Kia Sorento Maintenance and Repair

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  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    What address are you using to get in touch with KIA. I tried writing them a couple of notes but never got any response. Do you write them or call them. I want to give them some cues on what owners would like improved on the next Sorento for updates. such as a fog lamp indicator or a band or strap on the visor to hold mail in place and a better light in the glove box. A light that shuts off like a refridgerator door. Ever notice that when you turn on the headlight the glove box light comes on and stays on. Try putting some chocolate in there and watch it melt.
  • esskayesskay Member Posts: 1
    Hi guys

    Must be the furtherest Sorento owner in this discussion group.

    Have had a 04 Sorento Ex for a few weeks now and am noticing a distinct vibration at 100-120ks. This reduces at speeds exceeding 120. Have heard something about air pressures affecting this but the vibration is the same at all pressures from 30 -40 psi.
    The dealer tried to balance/align the wheels but I am not sure he did a good job.

    Suggestions? I have done about 4000 ks and it a great car otherwise.

    esskay
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    hciaffa - I sent email to Kia last week about the oil leak via their website. You go to the Kia website and click on KIA OWNERS, then click on Contact Kia. You need to registered with the Consumer Assistant Center if you have not done so. Anyway, someone from Kia called me yesterday about my complaint. Like the service manager said, Kia is only cover this unless this is a manufacturer defect and not environmental related problem. There is no damage to the car (oil level was full and no engine light on) but I paid for an oil change. But who know what is going to happen if I didn't see the oil residue on my driveway. And I am going to call them again because I still think Kia or the dealer should take care of it. I think the oil filter was the blame. I agree with you about the lights in Sorento. I also drive a Camry with foglights. There is not indicator. The only interior update that I saw on '04 Sorento is a new lock on the top level of the center console/armrest.

    esskay - The causes for the vibration that I have seen in this board are: wrong tire pressure, incorrect wheel alignment & balance, exceed drive shaft/axle under seal, and incorrect drive shaft position. Have your dealer look at these areas.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I had the same problem with my Sorento and was told that it was a faulty oil filter. I was not charged for the oil change. I do have a problem with the door panels that I noted in entry 663 - how about you?

    Frank
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I don't have problem with the door panel even during this extreme cold weather here. And I am continue to contact Kia for a reimbursement for the oil change because of the bad oil filter. I had the same cold winter last year. And everything was fine. My dealer always take care of everything even rentals and light bulbs (for the first year of adjustment period), but not for this time. What's that number about?
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    the number I listed refers to my posting # earlier which explains the problem I have with the doors
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I have a meeting with the Kia rep. on wed. if you have pixs of your vehicle and want to share them please email me. my email is in my profile.

    frank
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Is that possible to email those pictures to me? Probably some before & after pictures.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi lok888

    I have email some pixs of my vehicle showing the impressions, now that it has warmed up here in NJ the impressions have seemed to disappear.

    let me know if you have observed a similar problem
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I am having a problem when open up your image file. I am asking for someone to help. I have no problem with door panel even during the frigid weather last week. I think we hit the record low at -7F (plus wind chill) in one morning last week. It is back to 20s to 30s here in MA. I am still waiting for a response from Kia about the oil leak (faulty oil filter). And I am interested to hear what your Kia rep say. They need to find solution to these cold weather related problem.
  • ivygrnsorentoivygrnsorento Member Posts: 119
    I will send you some pics as soon as it clears up and I can take a few. Its snowing right now...pretty cruddy out.

