Mazda Protege Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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A DX 5-speed with AC and nothing else, had one been available, would at the same discount cost around $10,100. I would have bought it regardless of color at that price, but I'm still happy with the price I paid for the automatic.
Silver Pro5 with:
moonroof/6 cd player
rear bumper guard
perimeter shock sensor alarm (installed at no charge)
roof cargo box
Cash Price and accessories was:
$16,680-2,500 Mazda rebate= $14,180-$8080 Toyota rav4 trade in=$6100 + $1379.81 sales tax= $7479.81 + $45 doc. fee= $7524.81 + $160 lic. fees= $7684.81. Paid balance by check.
Instead of paying $15,096 it was actually $14,180 after the $2500 rebate. Good luck to those who will make a purchase soon.
ABS & side Airbag
Dealer: Magnussens Fremont Mazda, Fremont CA
15,155 ($3000 dealer discount)
1,447 (State sales tax, Tire fee, DMV registration etc)
-2,500 Mazda Factory rebate
Total out the door price = $14,102
This was $5,500 off the dealers MSRP of 18,155.
I dealt with the internet fleet manager for the last few weeks and give her my terms. There are quite a number of Protege5s on the dealers' lots in the SF bay area so most will offer at least $5,000 off the price of any P5. The deal was perfect, no problems or tricks. Hope you have a good buying experience too.
the $2500 rebate or before? My dealer says
before. Is this right? (Does this depend
on the state? Mine is NJ)
When you agree to purchase the car, the $2500 is a direct payment to you from the factory. You then use it as part of your payment on the vehicle. So sales tax is figured on the higher price before the rebate comes in the picture.
Congrats on your new P5. Did your purchase include any factory financing? We live near that dealership, and are planning to get one from there or other dealership in the bay area if the price is good.
No financing. If you want to use the Mazda 0% financing, then you will not get the $2500 factory cash rebate. Only deal with the internet/fleet sales managers. Good luck.
bumper guard (installed, didn't really want it)
wheel locks (uninstalled, in plastic bag)
cash price $14754 + tax/lic/doc/tirefee - $2500 factory rebate
We got a higher face-to-face quote until we mentioned your transaction. Was looking for
silver+abs+rack also. Final price was a bit more than yours after adjustment for
the abs which we don't have. Someone from the dealership had installed the front plate
frame slanted and off centered, but we didn't notice until final inspection. It's going
to have two extra screw holes on the front bumper underneath the plate after we re-align
the plate mounting, a bummer for us. Thanks for your posts.
Sticker price of 17,090.
After discounts, rebates, grad cash = 11,390.
This weekend I buckled down and tested all manner of cars from used to brand new. My goal was to get the most fun, reliability and comfort for my cash without exceeding 13-14k.
I fiddled with used CLs and Solaras but they were too sloppy handling for my tastes.
I stopped in at Ford and tried out a Focus. Not bad considering the amazing power of the 2.3L engine. But I worry that it won't hold up for the commute.
The Corolla made me feel like I was sitting in a hole. Civic had decent pull but was noisy at 80+ and felt light.
The Hyundai Elantra GLS/GT felt too lightly sprung and scary wiggly at highway speeds.
The Scion xB pulled like a champ up to 90. It teetered a bit unnervingly in corners but the build quality was top notch, the interior had gobs of space and the price was reasonable.
The Scion xA with a CAI, lowered. 16s and sporting a strut tower bar was easily the home-run handling champ of the cars I drove. Yeah it didn't sport much in power but given the 2300 lbs weight, that didn't matter. Unfortunately, those mods would tack on at least 1000-1500. The price would come in above 14k.
Finally I took a spin in a Pro LX. The engine had good pull, the interior felt nice and the handling was quite good. I moved on to the ES and found the 16s felt more surefooted to me. The interior fit just right (though the telescoping of the Mazda3 would be a bonus). The back window had some nasty gunk inside though...the salesguy said it would get cleaned off.
Ended up buying a 2003 Pro ES in the emerald mica (not a color I want but a search online showed 0 ES Pros in the San Diego area). It has the moonroof/6 disc option for a sticker of 17,090.
Including my impending $500 grad rebate I paid $11,390.
The buying experience was a nightmare as the dealership lied on several occasions. First I was told they allow buyers to put up to 50% on a credit card (hey, free points and 0% interest until may), but that turned out to be a lie. "This is such a good deal, you must pay cash or use a loan."
Okay, how about an option contract? Nope. Again, because I "had such a sweet deal" it was not allowed. Argh!
Fine, lets see what you can pull up with you-finance-guy-you. First shot was a jacked up 8.49% APR. I laughed and said sure as I'll nail another loan monday and nuke it. Oh and they want to leave the Stargard bogus security chip thing on the car for a mere $500. ROFL
Some haggling and suddenly the joker wants $400 for the toy. nope. $300? No, take it off. By the end, no toy stargard "security" system and the rate was 4.49% for 4 years. Still not a rate that makes me happy. Gonna talk to a place Monday. Doc fees were reasonable at $40 though.
So I go to leave after the arduous 1 hour ordeal with the finance twit and my salesperson tells me he can't get anyone to drive one of my cars back to my place AFTER we agreed upon that. Fine. He says I should come back tomorrow (Sunday).
I came by this morning and I noticed a few things: scratches and the car still wasn't cleaned right. The manager told me they'd try to buff out the scratches but he would not go near anything related to painting. Hey, just fix it. He also declared the car was detailed. Uh, as if. His response: "You got a great deal. If you dislike it, leave the car and we terminate the contract."
Finally they said they'd work to get the scatches out. Still really mad that the back window has smudges and that grease inside it. I'll call a real Mazda dealer tomorrow to discuss them cleaning it.
