Nissan Murano Maintenance and Repair

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  • homeounerhomeouner Member Posts: 145
    On the"CVT" ; in the Editors review & What Edmunds.com says, the brief discription were "Power sapping" & "CVT detracts from performance" but what the heck , who always wants to out drag a Camary all the time with out trying too hard? In a previous post in one of the catagorys, a post talked about the wind noise with either rear window partially down or all the way down. On my Morano an ear popping pulsing sound as tho a helicopter was in the next lane. Has anyone else encountered this. The pulsations seem to be timed to the wheel revolutions???, at any speed over 40 MPH. On the plus side wind noise with either the sun roof or the front windows is very minimal.
  • danvidarstledanvidarstle Member Posts: 10
    Whenever i accelerate, the CVT seems like its stuggling. It sort of sounds like a sewing machine when i accelerate, but then it gets extremely smooth when i hit about 20 MPH. Is this normal??? And when you park the car and get out of it, is it normal to hear "ticking" sounds?
  • grapevinetxgrapevinetx Member Posts: 89
    Homeouner, do a search for "helicopter" or "resonance" and you'll see that the noise is very common in SUV's when only 1 window is open. It's related to the large, boxy shape of the vehicle and is not specific to Muranos. Most, maybe all, SUV's will do it.
  • grapevinetxgrapevinetx Member Posts: 89
    Danvidarstle, it's normal to hear ticking or light popping noises for a few minutes after the vehicle is turned off as the exhaust components start to cool down. This may be what you're hearing.
  • eweisseweiss Member Posts: 11
    I have an '04 SL, and since I'm in San Diego, I drive with the windows down all the time. I don't hear any pulsing noises (BUT, since I used to drive an Explorer, that might explain why I don't hear anything...). Anyway, I also find the CVT to be great. When I push down on the accelerator, it goes. No problems passing or starting from a standstill. I really like the smoothness/quietness of the CVT.
  • gerapaugerapau Member Posts: 211
    The helicopter sounds that you hear are normal for this type of vehical. Eweiss, try lowering just one of the rear windows and keep all the others closed (including the sunroof). Once you get a good speed going you should notice it (it is actually painful to the ears sometimes). I used to get the exact same problem with my Maxima whenever I would lower one side of the split rear seats to carry some cargo and lower one of the rear windows. While this is normal, and opening one of the front windows a crack usually fixes the problem, it is literally a pain.
  • ccermakccermak Member Posts: 260
    That noise happened to me while test driving a Rav4 with a co-worker. Almost blew my eardrums.
  • eweisseweiss Member Posts: 11
    I'll try lowering just one window to see what happens. On another note, does anyone have (or know where I can get one) a dash cover or windshield cover? I know that the front windshield is made with cut UV glass (what, exactly does that do??), but since I'm in Southern California, I'm concerned about UV exposure to the dash/seats. I'd sure like to get something to cover them up when the car's parked while I'm at work (no garage to park in).
  • tucker20tucker20 Member Posts: 3
    I have a 04 Mo with about 5k miles. I have been hearing a rattle that seems to be coming from the passenger front window. It doesn't happen all the time but it happens more than I want. Anyone other MO owners having this annoying problem? If so what's your take on this. Besides that I love my MO Sl midnight blue touring pkg. The gas mileage averages 24 mpg.
  • dmmakoskidmmakoski Member Posts: 72
    Goto www.nissanmurano.org look for forum topic on rattles lots of fixes.
  • danvidarstledanvidarstle Member Posts: 10
    Not really sure if I should go to the dealer again for this. My daughter recently drove the murano with the parking brake on for about 2 miles. She apparently did not know it was on because she did not see the indicator. She said the steering wheel got in the way. I took it to the dealership just to be safe and they did not really check it for problems. I explained the situation to them and they said the "the murano is a strong vehicle and assured me that there shouldnt be any problems because it was only driven with the parking break for 2 miles." Should i believe them when they say this??? I drove it back to my house from the dealership and nothing seemed to be wrong.
  • radiokidradiokid Member Posts: 2
    Have an 03 SL AWD and everything fine except for a grinding noise just after the engine catches sort of like the bendix is sticking a little and raking the flywheel. Only last a second or two but its unnerving me and wonder if anyone else has noticed it.
  • scwt47scwt47 Member Posts: 13
    As an engineer in the windshield design area I can tell you that the terminology "cut UV glass" is a little odd and misleading.

