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The 6spd V6 does 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds; about a second more with a slushbox. There is a touch of torque steer with the manual, but remarkably little given this much HP and torque on a fwd car. Nothing like a Saab or Maxima.
tell those guys that ride around in vw beetles and those bmw roadsters that they are drivin chick cars
if you like the car buy it and don't worry about what the "demographic" is
Twin muffler set-ups look and sound nice, but don't offer a real performance boost over a good single muffler system (like a real dual exhaust can).
doesn't sound like the Honda motor company I know.
is this true>
those pipes are #$^&(( ugly. don't need two of them for no reason.
Though it sure looks sporty, doesn't it? ;^)
Even if you bought a V6 model with the twin muffler set-up, you could alway go aftermarket with a large-diameter pipe and single-muffler system that would actually gain you some performance.
Coupes and age.
Coupes are not practical for carrying babies or small children. Hense, more appeal to singles(any age) or couples with no children(any age).
Most coupes are small, like Civic, RSX, Interga, Prelude, Celica etc. The Accord and Solara are mid sized coupes with headroom, comfortable front seating, usable rear seats which fold down and a trunk. Older people seem to like the room, but so do active people and tall people.
Coupes and sex.
I haven't tried it yet. As to styling, my car seems to be universally liked by males and females, both youth(16 -22) and middle aged.
MT6 driving.
The manual takes some getting used to, thats for sure. But after a while you can consistently launch fast or slow. First is steep, as expected. Second, is also steep, and it is easy to hit rev limiter. From third on it pulls hard, but shifts are smooth and your in gear longer. The shift action is short, but both the clutch and shifter are tight until broken in, so they likely will not feel right if you push them too early.
V6 The car can be driven like a commuter, but its real personality comes out when you drive hard. It is comfortable doing either, but if your not likely to push it often, the 2.4 i4 has plenty of freeway power and would likely be more than enough for most drivers.
Common If the Accord coupe was called a Prelude, it would be considered rare and different and you would here all that 400,000+ per year common crap.
The 6 and 7 generation coupes both have different styling from their sedan counterparts, and definately stand out. The interior pretty much the same (different seats).The engine and drivetrains are shared, so you get the best of both worlds (exception MT6 only on coupe)
Buy or not?
Accord are not cheap, but they are not expensive either. The packages give good value, and are prebundled with trim levels that a lot of people complain about because options you always want something in one package, but don't want (or want to pay for) another. Conversly, when you sell prebundled increases resale value. My previous Accords have been cheap to operate, and have aged well and retained their value. The 2003 are the best Accords ever.
Again, nice revue......ez
Also, unfortunately, the Noble Green color will be dropped after this year. For 2004 Deep Green Pearl will be introduced. I am not sure how it will look, but I am sure it will be a dark green.
What Honda needs is a nice plum color, like the old Dark Currant Pearl from the 1998-1999 Honda Accord EX and EXV6 models. I LOVED that color.
As I mentioned about two weeks ago, the new Accord will see many safety changes as well.
The Side curtain airbags will be standard on ALL V6 models...LXV6 or EXV6. They will also be standard on EX with Leather models, while they will be optional on regular EX with cloth models. Seems to me that it will make it easier for me to pick an EX with Leather over the regular EX. Side curtain airbags should AT least be available for the LXI4 as well.
they need the nice gold for the sedan, or light/medium blue.... am i nuts?
Because I should be ready to finance when the 2004's are begginning to show ( according to my local dealer the 2004's should be arriving sometime october - november)
I got my info from two different sources.
I saw it first at collegehillshonda.com under the future models guide.
College Hills Honda is ALWAYS right about info they put on their website.
I saw it a second time @ caranddriver.com under forums. I think the topic was "Hondas changes for 2004" I am not sure though.
Also, I know from the caranddriver.com website that the Accord V6 6spd will still not be available in the new Deep Green. As a matter of fact, the ONLY Accord coupe that will be in Deep Green will be the EXV6 5spd. automatic. LX and EX models will do without the color.
