Msn autos reports 0-60 time of 7.34s for the 07 MDX. Quarter mile in 15.78s at 90.60 mph. I too questioned the 8.1 secs reported by Edmunds. By comparison the old MDX weighs about the same as the new and made 0-60 in about 8.0 secs. WIth extra 40 hp and 25 lb-ft of torque, 7.3-7.5s makes much sense for the 07 MDX.
lol, you'd think I'd learn by now. Lots of testing has been done at Willow Springs International Raceway, which isn't at sea level; many of the performance reports here have noted the elevation, temp at testing, etc.
I thought I read a story about moving the performance testing to a site closer to the home office and one that was near sea level, but I don't see it anywhere now. Guess I'll have to visit one of the blogs and ask.
The conditions are listed in the notes from the Full Test article.
Temperature (Fahrenheit): 71 Humidity: 13.7 Elevation (ft): 1121 Wind: 11
But I don't see anything there which I'd consider remarkable.
In the acceleration notes, the tester noted that brake-torquing at launch did not improve the measured times. Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe the specific MDX he was testing had been abused. Maybe it hadn't been broken in. Could be any number of things.
Frankly, I don't feel that one mediocre test result is anything to get worried about. If it turns out that more tests start showing up with results in the 8+ range... then we can give Acura a smack.
I need help from people who recently shopped for a luxury SUV and considered or ended up buying one of these: Q7/MDX 07/GL 450.
I am in the market for one right now. My needs are basically something that will fit 2 adults and 2 car seats and still have some extra space for occasional family/friends. So 3rd row is important as long as I can put 1 or 2 of the car steats there. It is important for the SUV to have excellent safety ratings, which I think all of these do. Other than that I would like it to drive like a car and also be fun for me (sport mode, acceleration, cornering, etc.) - when I am not driving with kids
I would appreciate if you recently bought one of these SUVs and could share as to how/why you chose that one over the others. Also if you can share your experience so far with your new SUV.
My gut reaction is that the GL450 is going to be more SUV than you really need. The things that make the GL450 superior to the others (and worth the extra dollars) are things like towing capacity, which is not one of the criteria you've listed.
The other two are pretty similar. Recommending one over the other would require input on your preferences.
I am not sure the Acura is in the same league as the Audi or GL. They seem to be in a bigger and heavier class of SUVs, which includes the Escalade and the Range Rover.
The MDX, which is based on the Honda Pilot, is smaller.
That said, a few things you might want to know--besides checking it out for yourself:
--The GL won whatever comparison Consumer Reports did (if you read that magazine at all). I figure if they like something, it's at least "safe". You won't have to think much. It does seem rather good though.
--The Q7 is just brilliant in its seating arrangements; as far as combinations go. I don't know about space.
--The MDX is at least as good as the Pilot, which is very good.
--Car and Driver loves the Cadillac SRX. It is their "Best Luxury SUV" this year for the third time, although you'll have to check out the third row for yourself.
Anyways, here is how the Audi looks:
They also claim to be rated very highly in safety from the NHTSA. You should check them out at http://www.Audiusa.com
As for Mercedes:
Couldn't find any more interior shots, but it is very good-looking.
Another one you might consider is the R-Class, which Edmunds is testing long-term right now. I will post more in another post, because this forum at my last long one.
The SRX has a similar roof, by the way--as does the GL. Here is the SRX's: You can also see it very slightly in this picture:
The R-Class seats fold flat, by the way.
I think that would work a whole lot better than a full-on SUV, but that's just me. Go on over to the Edmunds long-term page for a day-by-day review. They seem to like it.
Thanks everyone for all your input. MDX 07 is a lot different than its predecessor and is not based on Honda Pilot. It may seem that it is smaller than Q7, but if you look at the interior dimensions, it is quite comparable.
In any case, I am inclined to get the Q7 - I just love its fit and finish and the V8 transmission and its braking are just awesome.
The only concern I have is with Audi's reliability and this is their first true SUV???
Thanks everyone for all your input. MDX 07 is a lot different than its predecessor and is not based on Honda Pilot. It may seem that it is smaller than Q7, but if you look at the interior dimensions, it is quite comparable.
In any case, I am inclined to get the Q7 - I just love its fit and finish and the V8 transmission and its braking are just awesome.
The only concern I have is with Audi's reliability and this is their first true SUV???
Technically you are correct. The 2nd generation MDX that is out now is on a new platform. However, when the new Pilot comes out next year, it will likely be on the same platform as the MDX--much like the last iterations of both were.
You will just have to take your chances with Audi. I am not hung-up on reliability like a lot of people here because almost all new cars are just fine. I thin you'll like it and it will probably work well.