    All windshields made in the last 40+ years are made by laminating 2 layers of thin glass with a thinner layer of adhesive between them to make what's commonly known as laminated safety glass. The adhesive, as you might guess, needs to be resistant to degradation over years of sunlight exposure. So the adhesive is made with a ultraviolet (UV) absorbing material. Laminated safety glass helps keep you and yours inside the car in the event of an accident. It helps keep things out (birds, flying debris, etc.) out.

    As a result of making the glass this way all cars and trucks have windshields that transmit less than 1% of the sun's UV light. You could call it a "UV cut" windshield because it cuts out nearly all the UV light. But it is not anything special that sets the Murano apart from any other vehicle. All vehicles are required to have safety glass windshields.

    The "UV damage" to your dash would be due not so much to UV but rather to high temperatures and normal oxidation of the dash. Sure, some UV will come in from the sides (the door glass is NOT laminated and allows much more UV transmission than the windshield does), but the dashboard is well away from the side glass.

    Your best bet for a long-lived dash panel is to reduce the interior temperature when it's parked. If you cannot garage it or park it in the shade then you want to use a car cover or put up a windshield shade.
  • madmuranoownermadmuranoowner Member Posts: 1
    I have had my 2003 Murano since September 2003. This Saturday, April 24, 2004 my car stopped in the middle of a busy intersection. The engine started, buy when I went to press the excelerator nothing happened. My transmission is BLOWN!!! I have 13,000 miles on it and the car has just stopped moving. The local dealership has not been able to tell my WHY????...Could you tell my why you had to have your transmission replaced??...I was told this CVT was a great system....I can't tell you how UPSET I am...
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    I'm really suprised that there haven't been more problems. It is a relatively new technology, afterall. Thank Nissan that you've got the 50,000 mile power train warranty.

    Did they provide you with a loaner vehicle while yours is out of commission?
  • ccermakccermak Member Posts: 260
    I thought Nissan's been saying the CVT has been around for years, just not available in USA, only in Japan??? Shouldn't be "new" technology, however it's a newly designed CVT for the Murano. Maybe somebody knows, Bowke???
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    "relatively" is the operative word there. I was comparing to standard autoimatic transmissions which we all know have been around for decades yet still today (like Honda/Acura's recent problems) have significant failure rates. We haven't seen anything like that with the CVT's yet.

    The CVT has been in use in Japan for quite a few years, just never with the kind of horsepower that Nissan is running through it with the Murano.

    I also find it kind of interesting that Nissan hasn't (at least I haven't noticed it yet) announced any other vehicles using the CVT since the Murano.
  • kb28843kb28843 Member Posts: 6
    For those of you who may have been following my problem, it has hopefully just been resolved. The transmission case seam was leaking - meaning that there was a defect in the 2 halves of the trans case and the oil was being forced thru and onto the exhaust. Dealer replaced the tranny, transfer case and tranny control (brain) and it has/will be sent back to Nissan for diagnosis as to a one time or gross production failure. This is on a 2004 AWD SL. Best regards to all.
  • dodoc2003dodoc2003 Member Posts: 20
    Just wondering if anyone has installed a tow hitch on their Murano? If so, is it the Nissan manufactured or aftermarket? Thanks.
  • nurse6nurse6 Member Posts: 6
    I have a 2003 Murano and was also having a rattle in the passenger front window. Keep in mind there is seldom anyone but me in the car and I spent the first 6000 miles learning the "sounds" of my car. So this was new and started after the first time my husband was in the car. Turned out to be the metal part of the seat belt hitting the side of the door. Sounded just like it was in the front window. Happened again in the back seat after I had my dog belted in. Move the seat belt clasp all the way up and see if that stops your rattle.
    One other rattle I found was in the rear air conditioning outlet. If it is not aimed toward the seat right a wind noise like an open door occurs. hope this helps your problem
  • homeounerhomeouner Member Posts: 145
    Having decided to bone up on the owners manual since my lession on the fog light switch, Hall Nissan has me down for a tire rotation & balancing for $36.00 at 7500 miles. The owners manual shows cross rotation, the service writer says front to back!!! I figured that todays radials could rotate in the opposite direction. Apparently not. Does the forum posters have ideas on this. The front seats cushions are firm on my MO,W/ the rear seats park bench hard. Are all MO like that?
  • gerapaugerapau Member Posts: 211
    Looks like I have found my first problem with my Murano. The ABS and AWD lights come on and stay on now after I drive the car about 100 feet. For the first 100 feet or so the lights do not come on but if I press the brake during that time the ABS comes on even though the tires are not slipping. Is it possible that there is some sort of slip sensor that is shared between the AWD system and the ABS and this sensor is faulty? Once the lights come on I cannot lock the car in AWD using the switch.
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    The owner's manual says on page 5-22 that the brakes will function normally when the ABS light is on but that ABS won't be working. Page 2-10 talks about the AWD light when it stays on. It says if the diameter of the front and rear tires are different, this can cause the light to go on.