    I have any appointment with my service department next Monday to go over this issue. Wish me luck, as I do for you! Keep me updated on what happens on your end. I'm very curious what Kia will have to say about this.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    good luck, i'm not sure what they can do. today temperatures reached mid-30 and sunny . i had no problems with the impressions in the door panels. i will keep you informed.
  • lilac0422lilac0422 Member Posts: 51
    Could you email me a picture so I can better understand what I should look for? I haven't noticed anything yet but I will certainly be on the lookout now. Thanks
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    the pixs are in your mail . let me know if can open it.

    frank
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    Well, I met with regional Kia representative this morning and gave him everything I had. He was amazed to see the impressions on all four of the outer door panels. This is the first time he has heard of this problem. I showed him other vehicles on the dealership lot that had the same problem. He informed me that he would have to address this matter with the Kia engineers and will have to get back to me. This may take some time.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    I am interested in seeing the photos as well. Can you please send a set to my email address, it's in my profile. I haven't noticed anything like this on my 03. What model year is yours. But I am really interested in this problem. Thanks
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    My Sorento is 2003. I purchased it in Dec. of 2002 and did not notice the problem until Jan 2004. I will send you pixs of my vehicle.

    Frank
  • shairkhanshairkhan Member Posts: 28
    Is it possible to post these photos on this board, so that everyone can see what exactly is this unusual problem.

    Thanks.

    Shair A. Khan
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I dont know how to attach a photo in this room
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Click on the "Town Hall Help" link at the top left of this page for instructions on how to post a picture.

    tidester, host
  • lilac0422lilac0422 Member Posts: 51
    I was able to open the pics and I haven't seen anything like that before. It is very easy to see on your Silver Sorento. Please keep us all informed.
  • jdesjardinsjdesjardins Member Posts: 24
    First the cold weather markings...

    I may be wrong here but not having pics I suspect what you are seeing is just the outline of reenforcing cross members inside the door panels.

    As can sometimes be seen on the hood, the outline of the internal shows up as a skeleton layout. The cold snaps this winter have be record braking and some of you in the banana belts may have been subjected to "normal for us Canucks"
     -20 or -40 F temps.

    The extra mass of steel behind the door panels getting at -30 F causes outside air humidity to condensate more at the solder points and anywhere steel meets steel hence... the funny outlines. Actually you may see those more on one side of the car than the other depending on wind direction and speed which causes more humid air to come in contact with the frigid steel mass.

     I do not think this is going to be a serious issue with Kia engineers. As I said... these outlines
    show up on any car make... possibly more up here in cold country.

    Now for vibrations above 60mph (100KMH).. Last week I took my new LX 2004 to 72mph and nothing.. no vibs and I don't plan to go much higher...ever.... unless I it I95 going to Florida if and when all the vans fly by me in SC and GA !! :-)

    anxious to see KIa comments on the markings!!
  • slan_canadaslan_canada Member Posts: 54
    I had the oil residue myself last year on my driveway.

    To resolve the problem, I asked my dealer that they install an AMSOIL filter... I did not saw any oil residue since !

    I even read a french review on the Sorento where the guy told that the OEM oil filer is a cheap one (he also has the oil residue). He suggest a better quality oil filter.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    I haven't received the pictures yet, still interested. I have a 03 and we purchased in early Nov. of 03. Now as jdesjardins mentions this could be just the moisture out lines of the the metal struts. But did you say that there were indentations of the metal on the doors. It could be that the sheet metal of the door panels had constricted becasuse of the side protection braces causing this and now that it has warmed up the metal may have relaxed enough. Strange things happen to autos when it get cold outside.
  • sonnyrockersonnyrocker Member Posts: 127
    I am concerned with this issue. It gets pretty cold here in St. Louis. Can someone send me some pics of these impressions?
    my e-mail address is:
    sonny_6237@yahoo.com

    Thanks.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I went into your profile and could not see your email address. I tried to place a pix in this forum, but had a hard time following the help instructions. email me your address and I'll forward you my pixs

