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There is a nice, picture-rich DIY thread on hondapilot dot org that has all the details.
- Mark
Who "installs" dynamat. Is there any kind of polymer undercoating? What about noise from the windshied? Anybody have suggestions? I'm about to take a loss on my new 2006 and buy a 4Runner
As for wind noise, maybe you have a problem with your windshield? I have a Yakima roof rack on my Pilot and wind noise up to 80 mph is not significant.
Sorry you're having so many problems. I would guess you'd take a pretty big loss on your '06 if you traded it in.
tom
Type dynamat insulation in your search on the internet and their website will come up.
The whole thing with dealers saying it's the tires is not true and balony, most people bought new tires and it still didn't solve the problem - it's not the tires in this case.
They said the right-front rim had manufacturing defect, described as "unbalanceable" slant.
Tomek
Again, all Pilot owners please post if Honda contacts you about this problem.
Again, thanks for posting.
it was the rim in my case, not a tire. I think they only changed the rim and kept the tire. From what I can see here I was lucky - it worked.
Tomek
should i go for the honda windshield, for this 2003 honda pilot, lx. or go with safelite glass. any information, concerns, problems with safelite windshield people.
thanks.
Thanks.
1) Turn up radio real loud.
2) Just cut-out a spare seatbelt from the back seat and stick it in there.
3) Buckle the seatbelt and sit on top of it.
4) Drink a can of beer, since you can divert your attention from the noise to cops.
5) Walk to the store or walk around the block.
6) Just trade the damn car in for a new one.
I hope this helps, OR you could just put the dang buckle on *rattle*
I'm sure you are just full of useful information such as this.
Yes it is tongue in cheek. In 1991 I had the misfortune of being a passenger in a head-on collision involving a drunk driver that was "just around the block" from home.
Only the drunk driver who hit us and myself of the 7 people involved did not go in the ambulance.
My friends who were in the front seat, without seat belts spent years in rehabilitation. The drivers friends were not so lucky. Every now and then I can still hear the "screams" from that night.
Sorry if my philosophy is far different from yours, sorry if my sarcasm sees as far fetched to you as trying to spend time disabling a system rather than taking the extra two seconds of putting the buckle on.
I lived that night and my stance has always been firm and I will continue to preach so others who are "lucky" to be involved in an accident can live as well. YMMV
I was hunting for useful information....not a sermon.
Now every time I hear that seat belt chime, I'll hear the screams of your oppionated sarcasm.
Thanks again, but enough already.
Can anyone help?
If you're not interested in your own safety or the safety of your passenger, then it may at least save you from getting a ticket (if you are in a state with mandatory seat belt laws)
tom
I looked in my 06 pilot manual last night and all my nimble mind could find was how to reset the change oil reminder. Which says
1. Turn the ignition on
2. Press the select/reset knob until the engine oil life indicator is displayed.
3. press the select/reset knob for more than 10 seconds. The engine oil life and the maintenance item codes will blink
4. Press the select/reset know for more than 5 seconds. The maintenance item codes will disappear.
The knob is the same one you use for the trip-o-meter.
I don't know if this does the wrench. in the manual it keeps implieng the dealer will reset it after he performs the service.
What I hear is someone too lazy to fasten a seat belt, but willing to sit around on a forum to get around a safety feature (not to mention break the law in many states).
I fully agree with the "opinionated sarcasm"
Steve, Host
Just bought a new Pilot a few weeks back and I'm wondering if anyone else has had an issue with an overflow when filling the gas tank. Not sure if I'm crazy or what but each time I fill the tank (only 3 so far), the pump shuts off and then some gas shoots out. Sort of annoying and not all that great for the person standing next to the pump or the environment. :-) If it were the same gas station, I would suspect the pump but this has been three separate stations and at least two brands.
Has anyone else experienced this? Just curious.
Thanks.
- Mark
I don't have any problems with mine either, but if it keeps up I'd go see the dealer!
Good luck!
tom
Thanks for the replies.
I'll give it a few more try's at differrent gas stations and if it continues, let the dealer take a look. I don't have this issue on other cars at the same gas stations around town, so it could be that something is not right with the venting.