    I'd say a trip to the dealer is imminent, especially since you get both together. That's clearly abnormal and may mean something completely different than when you just have one light.

    AutoZone stores (if you have any around you) will read the codes for you for free and tell you what the Murano's computer is showing.

    Let us know what you find out!
  • mirandayinmirandayin Member Posts: 7
    I am a 2004 Quest owner and I have the same problem with the windows went down on its own, amongst a lot of other problems that I posted on "Quest problems" in the other Town Hall discussion under "2004Quest". I am in the 5th month owning the minivan and have been to dealership many many times - the service manager told me I am the only Quest owner w/ this window problem but he does mention a Murano owner with similar complaint. I also have disabled the remote function from the key and same problem still happening intermitently. They have kept my van on one occasion, for 2 nights and 1 night for "observation" but nothing happened so they still have no clue. Now I don't drive my van after dark, I don't park in underground parking. If you need support on your case, I can send papers and documentations to back you up. I think on top of full refund on purchase price, the court/ arbitrator should rule that Nissan should pay for monetary compensation of pain and suffering and frailed nerve inflicted on you and your family due to the fact that you are robbed of sense of security, which is a basic entitlement as a new car owner. You should also be compensated on time lost with all trips back and forth to the dealership. Nissan customer service here in Canada is also very unsupportive. As for my Quest, the jury is still out - the general manager at my dealership promised to exchange another Quest for me. I had been disappointed before when the same promise was made by another sales manager 2 months ago. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Wish you good luck with your case.
  • gerapaugerapau Member Posts: 211
    Ya, I've had an appointment scheduled ever since the problem started. I'm taking it in this Saturday and will let you know what the problem is. I doubt that it is the tires though since they are all worn about the same amount (they have been rotated on a regular basis). Also, I don't think AutoZone is an option up here in Canada. Doesn't really matter though since everything should still be under warranty.
  • fmunoz1069fmunoz1069 Member Posts: 35
    Hi I am fairly new to this forum. I am the proud owner of an 04 Murano SL 2wd and was wondering if anyone feels a slight surge when your accelerating from a light from about 1000 to 2500 rpm. Its little annoying. Also does any one have a problem with the drivers seat feeling loose? I would like any kind of feed back. Thanks all...
  • homeounerhomeouner Member Posts: 145
    Hello all: Have had my MO for two months now. Ran it up on ramps and got a look at the exhaust system. The exhaust pipes from each bank of the engine come together to the common pipe W/ a cross section that seems restricted?? After that apx. 3 ft. of pipe, then the muffler and more pipe to the rear wheel area. If one stands back 15 ft. and looks under; the muffler is hanging down low, very unsightly, some thing like a '86 Ch*vy Cavalier with the 3rd. exhaust system installed by the rooky at a Mi*as shop. A car the caliber of a MO should have the muffler tucked up out of sight like all other new cars.
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    I also think that hanging appendage is very unattractive, but I think it's referred to as a resonator. One of the Murano owners in my area had his removed my a local muffler shop and replaced with a straight piece of pipe.

    The look is now clean but the sound inside the Murano is also a little louder, especially at highway speeds.

