2013 and earlier-Honda CR-V Prices Paid and Buying Experience

rhodyv

It's not bad. You may be able to do a few hundred better searching around New England or haggling to death, but if you have an honest dealer who otherwise isnt screwing you around, maybe ask for a slight push down, but just take it otherwise.

jgreer

sle,

I would say, try to get them to come down a few hundred dollars. But, if they won't budge, you can always try to negotiate free maintenance and/or details/car washes (if they are close).

It never hurts to ask.

Greer

jamesb74

Got an offer from an independent broker for CR-V EX auto no accessories - $22,700. This is before tax, tags, title, etc. We can probably purchase in either Delaware or Pennsylvania as we are right on the line. Any advice on purchasing from different states or how to figure out where the better place to purchase would be?? We do NOT have to finance through the dealership. Thanks

beenhadhonda

kyfdx,
Ok, while I'm waiting for a reply from Car_man I did some more research and found that according to Edmunds.com's Finance Rate Estimator, I should get a rate of 6.15% on a 48 month lease. I rate Platinum on the"Credit Tier". So my original thoughts of what I thought my rate should have been was a little low, but still, 7.56% is very high, and I'm still paying approx. $20 more a month than I should be.
$960 over the term.

kyfdx

Edmunds estimator uses figures from independent banks.. it still won't tell you what AHFC uses..

Either way, I doubt you'll have any recourse.. If I recall, your contract only shows the dollar amounts, the term and mileage, and your payment..

Once you agree to that, how they arrived at the numbers becomes contractually immaterial..

I made the same mistake once.. negotiated all of the numbers, then realized after I got home that the payment was $25/mo. too high.. In my case, it was purely a mistake by the finance guy... But, the new car manager that did my deal, rather than try to fix it, offered to service it for free, until the $900 difference was made up... Every time I went in for service, I just went to see him, and he went back and they charged it off to advertising or something like that..

I'm not suggesting they will do that for you... That was my third straight Accord lease from the same manager, and he knew I didn't get what we negotiated..

Unfortunately, on a lease... the only numbers that matter in the end, are the monthly payment, the length and mileage of the lease, and the due at signing.. All other numbers used to get to that point mean nothing, once the contract is signed. It isn't like a finance contract, where they list the APR..

regards,
kyfdx

gr8smile1966

greer:

Thanks for the input... now for the good news-- the dealership is taking back the defective paint job car and giving me a new one... :shades: you can be sure that this time we won't drive it off the lot until it proves to be in perfect condition.... I ended up emailing my story to the general manager (to save the time of telling it to him in person) and this morning when he called the decision to replace the car had been made. I'm so happy! I can't wait to start enjoying my CR-V!! I just hope that now I didn't get one that has the PTTR problem!!!

jgreer

gr8smile1966,

That's awesome I'm SO glad that all worked out for you!

You don't have to worry about getting a car with the PTTR, just tell them that you want to test drive it before you "officially" take possession of it.

I love happy endings!

Greer

ggoom

I am trying to buy CRV LX 4WD, but the dealer in my town doesn’t have one, and is willing to locate one. It is likely to locate the car from a big city about 120 miles away, and an employee of dealership will drive the car to this location. Or, I can order a car at the end of May (their next ordering period) and it will arrive sometime June or July. The price $20,200 including destination charge before tax (they do not charge any dealer fees) looks pretty good.

Of course, I prefer to have a car sooner although I can wait. However, I am worrying about somebody driving a new car for 120 miles with over 70 mph (someone told me not to drive too fast for a while for a brand new car. Is it a valid argument??) and having a car potentially with any issue. It will be more difficult for me to reject a car even with PTTR in this case, I think. What choice would you recommend? Thank you very much in advance.

isellhondas

To drive or even ride in my first CRV that pulls to the right.

jsalz

Hi james74

$22,700 is ok at best for a CR-V EX, I would not do it!