The Audi is a great choice. I think you will like it. You maybe able to pay less and get the VW Touareg which is pretty much the same vehicle--and that has been out for a little while now.
Do not take any shortcuts if you are going to spend money like this. I suggest you test all of the vehicles here--even if you are sure you'll get the Audi.
Thanks everyone for all your input. MDX 07 is a lot different than its predecessor and is not based on Honda Pilot. It may seem that it is smaller than Q7, but if you look at the interior dimensions, it is quite comparable.
Technically you are correct. The 2nd generation MDX that is out now is on a new platform. However, when the new Pilot comes out next year, it will likely be on the same platform as the MDX--much like the last iterations of both were.
Accuracy is really important in the statements we make, so those making a judgment based on statements made on the board will come to a reasonable conclusion. It turns out that the best readerreader could have originally said in attempting to compare the 07MDX to the Pilot should have been "Maybe the next (generation) Pilot will be based on the 07MDX platform." IMO even that would not have gotten very far with someone currently considering a 07MDX. So it is not just a matter of being "technically correct." Just say, "Oops, I got that wrong," and move on.
My comment is similar regarding the issue of size comparison between the 07MDX and the Q7. One would be hard-pressed to label the 07MDX as "small" compared to the Q7. From published dimensions, it is rather that the GL is obviously bigger that the other two, and is a large SUV.
Additionally, I would advise prospective buyers to indeed take the issue of reliability seriously, unless they do not mind and they earn their living returning their hard-earned sparkling car to the garage every week for repairs. To each his own tho.
You are right duwdu. I was just looking for some outside opinions on this board, but not the facts. That I get by using the edmunds comparison tools and actually driving the car. I did multiple test drives of the MDX 07 and had the Q7 overnight for testing. Both are great SUVs.
Went to buy the Q7 yesterday, but could not find one with the right color/option combination - checked inventory till end of Feb, but nada. Then drove over to the Acura dealer and found the MDX with the color (Nimbus Grey) and the options (sport + ent) that we wanted, and pulled the trigger. I am going to pick it up today
Does anyone know if all '06 MDX's have a 3rd row seat? We are looking at a Touring/NAV/RES. I can buy the '06 leftover pretty cheap but probably will regret not waiting a few months for the '07 to drop a little in price.
Yes, the 3rd row seat comes standard. I just traded my '05 MDX for an '07 MDX. I pick it up Tuesday, since they didn't have my color combo on the lot & had to order it. If you haven't test-driven the '07, I highly recommend you do! My dealership wouldn't come off MSRP in November, when I first drove it as they were selling a lot of them. Saturday I closed the deal for Kelly Blue Book on my trade, and they came off MSRP by $610, ordered the car I wanted, plus offered to tint my front windows. :shades:
Went to buy the Q7 yesterday, but could not find one with the right color/option combination - checked inventory till end of Feb, but nada. Then drove over to the Acura dealer and found the MDX with the color (Nimbus Grey) and the options (sport + ent) that we wanted, and pulled the trigger. I am going to pick it up today
Congrats justg0! Here is wishing you and all many years of safe and blissful 07MDX driving...
I should say so, because my own (yes) 07MDX Sport + Ent, Black/Bordeaux Leather has been delivered to the dealership and is waiting to be shipped to the foreign country where I currently live. My friend who has taken formal delivery and has driven it says the car is simply stunning in looks and marvelous in performance.
I started with a 2005 RL (over 50,000 miles) Alas, we have a new addition to the family. When I put the stroller in the trunk – “poof” no room left! Don’t get me wrong – it was a great car! It served me well.
I recently purchased the 2007 MDX (Sport / Ent) and would like to share the following:
Things I won’t miss about the RL: 1) “Keyless ignition / door unlock” – (Supposed to unlock the doors when you touch the inside of the handle. It didn’t always work the first time. With the MDX ‘flip-key’ - “normal remote” I can deal with it. 2) Onstar! Never used it, never needed it. (It is not in the MDX and that is fine by me) The Bluetooth/cell phone work just fine. Alas, I heard OnStar is going digital and all the installed OnStar systems will be obsolete – they are analog. 3) Paddle shifters on the steering wheel. While they are nice to have – They are difficult to use in turns! The manual shifting on the transmission works just fine (On the MDX). 4) The RL has shades on the back 3 windows. (2 manual / 1 electric). Wouldn’t it just be easier to tint the windows ala MDX? (I’m sure there is some rule – somewhere forbidding this. Whatever...) 5) Of course, the tiny trunk.
The 2007 MDX: The purchase experience wasn’t bad. I was surprised that the roof rack and auto dimming mirror are options! Huh??