    I'm still debating whether or not to have mine removed.
  • pcs15394pcs15394 Member Posts: 27
    I feel the surge on occasion, in fact yesterday it pinned me back in my seat. The accelerator takes a little getting used to as it can be quite sensitive. As far as the Drivers Seat being loose, mine is as well, There was a TSB issued on 03 Models :Service Bulletin Num : 03095 Date of Bulletin: OCT 15, 2003 . I have not had this addressed yet but plan to when time allows
  • homeounerhomeouner Member Posts: 145
    More comments on the exh. system of my MO. The ground clearance under the resonator & cat. convertor is 7" on my MO. These pipes could be tucked up closer to the floor pan but would have required some insulation W/ cost cutting some where else. An intermediate hanger should have been used to help support the system as the only one used is 91/2 ft. from the engine "Y" pipe. The entire unsupported length could crack and drop lower due to flexing. I do not want to have the resonator removed as its needed to keep the engine sound down. The factory should provide a retrofit kit to improve appearance & longevity. The muffler at the rear is very well supported.

     
     
  • gerapaugerapau Member Posts: 211
    The ABS and AWD warning lights turned out to be a malfunctioning speed sensor in the right front wheel. They ordered the part and will install it when it comes in.
  • homeounerhomeouner Member Posts: 145
    Hello all; Saw this link in the Cadillac Mailing List on a CVT as used in the Saturn Veu ?. It seems to be similar to the Jatco used in the MO. I hope the link works. http//www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/tech/dod/index
  • dmmakoskidmmakoski Member Posts: 72
  • homeounerhomeouner Member Posts: 145
    Similar meaning two split pulleys and a metal segmented belt and being a Van Dorn out of Europe (Holland). The link (does not work) had a very good bit of information W/ working cut aways.
  • cheapomancheapoman Member Posts: 1
    Has anybody had a problem with their horn blowing by itself when turning? My horn was not working when I bought the Murano now every now and then it blows by itself when turning.
  • sierraladysierralady Member Posts: 8
    I took my 2004 Nissan Murano to the local dealer for an oil change this week. It was my third oil change and I am at 9K miles. I am extremely particular about my car and its maintenance. After I left the shop, I stopped at a few places to run errands, then headed for home, a 25 mile drive over an 8500 ft. mountain. About 1/3 of the way up, the car started to lose power, then the oil light came on, then all the dash warning lights, then, about one block since the start of the problem, the engine stopped as I reached an area of the road with shoulder to pull off on. There was oil all over the road and back of the car. Nissan sent a tow truck and the next morning, determined that the oil drain plug was gone and offered me a new engine and a rental car. I went along with their offer, as it seemed the easier, softer, route to take. I am wondering if I did the right thing. My same warranties will apply, it is a factory NEW engine, not rebuilt, and they said they will detail the car, especially underneath, several times. It will take about 2 weeks. I asked them for some free oil changes to offset the increased gas mileage to break in the new engine, they don't seem to want to do that. The rental car is a Kia Rio, my 6'5" husband almost has to sit in the back seat to fit. I feel like my new car will never be the same, and won't be a new car anymore. Some people are telling me there will be "kinks" with the engine/car that will take a lot of time to work out. I am pretty depressed about what has happened. Any comments or questions appreciated. Also, what should I put on the service evaluation questionnaire when it comes???
  • ccermakccermak Member Posts: 260
    I had a buddy have same thing happen to his 1996 Chevy Cavalier right after he bought it. He just rolled 225,000 miles on his replacement engine. I wouldn't worry too much about getting a new engine, it's more about how well the dealer's mechanics will do on putting things back together correctly. If anything, I'd lobby to get a 100K mile warranty thrown into the mix before free oil changes. May get them to at least split the cost with you!
  • dmmakoskidmmakoski Member Posts: 72
    What happened is a shame.

    Didn't a light or warning beep or something indicate oil pressure was lost? I would imagine the engine would even shut down.

    Anyway, had a oil filter gasket go on my Jeep Grand Cherokee on the hiway once. Oil and smoke everywhere. I was able to shut down before losing pressure and had it towed. No engine replacement, but was able to clean the underside easily myself.

