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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
A dealer demo should qualify for the new car programs. But, the residual will be reduced for the current mileage on the vehicle. So, you need to get a much lower selling price to offset the lower residual.
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2016 428 Gran Coupe xDrive: .00134 MF and 55% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr. $1000 option credit.
57% residual for 36/12, 58% residual for 36/10.
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57% residual for 36/12, 58% residual for 36/10.
Dealer is not allowed to modify residual ... it is set by the bank.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP: $44,950
Sale Price: $42,950
Residual: 63%
MF (with MSD's): .00099
Monthly payment: $515.
Thoughts on whether this is a good deal? What kind of discount from MSRP should I expect on a 2015 gran coupe versus 2016?
Base MF with 7 MSDs is .00085. Did you only make 5 MSDs?
If sale price is also the CAP cost, I get $477/mo.+tax.
What else is due at signing besides the MSDs and the 1st payment?
$2000 isn't much of a discount, considering the $1000 incentive. End of the model year, I'd want 7% off then subtract the $1000. So, more like $40,800 for a sale price.
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.00134 MF and 66% (24/15) or 60% (36/15). $1000 buildout cash.
Add 2% for 12K
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
$57720 MSRP
-$5220 Loyalty Discount/Dealer Discount/ $1000 Q4 Option Credit
=$52500 Sale Price/Cap Cost on lease
.00134 Money Factor
$31746 Residual (55% of MSRP)
$689.39 Total Monthly Payment with $0 down payment.
Total due at lease signing consists of:
$0 Down Payment
$0 Security Deposit
$699 Document Fee to United BMW
$925 Lease Acquisition Fee to BMW Financial Services
$689.39 First Payment on the lease
7% Tax/TAVT/Tag (this amount varies based on where you register the vehicle and if there will be a trade vehicle involved).
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Thanks
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2015 428i X-Drive Gran Coupe Demo
Miles: 3,046
MSRP: 54,095
Sales Price: $44,967
Term: 36 months
Miles: 10k p/year
Residual: $32,488 (.6006 - takes into consideration residualized miles)
Sales Tax: 7%
Money factor: .00131? I don't know because payment is off on my end
Payment: $455 (I am getting $448.10 - no taxes or fees included)
Doc fee: $395
Bank Fee: $925
Govt: $158
First month payment
Taxes
Total at signing: $3,175
These numbers were given to me, but I have two other scenarios from them printed off their blue screen. They add up from the numbers provided on the screen - but when I run the deal i am getting different taxes and payment. . They are only off by $8-10 dollars, and I still think this is a good deal, but want to know where those dollars are missing.
Appreciate if you could help me out. Thank you!
You should really ask for the adjusted CAP cost, to see what you are really paying. $7/mo. is a pretty small markup, if that's all it is... but, it might be bigger than that. Ask what money factor is being used
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Thanks - they marked it up .0001. They were very transparent about it once I asked about the discrepancy.
I dealt with the advisor for a while, and found a deal at another dealer. I wanted to do the deal at this shop. I had the salesperson, his manager, the general sales manager, and GM involved in original negotiations. They basically said they buy demo's to make a direct profit - regardless the magnitude of that profit. Brand new cars they can blow out since they it's a different structure. They ran the deal a number of different ways in front of me to get creative in order to make the deal acceptable to the GM. They only had the car for 30 days (confirmed by carfax), and it was a very desirable build. They said they understand if the deal didn't work, and if I wanted to walk. I did my research, they probably would have gotten a better deal selling it to someone else - but a bird in hand is worth two in the bush,
Gotta pick battles - especially if you come across the exact car at a price that is unlikely anywhere else. This time it was the exception, not the rule.
Thanks for following up. Still don;t know why the tax was higher, though.
2015 428i/435i Coupe 36mo/12k
2015 428i/435i GC 36mo/12k
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
58% residual on coupes. $500 buildout cash + $1000 Holiday adder
60% residual on Gran coupes. $1000 buildout cash
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2016 BWM 428i with an MSRP of $46,455 for a 36 month / 12k lease:
Dealership Deal
Cap. Cost Red - $6,273
Residual - 59%
MF - .00172
Monthly Cost (taxes incl.) - $542
Corporate Program Deal
Cap. Cost Red - $5,474
Residual - 59%
MF - .00112
Monthly Cost (taxes incl) - $523
I knew the residual and MF going into the dealership. I'm not sure if anyone has used a corporate program before at BWM, but according to my paperwork it was supposed to be additional incentives in addition to the negotiated price. The negotiated price was basically the dealership deal above that was presented over email prior to me going into the dealership; however, when I got there they treated the dealership deal and the corporate program as two totally different things (e.g. it was either one of the other). Has anyone else used a corporate program to lease/buy a BWM? I'm curious of someone else's experience or if someone knows more about these corporate programs. Anyway, as you can see they jacked up the MF on the dealership deal.
Dealers are in the business to make money. If they aren't inflating the MF, then I can (sort of) understand giving you a small discount.
However, neither deal looks all that great. What state and tax rate is this?
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2015: 58%/56% residual. $1000 buildout cash
2016: 59%/57% residual. $1250 option allowance
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MSRP: 54550
Sell Price: 46814 (they're a 'final price' dealer so no haggling...feel like it could be a little lower here but I guess it's already 14% off MSRP. And the guy was checking to see if the $1000 buildout cash you mentioned earlier was included in that $46814 price.)
Cap Cost items-
tax: 1037
registration: 400
doc fee: 129
Cap Cost: 48380
RV: 58%
MF: 0.00132
I'm in Iowa but dealer is in South Dakota...so they say they're calculating the taxes and adding them to the cap cost then they'll send the $ to Iowa to cover the taxes...
So I'm coming up with a payment in the $565 - $570 range based on a few different calculators. They're quoting me $596. Which is essentially the payment I come up with + the tax rate.
Are they double taxing me in their calculations?
I would check with the Iowa and SD departments of revenue to see how this should be handled. I wouldn't trust the dealer to know how to manage this.
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Interested in leasing a 428i Gran Coupe. Can you help provide the residuals and money factors, assuming the following:
- 2015 428i GC 24 mos, 10k miles and 12k miles
- 2015 428i GC 36 mos, 10k miles and 12k miles
- 2016 428i GC 24 mos, 10k miles and 12k miles
- 2016 428i GC 36 mos, 10k miles and 12k miles
Do 435i GC's have the same residuals and MF's?
Also, do you know whether courtesy and service vehicles are eligible for the same RF, MF, and incentives as new cars? I'm sure the answer is "it depends", but how much of a discount do you think one could get if there's between 5k and 10k miles used (even if on a 2016 model)?
To the moderators, thanks so much for all of the help over the years. These forums haven't just saved me thousands of dollars, they've also removed stress from the car shopping experience. Much appreciated...
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Get a quotes from a BMW 435 xi Executive Demo
Mileage: 3,604
MSRP: $57,245
Selling price: $45,599.99
Capped Fees: $925
Cash Cap Reduct: $1781.24
Lic:$455.25
Upfront fees: 109.00
Total Taxes: $1615.07
Drive Off: 3000.00
MF: 0.00155
Residual: 59%
Month Payment: $487.00
What do you think?
Thank You,
Kevin
Second, we don't recommend making a down payment on a lease. If the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money.
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If I do MSD, how much MF I can reduced?
Thank You again and I asked too much question in the forum.