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'09 328 xi Sedan
Metallic paint
Auto Transmission
Xenon headlights
ipod integrator
fold down seats
MSRP - $39,675
Dealer sale price - $38,500
Monthly payment for 36 month lease 12k miles and $3k down payment - $485.20.
Is that a good deal?!! Thanks...
I think you can do better on the selling price, but I need some more information to make an educated decision.
Are you paying your sales tax upfront or is it being rolled-into your monthly payment?
Can you please provide a break-down of your $3000 down payment?
Thanks,
Matt
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Ok, so this is where I get a little confused and I admit I should have pressed for more details/clarity when the dealer was throwing out numbers at me. But I admit I was kinda sitting there pondering the performance/handling rather than paying close enough attention to the numbers...
From the notes I have scribbled down in front of me I have the "Cost of Purchase" as $2274 which will be in addition to the $3000 down payment I am prepared to make. Regards sales tax...hmm...I believe it is part of the final monthly figure of $485.20...does any of that make sense?! Thanks for helping me understand...I'm completely useless in front of a car salesman for some reason!
What dealer in CT are you working with. I live in the state as well. Keep in mind that there is a $299 doc fee. I've purchased my last several cars in NY to avoid this among other junk charges.
The tax in CT is rolled into the monthly payment, it should be reflected in what you received. However, you really need to clarify.
Ask for a complete break down of your costs at inception. Also ask for the invoice price, residual value, money factor, etc.
Yes, I really did need to clarify and spend some time working it out. Which I did yesterday. Basically the deal I've been offered is:
328xdrive
Sale Price: $38,500
Lease Period: 3 yrs @ 12k miles/yr
Monthly Payment: $485.20
Money due at inception: $3k
I have asked them to clarify what exactly the money at inception is. The response I got was first month payment, m/v charges & security deposit. That doesn't give me all the info I need as it still seems a little high. I would have thought that all those charges would amount to something around 1880 bucks so not sure where the other 1200 bucks to take it up to $3k is coming from. I asked for a detailed breakdown but so far not forthcoming. I am a little wary of doing this deal and will now shop around having got a lot more insight on the process from this board. Would still appreciate any feedback on this offer. Is it a decent deal? Thanks...
First off I would like to thank you all for all of the hard work that is put in to this forum. It has been extremely helpful for researching a new car lease.
I am looking at doing a 3 year lease for a 2009 335i Sedan and would like your opinions on the offer I was given below:
2009 BMW 335i Sedan
MSRP $49,050
Sale Price $47,650
Sales Tax $0 (BMW will cover sales tax for the month of December)
Lease Term 12k miles / 36 months
Residual 62%
Interest Rate 2.30%
Misc fees $725 Acquisition, $130 Doc Fee (There may be another <$100 fee or two I am missing)
Monthly Payment $680 per month
I would appreciate anyone's opinion on the terms above.
Thanks,
IChoChoChooseU
On your deal - do you know what the invoice price is? I'm seeing others getting invoice and I've been quoted $500 over invoice since November. I would expect about a $3500 difference from MSRP, but that's just a guess without knowing the options.Is it possible they buried the sales tax benefit in there?
Thanks,
ahdanna
Do you know if 'Sales Tax $0 (BMW will cover sales tax for the month of December) ' apply to all 3 series in purchase? I have just purchased my 328ci two days ago. But dealer didn't mention it to me at all. Please let me know as soon as you can. Thanks.
BMW North America just purchased 15 acres to store all the vehicles that they can't sell and it's too expensive to hold in port. Don't buyers of big ticket items realize that the bargaining power is with the consumer right now?
With the sales environment as terrible as it has been, what has been the experience of others in getting the negotiated value down to move the car off the lot, particularly in SE states (GA, FL) where the economy is more than awful? I would think they'll do anything to create lot space.
Also, what are current residual rates and money factor rates on 3yr/36 mos leases?
Thanks!
It isn't restricted to BMW..
Also... lease questions belong in the 3-series Lease Questions forum...
Thanks!
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Do you have a link to that information?
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Silver, premium + sports + navigation + cold weather + iPod + xm sat
500 over invoice
Fantastic car.
Pleasant buying experience at Wagner BMW in Shrewsbury, MA.
I might have gotten a better deal if I waited a couple of months, but my old car was dying, and they located a car at a nearby dealership with exactly all the options and color I was looking for (except the xm sat - total waste IMO). No regrets.
Did your dealer add Training (180), Advertising(250) and paint (500) to your invoice? I am assuming your invoice number does not include those and is the number you get from the edmunds calculation.
My dealer added those fees to his offer price. I don't see buyers on this forum are paying those. Am I right?
Simply put, BMW will pay for the sales tax on your new vehicle lease for the month of December. I believe they set aside a fixed amount of money to do this discount, so if they run out of money before the month ends you not receive this discount.
To get invoice pricing, use www.edmunds.com or cars.msn.com and build your vehicle. It will list invoice and MSRP. You can calculate sales tax once you know the invoice price. Ichochochooseu
Is this a good deal?
knock off 1200 of the invoice and let the dealer know that this is how much u r willing to pay and wait till he gets back.
What should I pay for a 2009 BMW 335i 4dr with nav system and satellite radio, etc.?