1) I purchased before Christmas to do some traveling. I was able to accommodate the following: - 4 adults and 1 child (Center of second row) - Behind the second row: 4 decent sized duffle bags / 1 “pack and play” / 1 bouncy saucer thingy / 1 Stroller / 1 large bag of baby accessories and food / 4 winter coats / a few presents... AND I COULD STILL SEE CLEARLY OUT THE BACK WINDOW! 2) The ride (Comfort setting) was excellent. Even the second row passengers enjoyed themselves. (Of course, it could have been the grandchild they were paying attention to!) 3) The 110v outlet was handy when the cell phone died and all they had was the 110v charger. I think it will be nice when the little one needs to play video games on trips! 4) The motorized tailgate – Very nice. (Think: Cold and snowy - Hands full walking into the house. Turn around – beep! Tailgate is closed! 5) What happened to “Current Position” on the nav system?? It was nice when towns are densely packed. 6) The nav system has improved from the 2005 RL (more details / easier to read). (Other than #5). 6a) I like the ability to modify or search for stuff on the Nav system while under way (Yes, my passenger does all the modifying – while I concentrate on the driving!! LOL) My wife has the Lexus RX 330 and once you start moving, you cannot modify/search for anything in the nav system. I don’t like the Lexus touch-screen. 7) They ‘pulled’ the Climate controls out of the “Nav computer”. The Climate controls now have a dedicated row for 1 button operation. Much better! 8) On the stereo display – There is a Cell phone ‘signal meter’ always displayed. Nice touch! 9) Some people have complained about not having 4 “auto down” window buttons. I actually prefer only having the 2 for the front windows only. That way – you need to be more conscious of when you are closing the rear windows. (possibly on little fingers). Does that make sense! 10) There are 3 point seat belts AND air bags for all 7 seating positions. Granted I’ll only use this feature on occasion – still it is appreciated! 11) Headlights – very bright! 12) Driving (With Sport Suspension): Very responsive / Smooth!!! / Corners nicely. I dare say better than the RL. (I can’t believe I said that!) 13) I don’t mind that it doesn’t do 0-60 in 5 seconds. (Mind the double negative!) It is an SUV, it does the job very well. 14) For the aforementioned “Christmas trip” (~700 miles / within 10 MPH of speed limit – Thanks to the 2005 RL, Oops! ) – Mostly highway: 19 MPG (I won’t get into the MPG debate...) 15) My cell phone fits nicely in the “Not an Ashtray” tray. (The small things in life!)
I hope this helps those contemplating a purchase...
My apologies if I've missed any discussion about price in this thread. But a comparison of these vehicles should include some notion of 'value' which relates, in my opinion, to what you get for what you pay. And here in Canada (where we get royaly hosed by the manufacturers compared with US pricing), we pay big differentials on these models.
Based on their various web sites, a price comparison using models that are as comparably equipped as you can get (given the prolific use of options packaging now), this is what the MSRP is in Canada:
to be compared to an Acura MDX Elite which is $63,000 (I can't get the Acura website to open but this is roughly the MSRP which might or might not include delivery and prep).
In the case of the BMW, Audi and Cad, all vehicles are 6's, with 3rd row seating, nav, entertainment packages, Bluetooth, adaptive suspension, power reardoors, sunroofs, upgraded sound systems, upgraded headlights, etc. The Benz is, of course, a different class of vehicle, with an 8, 7 speed auto and genuine 3rd row seating.
If a potential buyer looks only at the features and technical items, the MDX is the best value. If a potential buyer imputes value into the 'brand', that is a highly personal issue that each and every individual must consider. And while buyers in this category might not have to be overly sensitive to price, the difference between a MDX and the next cheapest comparion (the SRX) is about $11,400 gross including sales tax (provincial and federal). Compared with the BMW, the difference increases to just under $35k.
And one final comment, the value of the 'brand' must include, I would have thought, some assessment of what it provides in terms of dealership support. And as we all know all too well, each and every dealer (regardless of brand) represents a different level of support. Where I live, the Acura dealer has been superb, the Benz dealer has a very good rep (based on anecdotal evidence), the GM dealer also has a very good rep, and the BMW dealer is brand new and does not give one a warm and comforting feeling when you first walk into the showroom.
I have been watching this Acura forum for a month now, listening to some of the concerns of new 07 buyers. I want to trade an 04 Pilot. Pilot's have documented hum and vibe problems (so much so that I take the drastic step of removing the drive shaft in summer!) that solves the hum. But I need all wheel drive in the midwest for winter so the shaft is on now. Honda ignores this issue. I was assuming (hoping) with the new frame on the 07 MDX the shaft to the rear tires would be re-engineered. I think I need to visit an indoor showroom and look under the car! If acura continues to use the same system ( a two piece tube joined in the middle by bolting it to the frame) I would not buy it.