    Frank
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I have sent you my pixs

    frank
  • sonnyrockersonnyrocker Member Posts: 127
    I got your pics. Thanks!
    It's difficult with the reflection of the street, I can see the impression. I wonder what the Kia rep would tell you. It seems that you are not the only one who has this problem if the cars at the dealer are showing them as well. What did the dealer has to say? For a dealer who is selling Kia, I don't think that they would be happy to find these impressions on the cars. This issue would not be taken lightly.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    hi

    i met the kia rep yesterday and was told that he needed to address this issue with their engineers. the dealer had no comment.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I read your posting and must say that you are probably right on the money with your information. But I also had a 2000 Honda Odyssey van and a 2001 Dodge Intrepid both along side the Kia and did not notice any problems with impressions on those door panels. Also, temperatures have reached in the mid to hi 30s and I can still slightly see the impressions.
  • mcclutzmcclutz Member Posts: 13
    I too had oil residue, albeit not very much, not enough to make any major change in the level to cause the light to come on. I mentioned it to my dealer when going for my scheduled oil change. As it turns out the gasket on the oil pan was cracked, causing the leak. I suspect your dealers may mention "environment" etc, when it is really the gasket.

    My dealer covered it under warranty.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    slan and mcclutz - It is interesting to see that I am not the only who has an oil leak problem because of the faulty Kia OEM oil filter. I remember folks here were talking about the OEM brake pads as well. I guess Kia must pay more attention on their pasts and their part suppliers. Anyway, temparture was below freezing here in MA in the last two weeks. And I have not seen any oil residue after the oil change. I think the oil filter is the problem and not the oil gasket. In the meanwhile, I am continue to flight with Kia to pay for this oil change.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    My address is there but maybe it is not viewer allowed. Any way sendit to my home email address
    longbow48@aol.com. Thanks I appreciate it.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I have sent the pixs.

    Frank
  • sonnyrockersonnyrocker Member Posts: 127
    I have the LX model, and there are supposed to be 8 speakers. I can only locate 6. 2 bass speakers on the front driver and front passenger side. 2 treble, small speakers on the front driver and front passenger side. 2 more on the door panel on the back passenger roll. Where is the other 2? I thought they might be on the back of the trunk, but I can't find them.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Two tweeters at the A-pillar (side mirror), and 6 & 3/4" speakers on each door. I think Kia and other auto markers count two speakers (woofer and mid-range) when they are on the same unit. By the way, I have the luxury package. And I have 10 speakers: 2 tweeters and 6 & 3/4" speakers on each door (actually 2 speakers on each door).
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    joboo1 & ivygrnsorento - I may have the case as you both do. I thought I only have the faulty oil filter (oil leak during frigid temparture) when joboo first started the topic.

    I left the Home Depot store last night at dust. The temparture was in upper teens and windy. I walked to my car and noticed a straight line on each left driver and passenger door panel. I looked the right side and saw the same thing. It was the same image which I saw from joboo's email. It's just like the impression of the door reinforcement bars. However, my car was quite dirty because of the dust and road salt on my car. But the image was quite impressed even under the parking lot lights.

    I woke up this morning (temp. = low 20s) and can't see the impression. I will pay close attention to this. I first need a car wash and a camera. Then I will prepare to contact Kia. I only have a few years old digital camera and a regular 35mm camera. I hope I can document this again on picture.

    hicaffa and folks in cold climate area - This could be a wide spread problem for some Sorento owners. We probably need to alert our Kia service people and Kia about this.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    Please notify your regional kia rep and get a kia case #. this can be done by contacting the kia 800#. Your dealership should be able to tell you when the kia rep. will be at the dealership. Please let me know what happens. 2003 Sorento owners and possibly 2004 owners, should carefully look at their vehicles after a cold spell and see if they notice any impressions or outlines of the reinforcement bars in the door panels. If you are not sure what to look for please let me know and ill forward you photos.

    thanks

    Frank
  • slan_canadaslan_canada Member Posts: 54
    Hi

    Interested to see the photos. Email me them at diversmail@canada.com

    I have my Sorento since September 2002 and I never saw anything suspected on my doors panel.

    Anyway, I will take a particular attention to this now.