    I would pressure them into a new vehicle but you probably wont succeeded. If a new engine is put it and done right you should be okay. Just pressure them for more favors like free oil changes, maintenance for life.
  • homeounerhomeouner Member Posts: 145
    As per post 382, page 20 about rattles- W/ 4400 miles I hear no rattles, a tribute to the MO tight assembly, a vehicle that rides as hard and bumpy as a MO should sound like a bucket of bolts by now. I have had a number of autos W floor concoule shifters W/O the zig-zag gate. The gate is a real pain!!! I am getting good milage overall.
  • sierraladysierralady Member Posts: 8
    The oil light and then the rest of the warning lights did indeed come on, but it all happened in a matter of about a city block in distance. I hardly had time to react/process in my brain, the first event before the next one took place. I was probably going 50 mph when it happened, so about 30 seconds max. Also, when it started, I was on a mountain curve with absolutely no shoulder, so even if I could have reacted faster, I had no place to pull over, and to stop on the curve would have for sure resulted in me being hit. It was also 5 pm and fairly heavy traffic, for a mountain.

    I already had purchased a 100K warranty, so that is still good. They don't seem to want to give me anything more.

    Thanks!
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    Terrible luck with the Nissan dealer forgetting to put in the oil drain plug. I can imagine the frustration you must feel, especialy with only 9k miles on the new vehicle.

    I think once you feel as if you've reached the end of the "service" that the dealer is going to provide you because of their mistake, you should probably try contacting Nissan North America.

    I bet they would be very interested in knowing they have a dealer who fogets to check even the most basic service item.

    I'd have questions about the quality of the work done when the engine is replaced. I'm sure it won't be the same technician who forgot the drain plug, but they still work in the same shop, at the same dealer.

    I'd think that at a MINIMUM I'd insist on the re-starting the 100k warranty that you paid for since in essence your on a brand new engine installation.

    On the flip side, I'm sure the new engine will be of at least the same, if not better quality as the original. The post about the quality of the replacement work/install is right on the money.

    This type of issue is one of the reasons I always switch over to full synthetic oil as soon as possible. Supposedly, the engine will actually run for a while if oil pressure is lost if your on full synthetic as opposed to "dinosaur" oil.
  • grapevinetxgrapevinetx Member Posts: 89
    dklanecky wrote:

    "Supposedly, the engine will actually run for a while if oil pressure is lost if your on full synthetic as opposed to "dinosaur" oil."

    I confess that you lost me on that one. Why would the use of full synthetic allow this?
  • sierraladysierralady Member Posts: 8
    Thanks...I am making a list of items I have concerns with: 1) the cost of gas to break in a new engine (my engine got about 13 mpg for the first 7K miles, then went up to 19.5), is about $450 at today's prices. I would like some sort of compensation for that, either free oil changes or cash. The Murano does not need any service except oil change for 100K miles. 2) I am concerned that the car resale value will be less with the replaced engine - is that correct? 3) The rental car they have given me is too small for my husband to make a previously scheduled 400 mile trip to medical care in mid-June, before my car is returned. I want them to give me a bigger car for that trip. My husband is 6'5" tall and his medical problem is blood clots in his legs, so folding them into a Kia Rio for 8 plus hours of driving is unacceptable. 4) I, too, wonder about the dealer's workmanship in installing the new engine, as the oil change was such a disaster. 5) I want the original car warranty as well as my purchased extended warranty to be extended 9K miles and 7 months (I bought the car in November).

     I plan to contact the Nissan service manager later this week, then escalate as appropriate when he declines my requests (which he already did once). Comments? Thanks for any and all advice.
  • extechextech Member Posts: 12
    Few years back a tech named Kenny done a fuel injection flush on a Honda and stepped out to use the bathroom. The car burned down and they gave the customer a brand new Accord. Afterward she kept coming back and always asked that only Kenny work on her car. Relax, and enjoy the new motor. Ask the service manager whether an aligmnent is needed or not, because pulling the motor out might require to disconnect suspension components, I'm not sure.
  • stclarkstclark Member Posts: 2
    Had the dreaded battery / brake indicator lights come on and not soon after the Murano lost most of its power and left me stranded on the interstate. At least I was able to get it into a rest stop. Around 14,000 miles and this is now the second serious problem with the vehicle. First problem was related to emergency brake cable setup rubbing against the drive shaft causing a very noticable ticking noise. That took three trips to the dealer before they figured that one out. Getting a bit discouraged with the vehicle. Did I make the mistake of buying a first-year model? Anyone having alternator problems with the 2004?
  • gust334gust334 Member Posts: 75
    First, my empathy on your situation.