Great post. Too often we see posts asking "what's the best?" without giving us a clue as to their preferences. It's nice to read a follow-up with so many little details.
4) The RL has shades on the back 3 windows. (2 manual / 1 electric). Wouldn’t it just be easier to tint the windows ala MDX? (I’m sure there is some rule – somewhere forbidding this. Whatever...)
I believe you are correct about the "rule". When Subaru reclassified their Outback wagons (and sedans!?!?) as trucks, one of the reasons they cited was the ability to tint all the windows.
Unfortunately, some Acura sales staff are claiming the fully tinted windows make the auto-dimming rear view mirror unnecessary. (Hence, it is now a dealer add-on.) While that doesn't bother me, it stinks of cost-cutting.
FWIW, I agree with other posters here. The Q7 and GL450 are both full-size SUVs, while the MDX is technically a mid-size.
However, the Q7 is a little short on interior space. It's a smallish full-sizer. And the MDX, while short in length, is actually a very wide vehicle. Making it larger inside than the average mid-size. So, the two are comparable in terms of size. (Though price, utility, and other factors still separate them.)
The GL450 is another story, though. I haven't spent any time in one, but, based on the specs, I'd say it's a genuine full-size rig. I don't doubt that it's a terrific full-sizer. I'm just not certain that someone in a position similar to yours would require such a vehicle.
I have both the 2006 Acura RL and the 2007 MDX with tech pack. both are great cars! the MDX drives great has good room but when we put 4 adults 3 kids with 2 of the kids in the 3 row there was no room for the stroller! once you have the 3 row up there is hardly no room behind it..but I still think it is a great SUV and I would buy it again! and by the way everything on my RL works fine!
It's a clumsy solution if all you're doing is heading into town for a night, but it works well for long trips and situations when you have the interior packed to capacity.
My obstacle is a pair of greyhounds. Can't really pack boxes on top of them, so they own the cargo area. I got one of those hitch-carriers for additional gear, but I use it semi-frequently for many other things.
After 2 months of Decision Analysis, picked up my 07 MDX yesterday - Sport Package/Nimbus Gray. SIgned the papers on December 30, picked up Jan. 2. Replaced an 06 Infinity M35. No regrets. The MDX is a great ride!
Picked up my MDX (Sport, Silver/Ebony) last week and have a few hundred miles on it. Quick question for other owners, is anybody getting a subtle "clattering" noise at low speed? I'm talking 5-15 mph going the 100 or so yards from my driveway to the end-of-block turn. Happens when I'm barely on the gas.
Not thrilled with the audio, though, have to fiddle with the settings a bit to get them to where my (old) ears "think" the music should be.
Otherwise, fantastic vehicle, actually got 24mpg on a (mostly) freeway drive/tankful last weekend.
bbro, No clatter on my '07 so far. I've heard that sound on a previous car and it was the brake caliper. Surprised you're not enjoying the sound system (sport comes w/ the upgraded system, right?) What kind of system did you have before? Mine is sport/ent so I think we have the same radio which in my opinion is better than the one in my '05 TL which everyone raves about. Are you sure you have the settings correct? Balance, fade, rear source OFF?
My MDX with 1200 miles on it also makes that subtle "clattering" when I pull out of the driveway. It only happens once and when the car is cold. I thought it was coming from the exhaust system??? My MDX has been in the shop for 2 days now with no answers to my problem with the car pulling to the right. I have to constantly compensate for this which is driving me crazy!! I am driving a loaner which does not have this "tracking right" problem. Does anyone else out there notice if your new MDX pulling to the right?
I drive the base version MDX with the base version sound system. I am currently driving a loaner with the upgraded sound system not to mention every other gadget that you get get on the MDX. Granted, I have not watched a DVD movie but the upgraded sound system isn't much better than my base version!
Yhe ELS system in my TL is a tad crisper with CD as well compared to non-ELS in a loaner RDX I had couple of weeks ago (same CD). But the difference is almost negligible.
To see the true colors of the ELS system however, you will have to look at DVD-A/DTS discs. I have a few of those. The problem is limited choices.
Thanks, upstatedoc, I don't think it's the brake caliper, though I'll check it out. Sound system in my "old" car is the Lexus/Nakamichi, so maybe not a fair comparo. Then again, that one's 12 years old, and with the increased (spatial) volume in this rig, I was hoping for more.
I haven't had a chance to really play with it, though, just too damn many toys in this car -- hog heaven for this gadget geek!