    Thanks in advance for the photos.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I have emailed you the pixs
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    joboo1 - When did you first notice this? I only paid attention to this after you first started the discussion last week. I saw this last night. And I did not look at the car very closely because of a lack of cleanness of it. I probably email them first, to start with an open case. Will they schedule a Kia rep (a regional rep?) to my local for meeting? BTW, they still own me an oil change.

    slan - It is surprised that you didn't notice this yet. It looks like you are living in a much colder area than me. The daytime high here is 12F. It will be a negative reading tonight.
  • joboo1joboo1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi

    I first noticed the problem on 1/10/04, the same day I noticed the puddle of oil in my driveway due to the faulty oil filter. The temperature that night dropped to below 0 with the wind chill factor. I have noticed the impressions ever since. As the temperature rises the impressions seem to go away, but not completely. I first told the dealership service manager of the door panels while I was getting my free oil change. They told me to contact Kia Customer Service. The following Mon. I contacted the Kia 800# and received a case #. Both the Kia Customer Rep. and the dealership service manager called me to let me know when the regional Kia service Rep. would be at my dealership. Each region of the country will have a # of Kia service rep. in the area to inspect problems with their vehicles. I am also trying to have them pay for someone to clean the oil stain on my new driveway. I used some stuff to absorb the oil, but it left a stain.

    The reg. Kia service rep. will come to your dealership to inspect the vehicle.

    Frank
  • slan_canadaslan_canada Member Posts: 54
    Hi

    I just took a look at the photos (thanks frank). I live in Quebec, so it's very cold here. We have some -10, -20 and -30 degree celcius. I never saw that on my Sorento. It's a black one. I don't know if the color of the Sorento can play a role.

    I bought one of the first Sorentos available on the market (sept. 2002).
  • sonnyrockersonnyrocker Member Posts: 127
    About the speakers, I still don't understand. EX is supposed to have 10 and LX has 8. I have the LX.
    Two tweeters at the A-pillar (side mirror), plus one speaker on each door makes 6 speakers total. Since I have the LX and it should have 8 speakers. If I count 2 speakers in one of the speaker on the door, I would have 10 speakers which is not right for the LX. It doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain in details? Sorry to be a pest :(
    BTW, I went to an Auto show and I stumped the entire Kia team on my question about the speakers. No one knew the answer. No one knew where the other 2 speakers are located (8 speakers, found 6)
  • slan_canadaslan_canada Member Posts: 54
    LX • Speakers: 8 (6 locations, 2 double cones front)

    EX • Speakers: 10 (6 locations, 4 double cone)

    Source: http://www.kia.ca/specs.asp?lang=en&plate=sorento
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    sonnyrocker - I think you already got the answer from slan.

    slan - The U.S. sales brochure don't give much explanation on speakers. It just said 8 speakers on LX and 10 speakers on EX.

    About the door panel deformation, I only saw it once on my Sorento last week. BTW, mine is gold beige. And it was dust with some lights in the parking lot. I don't see that again for the last few days. And it must be super cold when it's occurred.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    I took a look at the photos this weekend and they do give the impression of some panel stretching at the doors. I think the idea of it being condensation just went out the door. The identation line seem quite pronounced. Did you try to run your hand across them to see how deep they go. I still think that the poor panel skins are contracting due to it being cold and then expanding as it warms up to a normal position. I have not noticed this at all as of yet and this is the 2nd winter for our Sorento. Though we do garage it at night but my wife has not noticed it when she leaves work to come home. I'll try to keep a closer eye on it.
  • andrewzandrewz Member Posts: 5
    Hey guys,

    I was wondering if anyone of you have experienced a grinding sound that occurs as soon as the engine turns over when it has been sitting in really cold weather over-night. It only happens when the truck is really cold. It grinds for less than one sec then goes away. Has anyone had this happen to them?

    Just so you know, I don't seem to have the problem with the door panels and I leave my truck outside in some pretty cold weather.

    AndrewZ
  • sonnyrockersonnyrocker Member Posts: 127
    I don't know about cold start, but you should hear the 'tik-tik' sound when you start your car going reverse. That's when the ABS kick in. I wouldn't worry about it if your car has ABS, that's normal.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    andrew - I am not sure but I may hear some noise too. It definitely not the ABS self-check. Again, I am not so sure. And I will try it again tomorrow morning.
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