Also, they informed me that I'd have to guide the dealer employee home to drop off my car and then take him back as the 5 salesguys standing inside watching a Mexican soap opera couldn't bother because they were "busy". Apparently, gravity is reversed inside the dealer showroom and if too many salesmen leave, the floor would lift up.
One last smack...they didn't have my wireless key fobs. "We don't know where they are." "We'll get you some this week." What?
Love my Pro but Westcott Mazda in National City is a straight ghetto dealer with zero customer service skills. If Mazda calls to check my dealer experience I'm gonna go off like an H-bomb at the Bikini atoll. If Mazda doesn't call, I'll contact them!
My price DID NOT have the college grad rebate. Looking at the boards I think I got a very good deal, but I have seen quite a few others for similiar prices. Good luck.
I would have paid the extra few hundred for an ES.
Anyone know if fac to dealer incentives are still around? I don't see any on Edmunds. I gotta imagine they're getting more desperate to ditch these cars. Should I even CONSIDER paying into 14Ks (before TTL)?
did the deal at a local dealer, 5 miles from my house, including time to get to credit union and stuff...under 2 hours. freaking painless.
i think i may have paid about 300 more than i had to, but saved me taking the day off of work and driving 60+ miles to the twin cities,getting a sitter, etc.4 plus i really tire of the 'haggling' with the sales people. the best part, though, was seeing a salesman in the same dealership that offered me 3100 trade in value on my 98 protege lx, not 2 weeks ago. sorry pal, your loss.
Is this a good price?
I was offered $12,500 this week for a new 2003 Protege LX with automatic, moonroof/6-CD package, abs-side air bags package. That figure includes the $2500 rebate, but does not include any grad rebate/cash.
Since it's near the end of the year, can I get a lower price than $12,500?
Thanks for any advice...appreciate your help.
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TMV after 2,500.00 customer cash is 13,041.00. Anyone with recent P5 buying experience in this neck of the woods?
Since there's no Mazda3 Prices Paid board, I'm posting this here since the 3 replaces the Protege.
Today I was quoted a price for a 2004 Mazda 3i w/several packages. Invoice price is $16,567; MSRP is $17,940. Due to an alumni program I am in, the price for this car is set at $300 over invoice. However, this dealer said he had to also charge me a $102 dealer prep fee and a $150 "Los Angeles Assessment" fee. What are these charges, and are they bogus? He explained that the L.A. Assessment fee is charged to the dealer by the manufacturer and that it is not negotiable. He explained the dealer prep fee, but it sounded lame, so I forgot what he said.
BTW, on the invoice, the L.A. Assessment fee is only listed in the Invoice column. In the MSRP column, the L.A. Assessment fee is listed as $0.
Thanks for your help!
I paid $12K for LX, 5 Spd, with just added
cassette deck (Nov 3rd week).
2003.5 Silver P5
ABS and side air bag package
Moonroof and 6 CD package
I've now got the price of a 03 lx down to $11,900. Is this a good deal? I was the one who posted an earlier message saying I had been offered $12,500...after waiting a few days, the dealer called back and reduced the price.
The lx is an automatic has the abs/air bag and moonroof/6-cd package.
Tax is $873 and doc fees are $160. They're also charging me something called govt. fees at $15.
So the total out the door price is $12, 956.
Should i go for it?
Thanks for any advice...appreciate your time.
Regardless of equipment, this is a terrific car and I'm sure you will enjoy it. For 12 grand, nothing else comes close.
thanks for any help...i think i'm going to get the lx today...
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All of the contacted dealers responded and quoted initial prices ranging from a high of $18,263.00 (Byers in Columbus) to a low of $16,847.00 (Brown in Toledo). There are no options available on the Mazdaspeed so this almost $1400 spread was quite surprising.
I had not originally intended to play dealers off against each other but, as things developed, it worked out that way. My target price was $16,447.00 ($19,447.00 less $2500.00 rebate less $500.00 factory to dealer cash).
Yesterday I bought a silver unit from Brown Mazda in Toledo for $16,074.00 (plus $100.00 "document fee"). It was a new vehicle with 15 miles on it.
I would highly recommend this store to anyone in the market as they were highly professional and extremely courteous.
Interestingly, their price was NOT the best quote I got. As I was on my way to Toledo from my home in Columbus, I got a call from Wagner Mazda in Fostoria (a small city NW Ohio) offering to sell a yellow one (not my preferred color) for $15,900.00. At that time, I had not ever seen (in person or by photo) a silver Mazdaspeed. Upon arriving in Toledo the silver color seemed much better suited to the car (and me, lol) than the yellow.
If the best price for a Mazdaspeed had been around $17,000.00, I believe I would have ended up with a Protege5. While I never got any quotes on a P5, the prices documented on this board (and local advertising here) made clear I could buy one equipped as wanted for $13,000.00 to
$13,500.00). Either vehicle is a tremendous value.
Offered US$13000 OTD for a silver automatic Pro5 no options, at another dealer and they did not even counter offer.
Maybe could have gotten a better deal, but the experience was painless and enjoyable (had been in contact with dealer for over a month).
Not many Pros left in South Florida and incentives expire next Monday 03/01/2004.
Where do I find 2003 model list/invoice pricing and where should I start on this car, considering it is last year's model?
Factory to dealer = US$1000 or more
A good price at this point would be US$5000 to US$6500 off list.
Check past posts !!!
Go to MazdaUSA website.
I'm new to the board, just found it. Seems like a great resource. I'm in the process of looking for a car to replace my bimmer I just sold and the PR5 is on the top of the list. I found a great car, red, auto, 15k miles, asking $12,900 for it. Book value is around $12k for it.
Can you guys give me any advice on negotiating for it? Has anyone recently purchased a pre-owned protege? What kind of deals did you get?