Forgive me if I don't have this perfectly right, but I think the MDX goes through an ABS/Stability Control pump cycle shortly after startup, while the vehicle first reaches 15 MPH or so. Lasts for 2-3 seconds, sound like a rattle or light rapping. I think I feel the brakes slow the car very slightly. Could that be what you are hearing? Or is it something that lasts longer?
I am not sure if this has been asked already, but I have a new 2007 MDX and I hear a noise resembling water moving in a bottle, especially after refueling. I am assuming it is the gas tank and what I am hearing is the gas moving in the tank, but I have never heard this before in any car I have owned. It is definitely coming from underneath the car. I am wondering if my MDX is special or if others have heard something similar. I am not crazy, my husband has heard it as well and was shocked never hearing this in any car he has owned :confuse:
I just traded in my beloved 01 MDX and took delivery of my 07 MDX and love it! But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what this green light is under the dashboard on the driver's side to the right of the parking break release, but a little lower? It looks like an old school alarm light fom the 80's but it doesn't blink. Just glows green all the time, even when the car is off and the doors are closed. I can't find anything about it in the manual.
Mysterious lights.... I don't know, I just looked @ my dashboard for about 10 minutes (lights on, lights off, car on, car off, emergency brake, etc.). The closest green light is the seat memory on the door and way to the left. Must be an L.E.D. loose some where.
I just went out for a spin and I was wrong about it being on when the car is on, that's the only time it's off. It's just strange because it looks after market -- everything else is so sleek and this is a black box (tiny) with a light screwed in to the edge of the dash where it curves under and ends. I'd say when you're sitting in the driver's seat, it's mid to upper shin level. I'll call the dealer and ask if they know. Thanks for the reply!
There are two choices on the intermitent wiper setting(speed sensitive and manual). I have tried both settings and don't notice any difference. I assumed the speed sensitive setting was the same as rain sensing wipers I have had on other vechiles. Rain sensing wipers work great and vary the wiper speed according to the amount of rain hitting the windshield. How is the speed sensitive setting on the 07 MDX supposed to function?
Speed sensitive works differently than rain sensitive. With speed sensitive, your wiper speed varies according to the speed of you vehicle. An easy way to notice that is if you come to a stop on a red light, you wipers will slow down to once every few seconds. Once your vehicle increases speed (I think I read over 10 mph in the manual), the wipers will pick up speed.
I would have liked them to be rain sensitive as that would have automatically taken care of the speed - not sure why acura did it this way.
I have a Honda Pilot (am looking into the new MDX) and it makes the same noise, always after refueling with a full fuel tank. It's got to be the gas tank.
That definitely does not sound like standard equipment, can you show us a picture? Anyone else w/ an '07 have this light? Do you have lo-jack or other non-factory alarms?
Thanks, everyone for your input. I called the dealership today. They said they did a dealer trade to get the color/packages I wanted and that the other dealership they got it from puts in an ignition kill system as a standard thing, but that it wouldn't be activated unless I paid for that. Why would a dealership put any more money into a car than they had to? I find that hard to believe, but it's a little late to argue the point and I don't think I can take it out without leaving two little holes.
Why they had to mess with a perfectly fine car, I don't know. Just wished I had questioned it at the point of sale, but honestly I didn't notice it until I got home...
Oh yeah, and I found an empty Hostess doughnut wrapper in the little passenger storage compartment. Nice.
We have a 2002 MDX which we love - and are looking at the 2007 - which is pretty cool. I was reading the forum and saw your note. Couple of comments. I don't believe the kill switch story. You should speak directly with the dealer that installed the light to get some paperwork verification - that will straighten out the story quickly. And you purchased the car NEW, so the dealer that you purchased it from is responsible to make it as new - including removing the light and all the wires and replacing the panel with the holes. Used cars are a different story, but new is new - and the item was not on the accessory list so it needs to go away - by law. Next step id to Acura corporate. Believe me, you can have it all takencare of, you just need to be firm. Good luck! Great cars - and for the most part - good dealers.
bumbie, this has been reported by numerous 07 MDX owners, something that you have to contact the dealer with. I have not gotten a chance to do so but would do it when I have time.
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Altitude is for flying; elevation is for driving. Maybe that's why you couldn't find it.
Seriously, I did a quick search and couldn't come up with it either.
tidester, host
lol, you'd think I'd learn by now. Lots of testing has been done at Willow Springs International Raceway, which isn't at sea level; many of the performance reports here have noted the elevation, temp at testing, etc.
I thought I read a story about moving the performance testing to a site closer to the home office and one that was near sea level, but I don't see it anywhere now. Guess I'll have to visit one of the blogs and ask.