    Second, I would suggest your priority should be 4-2-3-5-1, and pursuing the last three is really a matter of how litigation-happy you are.

    Re:(4), I would suggest you require the dealership to schedule their most experienced service staff to work on the engine replacement. Replacing an engine can actually be easier than repairing one, but it comes down to a matter of thoroughness in making sure everything is hooked up again. The apparent goof on their part (did not thoroughly tighten the drain plug during the oil change) should be sufficient to justify this. If it was me, I'd put this in writing, and I'd expect the dealer to honor it. If they wouldn't, I would immediately have the vehicle transferred to another dealership for the engien exchange.

    Re:(2), you can find this out independently by asking other dealers, a bank and/or credit union, etc. You may even find that your vehicle might be worth MORE (newly replaced parts often increase a used vehicle's resale value). However, I would expect it probably isn't going to affect resale either way, but YMMV.

    Re:(3), when my Murano was in for a lengthy service, I was able to negotiate use of a used Pathfinder from their lot, which better fit my height. However, what the dealer provides is really irrelevant to your family's health concerns. If you need to make a road trip AND the dealer won't provide a suitable vehicle, rent another vehicle yourself. Find out if you can return the Kia and get a cash allowance to offset the higher rental cost. Also, for any lengthy trip in any car, stop frequently and get out to stretch your legs. I wouldn't say the Kia is desirable, but it can get you there and back, and if you stop to ensure circulation it shouldn't be a health concern.

    Re:(5), you realistically wouldn't get this on any other part of the car that failed and was replaced under warranty, so the dealer is unlikely to cave on your demand. For example, if a power window motor failed, it could be replaced under warranty but you wouldn't get the extended warranty further extended, whether the motor failed naturally or if a dealer technician spilled his soda into it. I would suggest you limit your request to extending the powertrain warranty, you might have better results.

    Re:(1), lots of other powetrain parts are already broken-in, so you should expect less mileage required to break-in the new engine. Even so, if I was you I'd accept the new engine without hesitation, rather than stick to my guns on break-in costs... they might decide to FIX the old engine rather than pay for the break-in gas, and I sure wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that decision.
  • marvinkmmarvinkm Member Posts: 6
    I ordered a QualityS hitch from Best for Less Truck Accessories (Ebay Store) for $80. Installation looks reasonably easy. I'm only planning on towing bikes, so I couldn't justify spending $400 for a Nissan part.

    As far as the bike rack goes, I went with a Saris T-Rax Pro 5 from Alfred E. Bike for $200.

    Both should show up early next week. I'll post an update about the quality of the $80 hitch. A friend had used a Quality S hitch once, and said he didn't have complaints (and he had much heavier towing requirements).
  • cariesbustercariesbuster Member Posts: 2
    Hi everyone,

    I am just before purchasing a Murano. I have decided on a color, options, etc. but I need a towing power for a small boat (ca. 3300 lbs. together with the trailer). Please let me know which way I should go - AWD or FWD. I live in Florida and the AWD option is not so important to me as a way to dig myself out of the snow. The only concern is whether I'll be able to pull out the trailer with the boat out of the water with the FWD Murano. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!!!
  • ccermakccermak Member Posts: 260
    What is the towing capability/capacity of the Murano anyway? Can the CVT tow? Better yet is it a bad idea?
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    I have an 03 SE AWD that I use to tow a 4' x 8' utility trailer (it weights about 650 lbs empty).

    I've towed several times back and forth across the state with loads up to 2,000 lbs total with absolutely no problems at all (other than terrible gas mileage when towing 15-16 mpg at 60-65 mph).

    The Murano makes towing almost effortless from my perspective BUT I haven't done any towing of a boat or launching / retrieving from a slippery boat launch. I would think that unless your doing mountain passes or cross country towing, the Murano AWD would be ideal for your planned use.

    I would be careful however since your stated weight of 3,300 lbs could be well over the 3,500 stated capacity of the Murano if your boat is loaded with fuel and equipment?
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