Other than the additonal side airbags on certain models and the new Deep Green Pearl, there are no other scheduled changes.
I have no idea about 2004 6spd manual coupe production.
They are already selling them at invoice in my area. I wish I wasn't buying my house. Now I will not be getting a new car until about the age of 21. I had my hopes set on getting a car since the new Maxima debuted back in 2000. I think buying the house is my important.
I think the coupe needs more colors. Graphite Pearl would look good on the new Accord EXV6 6spd.
Right now I will just have to dream about a new coupe while I drive around in my good ole 1991 Honda Accord EX.
I admit to bias because of a 12 year 100% hassle free love affair with a white 87 Accord 5 speed Coupe/Hatch - but even so, the new Accord Coupe is amazing.
Yesterday, I happened to run into a Honda test driver. We talked about the new Accords - I asked about the noticeable handling improvements - and reports of understeer I'd seen - he'd driven all the flavors - he said the sedan 'tended to fall apart' in the 'windy road' on the Honda test track (series of 25 mph hairpins) but the coupe easily pushed through at 55 mph no problem.
So, do I want Sapphire or Graphite...?
In addition to the Accord coupe, I have an Audi A4 3.0 Quattro, and although the A4 is a very sweet car (especially with the all wheel drive and V6 instead of the 1.8T), I agree with you that the Accord is a much better value overall.
Didn't mean to bash your A4. Sorry if I offended. I was a bit harsh/anti-German above (again long-held bias from a bought new '77 Rabbit nickle and diming me to death in my college days). I'm sure with the AWD and V6 the A4 is a benchmark sports sedan and a very luxurious beast - albeit in another price class altogether.
You coupe owners getting significant dings and dents?
First ding is always such a near fatal MI for me..
I sure wish Honda would put a goodlooking standard molding on the coupes so that that dings would not be such a problem. It would also break up the monotony of those doors on the new coupe.
I will go test a 4, but would appreciate your (owners') thoughts...
fwiw my current car is a 97 V6 Camry; last Accord was an 87 Hatchback (Man-4).
tia!
It has averaged 27.9 mpg for the first 5 tanks of gas. Probably only 3-4 mpg less than a 4cyl.
I like the V6 for ease of changing into a faster moving lane of traffic; getting up to the speed in the new lane without slowing someone down, and moving into these spaces before they can close.
Oh and resale is a little better too!
40 % city and 60% highway( short trip of 6 miles) gets about 23 miles to the gallon.
Where as the long trips I can return as much as 32 mpg's which is very nice for the wallet.
looking at the 2003's (and probably the 2004's), the honda coupe color choices in both 4 and 6 are terrible.... black, silver, white, and red... and the red isn't metallic i don't think... am i nuts?
If you really don't want dings, you cannot park close to other vehicles.
s852-I agree with you to some extent about the moldings. If a SUV or truck parks next to you, the door will be higer than the molding. But, they so provide some protection, which is better than nothing. And, in the case of the '03 coupe, they would break up the monotany of the doors and give them a less "flabby" look. To me, that is one of the biggest problems with the looks of this car. Of course, the best thing is to still park away from other cars. I tend to do this, but usually some idiot in a junker of some kind ends up parking next to me.
Milage in city is 4 mpg better for i4, but only 2 on highway.
My i4 standard is almost as powerful 0-60 as the old V6 auto. The new V6 has more power but I would rate the i4 adequate loaded up and on the freeway at 80 mph, but the V6 has better top end and passing gear.
I like the EX-L because I like leather seats, sunroof and alloy 16" wheels, I think it is worth the difference.
The i4 is better balanced handling wise because it is lighter.
Any other concerns?
I'm looking at suggestions for exhausts, performance tires, etc...
Also, can you add the aero kit that they offer for the V6 models, after purchase?