Temperature (Fahrenheit): 71
Humidity: 13.7
Elevation (ft): 1121
Wind: 11
But I don't see anything there which I'd consider remarkable.
In the acceleration notes, the tester noted that brake-torquing at launch did not improve the measured times. Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe the specific MDX he was testing had been abused. Maybe it hadn't been broken in. Could be any number of things.
Frankly, I don't feel that one mediocre test result is anything to get worried about. If it turns out that more tests start showing up with results in the 8+ range... then we can give Acura a smack.
I am in the market for one right now. My needs are basically something that will fit 2 adults and 2 car seats and still have some extra space for occasional family/friends. So 3rd row is important as long as I can put 1 or 2 of the car steats there. It is important for the SUV to have excellent safety ratings, which I think all of these do. Other than that I would like it to drive like a car and also be fun for me (sport mode, acceleration, cornering, etc.) - when I am not driving with kids
I would appreciate if you recently bought one of these SUVs and could share as to how/why you chose that one over the others. Also if you can share your experience so far with your new SUV.
Thanks!
The other two are pretty similar. Recommending one over the other would require input on your preferences.
The MDX, which is based on the Honda Pilot, is smaller.
That said, a few things you might want to know--besides checking it out for yourself:
--The GL won whatever comparison Consumer Reports did (if you read that magazine at all). I figure if they like something, it's at least "safe". You won't have to think much.
It does seem rather good though.
--The Q7 is just brilliant in its seating arrangements; as far as combinations go. I don't know about space.
--The MDX is at least as good as the Pilot, which is very good.
--Car and Driver loves the Cadillac SRX. It is their "Best Luxury SUV" this year for the third time, although you'll have to check out the third row for yourself.
Anyways, here is how the Audi looks:
They also claim to be rated very highly in safety from the NHTSA.
You should check them out at http://www.Audiusa.com
As for Mercedes:
Couldn't find any more interior shots, but it is very good-looking.
Another one you might consider is the R-Class, which Edmunds is testing long-term right now. I will post more in another post, because this forum at my last long one.
And it's very airy and upscale:
The SRX has a similar roof, by the way--as does the GL. Here is the SRX's:
You can also see it very slightly in this picture:
The R-Class seats fold flat, by the way.
I think that would work a whole lot better than a full-on SUV, but that's just me.
Go on over to the Edmunds long-term page for a day-by-day review. They seem to like it.
In any case, I am inclined to get the Q7 - I just love its fit and finish and the V8 transmission and its braking are just awesome.
The only concern I have is with Audi's reliability and this is their first true SUV???
In any case, I am inclined to get the Q7 - I just love its fit and finish and the V8 transmission and its braking are just awesome.
The only concern I have is with Audi's reliability and this is their first true SUV???
Technically you are correct. The 2nd generation MDX that is out now is on a new platform. However, when the new Pilot comes out next year, it will likely be on the same platform as the MDX--much like the last iterations of both were.
You will just have to take your chances with Audi.
I am not hung-up on reliability like a lot of people here because almost all new cars are just fine.
I thin you'll like it and it will probably work well.
The Audi is a great choice. I think you will like it.
You maybe able to pay less and get the VW Touareg which is pretty much the same vehicle--and that has been out for a little while now.
Do not take any shortcuts if you are going to spend money like this. I suggest you test all of the vehicles here--even if you are sure you'll get the Audi.
Technically you are correct. The 2nd generation MDX that is out now is on a new platform. However, when the new Pilot comes out next year, it will likely be on the same platform as the MDX--much like the last iterations of both were.
Accuracy is really important in the statements we make, so those making a judgment based on statements made on the board will come to a reasonable conclusion. It turns out that the best readerreader could have originally said in attempting to compare the 07MDX to the Pilot should have been "Maybe the next (generation) Pilot will be based on the 07MDX platform." IMO even that would not have gotten very far with someone currently considering a 07MDX. So it is not just a matter of being "technically correct." Just say, "Oops, I got that wrong," and move on.
My comment is similar regarding the issue of size comparison between the 07MDX and the Q7. One would be hard-pressed to label the 07MDX as "small" compared to the Q7. From published dimensions, it is rather that the GL is obviously bigger that the other two, and is a large SUV.
Additionally, I would advise prospective buyers to indeed take the issue of reliability seriously, unless they do not mind and they earn their living returning their hard-earned sparkling car to the garage every week for repairs. To each his own tho.