Thanks
How did the shop "screw" you?
Which gasket failed?
How long did you drive it after the failure?
If you ran the car without oil or coolant for any period of time you almost certainly did destroy your engine...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Yes I had to add training + MACO (or some such thing) + metallic paint to the invoice price shown by edmunds. It was 500 over that sum.
My Mom has an '08 328xi w/ run flat tires and she hasn't experienced any noticable difference in tire noise. She says the car rides too harsh. It might be the run flat tires or the fact that she went from an '05 E60 530i to the '08 328xi.
If you so get a flat, then you are going to be out some cash. Run Flat tires are more expensive than conventional tires. Most shops won't repair a runflat tire (for liability purposes), so a flat means you don't get stuck on the side of the road, but you will have to eat the cost of a new tire. Since tires should ALWAYS be replaced in pairs, you will be out the cost of 2 new runflat tires.
Other costs:
Are you buying or leasing? If you're leasing, then all you have to worry about is scheduled maintenance. The car is BMW's problem at the end of the lease. If you are buying, then I would do a break in service (like they give the M cars at 1200 miles), then at least double BMW's recommended service intervals. I'd have the brake fluid and tranny fluid flushed every couple years. Alignments aren't covered.
No offense to your Saab ( I used to have an '00 9-3), but a BMW 1 series or 3 series on wooden wagon wheels is a superior driving car to your 9-3 convertible.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
BMWs in my experience do not need an alignment. Hard driving, track driving etc and each time I tried to get an alignment I was told the car is within spec, save the money.
Why would the rate jump up so dramatically? Is there anything I can do about it? One dealer actually quoted me a 2008 335i with lower payments than this -- to me this doesn't make any sense. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
BMW FS will only offer it's best subvented lease rates on new 2008 and 2009 cars. The only time BMWFS offers low interest rates on used cars is when they want to move certain years and models of CPO units- and that money is for loans, not leases. If you like the car you have, buy it. Otherwise, rent the 2008.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
I am looking for the best lease (36 mos, 12k/yr.) deal on the following car:
2009 328i w/ X drive
6 speed manual
Heated seats
iPod adapter
(willing to consider power seats, cold weather pkg instead of heated seats if price is right)
The MF I was quoted earlier this month was .0016 and residual of 62%. Are these still correct and until when?
One dealer quoted a sell price of $36,900 (MSRP $38,670) on one with metallic paint, cold weather and power seats (payment incl. tax about $534 a month with only 1st payment and DMV fees down). When I didn't respond, he just emailed asking "What would it take to get this done today?" so I want to squeeze hard and make it hurt! :-)
What should I ask for?
Invoice Price for your configuration is $36,148.
Has anyone been able to get a 2009 with manual at invoice or lower?
A little off topic, but what are your thoughts on a 328i/335i with snow tires versus a 328xi/335xi? I have read mixed things about performance of these RWD vehicles in the snow and slick roads. I am coming from an AWD A4 that can go anywhere, but have driven older RWD (slowly and stressfully) in the snow before. I would love to have the performance benefits of a RWD if snow tires will allow me to get around during the 4-5 months when they might be needed.
Really need your help with a 2009 328i lease in the DFW area. Looking at a loaded 2009 328i. The MSRP is about $44k. The dealer is quoting a .00205 MF and 62% residual on a 3 yr/36k lease. They are not really coming down on the price of the car much. What should i expect to pay for a lease on this car under the terms mentioned above? The dealer came down to $621/month with $1000 cash down (includes first month payment). I think the MF is still high. Looks like it should be around .0015 based on some quotes in this forum.
Your help is greatly appreciated!!!
Happy Holidays!
Here it is:
premium pkg, sports pkg, lether seat, heated front, navi, ipod, sports steering and paddle. Out door price before tax and other fees: $46000
2008 328i Coupe
Montego Blue / Gray / Gray Poplar Wood
Premium pkg
Sport pkg
Xenon lamps
Heated Seats
Park Distance Control
Paddle Shifters
Exec demo with 10,000 miles (BMW NA Corp car). Never was titled so qualified for new car 0.9% financing. Sale price: $33,500 + ttl @ 0.9%... in-service date of 2/08 so still has 3 years of warranty + ultimate service. MSRP sticker: $44k.
Very happy with the car.. :shades: got a flat on the next day so lucky I had purchased Tire/Wheel insurance. Tire replacement was "free" or covered under this insurance.
Feels like I got a brand new car (amazing/mint condition) but saved mucho $ and got 0.9%!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Happy Holidays.
It won't affect cars already at the dealership..
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limu, congrats on your deal! Sounds like you got a winner. I am hoping to finalize mine before the new year.
Does anyone know what is the typical change to residuals when the calendar year changes? Is it recommended to try to close a deal before year end for any particular reason?
Happy holidays everyone.
I am looking at doing a deal at Wagner as well. Did they include any training and/or advertising fees in their invoice cost? If so, how much?
Thks
David T
Premium
Sport
Xenon
Purchase price was $26,000.00. With the .9% financing over 60 months and BMW Financial making the first two payments, I am effectively not paying interest.
This is my first BMW. What an amazing automobile.