According to Intellichoice the target price for the EX is around $22,000. Seeing that you are in the tristate area I would even say that you can get it for invoice which is $21,700. Thats a clean $1000 you can keep for yourself, if you email a few dealers with the price you will buy for.

check out this site:

http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/16311/type/new

isellhondas

You are worrying for no reason. Your CRV will be just fine and I doubt VERY seriously if it'll pull to the right.

ggoom

isellhondas,

You are right, I think it is unlikely to have PTTR. But, isn't there a good chance to receive a CRV that another dealer wants to remove for whatever reason in this case? Thanks for your opinion.

ggoom

jgreer

ggoom,

If you're really worried about it, why not email the dealerships in the metropolitan area that your local dealer is likely to locate the car and see if you can work a deal with them, and go pick it up.

By the way, from what I've been told, the argument that a new car needs a "break in" period used to be valid (I think in the 1980s), but isn't the case anymore.

Did you know that your CRV's first recommended oil change is at 10,000 miles?

Things have changed a bit

Greer

jamesb74

Thanks so much for your response and the link for intellichoice. This was not a website I was familiar with before your e-mail and I've already gotten some good information off of their site. We did get another dealer to offer us $22,400 (before tax, tag, title). The $22,000 target price on Intellichoice did not include the $515 destination charge. Isn't this something that every dealer must charge on every vehicle? Do you know what "dealer holdback" is? Intellichoice lists the dealer holdback on this vehicle as $471. Thanks again for your input.

patm

I decided on the SE. I've got a good price, verbally, but my dealership does not have my first choice color in stock. I haven't signed anything yet. Do I sign for a vehicle I haven't laid eyes on? Can I put a restriction with my signature, like pending final approval? I don't know if they are trading with another dealer and driving it in. My son says have it brought in on a flat bed rather than have someone drive it in. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks :confuse:

isellhondas

Again, you are worrying over nothing! The CRV will be just fine!

isellhondas

I'm glad my customes don't worry themselves like some people here do!

Yes, you can sign for a vechicle you haven't seen! Once it arrives, you should inspect it and even drive it if you want to. If something is wrong, you can cancel the order. In my ten year career, I have sold a LOT of dealer traded cars and NEVER have I had a problem.

Doubtful a dealer will have a flat bed trailer but a very few do. Most stores use retired people who do the driving. you'll be just fine...relax!

jamesb74

OK. Just purchased a EX in Sahara Sand from a local dealer. Out the door price (vehicle + tax, tag, title, document fee) was $23,227.00. My husband did want to purchase Honda Care and the tire service agreement which added $1,255.00 onto the final price above, but he felt it was worth it. 7 years/75,000 miles of total warranty coverage including road side assistance, rental car, etc., and 5 years of tires, wheels, etc. (towing, etc.) warranty no matter what you run over. We feel pretty good about the price we got ($22,400) especially considering it was $400+ less than Edmunds TMV.

goatruckus

Chose Satin Silver because my wife and I couldn't agree on any other colors. I've seen some people on the forums getting better deals, but these guys would not budge - they wouldn't even discuss free oil changes. They then told me a few misleading things about extended warranties and offered me a third party deal from API for $1600 which I did not take. BTW this price was only $120 less than I got from the same dealer via an email quote in which I didn't even try to bargain.

Anyone else with Boston area experience out there? Is this a decent deal?

$21,961 base+dest (incl. cargo tray, splash guards & wheel locks)
$1,098 tax
$120 registration, plates....govt stuff
$198 docs fee
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$23,377
plus first service visit for free ($29.95 value)

jake14

Just bought a 2005 CR-V LX 4WD.

19,375 (incl. destination)
300 doc & reg. fees
+ 5% mass tax.

This seems good to me. Do you agree?

bob05

Are you kidding? If your figures are accurate, that's the best
deal I've seen for any location. Which dealer?

soldoncrv

That price is indeed a great deal. We were just congratulating ourselves on getting the CR-V LX 2WD at $19,000 including destination fee. We paid $173 below invoice. But Jake14 paid $905 below invoice. Given that the dealer holdback and advertising fee refunded to the dealer upon sale is around $1070 (based on Intellichoice data), the dealer is losing money on that one. Good work Jake!