Went to buy the Q7 yesterday, but could not find one with the right color/option combination - checked inventory till end of Feb, but nada. Then drove over to the Acura dealer and found the MDX with the color (Nimbus Grey) and the options (sport + ent) that we wanted, and pulled the trigger. I am going to pick it up today
Yes, the 3rd row seat comes standard. I just traded my '05 MDX for an '07 MDX. I pick it up Tuesday, since they didn't have my color combo on the lot & had to order it. If you haven't test-driven the '07, I highly recommend you do! My dealership wouldn't come off MSRP in November, when I first drove it as they were selling a lot of them. Saturday I closed the deal for Kelly Blue Book on my trade, and they came off MSRP by $610, ordered the car I wanted, plus offered to tint my front windows. :shades:
Congrats justg0! Here is wishing you and all many years of safe and blissful 07MDX driving...
I should say so, because my own (yes) 07MDX Sport + Ent, Black/Bordeaux Leather has been delivered to the dealership and is waiting to be shipped to the foreign country where I currently live. My friend who has taken formal delivery and has driven it says the car is simply stunning in looks and marvelous in performance.
Can't wait.
Happy New Year to all.
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I recently purchased the 2007 MDX (Sport / Ent) and would like to share the following:
Things I won’t miss about the RL:
1) “Keyless ignition / door unlock” – (Supposed to unlock the doors when you touch the inside of the handle. It didn’t always work the first time. With the MDX ‘flip-key’ - “normal remote” I can deal with it.
2) Onstar! Never used it, never needed it. (It is not in the MDX and that is fine by me) The Bluetooth/cell phone work just fine. Alas, I heard OnStar is going digital and all the installed OnStar systems will be obsolete – they are analog.
3) Paddle shifters on the steering wheel. While they are nice to have – They are difficult to use in turns! The manual shifting on the transmission works just fine (On the MDX).
4) The RL has shades on the back 3 windows. (2 manual / 1 electric). Wouldn’t it just be easier to tint the windows ala MDX? (I’m sure there is some rule – somewhere forbidding this. Whatever...)
5) Of course, the tiny trunk.
The 2007 MDX:
The purchase experience wasn’t bad. I was surprised that the roof rack and auto dimming mirror are options! Huh??
1) I purchased before Christmas to do some traveling. I was able to accommodate the following:
- 4 adults and 1 child (Center of second row)
- Behind the second row: 4 decent sized duffle bags / 1 “pack and play” / 1 bouncy saucer thingy / 1 Stroller / 1 large bag of baby accessories and food / 4 winter coats / a few presents... AND I COULD STILL SEE CLEARLY OUT THE BACK WINDOW!
2) The ride (Comfort setting) was excellent. Even the second row passengers enjoyed themselves. (Of course, it could have been the grandchild they were paying attention to!)
3) The 110v outlet was handy when the cell phone died and all they had was the 110v charger. I think it will be nice when the little one needs to play video games on trips!
4) The motorized tailgate – Very nice. (Think: Cold and snowy - Hands full walking into the house. Turn around – beep! Tailgate is closed!
5) What happened to “Current Position” on the nav system?? It was nice when towns are densely packed.
6) The nav system has improved from the 2005 RL (more details / easier to read). (Other than #5).
6a) I like the ability to modify or search for stuff on the Nav system while under way (Yes, my passenger does all the modifying – while I concentrate on the driving!! LOL) My wife has the Lexus RX 330 and once you start moving, you cannot modify/search for anything in the nav system. I don’t like the Lexus touch-screen.
7) They ‘pulled’ the Climate controls out of the “Nav computer”. The Climate controls now have a dedicated row for 1 button operation. Much better!
8) On the stereo display – There is a Cell phone ‘signal meter’ always displayed. Nice touch!
9) Some people have complained about not having 4 “auto down” window buttons. I actually prefer only having the 2 for the front windows only. That way – you need to be more conscious of when you are closing the rear windows. (possibly on little fingers). Does that make sense!
10) There are 3 point seat belts AND air bags for all 7 seating positions. Granted I’ll only use this feature on occasion – still it is appreciated!
11) Headlights – very bright!
12) Driving (With Sport Suspension): Very responsive / Smooth!!! / Corners nicely. I dare say better than the RL. (I can’t believe I said that!)
13) I don’t mind that it doesn’t do 0-60 in 5 seconds. (Mind the double negative!) It is an SUV, it does the job very well.
14) For the aforementioned “Christmas trip” (~700 miles / within 10 MPH of speed limit – Thanks to the 2005 RL, Oops! ) – Mostly highway: 19 MPG (I won’t get into the MPG debate...)
15) My cell phone fits nicely in the “Not an Ashtray” tray. (The small things in life!)
I hope this helps those contemplating a purchase...
I plan to keep this car for a LONG TIME!
