside and I have maintenance records back to when I bought him (lifetime guarantee on C6 trans, etc.) Anybody out there have an idea of what I can hope to get out of a sale and are there any online fora to find him a good home?
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There ought to be plenty there. I suspect trying to fing a camaro of that vintage that DIDN'T need a lot of work would be the challenge. I owned two from that time frame and both were shot by the time they were five years old. I imagine at 10 to 17 years old they ought to keep you busy and poor.
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They didn't look phony to me.
Here's the question: I had a 71 Mustang with a 302 engine, now I always assumed it was a 'BOSS 302'on the oil covers and the carb covers and the
intake & heads looked diferent than the regular 302 and of course the carb and exaust. It was a 'MACH I' mustang with a 'BOSS 302' engine, now my Ford guy tells me one of his friends had a MACH I with the BOSS 302 in it which was from the factory. So what I want to know is could the 'BOSS 302 engine' be special ordered in the 71-73'MACH I' mustang because I am getting hammered by stang' know it all's who say I lost my marbles.
The engine code on the 71s is the 5th digit in the VIN.
L-250 6 cyl
F-302 210HP
H-351 240HP
M-351 280HP (CJ)
R-351 330HP (BOSS)
C-429 370HP (CJ)
J-429 375HP (CJ-R)
Anyway, that's what the books say.
outdoor ads touting the '71 Boss 302 -- that's how
close it came to production. But they opted for the Boss 351 instead, fearing the 302 wouldn't be
competitive from a marketing standpoint at the very least. Considering how close it came to
production, I suppose it's possible a few Boss
302's actually escaped from the factory and somehow ended up in the hands of consumers but it would have to have been one of those backroom deals. "
Interesting.........
I need info (tidbits, links, etc.) on 1972/1973 mustang convertible.
Any info would be appreciated.
Also if anyone owns this car with, lets say, 3.02 engine i'd appreciate comments on gpm.
CJ