We live in Southern California and do not drive to ski country, so for us the better mileage on the 2WD and reduced chance of maintenance on another sub-system seemed to suit our needs and budget better than the 4WD.

One thing to keep in mind regarding current year prices is that they are bound to decline as the next year's models come closer to market. This is because whether or not it is driven, a 2005 car depreciates just by sitting on the lot. If you plan to keep the car for a long time, just buy it near the end of the model year and of course on the last day of the month!

We think the Honda CR-V is the best car for the money out there. Safety, reliability, features, are all there. BTW, Consumer's Guide agrees, giving it the highest rating in its class (10 out of 10).

Thanks to everyone on this chat whose advice helped us with this purchase.

john171

Could you provide the dealer name and salesperson's name? Thanks

Kirstie_H

Please don't ask for salespeople's names - they're not allowed (see lettering above the "post a message box").

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jake14

Bernardi Honda in Natick. Out-the-door price was 20,628

chiefjs

I just bought a 05 CRV-SE Pewter Pearl loaded with accessories for $28,800.

This is about 5-6% above dealer cost (which is about $700 below invoice), including accessories. The retail cost of the accessories were about $5,000 un-installed.

I know another poster talked about saving by buying the accessories elsewhere and installing them myself. I do not have the time, nor the talent to do so. Plus, I want the items under warranty.

I have not bought a car in a long time, so I wanted all the bells and whistles.

jsalz

Just bought a CR-V SE in the Pewter Pearl for $25,023 out the door. Very happy with it. Didn't get any accessories, maybe will pick up the rubber floor mats later on. I bought it in NJ. Here's how it broke down:

Price 22,540.90
Dest. 515
Reg./Tags 249
Tire tax 7.50
Doc Fee 198
Window Etch crap 129
Tax 1,383.60
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Total 25,023

Thanks for all the great information everyone!

I have have a question though, my sales person took the window sticker off my car and said it was because the insurance needed a copy. I didn't get it back, but I remember reading that state law says that only the owner can take off the window sticker. The car had only 6 miles on it but I don't know why he didn't give it back after I asked him for it. Not a big deal just curious.

tom44

Hi soldoncrv,
Could you please let me know your dealer, I am also in southern california and
looking for CRV LX 2WD.
Thanks

bowled_over

I purchased a new Honda CR-V. The dealer tried to push the benefits of sthg called Auto Butler Vehicle Protection Program which includes applying 10 six monthly applications of paint sealant and fabriguard (no leather) over five year period for $800 upfront.

Based on previous owners experiences, do any of you use such a protection, is it really required and is it really good (value for $800)

Kirstie_H

You might try posting in our new topic about Dealer Add-ons & Extras. You'll get opinions about all sorts of add-ons and their price vs. benefit to the consumer.

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soldoncrv

The dealer is Poway Honda. Our salesman told me they are owned by a large corporation who owns over 170 dealerships, both Honda and Toyota. I think they are pretty good as far as dealers go. They try to pitch you all the usual extras, but there is no pressure, and when the price is agree upon, they do not try to change things once you get into the finance manager's office.

soldoncrv

That sticker is called the Mulroney sticker. I believe the dealer is required to let you remove it from the car. But I also read that it is a good idea to see the actual factory invoice to confirm the invoice price. See these links for more:

www.carbuyingtips.com/scams2001.htm
www.ehow.com/tips_2.html

crvnewbuyer

Did anybody buy a CRV in cincinnati area? The dealers I have talked to are all around 20, 600 including destination for a LX-4WD. By looking at the posts in this forum I think that I could get it for 19,600.

Did anybody buy it in Cincinnati area or surroundings.

Thanks in advance

kyfdx

I haven't bought recently (since '02), but I've bought five Hondas in the area over the years... Without fail, I usually get my best deal at Performance in Fairfield.. Their trade-in allowances seem to be higher, also..

Century in Montgomery is where I get my car serviced and the sales experience is good there, but I've only been able to buy there once.. Usually they won't come down enough.

I've come close to buying at Superior on Mitchell a couple of times.. they seem to have competitive prices..

I avoid Wyler at all costs... I feel slimy after I get out of there...