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Based on their various web sites, a price comparison using models that are as comparably equipped as you can get (given the prolific use of options packaging now), this is what the MSRP is in Canada:
GL450 - $85,950
BMW 3.0i - $81,195
Q7 V6 - $77,650
SRX V6 - $69,335
to be compared to an Acura MDX Elite which is $63,000 (I can't get the Acura website to open but this is roughly the MSRP which might or might not include delivery and prep).
In the case of the BMW, Audi and Cad, all vehicles are 6's, with 3rd row seating, nav, entertainment packages, Bluetooth, adaptive suspension, power reardoors, sunroofs, upgraded sound systems, upgraded headlights, etc. The Benz is, of course, a different class of vehicle, with an 8, 7 speed auto and genuine 3rd row seating.
If a potential buyer looks only at the features and technical items, the MDX is the best value. If a potential buyer imputes value into the 'brand', that is a highly personal issue that each and every individual must consider. And while buyers in this category might not have to be overly sensitive to price, the difference between a MDX and the next cheapest comparion (the SRX) is about $11,400 gross including sales tax (provincial and federal). Compared with the BMW, the difference increases to just under $35k.
And one final comment, the value of the 'brand' must include, I would have thought, some assessment of what it provides in terms of dealership support. And as we all know all too well, each and every dealer (regardless of brand) represents a different level of support. Where I live, the Acura dealer has been superb, the Benz dealer has a very good rep (based on anecdotal evidence), the GM dealer also has a very good rep, and the BMW dealer is brand new and does not give one a warm and comforting feeling when you first walk into the showroom.
Anyway, I hope this helps.
4) The RL has shades on the back 3 windows. (2 manual / 1 electric). Wouldn’t it just be easier to tint the windows ala MDX? (I’m sure there is some rule – somewhere forbidding this. Whatever...)
I believe you are correct about the "rule". When Subaru reclassified their Outback wagons (and sedans!?!?) as trucks, one of the reasons they cited was the ability to tint all the windows.
Unfortunately, some Acura sales staff are claiming the fully tinted windows make the auto-dimming rear view mirror unnecessary. (Hence, it is now a dealer add-on.) While that doesn't bother me, it stinks of cost-cutting.
FWIW, I agree with other posters here. The Q7 and GL450 are both full-size SUVs, while the MDX is technically a mid-size.
However, the Q7 is a little short on interior space. It's a smallish full-sizer. And the MDX, while short in length, is actually a very wide vehicle. Making it larger inside than the average mid-size. So, the two are comparable in terms of size. (Though price, utility, and other factors still separate them.)
The GL450 is another story, though. I haven't spent any time in one, but, based on the specs, I'd say it's a genuine full-size rig. I don't doubt that it's a terrific full-sizer. I'm just not certain that someone in a position similar to yours would require such a vehicle.
It's a clumsy solution if all you're doing is heading into town for a night, but it works well for long trips and situations when you have the interior packed to capacity.
My obstacle is a pair of greyhounds. Can't really pack boxes on top of them, so they own the cargo area. I got one of those hitch-carriers for additional gear, but I use it semi-frequently for many other things.
Not thrilled with the audio, though, have to fiddle with the settings a bit to get them to where my (old) ears "think" the music should be.
Otherwise, fantastic vehicle, actually got 24mpg on a (mostly) freeway drive/tankful last weekend.
No clatter on my '07 so far. I've heard that sound on a previous car and it was the brake caliper. Surprised you're not enjoying the sound system (sport comes w/ the upgraded system, right?) What kind of system did you have before? Mine is sport/ent so I think we have the same radio which in my opinion is better than the one in my '05 TL which everyone raves about. Are you sure you have the settings correct? Balance, fade, rear source OFF?
My MDX has been in the shop for 2 days now with no answers to my problem with the car pulling to the right. I have to constantly compensate for this which is driving me crazy!! I am driving a loaner which does not have this "tracking right" problem. Does anyone else out there notice if your new MDX pulling to the right?
To see the true colors of the ELS system however, you will have to look at DVD-A/DTS discs. I have a few of those. The problem is limited choices.
I haven't had a chance to really play with it, though, just too damn many toys in this car -- hog heaven for this gadget geek!
Re: your "tracking right" problem, has the dealership checked the tires? Mine tracks straight, no problems to note except for that minor noise.
Thanks!
I would have liked them to be rain sensitive as that would have automatically taken care of the speed - not sure why acura did it this way.
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Why they had to mess with a perfectly fine car, I don't know. Just wished I had questioned it at the point of sale, but honestly I didn't notice it until I got home...
Oh yeah, and I found an empty Hostess doughnut wrapper in the little passenger storage compartment. Nice.
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