With the exception of two other extremely minor concerns, we have been very happy with the Pilot. Of course it only has 600 miles on it.
The minor issues are:
Reirview mirror could stand to be tightened as it "shimies" when driving causing a distraction. If I put my finger on it it stops, so it must be just loose.
Drivers door seals make noise on rough roads. Not wind noise but a rubbing sort of noise right next to your ear. It happened on the Pilot I test drove also. Only occurs of bumpy roads (New England potholes and frostheaves) and may be cured by adjusting the door to close tighter, giving the seals some time to "break in" or turning up the awesome radio.
Thanks again,
Ken - CT
Steve, Host
One piece of advice from an older driver: chasing squeaks in a car is an acvitivy that mostly generates stomach acid. Unless they're an indicator of something really loose (e.g. a spare tire now secured properly), I have learned it's easier to turn up the stereo. It is like tinnitus (another old age thing that most of us get, sooner or later) - you can let it bug the hell out of you or you can get on with your life.
- Mark
Hope this helps!
The road noise and ride worsened slightly, but handling was much crisper (the sidewalls are stiffer) and traction seemed to improve, especially on slick surfaces.
On cars like the Pilot, OEM tires are generally biased towards low price and a soft ride, not towards good handling. The Bridgestones are VERY poorly regarded in the owner comments at the Tire Rack site, ranking something like 59th out of 64 tires surveyed. But if you're mostly interested in a quieter ride, I'd stick with OEM.
Did my tire change cure a vibration issue? Don't know as it didn't vibrate before or after. But with only 100 miles or so on the Bridgestones, I may have missed it.
If you do have a persistent vibration problem, a tire change would be very high on my list of things to try early on. The problem is that switching to a different brand of tires is not something you can typically get Honda to pick up the tab for, but I was able to swap tires for close to the difference in price and they should last much longer (LTX's are famous for getting 80K+). So rather than beat one's head against the wall arguing with the dealer and doing repeated alignments and balancing, it might be worth it to just bite the bullet, pay the extra, and get better tires from the get-go.
I've owned ten or so brands of tires in my driving career, on both two wheels and four, and the only tire brand that I've never had any problems with is Michelin. As a brand, I think they just do a better overall job of designing and manufacturing tires.
- Mark
The bar is not that the car should be as quiet and smooth as a Lexus RX300; the bar is that it should be as quiet and smooth as other new Pilots. If your car doesn't preform to spec, then Honda should fix it, but if the car performs like other Pilots, then the problems you mention should have been very apparent on any test drive. All cars have their good and bad points and somewhat higher than average wind and road noise is a problem that is mentioned in almost every Pilot review.
- Mark
One thing I've noticed on mine is that the road noise problem is very dependent on road texture. On most roads, my Pilot (with Michelins) seems about on par with most SUVs, perhaps slightly noisier. But get it on certain coarse pavement textures and it is pretty bad. And the stock stereo is marginal, so you really notice that you have to crank the volume way up to overcome things when the road is very coarse.
My guess is that you are probably just experiencing noisier roads that when you test drove the car (especially if you let the salesman choose the test drive roads - they're pretty smart in choosing routes that hide the weaknesses of any vehicle), and if you came from an RX300, you're bar may be pretty high. And once you get sensitized to the problem, it becomes amplified.
If you're "incredibly sensitive" to this sort of thing, I also think you might have chosen the wrong SUV - road noise is probably the weakest area of the Pilot.
If there is something wrong with your car, good luck getting it fixed. And/or I hope the tire change helps - it may not as I think the Michelins on mine made it slightly worse, although the handling benefits were dramatic.
- Mark
Sorry you regret you purchase, but you must have known they are different. Maybe if you would have compared an Acura MDX to the RX 300 (although the Lexus is still quieter) it would be more fair.
You can install lots of soundproofing- in the doors, wheelwells, floor, and ceiling- which would probably help. I almost did this, but other than on rough roads, don't have a problem with the noise of the Pilot, and we don't have to turn our stereo on full blast.
tom
Live and learn.