I don't really have any experience at Honda East, since Woeste bought it back in the '90s...

I bought my last CR-V at Nourse Honda in Chillicothe... Driving through there on vacation and they had what I wanted at a reasonable price.

Hope this helps,
kyfdx

jgreer

I also bought my CRV (an EX) at Poway Honda.

My overall buying experience there was good. They will throw in free car washes and maintenance when they get to their lowest price and won't come down any further.

I felt that I should have been able to get the car for a little less, but was dealing with a time restriction (the 2.9% financing offer was going to expire within a day or two of when I bought). So, I did the best I could.

They took care of the small problems with the car (clear coat was a little rough in a couple of place, but it buffed right out and they replaced a piece of molding that was scratched).

I still need to contact them because they haven't sent me my coupon booklet for the free maintenance.

By the way, the owner of Poway Honda also owns Poway Toyota. My sister bought a RAV4 there for under invoice. So, if you go toward the end of the month, you do have more leverage with these guys.

Greer

jsalz

Thanks for the links. Well I got the SE model with no extra options so I don't see what the point would be of not giving me the Mulroney sticker. Why would a dealer not want to give it to me?

crvnewbuyer

Thanks kyfdx.

Do you think these guys would sell it at invoice price.
Is this possible in Cincinnati area?
I felt that used cars, new cars were expensive over here. I am new to here.

Thanks

kyfdx

If Performance in Fairfield has a decent stock of CR-Vs, they will at least come within a few hundred of invoice... I would try there first..

rhodyv

If this includes tax, you did really well!

bowled_over

Got a CR-V LX 2 WD of Silver Satin color with appearance package (mud gurad, pin stripe, floormats et al) for on the road price of 19817/- . apparently 300 bucks below invoice was the starting point. Guess I did well. Dealer was Koons of manassas. Only downside is that they quoted me 200 bucks less on phone and then refused to accept that they did.

crvnewbuyer

Did this 19817/- include tax, tags etc.

bowled_over

Yes it did. They actually quoted me 19637 on phone but went back on it stating that was an error. 19817 seemed to be standard output from internet sales for them. I guess I submitted request for quote through cars.com

crvnewbuyer

Can you indicate how much was your actual price excluding the tax, title, registration, processing fees?

This would give me an idea of how much I can negotiate for.

Thanks in advance

crvnewbuyer

I found a 04 CRV NEW LX4WD Manual for 17,999(including destination) without the tax, title etc. This has 2 miles.

Is this a good deal?

If not what would be a fair price to ask the dealer for.

Thanks in advance,

kyfdx

Why do they have a new '04 still around? Is it purple or something? Or was it damaged in transit, and has a lot of bodywork?

CR-Vs are pretty darn popular.. It would worry me... What dealer?

regards,
kyfdx

crvnewbuyer

Honda East. Color-Silver
I still need to go there and see if they are damaged in transit .

Thanks

kyfdx

If you plan on keeping the car a long time, getting an '04 at that price would be a good deal... Plus, I don't think you can get an LX 4WD in a manual shift in '05..

But, I'd want them to take you and the car back to the service area... Have a mechanic put it on a lift, and swear to you that it has never had body or paint work.. If they say they can't guarantee it, ask to take it to a nearby body shop (probably ten of them within 5 miles of that dealership), for an inspection..

There have been a few upgrades to the '05 that you won't get... VSA stability control... 16" wheels vs. 15", etc... but, AWD will make it easy to sell in Cincinnati when the time comes to get rid of it.... And the color is good.

Just weird that they still have it.. but, manuals just aren't that popular any more.

regards,
kyfdx

crvnewbuyer

Thanks kyfdx for the advice

kichan

Just to follow up, it is the MONRONEY law, and it is a law which requires that the purchaser, NOT the dealer remove the sticker from a new vehicle. If you do a search on Google, you can find additional information. Based on what I have read, the dealership can incur serious fines for removing the sticker...

kichan

JSalz: out of curiosity, did you purchase your vehicle in Northern NJ (near the Rockland County border)?? I also have a similar situation...